What proof has Obama presented to indicate he is an american citizen?
The "birth certificate" often cited by the left is not actually a birth certificate at all. This is easily demonstrated by asking one simple question. Where is the signature of the doctor that delivered him? All birth certificates require the doctor's signature.
Obama may be a citizen, but he has not presented definitive proof yet.
In another few years, he wont even be in charge, much less "owner". He will be relegated to the sidelines, just like Carter and for many of the very same reasons.
@Leonid3s I hope he changes into dictatorship and give you guys what you deserve, and he is your owner, if theres a war all of u need to die for him, so SLAVE GET TO WORK
@OMGCREATE I have many friends in Canada and their healthcare system is in critical need of physicians that want to live in the lower population areas. Personally I prefer those areas. The beauty of nature is superior in my eyes to the high rise landscape of modern cities.
Cocky brats living in Sweden? Who knew? Oh wait, we all do! Giving Obama a Nobel peace prize based on what he MIGHT do was their crowning achievement.
But as long as you like it, that is all that counts, right?
lol ... Really! It's a Urban Legend .... OBAMA IS AMERICAN!!! I can't say more becouse fighting with you about this would just make me a weak. If you think Obama isn'y American! well I hope you have a great life married to your sister... REDNECK!
Obviously you are visually and intellectually challenged. Taking a quote from Barney Frank is like taking a quote from Barney Rubble, both have no merit! Its funny how you can be so descriminative towards conservatives and yet so blind to what the extreme liberals are doing to your childrens future, their rights, both god given and constitutional. Bet you aren't married, don't have kids, don't own a business, and are a cat lover! True signs of a democrat.
"Obama birth certificate question is legitimate, since he was obviously born in Kenya". I bet your dumb ass still believes. Man, just how long will you remain stupid?
Hey, faggot! He was born in HAWAII, not Kenya, to a woman from born and raised in Kansas. Obama is a natural-born citizen, and you, you dumb hick birther, need to go back to fucking your livestock.
Can you Prove this or do you have proof? Why does he side step this question. If I were Obama and I knew I was born in the Us I would go out of my way to proof it not hide it.
I've never heard anything about Phillip Berg or Alan Keyes believing in the 9/11 Inside Job theory. Neither do Hannity or O'Reilly, so that's irrelevant. I also think the 9-11 Truth movement is ridiculous, but the Obama birth certificate question is legitimate, since he was obviously born in Kenya. Several relatives said it before he ran for office, and he himself has skirted the issue several times..most conspicuously in his own books. "I grew up in Hawaii." No mention of being born there.
I still ask everyone that voted for Obama Just what has he ever done.His whole deal was on change,and Change he has done.I'm even poorer,I guess he gave it to the crack head down the street.I notice he driving a cady.
When the truth comes out, and this is resolved, these guys in the media will be layed off. Money talks, and the big 3 are going bankrupt. They better listen to America if they want to keep their jobs.
1. They should of put both the Clintons in jail a long time ago, He lied to the American public. 2. Bush and Cheney did go after WMD's, Suddam Hussein, who is a WMD. Those two plane's did not fly into the twin towers on their own. 3. Obama has not done one good thing since he has been in office and has spent enough money to sink a ship. He talks a good game but does not back it up. Doesn't matter what my age is. I am just stating facts.
olbermann rocks, love the last line, "oh yes we would!". i mean just look at the ignorant dolts on this page who are STILL blubbering about Obama's birth place.
I agree with you tomitstube. He put his birth certificate on the internet and they still say that it's a fake. These people believe in alex jones conspiracy theories.
At least know your terminology before you debate...Obama has a certificate of live birth scanned in by the Annenberg foundation that Obama chaired...not officially released to factcheck*org.
Okay conspiracy theorist. Once again, the burden of proof is on you, not Barack Obama. At least know your terminology before you debate. At least learn about lawsuits and the court system before you debate. I mean, if you so confident, why not sue him then? Don't just talk crap behind a computer, prove your case. Oh, that's right, you have no evidence.
Not really. Simply because you have no evidence and your logic abou the burden of proof is wrong. You said that he faked his birth certificate, where the state deparment and federal government says otherwise. So, you have to go to court and actually prove that his birth certificate is fake, in which you can't do because you have no evidence. I bet, that obama himself created this conspiracy to laugh at you all and the amazing thing is that it actually worked. Social conditioning.
That too is a lie because the people you clam that did it are alex jones supporters and they did not scan anything. Once again, you have no evidence to back up your claims. Once again, instead of talking about it, why don't you take him to court. What's wrong alex jones supporter, I mean, since you this passionate about it, take him to court. Oh, I see, you won't because you will lose. Typcial of the "truth movement".
Once again, why don't you take obama to court since you say that he is not a U.S. citizen. Once again, you have no evidence to support your claims. Also, verbal attacks do not help your argument. Until you provide evidence, your claims at best is just pure lies from alex jones.
i wouldn't waste much time on these nuts, facts are lost on them. i mean LOL "citizen grand juries" ?! he's muslim, he's not a US citizen, he's a socialist, he's the antichrist, etc, where does it end? these people are off their rocker. it's sad that there are that many idiots in this country!
I agree with you and I have defiently stop talking to them. They just don't have evidence and I even pointed out that Phil Berg always do cases that he lose to.
And they prove that Obama is a natural born citizen. Thanks. Also, making insults does not help your argument and you can't believe anything alex jones says. Also, 9/11 was not an 'inside job'.
You're an idiot. My parents were contractors living on Honshu Japan, when and where I was born. They did obtain a Certificate fo Live Birth from the state of Hawaii for me. I do not have a US birth certificate. I have been aware that I would never be eligible to become president of the US ever since I was a little kid. It's the law. But you dumbfuck dimocraps just HAD to vote for your rock star, so now we're ALL fucked.
LOL. The difference between you and Obama is that Obama is actually born in the United States and you were born in Japan. Thus making Obama a natural born citizen. Thanks. Also, I voted for Ron Paul
So, if Obama was born in the US, why would he need a CLB from Hawaii? A Hawaiian CLB is only a document showing a kid was born alive, and does not guarantee location of birth. I have one, and I wasn't born in Hawaii.
Sure it does. Once again, the burden of proof is on you, not Obama. Once again, you can't believe in everything alex jones says. He already published his birth certificate online for all of you to see and yet, you CT believe that the "government" is in on it. Just like 9/11, you have no evidence. Also, you have one because your was not born in the U.S. Obama is born in the U.S. and thus have a birth certificate.
In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in "registers", the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a "Certificate of Live Birth".
No, the burden of proof is on you, not Obama. He does not have to show his birth certificate to you. You have to provide evidence, that is your problem, you don't have any.
I have no idea who Alex Jones is. And I have all the proof I need. My Hawaii CLB is exactly like Obama's. I was born in Japan, therefore disqualifying me from ever running for president. Why is Obama's Hawaii CLB more qualifying than my Hawaii CLB? That's the problem with you dimocraps. You cannot reason logically. You're the type of moron that gets all weak kneed just because the other lemmings get all weak kneed. Like chickens in a barn yard. One sqwalks, you all sqwalk.
No, you don't have any type of proof against Obama. All you have is a conspiracy theory. Once again, I have proven to you that you're wrong and you just believe anything someone tells you, even if they have been proven wrong in court. Have you ever wonder why Berg would ever take this case especially that he is known for taking cases that he can't win? He made a carrer out of it, so did Alan Keys. This birth certificate thing has already been debunked.
I already knew that most democrats are dense, but you really take the cake. Read this real slow and let it sink in.
I have a Hawaii Certificate of live birth, just like Obama's certificate of live birth. I am not a natural born American citizen. Therefore, neither is Obama. Where do you get your news anyway? That New York Times tabloid?
And once again, I say that I have provided evidence to you that Obama is a natural born American citizen. Yes, states do give out Certificate of live birth and once again, the difference is that you're not born in the U.S. and Obama is born in the U.S. Read this slowly, Obama is a Natural Born Citizen.
If he is a natural born citizen, why doesn't he prove it as required by our constitution? As it is, our soldiers are having problems with taking orders from a possibly illegal commander in chief. Look up Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook. Our entire military establishment can't even prove that Obama is a natural born citizen. So we need proof that he is. All he has to do, is show his real birth certificate, then we can all go about our business. But he can't do that ONE little thing, can he?
He already prove it by posting his birth certificate online for everyone to see, and yet you still yell "conspiracy". Once again, you have to provide evidence that he is not a natural born citizen, that is how court works and he did that already. You're just putting up talking points from Alan Keys and Phil Berg. I have a question for you, why does Phil Berg represents cases that he always loses? He is very known for that and also, he lost the Elleni Martini case as well.
Once again, you do not have any proof against Obama. The state of Hawaii verified his orginal birth certificate and still that is not enough for you? As usual with conspiracy theorist, you resort to name calling when someone provides you with facts and evidence. Where were you when bush was president, did you ask for his original birth certificate? No, I did not think so.
