@fgtxpaco7458ss I seriously doubt it will be anywhere near as good as what this video depicts - the true F1 Turbo era. Especially as the V6 Turbo's will be limited.
I worked all of the F1 races in Detroit as a marshal and can just glimpse myself flashing by on the inside of turn one. The me of 27 years ago, that is. This video makes me so nostalgic for those years and for my hometown.
One thing though... the arrow in the track map shown at the beginning of the video is pointing the wrong way. Cars actually ran counter-clockwise on the Detroit circuit.
No way drivers of today in F1 would have guts to drive these old F1 cars, Hamilton, Alonso and so on. Maybe Schumi ? Hehe. Today's cars are not cars, they are computers with way too small engines. F1 today are F3.
Yes, turbos will be back in F1, but I don´t expect this kind of power any more. 1500 hp and no traction control? No one has the balls to drive that today, nor the FIA to allow it. Guess they will ruin F1 like they´ve ruined WRCs, 1.6 turbo but castrated. Who wants to see a ford fiesta rallying when you´ve seen the group Bs? The world is becoming gay and socialist.
F1 is still the most money driven sport in the world, and if they decide 1,6 litre turbo engines, with additional power coming from new inventions like KERS and whatever, then there's tons of money to be made.
F1 needs to be at the forefront of technology, and if more manafacturers can be involved in it, that means more money.
The audience killed Group B rallying. Idiots in Portugal and elsewhere who couldn't get out of the way, and stood on the road.
Spectacular!! wheelspin on all gears.. always on countersteer at the exit of every curve.... no traction control, no automatic gearshift... just BALLS!
is it me or where the mid to early 80s the pinnacle of motor sports. Group b rally, turbo f1, imsa. I dont think we will ever see racing like we had in the 80s again. Now its all traction control paddle shift, stability control bs.
yeah !!! that is the time where the "traction control = right foot" hehehehe that is driving on it's most perfect form, courage + huge balls + a bit of insanity...
those turbo f-1 cars must have been terrible to drive with their light weight and the engines boosted with up to 4 -5 bar producing massive lag and a lot of torque
The announcer says at 0:10sec "now have to tip-toe around Detroit in the rain..." Men driving in this era have balls of steel the size of grapefruits... they do not tip toe!
Great demonstration of the difficulties involved in driving an F1 car in the wet. I especially enjoyed the slide under power up the straight around 1:01
get these cars out of the donington museum dust them off and fire them back up.....bring them back to f1,then again somehow doubt todays drivers would be able to drive them...
@hottotrot75 Keke Rosberg said in his day, no ways in hell would guys as young as what you see today be able to drive the turbo cars from the late 70's to the mid 80's competitively. They'd see their arses.
The movie, not documentary, Grand Prix of 1966. Besides the cast of actors, has some professional pilots of the time. Cool to see that the tv transmission of racing in F1 today is much like the placement of cameras of the film.
Lap of the gods: documentary with several drivers in the past, narrated by Murray Walker. Two DVD discs.
On YouTube, looking for the names of the older drivers, you can find much good to see. Phil Hill, Graham Hill, Juan-Manuel Fangio, Jim Clark, Jochen Rindt, Jack Brabham, Richie Ginther, Bruce McLaren, Jack Stewart, Gilles Villeneuve, Nigel Mansell, Alain Prost, Niki Lauda, Nelson Piquet, Emerson Fittipaldi and so on.
The film and documentaries can also be found, in pieces, here on YouTube.
The past of Formula 1 was much more exciting and the pilots were more charismatic. At the era of this video, pilots needed much more courage to take an F1 car. Today they know that the risk of dying is much lower. We have seen Kubica in Canada 2007, also Massa in Hungary 2009.
@rcrg72 excitement doesn't mean risk for the pilot. Excitement means a safe car, but (about the new F1) with some differences between the cars (turbo, tires, etc)
I agree. Nowadays tracks are less favorable for overtaking. The pilots do not have the strong personality that the ancients had. They Accept the lack of competitiveness, they are waiting for the car that is ahead go to pit stop to try to gain a position.
Brakes very powerful of nowadays hamper their work. And they accept. The accidents that I mentioned, if happened in 1994, the two would be dead. So why not make deeper changes? Favoring overtakes and natural talent of the pilots.
