Each soul is potentially divine. The goal is to manifest this divinity within by controlling nature: external and internal. Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy--by one, or more, or all of these--and be free. This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.
Both the host and the comedian miss the point regarding babies being born atheists; actually, they both make the point (that babies are a-everything) without realising that was in fact the point of the argument they're making fun of. Yes, babies have no belief in evolution, etc. The point is only religious belief is actually projected onto babies. That's why it's relevant to point out everyone is born atheist, but not that everyone is born without knowing how to do, for example, math.
@drinkmoresoda No, I didn't imply any relationship between the two. I just granted the point that babies are born without knowing about evolution, but that it's different from being born without a belief.
I believe god but I don't believe in religion. If anyone asks, I'm atheist just to get the religious nuts off my back. I don't believe in god's miracles, or that lack of beliefs or different beliefs will land you in hell. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. I also believe in evolution. Kinda counterproductive I know. Basically I believe gods role is the ruler of heaven. And that's it. God does nothing else.
There are three models of Government competing for world domination:
(1) Communist / atheist: where government officials decide and dole out your temporal rights if any
(2) Sharia Law: where the Qu'ron governs
(3) Judeo-Christian model, where God grants our rights & liberties and THEREFORE they are unalienable, power resides in we the people, we are sovereign and the government is our servant.
i jus wanna know who wrote the bible then? did one man write the bible? did a group of dudes come together and say to themselves...lets write a fucking epic, right now! i wanna know...
id say ur religion is ur religion...dat makes a person theres alot of religions and alot of people are different....Either way we all would find out wen we die huh?...
Marrys a liar and got the shit fucked out of her and then their came jesus and she didn't want to be called a slut so she said she was a virgin and jesus was fucked up in the head and didnt do anything and was a false profit like chirs angel
wow, i really really wish people can open there eyes and take out that pathetic excuse of religion which is called faith from it so they can see the truth that Christianity is a fairytale that people believe so they are not afraid to die.
Good luck...you could be the most populated state for megachurches. I am in SC also a very pious state. I wonder why people do not question the doctrine more? As Swift said; "We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another."
You go John... keep your view ...I am a Black Athiest also...religion was our great downfall during slavery...Hopefully our community will get a clue sometime.
I always tell people that I'm a minority minority. Not sure what part of the country you're from, but I live in Texas. In the south, of all places, black people cling to religion and I'll never get it. They also celebrate Juneteenth.
As a person who is also part black, YOU sadden me. How could you be so ignorant to be saddened by a black person just because they don't believe the same thing as you do? Really, I wanna know...
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Atheists are doing Satan's work by trying to deceive people. Repent before it is too late for you. Saul repented and became Paul. You can accept Christ as well. Don't be a child of Satan. Satan loves atheists.
I'm doing Satan's work? LULZ. YOU ARE TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT. Atheism is not only the knowlege that there is no god, but there is no Satan either. You're just an ignorant bastard who needs to read up on something before he argues about it.
Lost? No. I'm pretty sure I found my way out of the wet paper bag of religion by realising that there's in no way a "God." And, I've heard this many times before. What exactly am I lost from? Hm?
you are an idiot. atheists are doing ANYONES work, because they dont believe in Satan either...or did you really not get that....
how do you people actually think atheists are satanists... its not too late for you to change your ways!! dont waste your life in church...go to a bar!
I warned you my fellow Christians, THE END IS COMING! Depart now from all form of unrighteousness such as fornication, homosexuality, pornography, watching violent entertainment, drug abuse, smoking, gambling, cursing, bullying, revelries, pursuit of money and idolatry etc. LEST YOU BE FOUND NOT WORTHY TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
A volcano situated in the US will erupt not far from now, when this happen you will know that this warning is from God.
ur so fucking dumb dude, god isnt even real... and its not a choice, because there are a ton of people who are gay and dont come out of closet. There are also people who hate being homosexual and wish they were straight. And if you really belive that you can choose it then you must be bisexual, because i know for a fact that I'm not into guys, and i wouldnt even if i wanted to be..
Lol why are u cursing over it lmfao. You werent born liking gays u moron and u werent born liking both hence u pick ur sexuality when u get older...Im Straight not bi.
How about you choose to be bi then? Try it, I bet you can't. You can NOT control what you are turned on by. You can lie about it, but we can watch your brain light up on a scan and see what floats your boat.
yeah but thats the way life is, " you dont know " give a way to prove god is just a theory, then you got a fact, but you cant say that and properly back it up, you can theorize but not tell fact. To the gay thing, as a lesbian girl 9 out of 10 will say they do it cuz guys are scum or its fun but most guys will say they are born like that so there you go again you cant prove anything, so just tell your opinion. dont throw it down people neck along with curse words ( cursing shows your ignorance )
That's like saying you can change your eye color. Or perhaps your natural hair color would be a better example, you can cover it up but you can't change what it is naturally. It's genetics, you can no more change what you yourself find attractive, dark hair or light, green eyes or brown, etc. As I recall they've done brain scans or something along those lines and the brain of a gay person is slightly different, the chemicals are slightly different, or something along those lines.
the Logic of man has limits. Not one person in the history of the Earth has ever lived life based purely on logic. That is what machines do. Atheists might point to our belief in god and call it illogical but they make illogical decisions every single day of their lives. Some things are beyond the logic of man.
