Thank you for this video - it helps people to see through the slick hype and the intensive sales spin that surrounds the Lightning Process. The patient charities 'the ME Association', 'Invest in ME', the childrens ME charity 'The Tymes Trust' and the 25% Group patient charity too have grave concerns about Lightning Process. Too many ME patients have become even more ill after doing Lightning Process and doing what the Lightning Trainers told them to.
Some of those who debunk Lightning have years experience of the techniques that Lighting uses. That's how we know Phil Parker's Lightning is a basic personal growth coaching course. Phil Parker has redefined organic ME as stress, used double speak to convince you that he believes that ME is a physical disease, and banned criticism of his tricky methods. He uses hypnotic techniques, and crude coaching and self hypnosis (the Stop techniques) taken to the level of obedience training.
some one asked me to "back up " that people cure themselves of aids and cancer. thats just silly. theres probobly loads of testemonials about people getting better from all kindas of illness on line and youtube.... see for yourself. if they can do it with what ever path they chose then why should something like Lp or other ways help people get better from me.i am bored of these petty confrontations. just try LP if you want to get better or dont. but why the sillness?
ps, i also wish to share this in the mos loving way....
basically people with ME and or CFS need to sort their lives out, get a grip and take responsiblity, same as people who have cancer and other illness.... no one else is gonna do it for you. stop trying to get others to change or institutions to recognise that you are realy ill, stop feeling sorry for yourself. then youll get better. youll find a way cos you know what there i always a way.
i am so shocked that after eight months people are still being rude, swearing, angry and bitter towards me, i bless all those with love. i am just aware here that people who are saying that lp and other cures are not working obviously arent ready to change, i mean what a resitance lol. why hang on to the illness, what ever it is. so many people are getting better, why not you. people cure them selves of all kinds of illness, cancer, aids, hormonal illness, all kinds. why not ME
@OhSleeperAwake - We have not noticed any swearing or anger towards you. But you have rather exposed the blinkered Lightning Process groupthink that claims that all people with a serious organic disabling disease need to do is "be ready to change". The Advertising Stamdards Authority have ruled against Lightning Process advertising that was making unproven 'curative' claims for Lightning. A great many very sick people with ME have been made more ill by doing Lightning Process.
@OhSleeperAwake - with respect OhSleeperAwake, its you yourself who have been rude, offensive, and insulting towards people with disabling illnesses, in your Comment below of 11 months ago. Many who criticise Lightning are very experienced in mindmethods and hypnosis and are well placed to evaluate Lightning. Whereas the majority who train to be Lightning Trainers are new to the personal growth/mindmethod world, tending to be easily swept along with newly discovered ideas and false “positivity”
@OhSleeperAwake. The Lightning Process (Trade Mark) was accredited with curing Esther Rantzen's daughter. See "Saved from a living death," Daily Mail 06 February 2007. However Emily Rantzen (Wilcox) stated in 2001, also in The Daily Mail that she was cured of ME. i.e. six years before, and that her body had healed itself with no intervention. How could it cure somebody who was already cured?
By default, anyone who 'cures' themselves of a neurological disease through altering their mental processes into a more positive state - is mentally ill, or cured from, mental illness by undergoing negative illness belief changes.
I am happy for you, you are 'cured' from your dysfunction, however on a logical basis (or disease diagnosis) you cannot have suffered from any form of neurological disease as you have no disabling on-going pathology.
@xmrvpositivedotcom i was very physically ill though. its june now and i am still better since last september. i never get that ME/CFS type illness now. i was aching and had such bad brain fog, coudnt swallow at the worst times. i know i will never get like that again. the mind and body are powerful and i beleive we can "magical" heal ourselves more than ever now. people cure themselves from cancer, are you saying thats a mental illness too?
@xmrvpositivedotcom if M.E /CFS is neuro logical then LP is even more likely to be effective as one of the main ways to use it is neurologically lol. dont think you really understand it. have you done the LP?
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Thank you for this video - it helps people to see through the slick hype and the intensive sales spin that surrounds the Lightning Process. The patient charities 'the ME Association', 'Invest in ME', the childrens ME charity 'The Tymes Trust' and the 25% Group patient charity too have grave concerns about Lightning Process. Too many ME patients have become even more ill after doing Lightning Process and doing what the Lightning Trainers told them to.