You forgot that cars are actually incredibly strong. Kubica in Canada 2007. All complained of the new tracks, very slow. Not to remove the safety of F1! That's not what I said.
Yep,all correct ideas. The newer F1 cars are obviously (technologie evolution) much quicker than the older one´s. But there is a place were they aren´t as fast, and that is the straights:). Even considering the later V 10´s, they weren´t much faster, if faster at all. Not to mencion those turbo engines in qualy trim;)
In spite of the less powerful engines, today´s F1 cars are much quicker than those because of better compound tyres, better brakes, gear box and suspension engineering (stability)
@ianrkav definitle the today's cars everyting on the new cars are bether then the old one yes the old one had more power but the new have more rpm bether breaks ,tires, suspension , aerodynamics , the festest f1 cars where the lest version of the V10 whit the traction control
Very impressive job of Eddy Cheever driving the Renault F1 car in 1983 (he was the team-mate of Alain Prost who finished second in the 1983 F1 championship). I saw him driving both March F2 and Osella F2 cars during two events of the Grand Prix of PAU at the end of the 70s (He won this famous street-race with the Osella F2 car). Thanks for this great video of a very quick driver on the wet!
I presume you're referring to yourself when you say "dumbass"...? Crap, buddy! That's what you'd find in your pants if you stepped on the loud pedal in an F1 - new or old. Why do you think so vey few people can do it, and even less do it well?
I wasn't referring to myself. How can you know that, you don't know me.
Because there are only so many cars available on each season. Are you a F1 driver yourself? Have you driven one? Then don't try to sound like you have and shut the fuck up.
totally agree. I'm actually thinking while watching this vid why isn't someone putting a turbo back into a F1 car, turbos are better these days, and with no re-fueling next year, if done right, will let the team need less fuel as the mixture of air and fuel is better due to the turbo(s) cleaning the air as it enters the engine. The teams could use it in the same way as KERS works, switching from better fuel milage to more power for an overtake.
It would be very very expensive to design a new engine (again). In the 80's renault got 1400hp from their gualify-engine and it was just 1500cc V6. How small the engine should be nowdays that the cars wouldn't be overpowered? Or they could fit a low pressure turbo to keep the power (and torque) in endurable numbers.
@mingh87 Apparantly on another video comment, they're bringing back Turbo in 2013. F1 website said they're also making the engines smaller and more "eco friendly/efficient" with V6's..
@tyronnezx It's going to be Inline 4 not V6 this time around, and the V6 Turbo's in the 80's did in NO WAY sound like shit. What in the hell are you saying? Have you not heard the noise that the 98T made? Its jaw dropping.
@tyronnezx I prefer the V6 turbo's to the V10's I find the V10's sound nice, but very hollow. Unless you mean the V10/V12 engines from right after and around the turbo ban. Those sound very meaty.
That just looks like too much work. I think he was counter steering out of every turn for as long as he was steering into each turn. Scary as hell on a street circuit as well
Not allways true. I love old footage of F1 aswell but loads of people forget that F1 cars started using traction control and other electronics in the mid 80s. Today, slicks are back and traction control is not allowed.
sorry... but NO traction control since mid '90s in F!, also , at the ageof this footage , there was only slick tires.Plus the gears was changed in the traditional way, not like today...
The cars only had active suspension for the 1987 season, on the 99T and FW11B. TC and updated active suspension wouldn't come back until 1991 with the Williams FW14.
Officially that is true (here is the big but)......but lots of teams threwout the years, have been found quilty of doing something illegal to their cars. In 1985-86 Benetton were suspected of using some kind of driver aid system.
Speedlimone have you ever raced a really quick superkart? After making the uninformed comments you do, i seriously doubt it. Karts are quick and they not easy to drive. I have raced for a long time and i know what im doing. I also know that the speed a good superkart goes could kill you if something goes horribly wrong.
Its sad those days are long gone. Id love to see a modern day F1 driver even do one lap in those conditions. I bet most just simply couldn't. They have been raised to let the car drive them, not drive the car.
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The driver is Didier Pironi, the car is a Tyrrell-Cosworth 008 and the year is 1978. This year ('78) his team mate Patrick Depailler got his first winning race for Tyrrell . It wouldn't be until 1980 that Didier won his first race with a Ligier-Cosworth JS11/15. Nowadays Didier Pironi is one of the biggest Fernando Alonso fans.
have u ever driven a go-kart on full-wet circuit wearing full-slick tyre??? the feeling is similiar but on f1 cars are much faster...even when u were very gentle on the throttle but rear tyre sway on the exit even on the straight..respect to the 80's f1 driver
That's also bullshit. I have raced Karts, raced cars and worked in motorsport all my life, now running my own team and I know many people who have died in Go-karts. So obviously you talk shit SpeedLimone so just shut up please.