As hard as I try to be healthy I still do unhealthy things every day. Does this mean I should not identify and try to avoid unhealthy lifestyles or habits? Is it all or nothing?
no, not at all. All i wish to promote is peace and understanding. Im trying to say that is better than riddicule and hate. I wanted to point out that logic important but because people use different logic we should respect each other. I have nothing against atheists i respect their views. But i disagree, i don't mock and hate.
For sure! as long as its not malicious its all good. For example im christian but i love the movie dogma and that mocks christians like crazy, but its funny and i don't feel like hatred is behind it. A lot of people take themselves to seriously.
im more talking of the people who automatically assume your an idiot if you are religious. "you beleive in God your a f*cking idiot" to me its just as stupid as "you don't worship my God, your going to hell"
isn't that just a fancy way of saying that you think your right and someone else is wrong? Logic is a tool used to find truth...people can still arive at different conclusion, logical aspirations aside.
No I'm not saying that. I simply said that there exist only one type of logic. And diffrent people will arrive at diffrent conclusions because they are not all at the same level of logic. I never said anythign about where I am at. So I don't see how you got that I was saying I was right. If two people arrive at two diffrent conclusions one person is more wrong and the other is more correct.
In a wide sense, logic is defined as you do. In a narrow sense, logic is defined as a way of making conclussions (as asurion43 says). So, BOTH are right.
Don't forget that "almost every discussion comes from a wrong definition".
Logic can indeed be defined that way, but all logic will still range from poor logic to the most correct logic, that being the science of logic.
His point was that people have diffrent logics was entertaining the idea that logic is subjective, when true logic is really the very opposite.
The method of logic may vary, but if it's correct it should yield the same result as another method that is a equally valid logical method. So diffrent results should not be reached, as he said.
¿Isn't it funny? Many people have false premises, make bad inferences and get wrong conclusions. Then, they believe that is the "truth" and live under that. ¡That's really crazy! It could be funny if not pathetic
"The problem with believing irrational think is that anything is possible"
Greeting from México (atchiisss)... and don't say "Bless you" as I'm agnostic xD
when people use logic, without prejudice and preconceptions, conclusions tend to correlate. disagreements almost always come from one or more parties having made up their mind ahead of time
I never intended to imply that they were perfect or skeptical. I was replying to someone who said:
"Most of the christians I have known all my life are one or more of the following: lyers, child molesters, protecters of child molesters, drug adicts, drug dealers, swindlers, theives etc."
In my instance of watching this video, an advertisement for McCain/Palin ran next to the video. Not a very Republican message, methinks. I find this funny.
Gosh you're supporting depriving people from money they need to feed their families that they're giving to the collection plate of the church. Nice and Godly.
Most of the christians I have known all my life are one or more of the following: lyers, child molesters, protecters of child molesters, drug adicts, drug dealers, swindlers, theives etc.
A few things. You may be blinded by wanting to believe the best in people.
You really may have great luck.
More likely, anybody can be nice, even an abortion clinic doctor killer. Religious people definitely sound beautiful, loving, etc... as long as they dont feel threatened by your disbelief in their GOD.
I know a christian who is as you described normally, but she heard once that Obama was a muslim and turned suspicious and didnt care anything else about him. She was opposite then.
I also was raised catholic, went to catacism and all. I was a born skeptic and science/math buff and I fought all my childhood with the conflict of only being told god is real, and wanting to believe that while finding it hard to. Then I justified that I cant believe it in early teens. Didnt fully break free til i was able to leave home. I am a very observant person.
One thing I observed is that all the christians around me were hypocrites. They were also loving as long as you agreed with them.
It is hardly rational or scientific to take your personal experiences, anecdotal evidence, and judge an entire group of people.
Some of my dearest friends are Christians and they know that I disagree strongly with them but they remain loving and kind. I'm sorry you've been unlucky but chances are who you are factors in to your results as well.
kitty, your friends are hypocrites who dont follow the teachings of the bible which tell you to be intolerant of disbelief in god. Even jesus promoted stoning which also isnt done today. I judge a whole people by the bible they follow. You can pick and choose the passages as much as the christians but you being an atheist doesnt make it any more right to do so.
Also, I never made my statement as anything but to say he had good luck, because my anecdotal evidence was much different.
I already disagree with them strongly on their believing the bible at all, now I'm going to concern myself with whether or not they're consistent in their following of it?
I'd rather just except that I find them batshit crazy where theology is concerned and then get on with enjoying their wonderful friendship.
Please note that you are shifting from your initial argument regarding their behavior into a critique of their adherence to their professed faith.