Since when did photochopped web pages become "facts and evidence", admissable in a court of law? Are you really that dense? You mean those alien pictures are real to you? Elvis is really alive? What I want to know is, why is the constitution only important to you when it suits YOUR needs? Face it dude. You and over half of this country were just taken for a ride. DUPED. What you got was a full time bonafied Uncle Tomobama. He bailed out the rich guys yet again, and we ain't gettin' shit.
Why do you assume that I voted for Obama? I did not. I do know that the people that created this conspiracy are indeed ommiting information like Jones, Berg, Keys and the Citizen Watch Group. These people are well known for lying and they have a history of it. The fact that you believe this proves my point.
Conspiracy?? I just don't see our congress doing what every member there raised his hand and swore to the people that they would do, and that's defend the constitution. Every bit of it. Including Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. And I am simply amazed that over half of our country don't give a damn. Sorry, but photochopped internet images are not "proof" by any stretch of the imagination. And you believe Olbermann? The tabloid writer??? LOL.
Who said that I believed in Olbermann? You assume many things which is the reason why you make insults and verbal attacks. I don't like Obama's policies as well and I know that the economy is not getting better because of the State. I am very aware of that, but when you go into this conspiracy theory, it demoralizes the movement. The guy is a natural born citizen and the birth certificate is not fake. Like I said, if he showed you his Orginial Birth Certificate, would you believe him?
Yes, that's ALL it would take. His original birth certificate, signed by a doctor with hospital, date and time of birth.
That's it. But for some strange reason, Obama refuses to show it. I had to show mine to obtain my clearances. Seems to me, my boss should be able to do the same little thing. But he can't. Or won't, and hasn't yet. Lots of people watch Olbermann every day, and apparently believe the cretin. And you're here on this Olbermann report legitimizing him, so...
So, when are you going to take Obama to court? I mean, we having this exchange for weeks now and yet, you cannot answer the question. So, let me guess, the congress is in on it, correct? the senate must be in on it right? so is kissinger in on it? I mean, this is the problem with conspiracies, first it was the 9/11 truth movement saying 9/11 was an inside job, and now, it's an attack on Obama. It's the same exact people who is doing this. Really, question these people?
Plus, I don't understand why a man like Olbermann, who constantly toutes the constitution and freedom, doesn't mind trashing someone who is merely trying to do his job of defending said constitution. He's obviously a shill for the liberals. Pied piper of stupid people.
So is Bill O'Reilly, So is Sean Hannity, So is Michael Savage, So is Hal Turner, the're are shills as well. You must be a "conservative" since you accuse me of being a liberal. I mean, you have no evidence, and the burden of proof is on you, not Obama. The exact same people who are spreading this conspiracy are the same ones that spread the "9/11 was an inside job" theory. It's the exact same people. Berg, Keys, citizens watch group believe that 9/11 was an inside job. I see the connection now.
No, Oreilly, Hannity are reporters who never bought into the 911 conspiracy theory. They reported it, they said who said what and when, but they never tried to lay it down as fact. I don't listen to Savage, and I don't even know who Hal Turner is, or Keys or Berg. And the burden of proof is not on me. It is on Obama. He's the president who can't or won't prove his legitimacy. And I know that a lawsuit is futile, because Sotomayor will just shoot it down by the time it gets there.
Berg is the one who actually came up with the lawsuit about Obama birth certificate. He was the first one to do so and the problem with him is that he worked for Hillary Clinton and at the end, even he said that the birth certificate issue is a distraction and a dis-info, him and alex jones, who also spear headed this birth certificate thing said that it's dis-info as well. The purpose is to keep you focus on a distraction. Just like the "9/11 truth movement". This works all the time.
Distract me from what? The fact that he's apologizing to every third world dictatorship for our "arrogance", raping the defense industry, and wants me to sign up in a lottery for my next doctors appointment? Distract me from the fact that he wants us all to live in "peace and harmony" just like those same third world countries? Just the fact that he refuses to show any documentation proves he's hiding something. It is a very simple question. It could easily be cleared up. Just show it.
Would you believe him if he showed it? No, you will not and this is exactly what Chris Matthews pointed out when he interview the very policy maker that wanted to make sure that every president wish to show his birth certificate in 2012.
Yes, he did show it and FactCheck showed as well with the signatures of the doctor, the time of his birth, and the seal that you "bithers" talk about so much. Once again, this whole thing is a conspiracy created by Alex Jones.
As for being a "conspiracy theorist". Increased government control over the years, isn't a theory. It's fact, and you know it. Yet for some strange reason, you lefties want even more of it. Why is that?
Biden himself bragged that it was he who was responsible for funding the hiring of 20,000 new state troopers across the nation, and he wants even more. And you equate that with freedom? What a fricken SHEEP! Enjoy your cavity searches dude. Hope you do well in the doctor appointment lottery.
This is my point, all you do is make insults and verbal attacks. This is why conspiracy theorist are discredited. Most of them are. You have no evidence to support your claims.
Liberals just don't get it. It is not about race or policy. I don't care what he supports or who he is. There is some question over his eligibility, so he needs to show us proof. I am required to show more proof when I get hired at McDonalds. It is about follow the Constitution. How hard is it to simply show us and put the whole matter to rest?
He is only dodging because he has something to hide.
1. I do not care if the man is purple with red poka dots. This has nothing to do with his skin color.
2. Bill Clinton Lied big time and they never done nothing to him. So it will be interesting to see if The president can prove his birth certificate is real.
3. Barrack made a lot of promises, great speeches, He won the presidency by not that big of a margin if you throw out the stupid electorial deal. Bottom line he is spending to much money and not fixing the real issues that destroy USA
wow DOGLUV007, i wuz expecting some 16 year old to have wrote this bumbling nonsense.
rebuttal:
1) Clinton lied about a personal affair and was impeached. compared to...
2) Bush and Cheney LYING about WMD's, terrorist connections between hussain and bin ladin, nuclear capacity, etc. they lied about going to war and weren't impeached? HUH!?
3) Obama won by 10 million votes, there's a birth certificate, and he inherited the worst economy since the great depression.
i knew it would be a three ring circus by the right when Barack got elected. just a matter of time b-4 the preachers would find inane material to roust their soldiers of stupidity.
get some popcorn, enjoy the show, the religious right are going to ramp up the insane conspiricies. nothing funnier than people oblivious to their own idiocy.
Secretvideo is CLUELESS!!!-this country's current fucked up mess was caused by a succession of WHITE presidents!-The record speaks for itself-Greedy whites have plunged this country and the WORLD'S economy into an unholy and chaotic Mess!!! it took a white man to get us into this shit so it may take a black man to get us out! Read the news from around the globe and you'll see that the world agrees-Whitey caused this Mess!
i have never seen any president's birth cirtificate.. im suprised the CIA missed this omg the cia agreed to protect a guy long before the election.. hmm maybe the cia is just dumb and didn't do a background check.
Now is not the time to play race as a factor. Now is the time for our country to unite, not to divide. and we can't get there without work and effort. Sure the persident is black, but that doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Tha means you have to start representing the African American race the right way, not the wrong. Stop disrespecting our own, stop putting the lighter shades on a pedistol, and stop the violence against one another.
The only thing 'released' was a low-resolution scan, proported to be his birth certificate, with the number blanked out. An actual Obama birth certificate has NEVER been produced and the President and his legal council have gone to absurdly extraordinary lengths to prevent the release of the 'vault copy' (including over $800k in legal bills and threats of financial sanctions against the plaintiffs lawyers). He could simply release the vault copy and tell the 'nutters' to fuck off, but he WON'T.
the photos are also dr'd . certain angles giving a supposed proof while leaving out other critical writings to be seen. i think it's many different docs that are real along with the fake one. kinda like the missing link many believe in 'lucy'. he knows many are gullible and pushing it to the obama extreme.
When Obama was running for president and gas was 4.00 a gallon. Offshore drilling was mentioned and he said you can not drill your way out of a problem. Isn't he doing the same thing with the stimulus bill, by spending your way out of a problem? Reckless overspending got us in this mess to begin with! It defies any known logic .
probably has a hidden bunker somewhere for when his chaotic agenda of division ensues. he claims to 'unite' but in reality he has a PLAN to separate us even further.
you're absolutely right about spending what we do not have. it's the MOST INSANE CONTRADICTION.
Well I am a white guy who married a woman of another dark-skinned race. Maybe you should ask her if I'm a racist. I'm not even an American, and I can understand that anyone, regardless of race, needs to prove they are constitutionally qualified for the office of president. You have been brainwashed by the 200 million dollar Obama mass mind-control campaign, but do you really want a Kenyan-born Indonesian running your country? ( Not that he does, He's just a Kissinger trained globalist puppet.
You're out of your mind. Do you realize you are the racist? I am saying anyone, applying for any job has to produce the documents to prove they are qualified. Only a racist, whose brain is completely obsessed with skin color could twist a statement like that to have anything to do with racism. Obama was picked up out of college by Kissinger, the ultimate white supremacist, and groomed for this. One of his first acts has been to introduce 'family planning' funding to abort black babies.