I tell you what, Eddie Cheever has that car on the edge all the way round that lap! You just can't beat a good bit of F1 turbo action. If I could turn back time....
Oversteer? Dude thats real racing, that were the days when the men drove, you know when the car didnt drive itself and the races were won by driving not faster pit stops?
But then they wouldn't be the pinnacle of motorsport. And its appeal is lessened. They need a balance between technology and skill and speed. Hopefully 09 gives a good balance.
crazy stuff it must take some balls to keep the boot into whilst sliding towards the wall
GonePro27 22 hours ago
"Unforgiving walls" XD
dks11000 5 months ago
..and all of this with no traction control and 1500hp to dominate. Great Cheever, l'americano di Roma.
hpept 6 months ago
F1 turbo era = balls era
dks11000 6 months ago 3
wow oldschool rockzzz
Firion44 6 months ago
nice driving, awful track
Foxx1981 6 months ago
Wow. This is real racing, that takes real skill.
alexzhu1 7 months ago
News!! F1 Turbo V6 in 2014!!
fgtxpaco7458ss 7 months ago
@fgtxpaco7458ss I seriously doubt it will be anywhere near as good as what this video depicts - the true F1 Turbo era. Especially as the V6 Turbo's will be limited.
kevatcrewe 6 months ago
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@kevatcrewe i dont know life is full of suprizes
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fgtxpaco7458ss 7 months ago
great driving !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FormulaOneExpert 7 months ago
So... Eddie Chiever was hell of a driver. Amazing performance. This a fight bettween man, machine and nature.
Insane driving. I remember F1 back in the late 80s and this was the sound of a turbo engine. Still as good as the V10´s and V12´s. Just different.
Thanks to the owner of the video for sharing this.
HF1600ie 8 months ago
I worked all of the F1 races in Detroit as a marshal and can just glimpse myself flashing by on the inside of turn one. The me of 27 years ago, that is. This video makes me so nostalgic for those years and for my hometown.
One thing though... the arrow in the track map shown at the beginning of the video is pointing the wrong way. Cars actually ran counter-clockwise on the Detroit circuit.
bluv6 8 months ago
Today until a Playstation gamer drive a F1 car!
GKOBE 9 months ago 2
No way drivers of today in F1 would have guts to drive these old F1 cars, Hamilton, Alonso and so on. Maybe Schumi ? Hehe. Today's cars are not cars, they are computers with way too small engines. F1 today are F3.
MeBest777 9 months ago
im not going to lie that was pretty cool
Twoquick2kill 9 months ago
1200BHP car no electronic help+wet track or dry=God given skill and Big Balls
now thats what i call real racing:D!
fgtxpaco7458ss 9 months ago
@fgtxpaco7458ss haha.. i feel for him.. i bet those tyres were smokin on spin too.. 1 sec off a heart attack for him near walls ..
chumpdiddidty 8 months ago
The worst type of wall to crash into is an unforgiving one.
John27346 9 months ago
2 Nascar fans saw this and couldn't believe the right hand corners.
ImFasterThanTheStig 9 months ago 4
@ImFasterThanTheStig NASCAR races on road courses too...
MattA1GP 7 months ago
Yes, turbos will be back in F1, but I don´t expect this kind of power any more. 1500 hp and no traction control? No one has the balls to drive that today, nor the FIA to allow it. Guess they will ruin F1 like they´ve ruined WRCs, 1.6 turbo but castrated. Who wants to see a ford fiesta rallying when you´ve seen the group Bs? The world is becoming gay and socialist.
ablacklakeawhitelake 10 months ago 4
@ablacklakeawhitelake
Cut the crap.
F1 is still the most money driven sport in the world, and if they decide 1,6 litre turbo engines, with additional power coming from new inventions like KERS and whatever, then there's tons of money to be made.
F1 needs to be at the forefront of technology, and if more manafacturers can be involved in it, that means more money.
The audience killed Group B rallying. Idiots in Portugal and elsewhere who couldn't get out of the way, and stood on the road.