I said nothing about hating them as people and said I have a coworker that is crazy, but not that we stopped getting along
Thats not the point. You are on a tangent. I was just saying them being nice has nothing to do with them being good or bad. They are always good until asked by a person representing god to be bad. Think patriotism and how normally good people are willing to kill blindly in the name of security because their president says so. Americans are taught to worship that too sadly
basically, be as friendly as you want, be as trusting as you want, but the first person responding to the OP of this particular topic made a needless statement about how his friends are good people, as if that invalidates everything the OP said.
It should matter to you how faithful they are to their religion only if something you do goes against it.
Be lucky they are such hypocrites. Not all are so lucky.
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I truly feel sorry for Athiests, honestly. They have not felt the overwhelming love and inner peace that God can fullfill, and they feel empty inside.
i feel overwhelming love and inner peace, i'm religious, it sometimes makes me want to fly planes into building, but i'll have to wait for that special message from god before i do that.
You're supporting these attacks beebobox. More so, you're supporting ANY other act of OVER-REACTION caused by, I dare, fanatic religious nuts; you're a religious nut.
So you know better than we do how we feel eh? I guess that is the kind of conceit that also allows you to know the nature of the universe better the astronomists, the age of the earth better than the geologists, history better than the historian.
Maybe I feel empty because I'm not full of shit. :) Sorry, couldn't resist.
Great show, Dara O'Briain is another comedian who aside from being really funny does some good stuff on religion from his atheist viewpoint, part five of his live at the theatre royal has it, it's up on youtube at the moment.
Lewis Black. When I went looking for the clips though I found plenty where he discusses the bible but I can't find him actually holding it? I hope I wasn't wrong about that. Either way, worth checking out. Just search Lewis Black Bible or Lewis Black Religion and you'll get an earful.
is this a new video, I haven't seen your videos in a while, well I like how you analyze people's views and critisize without trying to insult the majority.
I had a local radio show some years back where I was so unfortunate to air (so to speak) my atheist views. I was called in to the manager for a real talking to. I left by my own a month later.
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something i've realised recently: my interest in christian-bashing is exactly parallel with my absence of meaning of life. what think you to that infidelguy?
pringles are tasty but not as fulfilling as knowing why we're here though, right? the point I was trying to make is I spend so much time bashing christians for their horrendously flawed beliefs, but really that simply demonstrates my inner want to find meaning in life, something which currently cannot be answered. What's my REAL motivation for bashing religion? I think it's poking fun at people's beliefs simply because I lack beliefs that answer similar questions. So every time I do I show that.
You dont find their beliefs to be absolutly fucken FUNNY????? I love a good laugh.
When some of these christians respond it can be one of the best laughs you can ever get in life. Thats one reason for 'bashing' christians. The other is to help them see reality and help protect our futures.
:)
(flying horses, ascending god men....hahahahaha) wicked!
Basically we don't know how life started and how the universe started, or what 'point' there is to life. Laughin at religion is fun, but when, like the infidelguy, and previously myself, we devote almost all of our time to arguing or trying to 'crack' religion on youtube, we're really only demonstrated our inner desire for peace/harmony/meaning whatever you want to call it. I think infidelguy is obsessed with religion-bashing EQUAL to his own existential crisis. Just a thought+wanted his opinion
I think that if you lived in Vermont with its intense winters you might be a bit obsessed with snow and ice and cold.
The Infidel Guy lives in America where religion is plentiful and has a way of covering everything around you. So, he is out shoveling the walk, salting the roads, and putting chains on the tires.
What jamezmon also doesn't realize (probably due to his narrow view) that I'm not bashing Christianity. I am simply analyzing the claims that believers 'of all stripes' make. Surely I can discuss and criticize the claims that people make? The error in his statement is equivalent to one stating that early Greek Mythologists must be obsessed with the idea that the Greek gods must have really existed since they argue in depth that they were indeed myths.
dont label me with having a narrow view infidelguy, i was making a suggestion and wanted to know if you thought it had any resonance with you, not trying to create an infallible piece of logic. My epiphany was related to me and i wanted to know what you thought of it. what klfly said makes more sense, i'm from the uk where religion isn't as horrendously prevalent, and i think that gives you guys more justification for devoting lots of time to religious criticism. nuff said. as you were!
Such an epiphany doesn't even resonate with my sensibilities. However, yes.. it is very common for folks in the UK to not quite have an understanding of how prevalent religious inculcation is here in the US. I recommend that you google video a number of BBC documentaries that discuss just how bad things are here in the US. Search for Evolution, Trial, Dover.
Each soul is potentially divine. The goal is to manifest this divinity within by controlling nature: external and internal. Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy--by one, or more, or all of these--and be free. This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.