What evidence do you have for that statement. Where you Obama's bitch? Did you work for Kissinger?
Noooo, you got your source from the internet and watching youtube videos. Well "My friend" that's not credible. You're talking about the same tool, Internet, that uses two girls eating out of one cup of shit as your source of entertanment as the tool for your research?
Any research done on the internet are not credible because to this day, bullshit is found easier on the net then ever.
NO ! Obama scares the crap out of me. I was mocking some idiot who was accusing everyone who speaks against Obama as being racist. He is the elites lap dog who is going to sell the US public the crushing of the US constitution and personal liberty, destruction of the currency, elimination of American sovereignty, Introduction of the American Union, Transfer to martial law and the systematic mass extermination in the FEMA camps. Obama is a Kenyan born Indonesian.
We have to band together brother because we cant have this KFC coon Watermelon eating Jungle Bunny African Spear Chucker be our president. I'm not a racist and I didn't call him the n-word but he is a socialist. Look up the Arian Nation site brother, he's a socialist.
Why is that scary? Oh are you an Obamabot? How can you sell out your own race bro? We are decreasing in numbers in America and soon the USA will be run by monkies and beaners. I'm not a racist but we must protect America.
If you're on the arian site then you ARE a racist! And this country has had enough Trailer Park living-Fucking their Relatives-
Meth Lab making Crackers for President!-Thats whats got us into this Fucked up mess we're in now-A bunch of toothless,hillbilly Honkies who did'nt know what the fuck they were doing!!!
They probably will be locked up for dissenting and standing up for the constitution if Obama has anything to do with it. But it wont mean they're wrong. Thats how all democracies collapse into fascism, when the zombies start chanting for the destruction of all who oppose their savior.
all you people that, insist obama was born in kenya are just STUID. just say it, you hate the fact that a black man is president.the is changing. so you roll with it or get rolled over.
its possible to not like someone because of their politics...but if you say you dont like barack obama everyone assumes youre racist. The fact that you even bring up race like that prooves how ignorant you really are. I don't like Barack Obama because of his politics! Until he prooves me wrong I won't like him! and im not a racist! I could not care less what colour his skin is, I just can almost guarantee he will not do a good job and im not gonna get into why because i have no room left to type
The KKK don't admit they do not like Obama for his race but for his political agenda and his "Socialist" ways. I mean the KKK, the most racist group in America saying they are not racist? Come on who the hell are you fooling?
I am tired of stupid and ignorant people thinking that being Muslim is bad. THIS IS A RELIGION BASED ON ISLAM. Not all Muslims are TERRORISTS OK? Read more and educate yourself.
Another thing CaliforniaSunshine_you said " both of his fathers were Muslims" He saw his real father ONCE and Lolo Soetoro didn't have to much influence on him anyway he was just a boy,so if he was listed in school as "Muslim" maybe his mom lied to put him into school in Indonesia. Gosh! Again Read before posting.
I look at it this way. You say being Muslim isn't bad, but Muslim countries do things like public executions, beheadings, hangings, stonings, and etc. The places that do this have Muslim leaders that believe their holy book says it's right so excuse me if I think Muslims are bad. I don't see the majority of them complaining about what their so called government does to people who make mistakes.
You are talking about Radical Muslims not Muslims. There are thousands of Muslims in the the United States and other parts of the World,this doesn't mean they are all terrorists. Muslim is a religion, a peaceful religion. Read from reliable sources.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to Chicagos dirt. That governor won't go down without revealing all he knows about Obama...it just starting. The tides of change...momentum.
I want to see what communist clubs your messiah belonged to in college. I wanted to see that he wasn't born in Kenya like his grandmother and the Prime Minister of Kenya are claiming. Yes that is right....they have his birth place Mombossa a new tourist spot. Hawaii accepts births out of the country for two years after a birth. She was delayed in Kenya after boarding a flight for a Hawaii to far into her pregnancy. Obama's grandmother witnessed the birth.
re: PM and Obama's Grandmother, I want to suggest study in linguistics, and learning about translations. I'm an interpreter, so I am not uttering tripe. Yes, Barack SENIOR was born in Kenya.
Intersting: Barack Jr.'s mom was not allowed to board a plane b/c she was too far along in pregnancy, yet Palin got on a plane,(11 hour flight), AFTER her water broke.
As for clubs, it is known that Harvard dudes (Bush included) are in Skull and Bones.
I agree Jesus is Messiah and is Jewish and I'm glad you said that :). I am referring to the God like image the media and Farrakhan have given to Obama. Palin is younger then Obama...so it is irrelevent what they did in the 1960's in another country. The Prime Mininster of Kenya is endorsing Mombossa Hospital in Kenya the birth of America's president. He's interviewed on youtube, check it out. The people are celebrating, as they know it also.
"Palin is younger then Obama...so it is irrelevent what they did in the 1960's in another country."
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I don't understand that part. Palin just had the baby 8 months ago. She is claiming to have taken a plane from Dallas to Alaska AFTER her water broke.
Ok...we are talking about apples and oranges. Anne Dunham gets on a airplane in Africa nearly 50 years ago and is denied flight, Sarah Palin gets on an airplane in Alaska and flies. Don't you think airlines change over the years and in other countries?
Airlines change, but a woman's water breaking does not change. After the water breaks, you have just minutes to go. NO airline is going to let you on when you are about to deliver. If they knew that in Africa 47 years ago surely the very well developed USA knew it 8 months ago. No, it is not apples and oranges, it the same logic applied in a non-discriminmatory manner.
I didn't say she was in labor or that the water had broke. Airlines don't recommend flight after the 7th month. I imagine someone that looked too far along, would mean that the baby had dropped into position for delivery. The stomach is visibly lower.
My wife and I have had four children. None of the deliveries have lasted longer than 11 hours and each was progressively shorter than the one before. In each case, she was warned not to fly during the last 6 weeks of her pregnancy. But Palin claims to have flown from Dallas to Seattle after her water broke, took a 2nd flight to Alaska, and then was driven for nearly an hour so she could have her child at home. That is more ridiculous than Obama being born in Kenya.
Then why not show the birth certificate? Why spend millions defending the right not to have your records shown? Where is the transperancy. Investigate it...good questions...keep looking.
Foreign leaders know he was born in Kenya, our judges know it. Our media won't oppose him; oh yeah, maybe they will oppose something light, like a pack of cigerettes...lol.
He couldn't be born in Kenya because there is no evidence that Obama's mother ever traveled to Kenya. No passport containing her name on it ever passed through Kenyan custom. This Blagojevich case tells you that the federal government is doing their job. Don't you think that Obama hasn't been investigated long time ago? No proof that he was born in Kenya.
Honestly, I think Blagojevich is a red-flag that they are investigating Obama; when Obama goes down, he'll go down as fast as he rose to meissah status. Obama's grandmother has a taped conversation online from Berg's case. She says her grandson was born in Mombossa hospital in Kenya. She was at the delivery when Ann Dunham had her grandson. Govermment
I watched all about Blagojevich and it was clearly announced that Obama was NOT involved? Don't you think the federals will now by now? The reporter said later that he thinks that Obamas' gramma didn't understand the questio, I read that on a newspaper. Obama's grandmother is not proof that he was born in Kenya,remember she is an old lady, anyway a judge declined that accusation. As I told you there is no record of Ann Dunhan traveling to Kenya, that its been verified.
If the judges know he was born in Kenya, then why Obama is still the President elect? Don't you think he will be removed if this were true? Do you know what are you saying?
There is a huge conspiracy against him here in You tube, is what it is. Racism? Republicans? Xenophobic people? Well you must know but like it or not He is the next President of the United States.
I am watching the news too and all the reporters call him President elect Barack Obama since he was elected on Nov.4. He is going to be definitely, and the Inauguration on the 20th.
Thought you might like to know, you can use Obama's middle name now, Hussein. Washington Post said Obama wants to use his full name when he swears in, to ease tensions with the Muslims. Nothing like having a disloyal alligience!! What do those men that fought think about that? What do the families of people that lost young men think? Change, when you think of me, think Hussein, because you never know who I can be. Wonder if he'll be sworn in on the Quran?
You know that he is a Christian. Hussein is just a name. Obama said yesterday " Who gave me this name didn't know I was going to run for President". I have a friend named Fidel, he is Cuban and he doesn't have anything to do with Fidel Castro or Communism. Anything you try will not work. I hope Obama can sue you all for slander.
Do you know he said, "I've never been Muslim, never been to a mosque and have never studied the Quran." Did you believe that too?? LOL He went to school in Indonesia (it is the MOST Islamic country in the world). It went to two schools where he is listed as Muslim on the school documentary. His teachers remember his Muslim training. You can find him in Islamic dress throughout his life. Both of his fathers were Muslim. Was Wright's church Christianity? Muslims did not have to convert to join.
Listen, being Muslim is not a CRIME is just a religion!! He went to Indonesia when he was a boy 6-10yrs the he went back to Hawaii, Hellooo? and was raised by his WHITE grandparents. Read and educate yourself first.