McLarenMercedes 9 months ago 3
Lol that's pornography. There's even a grawling crazy bitch. That sounds like an angry troll
Mawerik024 10 months ago
holy shit this is amazing ... the car needs a sidepod addition just to hold the massive balls that it takes to drive this on the limit !
disengagejam 10 months ago
Spectacular!! wheelspin on all gears.. always on countersteer at the exit of every curve.... no traction control, no automatic gearshift... just BALLS!
ciarlienchi 11 months ago 16
Was that wheelspin in fourth gear??!
ssapoohwanac 11 months ago 2
@ssapoohwanac took the words straight out of my mouth
vertigo8 11 months ago
MENTAL CAR,CRAZY DRIVING.TOP VID.
MrVolvo340 1 year ago
@ShockWaveTom - 4cyl turbo engines, most probably 1.6litre engines, same power output, but half the emissions!!
Rossi111Boy 1 year ago
Just listen to the spin up on that biatttccchh !!! EPIC !!!
turboslag 1 year ago
Eddie Cheever = hero
lordlingcp 1 year ago
iirc, Saturday morning was the wet session that year, not Friday, but not 100% positive
AdrianInflorida 1 year ago
Wet street circuit in an 80's F1 car: I can't think of a scarier driving situation.
blockheadface 1 year ago
@blockheadface: or one that's more shit yourself exciting.
idlehanz1 1 year ago
is it me or where the mid to early 80s the pinnacle of motor sports. Group b rally, turbo f1, imsa. I dont think we will ever see racing like we had in the 80s again. Now its all traction control paddle shift, stability control bs.
airbats801 1 year ago
Awesome driving.
MessageKyle 1 year ago
yeah !!! that is the time where the "traction control = right foot" hehehehe that is driving on it's most perfect form, courage + huge balls + a bit of insanity...
bpmelo 1 year ago
This is real F1 and real driving
aerdna75 1 year ago
lightening reaction,and he needs it !!!! awsome. much respect to eddie
thegriff2 1 year ago
To drive a beast like this you need a heart as big as Ther Netherlands. Heroes!
a51stef 1 year ago
those turbo f-1 cars must have been terrible to drive with their light weight and the engines boosted with up to 4 -5 bar producing massive lag and a lot of torque
3dfxnd3 1 year ago
lol, crazy!! wheelspin on all gears!
theundeadx 1 year ago
Patrick Deppailer rulls much more on the rain, allways redlining :D /watch?v=KqZBJCFS_Ng&feature=related
franktheboy 1 year ago
The announcer says at 0:10sec "now have to tip-toe around Detroit in the rain..." Men driving in this era have balls of steel the size of grapefruits... they do not tip toe!
Orangebike666 1 year ago
the man had a bigger cockpit for his balls
belmon125 1 year ago 23
what an animal, that looks absolutely frightening.
roflex2 1 year ago
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Great demonstration of the difficulties involved in driving an F1 car in the wet. I especially enjoyed the slide under power up the straight around 1:01
fateola 1 year ago
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fateola 1 year ago
High control!!! o\o
luizcarloscic 1 year ago
check out that wheel spin
spiritcrusher923 1 year ago
that man had really big balls to drive that car, that fast and in those conditions...
josh182389 1 year ago
this is the perfect scenario to seperate the men from the boys..
Johnzy23 1 year ago
Weird to say it but Detroit was actually a good track. Even better than Indy for F1 purposes. Only Watkins Glen and Long Beach stand above it.
EJ25RUN 1 year ago
get these cars out of the donington museum dust them off and fire them back up.....bring them back to f1,then again somehow doubt todays drivers would be able to drive them...
hottotrot75 1 year ago
@hottotrot75 Keke Rosberg said in his day, no ways in hell would guys as young as what you see today be able to drive the turbo cars from the late 70's to the mid 80's competitively. They'd see their arses.
thestaggie 1 year ago
I think it's 1983.
Vtrullo 1 year ago
Does anyone still remember the battles for positions in the past. Senna / Mansell, Senna / Prost, etc ...
In the 70 and 80, all overtaking were made in the braking in bends.
Watch here on YouTube: ''Masters of Racing: Villeneuve vs. Arnoux''.