Alkhemist10 11 months ago
Both the host and the comedian miss the point regarding babies being born atheists; actually, they both make the point (that babies are a-everything) without realising that was in fact the point of the argument they're making fun of. Yes, babies have no belief in evolution, etc. The point is only religious belief is actually projected onto babies. That's why it's relevant to point out everyone is born atheist, but not that everyone is born without knowing how to do, for example, math.
tml4873 1 year ago
@tml4873 are you suggesting atheism and evolution are coexistent? as if they only go hand in hand?
drinkmoresoda 11 months ago
@drinkmoresoda No, I didn't imply any relationship between the two. I just granted the point that babies are born without knowing about evolution, but that it's different from being born without a belief.
tml4873 11 months ago
I believe god but I don't believe in religion. If anyone asks, I'm atheist just to get the religious nuts off my back. I don't believe in god's miracles, or that lack of beliefs or different beliefs will land you in hell. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. I also believe in evolution. Kinda counterproductive I know. Basically I believe gods role is the ruler of heaven. And that's it. God does nothing else.
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check out the video "Pro gay atheists are stupid"..He makes some good points and he's an atheists
checkmwonderfulday 1 year ago
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There are three models of Government competing for world domination:
(1) Communist / atheist: where government officials decide and dole out your temporal rights if any
(2) Sharia Law: where the Qu'ron governs
(3) Judeo-Christian model, where God grants our rights & liberties and THEREFORE they are unalienable, power resides in we the people, we are sovereign and the government is our servant.
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i jus wanna know who wrote the bible then? did one man write the bible? did a group of dudes come together and say to themselves...lets write a fucking epic, right now! i wanna know...
syrensounds 1 year ago
google Doe's Account.
Yellowwatts 1 year ago
@Yellowwatts I've read it, it was so awesome and they're making money of it. -_-
BlazzingSaber 1 year ago
id say ur religion is ur religion...dat makes a person theres alot of religions and alot of people are different....Either way we all would find out wen we die huh?...
ortizta 2 years ago
@ortizta sorry you wont find out shit. you'll just be dead. thats it. im sorry
GBJ83 1 year ago
@GBJ83 I was starting to type something very similar to what you did before I saw your comment.
MrHambergator 1 year ago
its ok thanks
ortizta 1 year ago
Marrys a liar and got the shit fucked out of her and then their came jesus and she didn't want to be called a slut so she said she was a virgin and jesus was fucked up in the head and didnt do anything and was a false profit like chirs angel
doyler1994 2 years ago
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Warning to all Atheist
See Angels demons creatures beasts
Caught on Tape
click on my name
1skylimit 2 years ago
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"Does My Father Love Me?" - A look at how Atheists and Christians interpret the same evidence very differently. Watch it on my channel.
atheistfriends 2 years ago
wow, i really really wish people can open there eyes and take out that pathetic excuse of religion which is called faith from it so they can see the truth that Christianity is a fairytale that people believe so they are not afraid to die.
dumstine 2 years ago 33
god is love ,now scrafice your children and let people smash them against rocks...because they are blessed
Isuckatpaintball2 2 years ago 8
what?!
dareal1littlebb2 2 years ago
Good luck...you could be the most populated state for megachurches. I am in SC also a very pious state. I wonder why people do not question the doctrine more? As Swift said; "We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another."
acsarge 2 years ago
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acsarge 2 years ago
You go John... keep your view ...I am a Black Athiest also...religion was our great downfall during slavery...Hopefully our community will get a clue sometime.
acsarge 2 years ago 49
I always tell people that I'm a minority minority. Not sure what part of the country you're from, but I live in Texas. In the south, of all places, black people cling to religion and I'll never get it. They also celebrate Juneteenth.
jkl0031 2 years ago
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yea.... atheists only live in highly religious people the rest are normal people :/
Isuckatpaintball2 2 years ago
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A black atheist, as a person with part-African American blood, this saddens me.
zanesmith09 2 years ago
As a person who is also part black, YOU sadden me. How could you be so ignorant to be saddened by a black person just because they don't believe the same thing as you do? Really, I wanna know...
nigeroski 2 years ago
I feel sorry for you.
Poya6666 2 years ago
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Atheist? Please. The afterlife has recently been scientifically confirmed. The world will never be the same.
Look up Does Account.
rqualia1 2 years ago
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Atheists are doing Satan's work by trying to deceive people. Repent before it is too late for you. Saul repented and became Paul. You can accept Christ as well. Don't be a child of Satan. Satan loves atheists.
zanesmith09 2 years ago
Guess that makes you a Pucker.
DanielCriticalMX 2 years ago
I love Satan!
myp410up 2 years ago 2
you are a fukin retart
delaisla777 2 years ago
Child of Satan? I'm getting a DNA test before I accept THAT title...
pixelape99 2 years ago 3
Ha! I litterally lol'd.
Nelzevir 2 years ago
I'm doing Satan's work? LULZ. YOU ARE TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT. Atheism is not only the knowlege that there is no god, but there is no Satan either. You're just an ignorant bastard who needs to read up on something before he argues about it.
Viking21564 2 years ago
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You are just lost. A true Christian knows what I am talking about.
zanesmith09 2 years ago
Lost? No. I'm pretty sure I found my way out of the wet paper bag of religion by realising that there's in no way a "God." And, I've heard this many times before. What exactly am I lost from? Hm?
