don't you get a more efficient electricity-to-storage-to-electricity conversion from lithium ion batteries than you do from generating hydrogen? Also, fuel cells cost millions of dollars whereas and equivalent stack of L-ion cell costs hundreds of thousands (and is dropping).
Honestly there is more of a future in HVDC lines under the sea from Iceland to Europe than there is in Hydrogen.
the only problem with that is that lithium ion batteries arent calsssed as renewable energy cos i dont know if you knew this whilst rambling on and on about a load of crap, hydrogen is the most abundent substance in the entire universe, so yeah, plus it produces water yet its powered by water so...... sorry to shoot you down :-)
Plus, even if Iceland is producing the hydrogen by splitting water, it can do that easily with all the electricity produced by its hydro-electric power dams and it's geo-thermal power plants - neither of which burns a scrap of carbon-based fuel.
We're fully aware of that. That's one of the big reasons why hydrogen production is not viable in most countries. If you pollute to make electricity and use that to create hydrogen... well... you can't really call your hydrogen green fuel now can you?
Iceland's electricity is green because it's hydro powered and geothermal. That's why they're experimenting with hydrogen economy.
Other countries might do the same once they master efficient solar power or other forms of green energy.
I thought that hydrogen cannot actually be feasible as fuel simply because it isn't a natural resource, it is created artificially. Thus hydrogen isn't a source of energy but rather a medium for energy storage just like a battery.
Hydrogen is natural however it is rarely found in a raw gaseous form. Most of the time It must be separated from water (Oxygen DiHydrogen). However the gas coming out of super heated geysers like the ones in Iceland emit raw hydrogen gas because the water is sublimating (going from frozen state to gaseous state while skipping the liquid state).
MOST GYSERS ARE NOT HOT ENOUGH TO SUBLIMATE.
Iceland is a geographical anomaly that it can naturally sublimate water in its geysers.
Iceland is volcanically and geologically active on a large scale. Combine the fact that it is in the arctic circle and covered in glaciers forms the perfect scenario for raw hydrogen gas. Even in Ireland raw hydrogen gas is uncommon.
Hi Seneka, I noticed your question and think I have an idea of the answer. You're right that Hydrogen is a 'holding energy' and would need about 98% of fossil fuel energy to create it. However, with the natural steam resources under iceland, a hydrogen economy can be easily achieved. Have you heard of Chris Martenson? If you 'Google':
"Chris Martenson"
"Crash Course", he's created some films that answered many of my questions. Part 17 and 'Peak Oil' is excellent but its best from the begining
don't you get a more efficient electricity-to-storage-to-electricity conversion from lithium ion batteries than you do from generating hydrogen? Also, fuel cells cost millions of dollars whereas and equivalent stack of L-ion cell costs hundreds of thousands (and is dropping).
Honestly there is more of a future in HVDC lines under the sea from Iceland to Europe than there is in Hydrogen.
cavemanboborj 3 years ago
the only problem with that is that lithium ion batteries arent calsssed as renewable energy cos i dont know if you knew this whilst rambling on and on about a load of crap, hydrogen is the most abundent substance in the entire universe, so yeah, plus it produces water yet its powered by water so...... sorry to shoot you down :-)
NORFIE123456 2 years ago
What a charlatan -- he's not better than Iceland's bankers! What about trying to make gold from shit, like in the Middle Ages?
schkaff 3 years ago
I pump more hydrogen than that in 1 second of cell operation. That setup is a century old.
d3adp001 3 years ago
Plus, even if Iceland is producing the hydrogen by splitting water, it can do that easily with all the electricity produced by its hydro-electric power dams and it's geo-thermal power plants - neither of which burns a scrap of carbon-based fuel.
eatonjask 3 years ago
"I split the water into hydrogen and oxygen."
I wonder how he does that? Maybe by using electricity produced through other means?
TheCrazyFinn 3 years ago
We're fully aware of that. That's one of the big reasons why hydrogen production is not viable in most countries. If you pollute to make electricity and use that to create hydrogen... well... you can't really call your hydrogen green fuel now can you?
Iceland's electricity is green because it's hydro powered and geothermal. That's why they're experimenting with hydrogen economy.
Other countries might do the same once they master efficient solar power or other forms of green energy.
Choken1 3 years ago
can some one write Dr hydrogens name down for me
fox20012 3 years ago
Þorsteinn Sigfússon
johannjoi 3 years ago
oil companies will kill to stop this from happening. why is it they want to lend 'their expertise' in this hydrogen project?
raulitech 3 years ago
i really love iceland's energy policies. very cool in a geographically "hot" region
s5switch 3 years ago 2
i just hope Iceland will survivor the economic onslaught. It's looking pretty bad.
luvmsiahatethegov 3 years ago
I love aljazeera, I don't think I would ever hear about these places without this news channel.
chalkies 3 years ago 7
yes Iceland. I pray for you.
Ariji86 3 years ago
I thought that hydrogen cannot actually be feasible as fuel simply because it isn't a natural resource, it is created artificially. Thus hydrogen isn't a source of energy but rather a medium for energy storage just like a battery.
Seneka4295 3 years ago
Hydrogen is natural however it is rarely found in a raw gaseous form. Most of the time It must be separated from water (Oxygen DiHydrogen). However the gas coming out of super heated geysers like the ones in Iceland emit raw hydrogen gas because the water is sublimating (going from frozen state to gaseous state while skipping the liquid state).
MOST GYSERS ARE NOT HOT ENOUGH TO SUBLIMATE.
Iceland is a geographical anomaly that it can naturally sublimate water in its geysers.
nerdycub 3 years ago
"Hydrogen is natural however it is rarely found in a raw gaseous form."
Yes that's what I meant to say, it cannot be found in large quantities like oil, for example.
I didn't know that Iceland had hydrogen producing geysers though. This is truly an extraordinary thing.
Thank you for your reply.
Seneka4295 3 years ago
Iceland is volcanically and geologically active on a large scale. Combine the fact that it is in the arctic circle and covered in glaciers forms the perfect scenario for raw hydrogen gas. Even in Ireland raw hydrogen gas is uncommon.
nerdycub 3 years ago
Hi Seneka, I noticed your question and think I have an idea of the answer. You're right that Hydrogen is a 'holding energy' and would need about 98% of fossil fuel energy to create it. However, with the natural steam resources under iceland, a hydrogen economy can be easily achieved. Have you heard of Chris Martenson? If you 'Google':
"Chris Martenson"
"Crash Course", he's created some films that answered many of my questions. Part 17 and 'Peak Oil' is excellent but its best from the begining
vanityfox451 3 years ago
I am aware of Chris Martenson and his video seminar. I haven't found time to watch it in its entirety. I plan to do so as soon as I'll find the time.
Thanks for the recommendation thou :-)
Seneka4295 3 years ago
GO ICELAND! push the boundaries of science and mankind! Thats what its all about.
MrFireAss 3 years ago 8
Iceland's population is quite small, but they are quite a creative bunch.
1diocracy 3 years ago 3