Good times.
rcrg72 1 year ago
Do you know more clips like this that I can find or maybe some kind of Documentary Film? :)
Ilko2007 1 year ago
The movie, not documentary, Grand Prix of 1966. Besides the cast of actors, has some professional pilots of the time. Cool to see that the tv transmission of racing in F1 today is much like the placement of cameras of the film.
Lap of the gods: documentary with several drivers in the past, narrated by Murray Walker. Two DVD discs.
Ayrton Senna - The Right To Win.
rcrg72 1 year ago
On YouTube, looking for the names of the older drivers, you can find much good to see. Phil Hill, Graham Hill, Juan-Manuel Fangio, Jim Clark, Jochen Rindt, Jack Brabham, Richie Ginther, Bruce McLaren, Jack Stewart, Gilles Villeneuve, Nigel Mansell, Alain Prost, Niki Lauda, Nelson Piquet, Emerson Fittipaldi and so on.
The film and documentaries can also be found, in pieces, here on YouTube.
rcrg72 1 year ago
I was interested in spasific driving moments, like the Villeneuve and Amoux battle, something like that..
Ilko2007 1 year ago
Try searching for:
prost vs lauda, lauda vs villeneuve.
The names of other pilots can also be searched as well. Senna vs Prost. Understood. You end up finding great moments in F1. Fangio vs hawthorn, etc.
senna overtakes, mansell overtakes, Prost battles.
I started to add some videos on my channel lately. The F1 of 60,70,80 to 90, was much better. I had some races recorded, the time of Senna.
rcrg72 1 year ago
Yoooo, I'll check your channel right now, thanks for the help :)
Ilko2007 1 year ago
The past of Formula 1 was much more exciting and the pilots were more charismatic. At the era of this video, pilots needed much more courage to take an F1 car. Today they know that the risk of dying is much lower. We have seen Kubica in Canada 2007, also Massa in Hungary 2009.
rcrg72 1 year ago
@rcrg72 excitement doesn't mean risk for the pilot. Excitement means a safe car, but (about the new F1) with some differences between the cars (turbo, tires, etc)
ambro91s 1 year ago
I agree. Nowadays tracks are less favorable for overtaking. The pilots do not have the strong personality that the ancients had. They Accept the lack of competitiveness, they are waiting for the car that is ahead go to pit stop to try to gain a position.
rcrg72 1 year ago
Brakes very powerful of nowadays hamper their work. And they accept. The accidents that I mentioned, if happened in 1994, the two would be dead. So why not make deeper changes? Favoring overtakes and natural talent of the pilots.
You forgot that cars are actually incredibly strong. Kubica in Canada 2007. All complained of the new tracks, very slow. Not to remove the safety of F1! That's not what I said.
rcrg72 1 year ago
Without much time. Sometimes I write too fast. Can I have expressed myself badly. Cheers.
rcrg72 1 year ago
anyone know the name of the video this is taken from?
midy007 2 years ago
I guess its taken from one of the "Lap Of The Gods" episodes, you can find them here on youtube.
bubi8894 2 years ago
Yep,all correct ideas. The newer F1 cars are obviously (technologie evolution) much quicker than the older one´s. But there is a place were they aren´t as fast, and that is the straights:). Even considering the later V 10´s, they weren´t much faster, if faster at all. Not to mencion those turbo engines in qualy trim;)
Tuscopa 2 years ago
Which would be the quickest around Monacco, today's cars or an 80's era turbo? Must check the lap times! Monacco hasn't changed much has it!
ianrkav 2 years ago
In spite of the less powerful engines, today´s F1 cars are much quicker than those because of better compound tyres, better brakes, gear box and suspension engineering (stability)
kikekike69 2 years ago
@ianrkav definitle the today's cars everyting on the new cars are bether then the old one yes the old one had more power but the new have more rpm bether breaks ,tires, suspension , aerodynamics , the festest f1 cars where the lest version of the V10 whit the traction control
Boocho88 2 years ago
Yes, but today's V8's are just as quick now as the last V10's! Those F1 engineers really are a deviously clever bunch!
ianrkav 2 years ago
the older cars had more rpm didnt they? I'm sure there is a limiter now.
frankieflash 2 years ago
Very impressive job of Eddy Cheever driving the Renault F1 car in 1983 (he was the team-mate of Alain Prost who finished second in the 1983 F1 championship). I saw him driving both March F2 and Osella F2 cars during two events of the Grand Prix of PAU at the end of the 70s (He won this famous street-race with the Osella F2 car). Thanks for this great video of a very quick driver on the wet!
