Mineta assumes the staffer was talking about a plane. Cheney knew it was a missile headed for the Pentagon. The staffer was asking whether they should abort and Darth Vader Cheney says, well you heard it.
At 9:21am on 911 an Air traffic controller named Scroggins called NEADS (in violation of protocal) & reported unconfirmed (and mistaken) information that FL11 was still in the air & headed towards DC.NEADS acted on this information (in violation of protocal) & scrambled Langley AFB sending the jets in the wrong direction at the very time the real hijacked aircraft (FL77) was approaching DC from the opposite direction.Allowing the Pentagon to be hit.Why was no one ever punished?
Americans are so stupid. Two building don't get hit by planes and then three fall down at nearly free fall speed. It's physically impossible! Newtons law on Falling Bodies just doesn't seem to apply to anything on Sep. 11. 2001...Dumb fucking Americans
Classifying all peoples of America as stupid for something that seems evident to you and most likely millions more and without ever asking them for their opinion is very foolish. For this we forgive you.
Ancient Chinese proverb says: The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise man is in his heart.
@icicicles I was being facetious. I know that proverb, and I also many Americans don't fall for the fake propaganda they are just handed to them. But I also know that Americans have an ideology to 'protect & serve' their country, which is installed at a young age. Although it's a good thing in part, it also destroys cognitive thought when dealing with government. America is a young country & has never had to deal with corrupt government like Europe has...after all we have a 2000 year head start!
@MrCrazyb23 But there is a subset to Americans Ideology. Some Americans (and insecure, jealous European types) believe in hating america and blaming it for every evil in the world.
This destroys their cognition, because when something like 911 happens, they are uncapable of anything other than their pre-determined conclusion.
BTW, Ive watched this video over and over. I dont hear Mineta say "I heard Cheney gove a stand down order."
@EdgemanLL2 "Do the orders still stand?" - This was NOT to shoot the plane down. Dick 'Chicken Hawk' Cheney made this very clear without Norman Mineta having to spell it out in this clip. Either way, NO plane hit the Pentagon. This is why there is NO video evidence, and what video evidence that could be shown is confiscated. This is a huge smoking gun and if the American government wants the public on their side...show a plane hitting the Pentagon. Simple. But they can't.
@MrCrazyb23 Im sorry, you must be a moron who doesnt understand English.
See, Mineta was asked what he knew about the SHOOTDOWN order, and Mineta confirms that this was when he became aware of the SHOOTDOWN order.
A huge smoking gun and if the 911 Moron movement wans the public on their side...show me Mineta actually saying "I heard Cheney say "stand down the fighters."
@EdgemanLL2 ok well aside form a standdown order what coudl they have been talking about?....
well they could be talking about a shootdown order ....thats true ....but he is describing the planes approach to the pentagon and he gets to 10 miles out and asks if the order stands .....why was the plane not shot down ......when he said clearly that they had planes in the air "ready to shoot down comercial aircraft"at the end of the vid
@kindnugz420 and if you think that the government would never stand down american planes from defending americans then think again
de classified transcripts and interviews with people on the line at the time clearly show LBJ recalling us fighters from a rescue/support mission to save the uss liberty which was under attack by Israeli boats and aircraft
"i want that goddamn boat to go to the bottom ...no help ....recall the wings"
@EdgemanLL2 you must not have understood what i said
if they had fighter planes in the air as they said
ready to shoot down the flight ...as they said .....
and an order had been givin .....which is the reason the one asked "does the order still stand"
so my question is
if an order had been givin ...and orders are followed...and nothing happened to the airliner when f-16's from Langley were poised to shoot it down ....what other order could have been givin other than a stand down order
@EdgemanLL2 and as far as you instantly jumping all in my face calling me sparky and stupid you should check that attitude and actually try to have a rational discussion about something instead of acting like a 12 yr old and flaming everyone who dosent agree with you
@kindnugz420 now your gonna say well this is all bullshit ..this stuff is old ...they would never do something like this now ...and before you freak out on another tirade think about this
the very same people who were running the show back in the 60's and 70's and 80's that made those plans and devised those ideas are still heavily involved in administrating our country ..many are still in various offices and cabinets
Dan Rather's live report of 2 men being arrested driving a van loaded with explosives en route to the George Washington Bridge says it all. Two Mossad agents, held for 9 weeks and released by order of Michael Chertoff, dual Israeli citizen and czar of DHS. The Zionist occupation of America will bring about our ultimate destruction as a free people.
no plane wreckage in shanksville, pa. no plane wreckage at the pentagon. footage of explosion at pentagon shows no plane. bush got caught lying about 9/11 saying that he saw the first plane hit on tv and thought it was just a 'terrible pilot'. said he was waiting to outside the class room 'and the tv was OBVIOUSLY on' because you know how there are tvs on in the hallways of most elementary schools. wtc buiding 7 collapsed in the same controlled demolition style as 1&2 even tho no plane hit.