VivianeOfAvalon 2 months ago
There is a blind beggar who begs at the subway station near me, can they cure him?
r5t9m0 10 months ago
Some of those who debunk Lightning have years experience of the techniques that Lighting uses. That's how we know Phil Parker's Lightning is a basic personal growth coaching course. Phil Parker has redefined organic ME as stress, used double speak to convince you that he believes that ME is a physical disease, and banned criticism of his tricky methods. He uses hypnotic techniques, and crude coaching and self hypnosis (the Stop techniques) taken to the level of obedience training.
VivianeOfAvalon 1 year ago
morris goodman the miracle man..... if he can do it anyone can.......
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
@OhSleeperAwake there is a cure for EVERY illness!
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
some one asked me to "back up " that people cure themselves of aids and cancer. thats just silly. theres probobly loads of testemonials about people getting better from all kindas of illness on line and youtube.... see for yourself. if they can do it with what ever path they chose then why should something like Lp or other ways help people get better from me.i am bored of these petty confrontations. just try LP if you want to get better or dont. but why the sillness?
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
ps, i also wish to share this in the mos loving way....
basically people with ME and or CFS need to sort their lives out, get a grip and take responsiblity, same as people who have cancer and other illness.... no one else is gonna do it for you. stop trying to get others to change or institutions to recognise that you are realy ill, stop feeling sorry for yourself. then youll get better. youll find a way cos you know what there i always a way.
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
i am so shocked that after eight months people are still being rude, swearing, angry and bitter towards me, i bless all those with love. i am just aware here that people who are saying that lp and other cures are not working obviously arent ready to change, i mean what a resitance lol. why hang on to the illness, what ever it is. so many people are getting better, why not you. people cure them selves of all kinds of illness, cancer, aids, hormonal illness, all kinds. why not ME
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
@OhSleeperAwake People cure themselves of cancer and AIDS? That's quite some statement. Could you back that up?
GBCTwo 1 year ago
@OhSleeperAwake - We have not noticed any swearing or anger towards you. But you have rather exposed the blinkered Lightning Process groupthink that claims that all people with a serious organic disabling disease need to do is "be ready to change". The Advertising Stamdards Authority have ruled against Lightning Process advertising that was making unproven 'curative' claims for Lightning. A great many very sick people with ME have been made more ill by doing Lightning Process.
VivianeOfAvalon 9 months ago
@OhSleeperAwake - with respect OhSleeperAwake, its you yourself who have been rude, offensive, and insulting towards people with disabling illnesses, in your Comment below of 11 months ago. Many who criticise Lightning are very experienced in mindmethods and hypnosis and are well placed to evaluate Lightning. Whereas the majority who train to be Lightning Trainers are new to the personal growth/mindmethod world, tending to be easily swept along with newly discovered ideas and false “positivity”
VivianeOfAvalon 9 months ago
because you NEVER had it!! you fucking OIK!!
PostHuman2113 2 years ago
@PostHuman2113 what did i have then? no need for the swearing. that kind of anger and resistance to change sounds like "mental illness/ blocks"
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
if you say all this then why did it work for me and how was i totally cured!
OhSleeperAwake 2 years ago
@OhSleeperAwake. The Lightning Process (Trade Mark) was accredited with curing Esther Rantzen's daughter. See "Saved from a living death," Daily Mail 06 February 2007. However Emily Rantzen (Wilcox) stated in 2001, also in The Daily Mail that she was cured of ME. i.e. six years before, and that her body had healed itself with no intervention. How could it cure somebody who was already cured?
ShowalterdontlikeME 2 years ago
@OhSleeperAwake
By default, anyone who 'cures' themselves of a neurological disease through altering their mental processes into a more positive state - is mentally ill, or cured from, mental illness by undergoing negative illness belief changes.
I am happy for you, you are 'cured' from your dysfunction, however on a logical basis (or disease diagnosis) you cannot have suffered from any form of neurological disease as you have no disabling on-going pathology.
xmrvpositivedotcom 1 year ago
@xmrvpositivedotcom i was very physically ill though. its june now and i am still better since last september. i never get that ME/CFS type illness now. i was aching and had such bad brain fog, coudnt swallow at the worst times. i know i will never get like that again. the mind and body are powerful and i beleive we can "magical" heal ourselves more than ever now. people cure themselves from cancer, are you saying thats a mental illness too?
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago
@xmrvpositivedotcom if M.E /CFS is neuro logical then LP is even more likely to be effective as one of the main ways to use it is neurologically lol. dont think you really understand it. have you done the LP?
OhSleeperAwake 1 year ago