SCHOENDORF64 2 years ago
It's time to change FIA rules
geehades 2 years ago
It's time to ban those car robots and switch to mechanical cars like the 70's or 80's.
KillerDreck89 2 years ago
Couldn't agree more. Any dumbass can drive modern F1s reasonably fast. Let's go back to over-powered go-karts.
1stGoRide 2 years ago
Cool. I love go-karts.
KillerDreck89 2 years ago
LOL great analogy
FTomcat89 2 years ago
I presume you're referring to yourself when you say "dumbass"...? Crap, buddy! That's what you'd find in your pants if you stepped on the loud pedal in an F1 - new or old. Why do you think so vey few people can do it, and even less do it well?
gjansen48 2 years ago
I wasn't referring to myself. How can you know that, you don't know me.
Because there are only so many cars available on each season. Are you a F1 driver yourself? Have you driven one? Then don't try to sound like you have and shut the fuck up.
1stGoRide 2 years ago
This is around the late 70's early 80's and its eddy cheever, who was arguably the best rain driver of his time, and in a renault
schmittyf12 2 years ago 2
Automotive ballet!
GibbononanOrange 2 years ago
I think he's actually getting wheel spin in fourth.
b0zla 2 years ago 2
that's a great video. spent more time in opposite lock than going straight. love it.
brucecheewai 2 years ago
i think he is just playing with some countersteering :D... practice time ... awesome era...
jimraynor3 2 years ago
F1 Porn - I'm in heaven. Thanks for the upload! :-)
DAH210774 2 years ago 40
it's the right time to a turbo return in f1!...
mingh87 2 years ago 49
totally agree. I'm actually thinking while watching this vid why isn't someone putting a turbo back into a F1 car, turbos are better these days, and with no re-fueling next year, if done right, will let the team need less fuel as the mixture of air and fuel is better due to the turbo(s) cleaning the air as it enters the engine. The teams could use it in the same way as KERS works, switching from better fuel milage to more power for an overtake.
Could we see a 1000bhp F1 car on full boost?
AcceleracerWylde 2 years ago
It would be very very expensive to design a new engine (again). In the 80's renault got 1400hp from their gualify-engine and it was just 1500cc V6. How small the engine should be nowdays that the cars wouldn't be overpowered? Or they could fit a low pressure turbo to keep the power (and torque) in endurable numbers.
kaupunkimoukari 2 years ago
@mingh87 the f1 today car´s it´s made for pussy drivers and Flander´s
kandutery 1 year ago 3
@mingh87 can you preditct the future or something? lol
PJ2436 1 year ago
@mingh87 like in 2013 or something? :P
ljw571 1 year ago
@mingh87 Apparantly on another video comment, they're bringing back Turbo in 2013. F1 website said they're also making the engines smaller and more "eco friendly/efficient" with V6's..
ShockWaveTom 1 year ago
@mingh87 Naaah, bring back the V12's. ;)
nickeroo 11 months ago
@mingh87 Turbo's back in 2013, I say bring back Detroit and Adelaide back in 2014!
bob333336 7 months ago
@bob333336 .
i want a V10 turbo. V6 is gunna sound like shit
tyronnezx 7 months ago
@tyronnezx It's going to be Inline 4 not V6 this time around, and the V6 Turbo's in the 80's did in NO WAY sound like shit. What in the hell are you saying? Have you not heard the noise that the 98T made? Its jaw dropping.
bob333336 7 months ago
@bob333336
yeah the lotus was great but doesnt compare anything to the V10 f1 cars
tyronnezx 7 months ago
@tyronnezx
actually look up Jarno Trulli Qualifying Special-Bahrain 2005 . u'll see what i mean
tyronnezx 7 months ago
@tyronnezx I prefer the V6 turbo's to the V10's I find the V10's sound nice, but very hollow. Unless you mean the V10/V12 engines from right after and around the turbo ban. Those sound very meaty.
bob333336 7 months ago
@tyronnezx doesn't matter how many cylinders there are on a turbo. the exhaust feeds back and you don't get that engine sound.
ilferrari 7 months ago
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Blakk69 2 years ago
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Blakk69 2 years ago
the year is 1983
Thaswordguy 2 years ago
eso es tener huevos, y con lluvia xavales
TraxRT 2 years ago
It is almost power sliding on a wet track
RvE1985 2 years ago
Just awesome compared to the utterly crap & boring F1 today, plus far better driving aswell - well done Eddie!!
kevatcrewe 2 years ago
That just looks like too much work. I think he was counter steering out of every turn for as long as he was steering into each turn. Scary as hell on a street circuit as well
ursavostock 2 years ago 2
sod that ! blooody dangerous! but fun well driven eddie.
kfs025 2 years ago 3
Too much torque, the driver matters in this kind of cars. Today the best car is the winner...