Hey,how can they be tracking FL77 50 miles out when according to the official story they didn't even know about it until after it crashed?Of course,between 2001 & 2004 they did know about it (FL175 too) & scrambled fighters in time to stop both,but they ended up out over the Atlantic instead (2 sets from 2 different bases no less!).Of course,according to the 1st official story no fighters were scrambled at all until after the Pentagon was struck.Changing story=LIE !
To all of you debunkers if there was a LEGIT investigation don't any of you sheeple realise THIS ALONE would be justification in bringing a trial to Dick Cheney. This is a confirmed witness account of that day and along with the PERSON that Mineta is talking about there's no question of Cheney's guilt. There are people in prison right now that are there because multiple witness accounts. What the hell do you sheeple want? Video footage or an admition of guilt from Dickie C?
@JZJYRWO What are you talking about? If your wanting to know why Paul is running with these clowns you have to listen to his explanation for doing so(exposure etc.) If that isn't the reason you need to pull your head out of your as* and read the explanation I've written on this page again..
"My motto is 'show me evidence on an inside job, and Ill believe you.'"
Really???
Google: "Israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world" ; "Solving 9/11 - The deception that changed the world" ; "Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America"; "Dual Citizen ship - Loyal to whom?"
On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov did 9/11" AND "Former CIA Officer - Israel controls US gov't"
You have to LOOK at the evidence first, SUCKER, which takes balls you DON'T have.
@npsiebe1 You are loling at reycool because he's claiming 50% of the infantry is made up of private security firms who deploy their employees into combat situation under the command of the U.S. Military. You even called him inbred. You are actually quite wrong, but to be fair, so is he. Since the war in the east has lost popularity and less people actually join the military proper, the troops are made up of well over 50% privately owned resources. You fucking dickhead.
@blackjerryboymetal Two Muslims work for the local paper here. They are dead against blowing themselves. up. They enjoy the capatilistic lifestyle too much. You sepratist generalist idiot.
"During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??" - Norman Mineta testimony
Or the order could have been to not shoot it down, in the hope it would change course or not turn out to be hijacked.
Or perhaps it wasn't as much an inside job like you conspiracy theorists like to say, but rather a planned response. The long term game. Faking a terrorist attack is not worth it, but in it's event, if there is a successful terrorist attack, accept the damage and play the cards in your favour. Using the hand dealt, they were able to garner support for the Iraq invasion.
@hellofraaance That's still a conspiracy theory man. And even if the U.S. govt's only crime is complicity, it still allowed it's own citizens to die to further an agenda not known to those citizens. No matter which way you look at it, a lot of people NEED to be hung.
The Operation Centre is not the sort of place you'd find the Vice president. Yet VP Cheney happened to be at the Centre t the exact time on the exact date. A strong inference may be darwn is that he there to ensure the passage of the flight which was intended to hit the Pentagon !
@SisyphusTwo Well, given that it was the PRESIDENTIAL emer-ops-center, then yes, it is exactly the place to find the leadership of the executive branch in an emergency.
Jesus. Do you people ever give 1 second's thought to anything before you say it?
Darth Cheney was ALREADY in the PEOC when Mineta arrived, meaning Cheny is a LIAR. What is Darth hiding?
Hey Edge...you're such a pro at this 9/11 stuff, I mean you've been trolling these sites for years. Let's assume total U.S. government innocence for a moment. Is there any chance that Israel was involved in pulling off the attacks knowing it would incite the full scale obliteration of their Arab enemies? Makes sense, does it not?
@CRschralper Mineta has confirmed that he wasnt in the PEOC until WELL AFTER the WH was evac'd. Meaning he AND Cheney got there approximately 9:50-10:00. Which is consistent with the testimony.
Israel did it? So its all the Joooz fault, right Adolf? LOLOLOL.
Go iron your brown shirt, bitch. The little, square moustache needs work too. Maybe once you fully pass puberty?
Mineta confirmed when he entered NO LATER than 9:15-9:20, Cheney was there & the "object" was on approach. U LIE.
Dr. Alan Sabrosky is the former director of studies for the U.S. Army War college & states he's 100% sure 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Who has more respect & credibility, him...or your stupid ass??