Viking21564 2 years ago 4
You're lost from blind faith and false hope.
InternetArgument 2 years ago 2
I have no faith and I have no hope.
Viking21564 2 years ago
Good. You don't need it. Better to know the thruth than to lie to yourself and be content and ignorant.
InternetArgument 2 years ago 5
Faith= Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
Faith = Gullibility.
^_^
Minisha 2 years ago 7
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Put you mouth where your faith is and click on my name and see the real before you are Dminished
1skylimit 2 years ago
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Have faith....Have Hope
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1skylimit 2 years ago
DIAF?
z3r0t0l3r4ns 2 years ago
Do us all a favor and fuck off.
InternetArgument 2 years ago
get out of here with that fear speech.
putthisonmytab 2 years ago
you are an idiot. atheists are doing ANYONES work, because they dont believe in Satan either...or did you really not get that....
how do you people actually think atheists are satanists... its not too late for you to change your ways!! dont waste your life in church...go to a bar!
iktpqmosh 2 years ago 3
how do you know satan loves atheists? does it say that in the bible? when was the last time you two spoke?
fdballer50 2 years ago 5
Bow to the Holy Areola
SmilingSkeptic 2 years ago
I thought this was "comic" as in comic book.
leeroynaggins 2 years ago
thanks god I m an atheist.
baklava4 2 years ago 2
No its really funny. Why shouldn't you be able to mock nonexistent things?
TheDoubtingThomas 2 years ago 2
you don't become an atheist, everyone is born atheists, some just get confused along the way.
TheKasch 2 years ago 11
...but the most are 'forced' to be 'believers' by being baptised after birth.
religion is simply stupid... however faith is very important.
utar88utar 2 years ago 3
lol. I liked that one
locozo 2 years ago
mocking man made things is perfectly fine.
pur3d3f3ncs 2 years ago 10
i can realate to the writing down ideas as the pop up because ill forget them later,and hes right,alot of mine i end finding stupid looking back.
mostly music though,not so often with lyrics.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
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I warned you my fellow Christians, THE END IS COMING! Depart now from all form of unrighteousness such as fornication, homosexuality, pornography, watching violent entertainment, drug abuse, smoking, gambling, cursing, bullying, revelries, pursuit of money and idolatry etc. LEST YOU BE FOUND NOT WORTHY TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
A volcano situated in the US will erupt not far from now, when this happen you will know that this warning is from God.
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conceil8 2 years ago
if homosexuality is bad why does god make them homosexual? dumb fuck
jokertwin1 2 years ago 4
yeah, and if murder is bad why did god allow us to make guns!
novemberwh1skey 2 years ago
i like that one xD
jokertwin1 2 years ago
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god dosnt make homosexuals...lol its ur choice if ur made into something u cant change it but u can change ur sexuality.
blizzared2 2 years ago
ur so fucking dumb dude, god isnt even real... and its not a choice, because there are a ton of people who are gay and dont come out of closet. There are also people who hate being homosexual and wish they were straight. And if you really belive that you can choose it then you must be bisexual, because i know for a fact that I'm not into guys, and i wouldnt even if i wanted to be..
jokertwin1 2 years ago 3
Lol why are u cursing over it lmfao. You werent born liking gays u moron and u werent born liking both hence u pick ur sexuality when u get older...Im Straight not bi.
blizzared2 2 years ago
if your straight how would you know?
jokertwin1 2 years ago
How about you choose to be bi then? Try it, I bet you can't. You can NOT control what you are turned on by. You can lie about it, but we can watch your brain light up on a scan and see what floats your boat.
Velox415 2 years ago 4
Yes he was.
JohnAngren 2 years ago
WOOH someones got sense. thank you
Holden599GTB 2 years ago
yeah but thats the way life is, " you dont know " give a way to prove god is just a theory, then you got a fact, but you cant say that and properly back it up, you can theorize but not tell fact. To the gay thing, as a lesbian girl 9 out of 10 will say they do it cuz guys are scum or its fun but most guys will say they are born like that so there you go again you cant prove anything, so just tell your opinion. dont throw it down people neck along with curse words ( cursing shows your ignorance )
Holden599GTB 2 years ago
That's like saying you can change your eye color. Or perhaps your natural hair color would be a better example, you can cover it up but you can't change what it is naturally. It's genetics, you can no more change what you yourself find attractive, dark hair or light, green eyes or brown, etc. As I recall they've done brain scans or something along those lines and the brain of a gay person is slightly different, the chemicals are slightly different, or something along those lines.
Velox415 2 years ago
not true
rook1123 2 years ago
gay brain
pixelape99 2 years ago
Maybe I've just heard too many talks about religion, atheism, and (/shutter) Castaneda, but I found this incredibly boring.
sandform 2 years ago
There are a few atheist comedians... Believers are comics by themselves.
Sorry for my English
enochalvarado 2 years ago 8
well said...well said...
wowitsmaurice 2 years ago 3
"There are a few atheist comedians... Believers are comics by themselves."