Muslim is not an "inherited trait" that you "pass" to your children ok? Any person can decide the religion they prefer when they grow older and Barack Obama chose being Christian.
are you talking about the Grandmother that Obama didn't even go back to Hawaii for her funeral until he could work it into his vacation... what a nice guy this Obama. he really loves the people in his life.
If you think he cares about you or any of the people that voted for him you are a fool.
UPDATE: Dec.9-Watch" Supreme Court declines case" It is a complete report on MSNBC about Obama's ridiculous rumors and conspiracy about his citizenship. They said on National tv that OBAMA IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, YEAH!
He was sworn in on a Bible. He is President. He uses his middle name to try and ease tensions between us and Muslims. "Hussein" is actually an Arabic word that means "handsome" or "beautiful" It is as common in the Arabic world as Matthew or Mark are in the English World.
Why then? Explain that. The Democratic Primary came down to Obama vs. Clinton. Why would the Democrats risk it all on Obama if there was this sword hanging over his head? Especially since last March, polls showed that Clinton had a better chance of beating McCain. Why would they risk it? This was their chance to take back the White House and they would risk it on someone who could be thrown out of office if something so simple as birthplace could do it? Now if you are going to say there is...
(cont) mass conspiracy behind him, again: why would they pick him? Hilary's husband was already the Democratic President. Did they think that she couldn't do the same as he did? All of this nonsense has no basis in reality.
She had the popular vote..she should have won. She had fight up till the end. I wish she would have won. Think about who financed Obama...it was the Saudi royals.. just like they did his cousin Odinga. His birth certificate issue was brought up by Hillary first. The government is corrupt..they won't hear it. It is taking grand juries raised from the people in each state to investigate it.
I know it's hard to understand, but seriously, if you were going to be the President, and everyone was wanting to see your long form BC, wouldn't you just show it to them? What's the big deal?
If you have nothing to hide, then why not disclose? His long form BC has never been shown to anyone. His "original".. It states where he was born, to whom, and what hospital. And he has sealed those records for a reason.
It's pretty darn simple. Stop the rumors show the people u have nothing to hide
are you joking???, really, this is absolute nonsense. Obama won, we elected him and he will be our next President. Deal with it. I bet you are a republican arent you?, oh that would be very surprising.
... but I do love my country and don't want to see the elecorate just trash the Constitution and not care if anything in our LEGAL system is enforced.
And again, how much creditablity am I suppose to recognize of these people who continue to annoy the courts when they only complain about the non-White candidate?
How perfect can it be? A White candidate is born outside of the US, no one files any suits against him. A non-White is born in the US, 3 suits get filed against him.
Social scientists couldn't have designed a more perfect test of xenophobia.
You don't have to trust those who are in the courts, they aren't going to be running the Country, are they? But you "DO" have to trust that your President IS who he claims he is.
There are blacks, and whites standing on this issue. Believe me, if Obama had nothing to hide, he'd show us that fact.
Are you seriously telling me that you could care less about our constitutional rights being challenged?
According to this latest arguement against him, it isn't that Obama is hiding anything, it is that he is pointedly ineligable because his father isn't American. Or don't you even know the arguement this dumbass is making?
And since when does being America with brown skin mean you can't be xenophobic?
Once again Proserpinal FC, I will have to correct you...
A suit was filed against McCain too on the same issue. You know what he did? He produced every record that needed to be produced, and had congress look it over.
I didn't vote for either McCain or Obama, but I would of voted for Obama if he had been honest about this issue.
He needs to just come clean, one way or the other. Bring back the trust. MY gosh, he hasn't even gotten into office yet, and he has a big blimish.
No, I mean that the same assholes doing this to Obama won't do it to McCain. They see the Black guy and baulk, but are okay with the White guy. THEY are showing a clear xenophobic bias.
And this isn't about him coming clean. He already showed his birth certificate.
What part aren't you understanding? They aren't saying he wasn't born in Hawaii. They are saying that he can't be President because his father isn't American.
The facts are all on the table. Obama isn't hiding anything!
The lawsuit that was thrown out on Monday wasn't saying any of the bullshit claims the others were making:
Yes, we believe he was born in Hawaii.
Yes, he was born after Hawaii became a state.
Yes, his mother is American.
But, because his father isn't and because his father's British citizenship ~CAN~ be passed to his children, Obama can't be considered simply American because he could have also been British.
That was the claim that the Supreme Court rejected on Dec.8. It is not new. This has been a rumor since he was running. Just that: internet rumors, there is nothing negative on the media about Obama. The transition to power and that 3 out of 4 people aprove his ideas. 42 days for the Inauguration.
There's compelling evidence that he was not born here. He should have to proof the is a natural born US citizens to be president.
thotkrime 1 year ago
@thotkrime were is this evidence oh please tell me and don't even try to write some stupid conspiracy website.
corneater23 1 month ago
What proof has Obama presented to indicate he is an american citizen?
The "birth certificate" often cited by the left is not actually a birth certificate at all. This is easily demonstrated by asking one simple question. Where is the signature of the doctor that delivered him? All birth certificates require the doctor's signature.
Obama may be a citizen, but he has not presented definitive proof yet.
Have to wonder, why?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Obama is your owner, deal with it or shut it
OMGCREATE 1 year ago
@OMGCREATE
Slavery is illegal in the US.
Try again.
In another few years, he wont even be in charge, much less "owner". He will be relegated to the sidelines, just like Carter and for many of the very same reasons.
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s I hope he changes into dictatorship and give you guys what you deserve, and he is your owner, if theres a war all of u need to die for him, so SLAVE GET TO WORK
OMGCREATE 1 year ago
@OMGCREATE Sorry, voted against him. Will vote against him again.
Dont think he is going to be a two term president. But if he is, I could always come live with you... Sweden is in desperate need of good physicians.
Nah, on second thought, the Swiss are too radical and your cheese sucks.
Guess it is Canada for me then. After all, I LOVE Beaver!
Leonid3s 1 year ago
@Leonid3s Canada hate Americans remember? Gonna have to find a new place, p.s DONT COME SWEDEN, we have enough cocky brats living here.
OMGCREATE 1 year ago
@OMGCREATE I have many friends in Canada and their healthcare system is in critical need of physicians that want to live in the lower population areas. Personally I prefer those areas. The beauty of nature is superior in my eyes to the high rise landscape of modern cities.
Cocky brats living in Sweden? Who knew? Oh wait, we all do! Giving Obama a Nobel peace prize based on what he MIGHT do was their crowning achievement.
But as long as you like it, that is all that counts, right?
Leonid3s 1 year ago
lol ... Really! It's a Urban Legend .... OBAMA IS AMERICAN!!! I can't say more becouse fighting with you about this would just make me a weak. If you think Obama isn'y American! well I hope you have a great life married to your sister... REDNECK!
Imagine1world5 1 year ago
It doesn't matter where he was born. Bimbobama sucks...
andi456245 1 year ago
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nbc can suck a big one merry christmas sand nigger
crazyroger1775 2 years ago
Obviously you are visually and intellectually challenged. Taking a quote from Barney Frank is like taking a quote from Barney Rubble, both have no merit! Its funny how you can be so descriminative towards conservatives and yet so blind to what the extreme liberals are doing to your childrens future, their rights, both god given and constitutional. Bet you aren't married, don't have kids, don't own a business, and are a cat lover! True signs of a democrat.
Scooter0Busby 2 years ago
"Obama birth certificate question is legitimate, since he was obviously born in Kenya". I bet your dumb ass still believes. Man, just how long will you remain stupid?
hiiamrick 2 years ago
Hey, faggot! He was born in HAWAII, not Kenya, to a woman from born and raised in Kansas. Obama is a natural-born citizen, and you, you dumb hick birther, need to go back to fucking your livestock.
TPRInteractive 2 years ago 2
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8thEastTexasBlues 2 years ago
@8thEastTexasBlues your a moron ... Is your sister also your mom? Just a question.
Imagine1world5 1 year ago
Sounds like your into beastiality...speaking of livestock......your a MAGGOT
kr94vet 2 years ago
Learn to read dingleberry. Stop proving just how stupid you are.
hiiamrick 2 years ago
Can you Prove this or do you have proof? Why does he side step this question. If I were Obama and I knew I was born in the Us I would go out of my way to proof it not hide it.
nikkowinter 2 years ago
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IronChefWannabe 1 year ago
Really ?
cause if I was Obama I'd say "fuck you asshole
the CIA, FBI and NSA all ran security checks on me before I became president and none of them determined I was born outside the US"
IronChefWannabe 1 year ago
@IronChefWannabe You haven't got a clue how the world works, have you.