DonCucho 2 years ago 4
Not allways true. I love old footage of F1 aswell but loads of people forget that F1 cars started using traction control and other electronics in the mid 80s. Today, slicks are back and traction control is not allowed.
ssssroryssss2 2 years ago
sorry... but NO traction control since mid '90s in F!, also , at the ageof this footage , there was only slick tires.Plus the gears was changed in the traditional way, not like today...
francy4363 2 years ago
The Williams and Lotus both had active suspension and traction control in the 80s.
ssssroryssss2 2 years ago
The cars only had active suspension for the 1987 season, on the 99T and FW11B. TC and updated active suspension wouldn't come back until 1991 with the Williams FW14.
bjsdoc 2 years ago
Officially that is true (here is the big but)......but lots of teams threwout the years, have been found quilty of doing something illegal to their cars. In 1985-86 Benetton were suspected of using some kind of driver aid system.
ssssroryssss2 2 years ago
when it came up to the first corner i thought i was about to watch the worst driver in history .. but he was actually pretty good!
TuneViper 2 years ago
If anyone lives in Detroit or has been to this GP => please contact me
tobiasf1 2 years ago
I live about 100km south of Detroit. I worked as a pit marshal at all Detroit F1 races, by the Lotus team.
sololaw 2 years ago
Speedlimone have you ever raced a really quick superkart? After making the uninformed comments you do, i seriously doubt it. Karts are quick and they not easy to drive. I have raced for a long time and i know what im doing. I also know that the speed a good superkart goes could kill you if something goes horribly wrong.
wogga8 2 years ago
Its sad those days are long gone. Id love to see a modern day F1 driver even do one lap in those conditions. I bet most just simply couldn't. They have been raised to let the car drive them, not drive the car.
JSpencerFan23 2 years ago 3
What beautiful power delivery these old 1.5 litre cars with huge turbo's had ;-)
If I ran F1, we would have pram tyres mounted on 1000bhp 900cc Turbo cars with no down force.
I admit not many would finish the race, but it would be exciting for a few laps.
gpfwestie 3 years ago
Hopefully the Indy Car will switch to those engines.
afannell 2 years ago
Indy Car? Please. Fucking boring.
PeterMayer 2 years ago
absolutely fucking insane! obviously i need to work on my car control =P
indelible721 3 years ago 2
This is Eddie Cheever In the Renault RE40 in 1983. His teammate was Alain Prost
turismo1980 3 years ago 2
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The driver is Didier Pironi, the car is a Tyrrell-Cosworth 008 and the year is 1978. This year ('78) his team mate Patrick Depailler got his first winning race for Tyrrell . It wouldn't be until 1980 that Didier won his first race with a Ligier-Cosworth JS11/15. Nowadays Didier Pironi is one of the biggest Fernando Alonso fans.
SpeedLimone 3 years ago
Didier Pironi has been dead since 1987.
imbok 3 years ago
So what?
SpeedLimone 3 years ago
So What?!
You said he was one of Alonso's biggest fans?
He can't be if he died in 1987?
fatboywheadon 3 years ago
awesome!
andrea451236 3 years ago
1:04 close call!!! i wouldn't even try to do laps in those conditions.
S14VH45 3 years ago
i'm sure he waz having a lot of fun 2... :P
dominikei 3 years ago
It looked like he was steering as much with the throttle he was the steering wheel.
mesa401 3 years ago 3
that take guts to drive with no traction control in detroit a hard track to race.
brandensimmons1987 3 years ago
brave very very brave!
kfs025 3 years ago
those were real cars ! not like the remote control ones they have today
clinkercontrol 3 years ago 3
have u ever driven a go-kart on full-wet circuit wearing full-slick tyre??? the feeling is similiar but on f1 cars are much faster...even when u were very gentle on the throttle but rear tyre sway on the exit even on the straight..respect to the 80's f1 driver
a86rallychamp 3 years ago 3
You're right!!! It's an incredible feeling!!
