Obama -3 Minute Marxist

[Esoparagon]

SHARED SACRIFICE!

[SamtheMan0728]

The idea of unity has nothing to do communism......that was an ideal of the founding fathers...wait.....MAYBE THEY WHERE COMMUNIST BEFORE COMMUNISM!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!

[gene15644a]

While Obama chatters about "common effort" he practices Corporate welfare, enriching American elites at the expense of everyone else and "living large" with large retinues, expensive nights on the town and helping his political friends and patrons.

The difference between him and George Bush is their packaging, rhetoric and superficial attributes. Under the hood they're almost the same President.

[procommenter]

(PART ONE) THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES: 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity. 3. Unite humanity with a living new language. 4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason. 5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

[procommenter]

(PART TWO) 8. Balance personal rights with social duties. 9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite. 10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature

[procommenter]

The swine flu "vaccine" has 25,000 times more mercury than the accepted/presumed "safe" level.

[procommenter]

Kenyan Obama is a fascist.

[montanaangel64]

Why doesn't HE make a sacrifice?

Turn the heat down in the whit house

Stop hosting Wednesday night parties

Didn't need a NEW multi Million Car-the other was just fine.

He spent more than the $170 million in private funds for his Inauguration

Don't fly in Special PIZZA makers to the White House!

What a hypocrite, What a Liar, What a disgrace he is!

For the "First Time in my adult life, I'm ashamed to be an American" Take that Michelle !

[elijah5791]

I really dislike this man!

[procommenter]

Marxism, Owenism, socialism, Nazism, fascism, communalism, communism, Stalinism, Leninism, corporatism, nannyism etc., are variations of collectivism which elevates the super-State as the know-all/be-all in the lives of Men; whereat the collective trump the individual; whereat the "people" own everything.

[procommenter]

I meant: "trumps."

The large number of Central Florida's hard freezes since the 1980's have driven the commercial citrus industry south.

[pulsatingremedy]

Marxism and communism elevate super-state?

In both Marxism and communism there is no state. Please do your research.

[procommenter]

U.S.S.R. = Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

A republic is a state.

[procommenter]

U.S.S.R. = Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

A republic is a state.

[pulsatingremedy]

Yes but communism is stateless society.

So the USSR was not communist.

[procommenter]

Every State of the former Warsaw Pact claimed to follow the teachings of Marx.

[pulsatingremedy]

I claim to be a purple unicorn.

It's not about what they said or claimed, it is about what they did.

Also the teachings of Marx is very vague. But if you mean communism, please note that communism is a stateless society.

[cunmanuta]

You sir are an idiot.

Communism is a CLASSLESS society, NOT a "stateless" one.

Get your facts straight before you try to straighten someone else out!

[pulsatingremedy]

A classless stateless society.

[pulsatingremedy]

At least that's how Marx described it.

[sgtkpf]

Does it really matter? Calling Obama a Communist or Marxist by the generally accepted definitions fit perfectly. To argue semantics when we have a truly dangerous man pushing Stalinist policies in the White House seems like a collasal waste of time to me. Further, Communism is not Stateless. It calls for ownership of the means of production by the Government. How can a non-State even have a Government to control the means of production. I believe you are thinking of Socialism.

[pulsatingremedy]

He's neither a communist nor a Marxist.

I think he applies lots of the stuff that Keynes said, and not what Marx said.

"Communism is not Stateless. It calls for ownership of the means of production by the Government"

Wrong.

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy Right! What a joke. You need to study communism buddy. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[pulsatingremedy]

@cunmanuta

I will watch fox news a lot so I can be just as smart as you!

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy I will watch cnn a lot so I can be just as smart as you. Haha. What a joke.

[pulsatingremedy]

@cunmanuta

Haha! Wait I don't watch cnn...

[sgtkpf]

Further Socialism is Contradictory in terms. How does a society with no state enforce who owns the Means of Production?

[pulsatingremedy]

What?

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy Exactly sweetheart. You can't even wrap your mind around the inconsistencies of your beloved theology!

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy Exactly sweetheart. You can't even wrap your mind around the inconsistencies of your beloved theology! Or you don't know your own theology too well.

[gene15644a]

@cunmanuta IDEALLY communism leads to a stateless society. In PRACTICE the "vanguard of the proletariat" tends to entrench and enrich itself at the expense of the working class. This is the sad experience of the USSR and other communist nations, leading to the grotesque family dynasties of North Korea and Cuba.