1enzeder 1 year ago
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TPRInteractive 2 years ago
I've never heard anything about Phillip Berg or Alan Keyes believing in the 9/11 Inside Job theory. Neither do Hannity or O'Reilly, so that's irrelevant. I also think the 9-11 Truth movement is ridiculous, but the Obama birth certificate question is legitimate, since he was obviously born in Kenya. Several relatives said it before he ran for office, and he himself has skirted the issue several times..most conspicuously in his own books. "I grew up in Hawaii." No mention of being born there.
vausteen 2 years ago
It' not legitmte. Obama is a natural born citize. Even if he wnt to your house and showed you his long form you would still say its a fraud.
darkvampire5555 2 years ago 2
I still ask everyone that voted for Obama Just what has he ever done.His whole deal was on change,and Change he has done.I'm even poorer,I guess he gave it to the crack head down the street.I notice he driving a cady.
excaliburgc 2 years ago
When the truth comes out, and this is resolved, these guys in the media will be layed off. Money talks, and the big 3 are going bankrupt. They better listen to America if they want to keep their jobs.
was4dem 2 years ago
Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Ignorance is having a Muslim Messiah take over America with communism.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
1. They should of put both the Clintons in jail a long time ago, He lied to the American public. 2. Bush and Cheney did go after WMD's, Suddam Hussein, who is a WMD. Those two plane's did not fly into the twin towers on their own. 3. Obama has not done one good thing since he has been in office and has spent enough money to sink a ship. He talks a good game but does not back it up. Doesn't matter what my age is. I am just stating facts.
DOGLUV007 2 years ago
olbermann rocks, love the last line, "oh yes we would!". i mean just look at the ignorant dolts on this page who are STILL blubbering about Obama's birth place.
tomitstube 2 years ago
I agree with you tomitstube. He put his birth certificate on the internet and they still say that it's a fake. These people believe in alex jones conspiracy theories.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
At least know your terminology before you debate...Obama has a certificate of live birth scanned in by the Annenberg foundation that Obama chaired...not officially released to factcheck*org.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
Okay conspiracy theorist. Once again, the burden of proof is on you, not Barack Obama. At least know your terminology before you debate. At least learn about lawsuits and the court system before you debate. I mean, if you so confident, why not sue him then? Don't just talk crap behind a computer, prove your case. Oh, that's right, you have no evidence.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Grand juries investigations require the burden of proof on you. As the economy fails..guess what? The birth certificate issue will come to light.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
Not really. Simply because you have no evidence and your logic abou the burden of proof is wrong. You said that he faked his birth certificate, where the state deparment and federal government says otherwise. So, you have to go to court and actually prove that his birth certificate is fake, in which you can't do because you have no evidence. I bet, that obama himself created this conspiracy to laugh at you all and the amazing thing is that it actually worked. Social conditioning.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Lots of forensic work done on the scanned in certificate of live birth...google it.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
That too is a lie because the people you clam that did it are alex jones supporters and they did not scan anything. Once again, you have no evidence to back up your claims. Once again, instead of talking about it, why don't you take him to court. What's wrong alex jones supporter, I mean, since you this passionate about it, take him to court. Oh, I see, you won't because you will lose. Typcial of the "truth movement".
RobertChavis 2 years ago
I'm sorry you aren't smart enough to google something besides Alex Jones! Honestly, do some research....or just wear a sign...I'm an ObamaRetard.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
Once again, why don't you take obama to court since you say that he is not a U.S. citizen. Once again, you have no evidence to support your claims. Also, verbal attacks do not help your argument. Until you provide evidence, your claims at best is just pure lies from alex jones.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
i wouldn't waste much time on these nuts, facts are lost on them. i mean LOL "citizen grand juries" ?! he's muslim, he's not a US citizen, he's a socialist, he's the antichrist, etc, where does it end? these people are off their rocker. it's sad that there are that many idiots in this country!
tomitstube 2 years ago
I agree with you and I have defiently stop talking to them. They just don't have evidence and I even pointed out that Phil Berg always do cases that he lose to.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
He went to a Madrossa in Indonesia...but I guess he became a Christian? YEAH RIGHT!
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
And they prove that Obama is a natural born citizen. Thanks. Also, making insults does not help your argument and you can't believe anything alex jones says. Also, 9/11 was not an 'inside job'.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
You're an idiot. My parents were contractors living on Honshu Japan, when and where I was born. They did obtain a Certificate fo Live Birth from the state of Hawaii for me. I do not have a US birth certificate. I have been aware that I would never be eligible to become president of the US ever since I was a little kid. It's the law. But you dumbfuck dimocraps just HAD to vote for your rock star, so now we're ALL fucked.
wavernr 2 years ago
LOL. The difference between you and Obama is that Obama is actually born in the United States and you were born in Japan. Thus making Obama a natural born citizen. Thanks. Also, I voted for Ron Paul
RobertChavis 2 years ago
So, if Obama was born in the US, why would he need a CLB from Hawaii? A Hawaiian CLB is only a document showing a kid was born alive, and does not guarantee location of birth. I have one, and I wasn't born in Hawaii.
wavernr 2 years ago
Sure it does. Once again, the burden of proof is on you, not Obama. Once again, you can't believe in everything alex jones says. He already published his birth certificate online for all of you to see and yet, you CT believe that the "government" is in on it. Just like 9/11, you have no evidence. Also, you have one because your was not born in the U.S. Obama is born in the U.S. and thus have a birth certificate.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in "registers", the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a "Certificate of Live Birth".
RobertChavis 2 years ago
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RobertChavis 2 years ago
No, the burden of proof is on you, not Obama. He does not have to show his birth certificate to you. You have to provide evidence, that is your problem, you don't have any.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
I have no idea who Alex Jones is. And I have all the proof I need. My Hawaii CLB is exactly like Obama's. I was born in Japan, therefore disqualifying me from ever running for president. Why is Obama's Hawaii CLB more qualifying than my Hawaii CLB? That's the problem with you dimocraps. You cannot reason logically. You're the type of moron that gets all weak kneed just because the other lemmings get all weak kneed. Like chickens in a barn yard. One sqwalks, you all sqwalk.
wavernr 2 years ago
No, you don't have any type of proof against Obama. All you have is a conspiracy theory. Once again, I have proven to you that you're wrong and you just believe anything someone tells you, even if they have been proven wrong in court. Have you ever wonder why Berg would ever take this case especially that he is known for taking cases that he can't win? He made a carrer out of it, so did Alan Keys. This birth certificate thing has already been debunked.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
I already knew that most democrats are dense, but you really take the cake. Read this real slow and let it sink in.
I have a Hawaii Certificate of live birth, just like Obama's certificate of live birth. I am not a natural born American citizen. Therefore, neither is Obama. Where do you get your news anyway? That New York Times tabloid?
wavernr 2 years ago
And once again, I say that I have provided evidence to you that Obama is a natural born American citizen. Yes, states do give out Certificate of live birth and once again, the difference is that you're not born in the U.S. and Obama is born in the U.S. Read this slowly, Obama is a Natural Born Citizen.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
If he is a natural born citizen, why doesn't he prove it as required by our constitution? As it is, our soldiers are having problems with taking orders from a possibly illegal commander in chief. Look up Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook. Our entire military establishment can't even prove that Obama is a natural born citizen. So we need proof that he is. All he has to do, is show his real birth certificate, then we can all go about our business. But he can't do that ONE little thing, can he?
wavernr 2 years ago
He already prove it by posting his birth certificate online for everyone to see, and yet you still yell "conspiracy". Once again, you have to provide evidence that he is not a natural born citizen, that is how court works and he did that already. You're just putting up talking points from Alan Keys and Phil Berg. I have a question for you, why does Phil Berg represents cases that he always loses? He is very known for that and also, he lost the Elleni Martini case as well.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Once again, you do not have any proof against Obama. The state of Hawaii verified his orginal birth certificate and still that is not enough for you? As usual with conspiracy theorist, you resort to name calling when someone provides you with facts and evidence. Where were you when bush was president, did you ask for his original birth certificate? No, I did not think so.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Since when did photochopped web pages become "facts and evidence", admissable in a court of law? Are you really that dense? You mean those alien pictures are real to you? Elvis is really alive? What I want to know is, why is the constitution only important to you when it suits YOUR needs? Face it dude. You and over half of this country were just taken for a ride. DUPED. What you got was a full time bonafied Uncle Tomobama. He bailed out the rich guys yet again, and we ain't gettin' shit.
wavernr 2 years ago
Why do you assume that I voted for Obama? I did not. I do know that the people that created this conspiracy are indeed ommiting information like Jones, Berg, Keys and the Citizen Watch Group. These people are well known for lying and they have a history of it. The fact that you believe this proves my point.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Conspiracy?? I just don't see our congress doing what every member there raised his hand and swore to the people that they would do, and that's defend the constitution. Every bit of it. Including Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. And I am simply amazed that over half of our country don't give a damn. Sorry, but photochopped internet images are not "proof" by any stretch of the imagination. And you believe Olbermann? The tabloid writer??? LOL.
wavernr 2 years ago
Who said that I believed in Olbermann? You assume many things which is the reason why you make insults and verbal attacks. I don't like Obama's policies as well and I know that the economy is not getting better because of the State. I am very aware of that, but when you go into this conspiracy theory, it demoralizes the movement. The guy is a natural born citizen and the birth certificate is not fake. Like I said, if he showed you his Orginial Birth Certificate, would you believe him?