VegaPuma 3 years ago
Yes I have and I like to push the pedal but a go-kart is never gonna kill you.
SpeedLimone 3 years ago
That's also bullshit. I have raced Karts, raced cars and worked in motorsport all my life, now running my own team and I know many people who have died in Go-karts. So obviously you talk shit SpeedLimone so just shut up please.
fatboywheadon 3 years ago
I wasn't thinking of shutting up piece of meat. So I'm talking with an old F1 glory, I didn't know...
SpeedLimone 2 years ago
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very slow car... is 1983 , 1983 cars are very slow , in spa , the times are more than 2.05.
CRISTIANLUISCAMP0Y 3 years ago
No traction...
rcggm 3 years ago
I tell you what, Eddie Cheever has that car on the edge all the way round that lap! You just can't beat a good bit of F1 turbo action. If I could turn back time....
mcqueenthee 3 years ago 2
the Eddy helmt are some that Antony Davidson helmet...
Davidson are a Eddy Cheever fan?
or only likes this helmet draw?
heikki8787 3 years ago
Ohh my god the noise of that engine is just heavan better than now by far!!!
zondaftw 3 years ago 4
Those were the days! What a handful :) Wish I could hear the turbo F1's again today in person
Downcut 3 years ago 3
Murray Walker commenting, right?
Tacococunomuro 3 years ago 4
"no it was James Allen....erm john motson ..AWw Nooo, damn my murryisms". yes it is murry walker.:P
fusionfreq 3 years ago
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terrible track. just a big auto-x.
shanonobanion 3 years ago
montoya had that early 80s driving style that was useles when he showed up in f1 en the early 2000s,
nicolas7910 3 years ago
there is no other way to take that car around there in those conditions whether you are from the 80s or the sodding 20s. FOOL.
twolaneblacktop3000 3 years ago
i cant imagine already being sideways only to have the turbo spool up halfway through the exit
that was some crazy snap oversteer
randomdud 3 years ago
Oversteer? Dude thats real racing, that were the days when the men drove, you know when the car didnt drive itself and the races were won by driving not faster pit stops?
92NB 3 years ago 3
absolutely! taking out TC and engine braking this year and aerodynamics next year is some of the best stuff F1 can do.
the turbo era drivers were stuff of legend though
randomdud 3 years ago 2
Totally 110% AGREED!
They could take the cars used in change of the century back, improve safety on them. They had less downforce, and the drivers would have more to do.
92NB 3 years ago
But then they wouldn't be the pinnacle of motorsport. And its appeal is lessened. They need a balance between technology and skill and speed. Hopefully 09 gives a good balance.
OriginalDaVe 3 years ago
Driving out of his skin, what a buzz.
TonyC1968 3 years ago
That circuit is on Formula One 2005 (spanish version)
Blindkiller64 3 years ago
Big drive....respect Eddy, you've got balls
HondaRacingDevellopm 3 years ago
Captain wheelspin and the Teflon track...
PeteRosenburg 3 years ago
Eddie sure as hell had his hands full in that one. . .
BlueFox284 3 years ago 2
fantastic
zbiry 3 years ago
What a HUGE era !
fwbraz 3 years ago
wow!
ELpumaRACING 3 years ago
OMG amazing
wheelspinning in 4th, opposite lock out of every corner and even in straight line. Awesome stuff
pakkinen 3 years ago 2
It's like he's driving on snow. Great commitment.
corybungo 4 years ago
wow, that's awesome driving by Eddie, esp around 1:30.. very impressive!
michelboons1974 4 years ago
F1 at it's best
mattcrash69 4 years ago
Cheever was one of the best in the wet -
indigoblue555 4 years ago
It's 1983 BTW. Berger got clocked on the front straight at Monza in 1986 at well over 220mph in qualifying trim.
MagicBoyUK76 4 years ago
Do anyone know what speed did these fantastic cars reached in circuits like monza or hockenheim? Thanks you!
goelvoeo 4 years ago
During private testing at Paul Ricard circuit
Pat.Tambay topped 218 mph on the Mistral straight driving a F1 Ferrari Turbo in 1982/83It's a 1,25 miles long straightline.
indigoblue555 4 years ago