Obama is NOT a Marxist. He might be a Democratic Socialist but he does not speak in terms of Marxism. He does not behave like a marxist either.

[cunmanuta]

@gene15644a Ideally nothing! It leads to despotism. You may like to believe it leads to a stateless society, but you'd be seriously wrong.

Obama IS a marxist. Communism, socialism et al. ARE corrupt ideals that allow the powerful to abuse the weak for wealth and power.

But I'm sure you're just another clueless government school product who believes capitalism is evil and the only cure is marxism, socialism and communism.

Poor lad.

[gene15644a]

@cunmanuta When Chrysler approached Washington for a bailout in 1980 Communist party Presidential candidate Angela Davis called for Washington to nationalize Chrysler.

Obama bailed out both Chrysler and GM, giving them money and keeping them afloat. Obama kept BIg Labor and Big Business going in Detroit. That's not how Commies operate.

You need to shut off the Talk Radio and pick up a book. I voted for Reagan, twice. What were you doing in 1980?

[cunmanuta]

@gene15644a So he can't outright, just yet, be a full blown communist. Thank you for pointing that out. Is there anything else you'd like to share with us? Anything less obvious?

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy This proves your are clueless. Beyond a shadow of a doubt. The USSR wasn't communist. That just takes the cake.

[pulsatingremedy]

@cunmanuta

The USSR was stalinist. Left authoritarian.

Go watch your fox news.

[gene15644a]

@cunmanuta The people in the USSR said that they were "Socialist". They said that they were "building Communism". Of course I'm just talking to Russians who moved to America and reading books about the history of the USSR.

I'd have to listen to Limbaugh and Beck to get the REAL TRUTH. Right?

[cunmanuta]

@gene15644a Communism, simply put, is forced socialism. They're sister religions.

You can talk to whomever you want and read whatever you want, you're still wrong.

I'm sure you get your real truth from msnbc. You enjoy that sweetheart.

[gene15644a]

@cunmanuta Communism was an ideal "end state" under Marxist theology. The USSR never reached Communism, and probably never would have before they collapsed. We in the west called them "communist" but they referred to themselves as "Socialist".

I think that you're mistaken, and a bit doctrinare. You really need to shut off the Talk Radio and read a bit, and talk to people.

I'm a libertarian, not a liberal, "progressive" or conservative. I bet that you're a neo-Con, Cunmanuta.

[cunmanuta]

@gene15644a you would lose that bet sweetheart. Forcing socialism onto a country IS communism.

You should really read more and stop watching the MSM and talk to people.

[gene15644a]

@cunmanuta You sound like a neo-Con.

[johnnyupchuck]

@cunmanuta and you should quit watching fox news and consider leaving middle america once in a while

[pulsatingremedy]

@cunmanuta

Socialism is a transition phase between communism and capitalism. Communism is an oppression free society.

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy You're still not getting it and sadly never will. Has communism EVER been done 100% purely anywhere in history?

Once you figure out why, then maybe you'll get it.

[pulsatingremedy]

@cunmanuta

The Spanish anarchists were close, and so were the French communists. Then they were killed by capitalists.

So I just figured out, that capitalists kill communism. So I should kill capitalists? Is that what you are saying?

No thank you. I am a pacifist and I will not resort to violence, even if that means that some imperialist nation like the USA will kill me.

[cunmanuta]

@pulsatingremedy I'm not wasting my time with you anymore.

[pulsatingremedy]

@cunmanuta

You just replied to me again.

[iconologist]

Pretty clear — BO says we we "do not have a choice." This will be compulsory, and he intends to be the boss. Hmmm. And they call him a "liberal?" Just what kind of freedoms is he in favor of? I agree with EyeballMuscles: "who IS this guy? Is he trying to be the Fuehrer of the world? Why speak in Berlin, and not New York?" Pretty scary stuff.

[HowdyCallmeDaddy1]

This speech is his most telling as of yet. "The burdens of global citizenship"..will be required to serve..to do more" Another speech he talks about creating a "Civilian National Security Force..As powerful and welfuned as our Military" Thats 429,000,000,000,000.00 this year. He has his "global poverty act" which commits us American citizens to $845,000,000,000.00 Billion in a new global tax to pay for foreign countrys and THEIR citizens. Can you say GLOBAL SOCIALISM! Obama and a new world order