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Yes, that's ALL it would take. His original birth certificate, signed by a doctor with hospital, date and time of birth.
That's it. But for some strange reason, Obama refuses to show it. I had to show mine to obtain my clearances. Seems to me, my boss should be able to do the same little thing. But he can't. Or won't, and hasn't yet. Lots of people watch Olbermann every day, and apparently believe the cretin. And you're here on this Olbermann report legitimizing him, so...
wavernr 2 years ago
So, when are you going to take Obama to court? I mean, we having this exchange for weeks now and yet, you cannot answer the question. So, let me guess, the congress is in on it, correct? the senate must be in on it right? so is kissinger in on it? I mean, this is the problem with conspiracies, first it was the 9/11 truth movement saying 9/11 was an inside job, and now, it's an attack on Obama. It's the same exact people who is doing this. Really, question these people?
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Plus, I don't understand why a man like Olbermann, who constantly toutes the constitution and freedom, doesn't mind trashing someone who is merely trying to do his job of defending said constitution. He's obviously a shill for the liberals. Pied piper of stupid people.
wavernr 2 years ago
So is Bill O'Reilly, So is Sean Hannity, So is Michael Savage, So is Hal Turner, the're are shills as well. You must be a "conservative" since you accuse me of being a liberal. I mean, you have no evidence, and the burden of proof is on you, not Obama. The exact same people who are spreading this conspiracy are the same ones that spread the "9/11 was an inside job" theory. It's the exact same people. Berg, Keys, citizens watch group believe that 9/11 was an inside job. I see the connection now.
RobertChavis 2 years ago 2
No, Oreilly, Hannity are reporters who never bought into the 911 conspiracy theory. They reported it, they said who said what and when, but they never tried to lay it down as fact. I don't listen to Savage, and I don't even know who Hal Turner is, or Keys or Berg. And the burden of proof is not on me. It is on Obama. He's the president who can't or won't prove his legitimacy. And I know that a lawsuit is futile, because Sotomayor will just shoot it down by the time it gets there.
wavernr 2 years ago
Berg is the one who actually came up with the lawsuit about Obama birth certificate. He was the first one to do so and the problem with him is that he worked for Hillary Clinton and at the end, even he said that the birth certificate issue is a distraction and a dis-info, him and alex jones, who also spear headed this birth certificate thing said that it's dis-info as well. The purpose is to keep you focus on a distraction. Just like the "9/11 truth movement". This works all the time.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Distract me from what? The fact that he's apologizing to every third world dictatorship for our "arrogance", raping the defense industry, and wants me to sign up in a lottery for my next doctors appointment? Distract me from the fact that he wants us all to live in "peace and harmony" just like those same third world countries? Just the fact that he refuses to show any documentation proves he's hiding something. It is a very simple question. It could easily be cleared up. Just show it.
wavernr 2 years ago
Would you believe him if he showed it? No, you will not and this is exactly what Chris Matthews pointed out when he interview the very policy maker that wanted to make sure that every president wish to show his birth certificate in 2012.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
Yes, he did show it and FactCheck showed as well with the signatures of the doctor, the time of his birth, and the seal that you "bithers" talk about so much. Once again, this whole thing is a conspiracy created by Alex Jones.
RobertChavis 2 years ago 2
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RobertChavis 2 years ago
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wavernr 2 years ago
Lies, lies and more lies. Grow up dude and stop being stupid. Love It, Or Leave It.
hiiamrick 2 years ago
As for being a "conspiracy theorist". Increased government control over the years, isn't a theory. It's fact, and you know it. Yet for some strange reason, you lefties want even more of it. Why is that?
Biden himself bragged that it was he who was responsible for funding the hiring of 20,000 new state troopers across the nation, and he wants even more. And you equate that with freedom? What a fricken SHEEP! Enjoy your cavity searches dude. Hope you do well in the doctor appointment lottery.
wavernr 2 years ago
This is my point, all you do is make insults and verbal attacks. This is why conspiracy theorist are discredited. Most of them are. You have no evidence to support your claims.
RobertChavis 2 years ago
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sjande23 2 years ago
Liberals just don't get it. It is not about race or policy. I don't care what he supports or who he is. There is some question over his eligibility, so he needs to show us proof. I am required to show more proof when I get hired at McDonalds. It is about follow the Constitution. How hard is it to simply show us and put the whole matter to rest?
He is only dodging because he has something to hide.
templersstorms 2 years ago
1. I do not care if the man is purple with red poka dots. This has nothing to do with his skin color.
2. Bill Clinton Lied big time and they never done nothing to him. So it will be interesting to see if The president can prove his birth certificate is real.
3. Barrack made a lot of promises, great speeches, He won the presidency by not that big of a margin if you throw out the stupid electorial deal. Bottom line he is spending to much money and not fixing the real issues that destroy USA
DOGLUV007 2 years ago
wow DOGLUV007, i wuz expecting some 16 year old to have wrote this bumbling nonsense.
rebuttal:
1) Clinton lied about a personal affair and was impeached. compared to...
2) Bush and Cheney LYING about WMD's, terrorist connections between hussain and bin ladin, nuclear capacity, etc. they lied about going to war and weren't impeached? HUH!?
3) Obama won by 10 million votes, there's a birth certificate, and he inherited the worst economy since the great depression.
DOH!
tomitstube 2 years ago
Amazing these elistist television shows pride themselves on being fair, when they know nothing of it.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
i knew it would be a three ring circus by the right when Barack got elected. just a matter of time b-4 the preachers would find inane material to roust their soldiers of stupidity.
get some popcorn, enjoy the show, the religious right are going to ramp up the insane conspiricies. nothing funnier than people oblivious to their own idiocy.
tomitstube 2 years ago
Sad you voted for Obama simply because he was black.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
Secretvideo is CLUELESS!!!-this country's current fucked up mess was caused by a succession of WHITE presidents!-The record speaks for itself-Greedy whites have plunged this country and the WORLD'S economy into an unholy and chaotic Mess!!! it took a white man to get us into this shit so it may take a black man to get us out! Read the news from around the globe and you'll see that the world agrees-Whitey caused this Mess!
mypuss77 2 years ago
i have never seen any president's birth cirtificate.. im suprised the CIA missed this omg the cia agreed to protect a guy long before the election.. hmm maybe the cia is just dumb and didn't do a background check.
resinated666 2 years ago
Now is not the time to play race as a factor. Now is the time for our country to unite, not to divide. and we can't get there without work and effort. Sure the persident is black, but that doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Tha means you have to start representing the African American race the right way, not the wrong. Stop disrespecting our own, stop putting the lighter shades on a pedistol, and stop the violence against one another.
michaelleabraham 2 years ago
The only thing 'released' was a low-resolution scan, proported to be his birth certificate, with the number blanked out. An actual Obama birth certificate has NEVER been produced and the President and his legal council have gone to absurdly extraordinary lengths to prevent the release of the 'vault copy' (including over $800k in legal bills and threats of financial sanctions against the plaintiffs lawyers). He could simply release the vault copy and tell the 'nutters' to fuck off, but he WON'T.
acsial 2 years ago 4
exactly, because it's fake.
he could have helped many with that money.
the photos are also dr'd . certain angles giving a supposed proof while leaving out other critical writings to be seen. i think it's many different docs that are real along with the fake one. kinda like the missing link many believe in 'lucy'. he knows many are gullible and pushing it to the obama extreme.
obama bin lyin' impeach now.
AlpondrickTheGreat 2 years ago 2
When Obama was running for president and gas was 4.00 a gallon. Offshore drilling was mentioned and he said you can not drill your way out of a problem. Isn't he doing the same thing with the stimulus bill, by spending your way out of a problem? Reckless overspending got us in this mess to begin with! It defies any known logic .
Gamera49 2 years ago 3
yes, it's his plan to do us in.
probably has a hidden bunker somewhere for when his chaotic agenda of division ensues. he claims to 'unite' but in reality he has a PLAN to separate us even further.
you're absolutely right about spending what we do not have. it's the MOST INSANE CONTRADICTION.
AlpondrickTheGreat 2 years ago
NO birth certificate.
Am I a racist, or are you an Obama worshiper?
1enzeder 3 years ago
You're an undercover racist.
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
Well I am a white guy who married a woman of another dark-skinned race. Maybe you should ask her if I'm a racist. I'm not even an American, and I can understand that anyone, regardless of race, needs to prove they are constitutionally qualified for the office of president. You have been brainwashed by the 200 million dollar Obama mass mind-control campaign, but do you really want a Kenyan-born Indonesian running your country? ( Not that he does, He's just a Kissinger trained globalist puppet.
1enzeder 3 years ago
Thank you for saying that.....it's important to get the message out..it's really not about racism. I would have happily voted for Alan Keyes.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Alan Keyes had ran before and ran agian, why didn't you vote for him?
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
Alan Keyes stepped down when McCain was nominated.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Looks like you supported for McCain.
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
Let me guess you got that from the KKK site. Oh did you know the KKK stated they are not racist?