Unfortunately, it takes an atheist to see that :)
mindwis3 2 years ago 5
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nostradamus2001 2 years ago
Watch: atheist comedian on prayer in school.
It by the guy on the show.
Hamhark98 2 years ago
"Louis CK investigates the Catholic Church." --hilarious atheist comedy
People here should google "objectivism" and check out Ayn Rand's writings. Also great is optimal(dot)org
libertarianjury 2 years ago
... did he say he "knows homless guys that do pretty well"?
iamstrech1 3 years ago
I think he was referring to the fraudulent homeless people who use begging to make a living and are actually not homeless.
jezarius 3 years ago
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the Logic of man has limits. Not one person in the history of the Earth has ever lived life based purely on logic. That is what machines do. Atheists might point to our belief in god and call it illogical but they make illogical decisions every single day of their lives. Some things are beyond the logic of man.
urion43 3 years ago
As hard as I try to be healthy I still do unhealthy things every day. Does this mean I should not identify and try to avoid unhealthy lifestyles or habits? Is it all or nothing?
klfly 2 years ago
no, not at all. All i wish to promote is peace and understanding. Im trying to say that is better than riddicule and hate. I wanted to point out that logic important but because people use different logic we should respect each other. I have nothing against atheists i respect their views. But i disagree, i don't mock and hate.
urion43 2 years ago
As a comedian, I have to ask. Can't I mock affectionately? Can't I mock ideas and still love people who possess these ideas?
klfly 2 years ago
For sure! as long as its not malicious its all good. For example im christian but i love the movie dogma and that mocks christians like crazy, but its funny and i don't feel like hatred is behind it. A lot of people take themselves to seriously.
urion43 2 years ago
im more talking of the people who automatically assume your an idiot if you are religious. "you beleive in God your a f*cking idiot" to me its just as stupid as "you don't worship my God, your going to hell"
urion43 2 years ago
There is only one logic: Logic. It doesn't cater to opinions.
xXAkridXx 2 years ago
i agree. not sure what your getting at here though.
urion43 2 years ago
You said "because people use different logic"
My comment refuted it.
xXAkridXx 2 years ago
oh, ok right. But what i mean is that people use logic but ariive at diferent conclusions.
urion43 2 years ago
It would be more precise to say: "Not everyone aspires to perfect logic at the same level".
xXAkridXx 2 years ago
isn't that just a fancy way of saying that you think your right and someone else is wrong? Logic is a tool used to find truth...people can still arive at different conclusion, logical aspirations aside.
urion43 2 years ago
No I'm not saying that. I simply said that there exist only one type of logic. And diffrent people will arrive at diffrent conclusions because they are not all at the same level of logic. I never said anythign about where I am at. So I don't see how you got that I was saying I was right. If two people arrive at two diffrent conclusions one person is more wrong and the other is more correct.
xXAkridXx 2 years ago
my mistake then sorry. I guess a got a bit touchy. Good points though.
urion43 2 years ago
In a wide sense, logic is defined as you do. In a narrow sense, logic is defined as a way of making conclussions (as asurion43 says). So, BOTH are right.
Don't forget that "almost every discussion comes from a wrong definition".
enochalvarado 2 years ago
Logic can indeed be defined that way, but all logic will still range from poor logic to the most correct logic, that being the science of logic.
His point was that people have diffrent logics was entertaining the idea that logic is subjective, when true logic is really the very opposite.
The method of logic may vary, but if it's correct it should yield the same result as another method that is a equally valid logical method. So diffrent results should not be reached, as he said.
xXAkridXx 2 years ago
Yes, you are perfectly right.
¿Isn't it funny? Many people have false premises, make bad inferences and get wrong conclusions. Then, they believe that is the "truth" and live under that. ¡That's really crazy! It could be funny if not pathetic
"The problem with believing irrational think is that anything is possible"
Greeting from México (atchiisss)... and don't say "Bless you" as I'm agnostic xD
enochalvarado 2 years ago
when people use logic, without prejudice and preconceptions, conclusions tend to correlate. disagreements almost always come from one or more parties having made up their mind ahead of time
neomp5 2 years ago
LOL, I am joining the Church of Nipple IMMEDIATELY!!!
TomMSTie 3 years ago
"Beautiful"
"Kind"
"Loving"
I don't hear "Skeptical" Anywhere in there.
LordOmberus 3 years ago 3
I never intended to imply that they were perfect or skeptical. I was replying to someone who said:
"Most of the christians I have known all my life are one or more of the following: lyers, child molesters, protecters of child molesters, drug adicts, drug dealers, swindlers, theives etc."
klfly 3 years ago
In my instance of watching this video, an advertisement for McCain/Palin ran next to the video. Not a very Republican message, methinks. I find this funny.
rlrsk8r1 3 years ago
Hehe, I saw you on trading spaces or whatever, I feel for you man, that was painful to watch.
scienceminded 3 years ago
waking life was the catalyst for me. opened my mind to all sorts of philosophys. check it out people.
xxlimpyleg 3 years ago
that is a GREAT movie!
fretbuzz520y 3 years ago
Lol aren't you the guy who cried on wife swap?