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
You're out of your mind. Do you realize you are the racist? I am saying anyone, applying for any job has to produce the documents to prove they are qualified. Only a racist, whose brain is completely obsessed with skin color could twist a statement like that to have anything to do with racism. Obama was picked up out of college by Kissinger, the ultimate white supremacist, and groomed for this. One of his first acts has been to introduce 'family planning' funding to abort black babies.
1enzeder 3 years ago
What evidence do you have for that statement. Where you Obama's bitch? Did you work for Kissinger?
Noooo, you got your source from the internet and watching youtube videos. Well "My friend" that's not credible. You're talking about the same tool, Internet, that uses two girls eating out of one cup of shit as your source of entertanment as the tool for your research?
Any research done on the internet are not credible because to this day, bullshit is found easier on the net then ever.
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
Go on say it... " I Love Obama"... " Obama is going to save us"..." I'm in love with him" .... Isn't he just dreamy?
1enzeder 3 years ago
Are you insane? You love Obama? Do you know he's about to send the dollar to hell with that stimulis package he's trying to pass?
YOU NEED TO WAKE UP.
YOU ARE BLIND
OPEN YOUR EYES 1enzeder
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
NO ! Obama scares the crap out of me. I was mocking some idiot who was accusing everyone who speaks against Obama as being racist. He is the elites lap dog who is going to sell the US public the crushing of the US constitution and personal liberty, destruction of the currency, elimination of American sovereignty, Introduction of the American Union, Transfer to martial law and the systematic mass extermination in the FEMA camps. Obama is a Kenyan born Indonesian.
1enzeder 3 years ago
We have to band together brother because we cant have this KFC coon Watermelon eating Jungle Bunny African Spear Chucker be our president. I'm not a racist and I didn't call him the n-word but he is a socialist. Look up the Arian Nation site brother, he's a socialist.
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
You're scary.
1enzeder 3 years ago
Why is that scary? Oh are you an Obamabot? How can you sell out your own race bro? We are decreasing in numbers in America and soon the USA will be run by monkies and beaners. I'm not a racist but we must protect America.
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
"We are decreasing in numbers in America and soon the USA will be run by monkies and beaners. I'm not a racist but we must protect America."
It's amazing that you can write these two sentences together. Say thing is, you probably believe it.
Glasya666 3 years ago 2
If you're on the arian site then you ARE a racist! And this country has had enough Trailer Park living-Fucking their Relatives-
Meth Lab making Crackers for President!-Thats whats got us into this Fucked up mess we're in now-A bunch of toothless,hillbilly Honkies who did'nt know what the fuck they were doing!!!
mypuss77 2 years ago
What do you need links for the newspapers online..you think I don't read them also....whatever. Go worship your messiah.....lucifer.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
I would have voted for Alan Keyes happily.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Barak Obama is an American citizen. Get over it. His birth certificate has been seen by the people who matter and it fulfills the requirements.
Those who prolong this stupidity will end up in a mental asylum.
bgrawhot 3 years ago
They probably will be locked up for dissenting and standing up for the constitution if Obama has anything to do with it. But it wont mean they're wrong. Thats how all democracies collapse into fascism, when the zombies start chanting for the destruction of all who oppose their savior.
1enzeder 3 years ago
all you people that, insist obama was born in kenya are just STUID. just say it, you hate the fact that a black man is president.the is changing. so you roll with it or get rolled over.
mz809grl 3 years ago 2
its possible to not like someone because of their politics...but if you say you dont like barack obama everyone assumes youre racist. The fact that you even bring up race like that prooves how ignorant you really are. I don't like Barack Obama because of his politics! Until he prooves me wrong I won't like him! and im not a racist! I could not care less what colour his skin is, I just can almost guarantee he will not do a good job and im not gonna get into why because i have no room left to type
mikebogdan 3 years ago
The KKK don't admit they do not like Obama for his race but for his political agenda and his "Socialist" ways. I mean the KKK, the most racist group in America saying they are not racist? Come on who the hell are you fooling?
Secretvideo09 3 years ago
Born in U.S. + American Mom + American Dad = Natural Born Citizen
barnieca 3 years ago
So... if hes got nothing to hide... spend 20 bucks and turn it over... instead hes spending 800,000 to block the case.
BoyKagome 3 years ago
not under US law. Only born in the US.
tgear77 3 years ago
Rosalin113 here's some information for you. Happy New Year!!
youtube - watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQIn113
barnieca 3 years ago
I am tired of stupid and ignorant people thinking that being Muslim is bad. THIS IS A RELIGION BASED ON ISLAM. Not all Muslims are TERRORISTS OK? Read more and educate yourself.
rosalin113 3 years ago 4
Another thing CaliforniaSunshine_you said " both of his fathers were Muslims" He saw his real father ONCE and Lolo Soetoro didn't have to much influence on him anyway he was just a boy,so if he was listed in school as "Muslim" maybe his mom lied to put him into school in Indonesia. Gosh! Again Read before posting.
rosalin113 3 years ago 2
I look at it this way. You say being Muslim isn't bad, but Muslim countries do things like public executions, beheadings, hangings, stonings, and etc. The places that do this have Muslim leaders that believe their holy book says it's right so excuse me if I think Muslims are bad. I don't see the majority of them complaining about what their so called government does to people who make mistakes.
MrBenjamin247 3 years ago
You are talking about Radical Muslims not Muslims. There are thousands of Muslims in the the United States and other parts of the World,this doesn't mean they are all terrorists. Muslim is a religion, a peaceful religion. Read from reliable sources.
karime888 3 years ago
every christian country in history has done the same things. sometimes worse.
zealots are zealots.
blackjonboy 3 years ago 2
I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to Chicagos dirt. That governor won't go down without revealing all he knows about Obama...it just starting. The tides of change...momentum.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
I want to see Bush's report cards. Wait, never mind.
chgosatrap 3 years ago
I want to see what communist clubs your messiah belonged to in college. I wanted to see that he wasn't born in Kenya like his grandmother and the Prime Minister of Kenya are claiming. Yes that is right....they have his birth place Mombossa a new tourist spot. Hawaii accepts births out of the country for two years after a birth. She was delayed in Kenya after boarding a flight for a Hawaii to far into her pregnancy. Obama's grandmother witnessed the birth.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Jesus is the Messiah, and is Jewish.
re: PM and Obama's Grandmother, I want to suggest study in linguistics, and learning about translations. I'm an interpreter, so I am not uttering tripe. Yes, Barack SENIOR was born in Kenya.
Intersting: Barack Jr.'s mom was not allowed to board a plane b/c she was too far along in pregnancy, yet Palin got on a plane,(11 hour flight), AFTER her water broke.
As for clubs, it is known that Harvard dudes (Bush included) are in Skull and Bones.
chgosatrap 3 years ago
I agree Jesus is Messiah and is Jewish and I'm glad you said that :). I am referring to the God like image the media and Farrakhan have given to Obama. Palin is younger then Obama...so it is irrelevent what they did in the 1960's in another country. The Prime Mininster of Kenya is endorsing Mombossa Hospital in Kenya the birth of America's president. He's interviewed on youtube, check it out. The people are celebrating, as they know it also.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
"Palin is younger then Obama...so it is irrelevent what they did in the 1960's in another country."
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I don't understand that part. Palin just had the baby 8 months ago. She is claiming to have taken a plane from Dallas to Alaska AFTER her water broke.
chgosatrap 3 years ago
Ok...we are talking about apples and oranges. Anne Dunham gets on a airplane in Africa nearly 50 years ago and is denied flight, Sarah Palin gets on an airplane in Alaska and flies. Don't you think airlines change over the years and in other countries?
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Airlines change, but a woman's water breaking does not change. After the water breaks, you have just minutes to go. NO airline is going to let you on when you are about to deliver. If they knew that in Africa 47 years ago surely the very well developed USA knew it 8 months ago. No, it is not apples and oranges, it the same logic applied in a non-discriminmatory manner.
chgosatrap 3 years ago
I didn't say she was in labor or that the water had broke. Airlines don't recommend flight after the 7th month. I imagine someone that looked too far along, would mean that the baby had dropped into position for delivery. The stomach is visibly lower.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
My wife and I have had four children. None of the deliveries have lasted longer than 11 hours and each was progressively shorter than the one before. In each case, she was warned not to fly during the last 6 weeks of her pregnancy. But Palin claims to have flown from Dallas to Seattle after her water broke, took a 2nd flight to Alaska, and then was driven for nearly an hour so she could have her child at home. That is more ridiculous than Obama being born in Kenya.
tgear77 2 years ago
Then why not show the birth certificate? Why spend millions defending the right not to have your records shown? Where is the transperancy. Investigate it...good questions...keep looking.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
Foreign leaders know he was born in Kenya, our judges know it. Our media won't oppose him; oh yeah, maybe they will oppose something light, like a pack of cigerettes...lol.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
He couldn't be born in Kenya because there is no evidence that Obama's mother ever traveled to Kenya. No passport containing her name on it ever passed through Kenyan custom. This Blagojevich case tells you that the federal government is doing their job. Don't you think that Obama hasn't been investigated long time ago? No proof that he was born in Kenya.
rosalin113 3 years ago
Honestly, I think Blagojevich is a red-flag that they are investigating Obama; when Obama goes down, he'll go down as fast as he rose to meissah status. Obama's grandmother has a taped conversation online from Berg's case. She says her grandson was born in Mombossa hospital in Kenya. She was at the delivery when Ann Dunham had her grandson. Govermment
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
I watched all about Blagojevich and it was clearly announced that Obama was NOT involved? Don't you think the federals will now by now? The reporter said later that he thinks that Obamas' gramma didn't understand the questio, I read that on a newspaper. Obama's grandmother is not proof that he was born in Kenya,remember she is an old lady, anyway a judge declined that accusation. As I told you there is no record of Ann Dunhan traveling to Kenya, that its been verified.
rosalin113 3 years ago
If the judges know he was born in Kenya, then why Obama is still the President elect? Don't you think he will be removed if this were true? Do you know what are you saying?
rosalin113 3 years ago
Yes, I think there is a huge cover-up.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
There is a huge conspiracy against him here in You tube, is what it is. Racism? Republicans? Xenophobic people? Well you must know but like it or not He is the next President of the United States.
rosalin113 3 years ago
We shall see, if the FBI does their work or not, or if the electoral votes are really given to him. He isn't even president-elect until Dec. 15th.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
I am watching the news too and all the reporters call him President elect Barack Obama since he was elected on Nov.4. He is going to be definitely, and the Inauguration on the 20th.
rosalin113 3 years ago
Thought you might like to know, you can use Obama's middle name now, Hussein. Washington Post said Obama wants to use his full name when he swears in, to ease tensions with the Muslims. Nothing like having a disloyal alligience!! What do those men that fought think about that? What do the families of people that lost young men think? Change, when you think of me, think Hussein, because you never know who I can be. Wonder if he'll be sworn in on the Quran?
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
You know that he is a Christian. Hussein is just a name. Obama said yesterday " Who gave me this name didn't know I was going to run for President". I have a friend named Fidel, he is Cuban and he doesn't have anything to do with Fidel Castro or Communism. Anything you try will not work. I hope Obama can sue you all for slander.
rosalin113 3 years ago
Do you know he said, "I've never been Muslim, never been to a mosque and have never studied the Quran." Did you believe that too?? LOL He went to school in Indonesia (it is the MOST Islamic country in the world). It went to two schools where he is listed as Muslim on the school documentary. His teachers remember his Muslim training. You can find him in Islamic dress throughout his life. Both of his fathers were Muslim. Was Wright's church Christianity? Muslims did not have to convert to join.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
Listen, being Muslim is not a CRIME is just a religion!! He went to Indonesia when he was a boy 6-10yrs the he went back to Hawaii, Hellooo? and was raised by his WHITE grandparents. Read and educate yourself first.
rosalin113 3 years ago
Muslim is not an "inherited trait" that you "pass" to your children ok? Any person can decide the religion they prefer when they grow older and Barack Obama chose being Christian.
rosalin113 3 years ago 2
are you talking about the Grandmother that Obama didn't even go back to Hawaii for her funeral until he could work it into his vacation... what a nice guy this Obama. he really loves the people in his life.
If you think he cares about you or any of the people that voted for him you are a fool.
barnieca 3 years ago
UPDATE: Dec.9-Watch" Supreme Court declines case" It is a complete report on MSNBC about Obama's ridiculous rumors and conspiracy about his citizenship. They said on National tv that OBAMA IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, YEAH!
You see? the truth always wins!
rosalin113 3 years ago 3
The case before the court today has not been ruled on yet.
eaxxdotcom 3 years ago
It will be.
rosalin113 3 years ago
He was sworn in on a Bible. He is President. He uses his middle name to try and ease tensions between us and Muslims. "Hussein" is actually an Arabic word that means "handsome" or "beautiful" It is as common in the Arabic world as Matthew or Mark are in the English World.
tgear77 3 years ago
Why then? Explain that. The Democratic Primary came down to Obama vs. Clinton. Why would the Democrats risk it all on Obama if there was this sword hanging over his head? Especially since last March, polls showed that Clinton had a better chance of beating McCain. Why would they risk it? This was their chance to take back the White House and they would risk it on someone who could be thrown out of office if something so simple as birthplace could do it? Now if you are going to say there is...
tgear77 2 years ago
(cont) mass conspiracy behind him, again: why would they pick him? Hilary's husband was already the Democratic President. Did they think that she couldn't do the same as he did? All of this nonsense has no basis in reality.
tgear77 2 years ago
She had the popular vote..she should have won. She had fight up till the end. I wish she would have won. Think about who financed Obama...it was the Saudi royals.. just like they did his cousin Odinga. His birth certificate issue was brought up by Hillary first. The government is corrupt..they won't hear it. It is taking grand juries raised from the people in each state to investigate it.
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
Obama has the strongest military in his control...control of the worlds finances...
CalifSunshine2008 2 years ago
I know it's hard to understand, but seriously, if you were going to be the President, and everyone was wanting to see your long form BC, wouldn't you just show it to them? What's the big deal?
If you have nothing to hide, then why not disclose? His long form BC has never been shown to anyone. His "original".. It states where he was born, to whom, and what hospital. And he has sealed those records for a reason.
It's pretty darn simple. Stop the rumors show the people u have nothing to hide
vicki5623 3 years ago
Have you seen Bush's or McCain's long bc?
fleurdeliz5 3 years ago
This isn't about race, or religion. This is about TRUST...
1. If Obama had nothing to hide, he wouldn't of spent $500,000 to his lawyers to hide these facts from the American People.
2. He'd instead spend 12 bucks to produce a copy, stand up in front of all of us, and shout "I'm proud of who I am, and I just won the Presidency".
He had his choice, but smugly decided to hide the evidence. WHY? Because he has something to hide.
This isn't about race, or religion. It's about trust.
vicki5623 3 years ago
are you joking???, really, this is absolute nonsense. Obama won, we elected him and he will be our next President. Deal with it. I bet you are a republican arent you?, oh that would be very surprising.
hippygangster 3 years ago
... but I do love my country and don't want to see the elecorate just trash the Constitution and not care if anything in our LEGAL system is enforced.
CPAsheldon 3 years ago
And again, how much creditablity am I suppose to recognize of these people who continue to annoy the courts when they only complain about the non-White candidate?
How perfect can it be? A White candidate is born outside of the US, no one files any suits against him. A non-White is born in the US, 3 suits get filed against him.
Social scientists couldn't have designed a more perfect test of xenophobia.
ProserpinaFC 3 years ago
ProserpinalFC,
You don't have to trust those who are in the courts, they aren't going to be running the Country, are they? But you "DO" have to trust that your President IS who he claims he is.
There are blacks, and whites standing on this issue. Believe me, if Obama had nothing to hide, he'd show us that fact.
Are you seriously telling me that you could care less about our constitutional rights being challenged?
vicki5623 3 years ago
According to this latest arguement against him, it isn't that Obama is hiding anything, it is that he is pointedly ineligable because his father isn't American. Or don't you even know the arguement this dumbass is making?
And since when does being America with brown skin mean you can't be xenophobic?
ProserpinaFC 3 years ago
The latest charge is that he isn't American because his Father is a second-hand British citizen.
Which means, at this point, they are willing to say anything to discredit him, regardless of what he says.
And once again, where were any of these people with McCain, who wasn't born in America AT ALL?
ProserpinaFC 3 years ago
Once again Proserpinal FC, I will have to correct you...
A suit was filed against McCain too on the same issue. You know what he did? He produced every record that needed to be produced, and had congress look it over.
I didn't vote for either McCain or Obama, but I would of voted for Obama if he had been honest about this issue.
He needs to just come clean, one way or the other. Bring back the trust. MY gosh, he hasn't even gotten into office yet, and he has a big blimish.
vicki5623 3 years ago
No, I mean that the same assholes doing this to Obama won't do it to McCain. They see the Black guy and baulk, but are okay with the White guy. THEY are showing a clear xenophobic bias.
And this isn't about him coming clean. He already showed his birth certificate.
What part aren't you understanding? They aren't saying he wasn't born in Hawaii. They are saying that he can't be President because his father isn't American.
The facts are all on the table. Obama isn't hiding anything!
ProserpinaFC 3 years ago
The lawsuit that was thrown out on Monday wasn't saying any of the bullshit claims the others were making:
Yes, we believe he was born in Hawaii.
Yes, he was born after Hawaii became a state.
Yes, his mother is American.
But, because his father isn't and because his father's British citizenship ~CAN~ be passed to his children, Obama can't be considered simply American because he could have also been British.
That is the NEW bullshit claim.
ProserpinaFC 3 years ago
That was the claim that the Supreme Court rejected on Dec.8. It is not new. This has been a rumor since he was running. Just that: internet rumors, there is nothing negative on the media about Obama. The transition to power and that 3 out of 4 people aprove his ideas. 42 days for the Inauguration.
fleurdeliz5 3 years ago