Evolutionrunbackward 3 years ago
Gosh you're supporting depriving people from money they need to feed their families that they're giving to the collection plate of the church. Nice and Godly.
Tomsinnewyork 3 years ago
sell someone another life, take away this one
brandonshred1 3 years ago 3
*cough* irssi *cough*
mIRC costs to much. irssi is free :D, mIRC is not...
GegoXaren 3 years ago
Most of the christians I have known all my life are one or more of the following: lyers, child molesters, protecters of child molesters, drug adicts, drug dealers, swindlers, theives etc.
bimmjim 3 years ago 3
Sorry you've had such bad luck.
Most of the Christians I've known are beautiful, kind, loving people who I'm proud to call my friends and family.
I'm the atheist being interviewed in this clip.
tutuberoo 3 years ago
A few things. You may be blinded by wanting to believe the best in people.
You really may have great luck.
More likely, anybody can be nice, even an abortion clinic doctor killer. Religious people definitely sound beautiful, loving, etc... as long as they dont feel threatened by your disbelief in their GOD.
I know a christian who is as you described normally, but she heard once that Obama was a muslim and turned suspicious and didnt care anything else about him. She was opposite then.
waltermh111 3 years ago
I also was raised catholic, went to catacism and all. I was a born skeptic and science/math buff and I fought all my childhood with the conflict of only being told god is real, and wanting to believe that while finding it hard to. Then I justified that I cant believe it in early teens. Didnt fully break free til i was able to leave home. I am a very observant person.
One thing I observed is that all the christians around me were hypocrites. They were also loving as long as you agreed with them.
waltermh111 3 years ago 9
It is hardly rational or scientific to take your personal experiences, anecdotal evidence, and judge an entire group of people.
Some of my dearest friends are Christians and they know that I disagree strongly with them but they remain loving and kind. I'm sorry you've been unlucky but chances are who you are factors in to your results as well.
klfly 3 years ago
kitty, your friends are hypocrites who dont follow the teachings of the bible which tell you to be intolerant of disbelief in god. Even jesus promoted stoning which also isnt done today. I judge a whole people by the bible they follow. You can pick and choose the passages as much as the christians but you being an atheist doesnt make it any more right to do so.
Also, I never made my statement as anything but to say he had good luck, because my anecdotal evidence was much different.
waltermh111 3 years ago 2
I already disagree with them strongly on their believing the bible at all, now I'm going to concern myself with whether or not they're consistent in their following of it?
I'd rather just except that I find them batshit crazy where theology is concerned and then get on with enjoying their wonderful friendship.
Please note that you are shifting from your initial argument regarding their behavior into a critique of their adherence to their professed faith.
klfly 3 years ago
I said nothing about hating them as people and said I have a coworker that is crazy, but not that we stopped getting along
Thats not the point. You are on a tangent. I was just saying them being nice has nothing to do with them being good or bad. They are always good until asked by a person representing god to be bad. Think patriotism and how normally good people are willing to kill blindly in the name of security because their president says so. Americans are taught to worship that too sadly
waltermh111 3 years ago
Nor did I argue that you had hated them as people or as anything else for that matter.
You implied they were loving until disagreed with. I have loving relationships with many who know I disagree with them.
You also compared "them" to abortion clinic doctor killers.
Sorry you think I'm on a tangent. I'd say the feeling is mutual.
Ah well, this is going in circles so I'll step out now. Good chatting with you.
Sincerely.
klfly 3 years ago
basically, be as friendly as you want, be as trusting as you want, but the first person responding to the OP of this particular topic made a needless statement about how his friends are good people, as if that invalidates everything the OP said.
It should matter to you how faithful they are to their religion only if something you do goes against it.
Be lucky they are such hypocrites. Not all are so lucky.
waltermh111 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I truly feel sorry for Athiests, honestly. They have not felt the overwhelming love and inner peace that God can fullfill, and they feel empty inside.
samoussa84 3 years ago
i feel overwhelming love and inner peace, i'm religious, it sometimes makes me want to fly planes into building, but i'll have to wait for that special message from god before i do that.
/sarcasm off
beebobox 3 years ago 10
You're supporting these attacks beebobox. More so, you're supporting ANY other act of OVER-REACTION caused by, I dare, fanatic religious nuts; you're a religious nut.
Sarcasm off.
Tomsinnewyork 3 years ago
good one :)
beebobox 3 years ago
So you know better than we do how we feel eh? I guess that is the kind of conceit that also allows you to know the nature of the universe better the astronomists, the age of the earth better than the geologists, history better than the historian.
Maybe I feel empty because I'm not full of shit. :) Sorry, couldn't resist.
klfly 3 years ago 11
awesome!!!!
brboi16 3 years ago
YOU feel empty inside. Don't project your feelings onto others. Atheists/agnostics don't need a God to be happy. :D
TheGodMar 3 years ago 8
bee and fly win
MastaJJUnknown 3 years ago
Don't feel sorry for me. I don't need your pity. Maybe I should pity the fools who believe in myths.
marcluc1988 3 years ago
Interesting. You feel sorry for us because we value our life very preciously while not being tainted by self delusion or wishful thinking.
Fitplayer66 3 years ago 3
Great show, Dara O'Briain is another comedian who aside from being really funny does some good stuff on religion from his atheist viewpoint, part five of his live at the theatre royal has it, it's up on youtube at the moment.
Copperboom13 3 years ago
Good.
superfisto 3 years ago
do you ever broadcast live on stickam?
jumperchu 3 years ago
Whos the guy he mentions at the start with youtube vids and the bible?
iamleavingchina 3 years ago
Lewis Black. When I went looking for the clips though I found plenty where he discusses the bible but I can't find him actually holding it? I hope I wasn't wrong about that. Either way, worth checking out. Just search Lewis Black Bible or Lewis Black Religion and you'll get an earful.
klfly 3 years ago
Sad and so true infidelguy.
Rastelin 3 years ago
Oops, the remove and reply link are too close together.
Um yes.. I had to switch mics because that black one has a damaged diafragum'. :)
My Shure Beta has always been more trust worthy.
infidelguy 3 years ago
is this a new video, I haven't seen your videos in a while, well I like how you analyze people's views and critisize without trying to insult the majority.
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ooiuj11 3 years ago
I had a local radio show some years back where I was so unfortunate to air (so to speak) my atheist views. I was called in to the manager for a real talking to. I left by my own a month later.
Rastelin 3 years ago
Man.. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, in terrestrial markets we have to be very, very careful. Don't wanna lose advertisers or piss off the higher ups.
infidelguy 3 years ago
Cool interview/video. ★★★★★
Katalyzt
Katalyzt 3 years ago 2
infidelguy ftw
myguineapig 3 years ago 3
dont worry about the audio...i minimize the window and listen...just as if i was listening on the radio.
great episode! keep up the great work man!
johnnyzondo 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
something i've realised recently: my interest in christian-bashing is exactly parallel with my absence of meaning of life. what think you to that infidelguy?
jamezmon 3 years ago
My interest in Christian bashing is directly parallel to the absence of Pringles Chips in my empty Pringles Canister.
infidelguy 3 years ago
pringles are tasty but not as fulfilling as knowing why we're here though, right? the point I was trying to make is I spend so much time bashing christians for their horrendously flawed beliefs, but really that simply demonstrates my inner want to find meaning in life, something which currently cannot be answered. What's my REAL motivation for bashing religion? I think it's poking fun at people's beliefs simply because I lack beliefs that answer similar questions. So every time I do I show that.
jamezmon 3 years ago
You dont find their beliefs to be absolutly fucken FUNNY????? I love a good laugh.
When some of these christians respond it can be one of the best laughs you can ever get in life. Thats one reason for 'bashing' christians. The other is to help them see reality and help protect our futures.
:)
(flying horses, ascending god men....hahahahaha) wicked!
cjunk351 3 years ago 5
Basically we don't know how life started and how the universe started, or what 'point' there is to life. Laughin at religion is fun, but when, like the infidelguy, and previously myself, we devote almost all of our time to arguing or trying to 'crack' religion on youtube, we're really only demonstrated our inner desire for peace/harmony/meaning whatever you want to call it. I think infidelguy is obsessed with religion-bashing EQUAL to his own existential crisis. Just a thought+wanted his opinion
jamezmon 3 years ago
Jamezmon
I think that if you lived in Vermont with its intense winters you might be a bit obsessed with snow and ice and cold.
The Infidel Guy lives in America where religion is plentiful and has a way of covering everything around you. So, he is out shoveling the walk, salting the roads, and putting chains on the tires.
Thanks Infidel Guy, much appreciated.
klfly 3 years ago
Thanks, klfly,
What jamezmon also doesn't realize (probably due to his narrow view) that I'm not bashing Christianity. I am simply analyzing the claims that believers 'of all stripes' make. Surely I can discuss and criticize the claims that people make? The error in his statement is equivalent to one stating that early Greek Mythologists must be obsessed with the idea that the Greek gods must have really existed since they argue in depth that they were indeed myths.
infidelguy 3 years ago
dont label me with having a narrow view infidelguy, i was making a suggestion and wanted to know if you thought it had any resonance with you, not trying to create an infallible piece of logic. My epiphany was related to me and i wanted to know what you thought of it. what klfly said makes more sense, i'm from the uk where religion isn't as horrendously prevalent, and i think that gives you guys more justification for devoting lots of time to religious criticism. nuff said. as you were!
jamezmon 3 years ago 2
Such an epiphany doesn't even resonate with my sensibilities. However, yes.. it is very common for folks in the UK to not quite have an understanding of how prevalent religious inculcation is here in the US. I recommend that you google video a number of BBC documentaries that discuss just how bad things are here in the US. Search for Evolution, Trial, Dover.
infidelguy 3 years ago
kewl
donotfeedthetroll 3 years ago