We know Edge, you DESPISE Arabs & are pro-ZIONIST all the way. So were you jumping for joy when ISREAL MASSACRED 20 people in their latest show of inhuman psycopathy??
@NaziSchralper Norm admits, that he was never really sure of the time. But if you watch the video (its the top of the list, on the right side of this page) "Mineta and the secret orders of Cheney" Mineta confirms that he didnt even get to the white house until AFTER it was evacuated (0945). And he first had to be briefed. And then after the briefing it was another, approx 5 mins before he arrived at the PEOC.
Cont) We know. CRs, that youre an america hating traitor to humanity who sides with terrorists who killed 3k people on 911.
Admit it. The last time you got wood was when you saw planes slamming into buildings. Thats why youre so grateful to Alqaeda for doing it. People jumping to their death is your viagra.
Ben Arnold was offered a commission in the Brit navy for his treason. What has Alqaeda offered you? Or is your treason voluntary?
We know you're an Arab hating zionist boot licker, trolling these for how many years now?? Wish I could say "good effort" but...YOU FAILED. The jig is up, the goose is loose, the world KNOWS that ISRAEL & their deception machine the MOSSAD helped plan/execute 9/11 & here you are still selling transparent tales about Muslim extremists who DIDN'T do 9/11 or MASSACRE 20 UNARMED volunteers on that Gaza flotilla did they EDGE??? How many boxes of wine did you put back after that one?
How many lies do you tell in one day?? Mineta arrived AS the WH was evacuatING, not evacuatED, because the second tower had JUST been hit, so it's like 9:05-9:15, he heads inside, talks to R. Clarke for 4-5min, then secret service lead him to the PEOC BEFORE the Pentagon strike, a scene he describes in detail.
Once again, who is in a better position to make an informed opinion about 9/11, Dr. Alan Sabrosky from the U.S. Army War College or "EdgemanLL2" from dipshit Iowa??
The WH evacuation was 9:45. And as Mineta confirms (the video I referenced you to) he says he was passing the OEOB, watching people evacuate from there, and the WH as he drove up. He remarked to this drive (paraphrased) "whats wrong with this picture. Everyone else is leaving, and we are going in?"
Which means he wasnt even inside the WH doors before 9:45.
Cry for me some more bitch! Crying Kook is my favorite sound. HAHAHAHA
So then Mineta's entire testimony about the "plane coming into the Pentagon"...50mi, 30mi, 10mi. out was all just fantasy & he was taking a break for "story time"?
Look at your dog, then look in the mirror. $3 if you can tell me who is smarter?
@CRshill "Once again, I believe Alan Sabrosky, because he worked for the US Govt. I love suxing govt cock! Govt never lies! Im a goddamn moron govt shill from Iowa!"
Too funny...you've been cheerleading the government bullshit for years but now when someone in the same gov., even in the military no less, challenges those lies, you're stuck like an idiot with your head spinning. So which is it spaz, who should you believe...the criminal Bush admin. & their Zionist handlers or Sabrosky? Go listen to the 7 part interview - "Alan Sabrosky knows Israel - Rogue US gov. did 9/11" then come back & try and refute it pussy.
Wait, hasn't this been YOUR motto for the last 10yrs?? The gov. said it MUST have been 19 rogue Arabs so there is NO WAY any other group was invovled!! LMAO.
On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov. did 9/11" - Either refute it or just keep on sputtering insults and sentence fragments.
I agree with the video summary's conclusion completely. The transportation secretary is assuming that Cheney was talking about an order to fire. However, the 'younger fellow' that repeatedly asked for clarification to maintain orders may have been asking because of the implications of allowing impact. (The lives of federal employees nonetheless),
since the "orders" were obviously connected to the approaching airplane - one has to wonder which orders they were. Logic says it was orders to let the plane approach unharmed since the Pentagon is a NO-FLY-ZONE.
Dick Cheney gave a stand down order to NORAD on 9/11.Norman Mineta testified under oath that Cheney gave the order & no one did nothing about it. 9/11 was used as an excuse for the "Patriot Act" to eliminate important constitutional rights such as habeas corpus, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly...
The moment SANDY BERGER STOLE DOCUMENTS RELATING TO AL-QAIDA. (HE WAS ALLEGEDLY REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS IN PREPARATION FOR HIS TESTIMONY. HOWEVER, THE DOCUMENTS ENDED UP IN HIS SOCKS & UNDERWEAR!!)
THE 911 COMMISSION WAS OBSTRUCTED FROM FINDING OUT ANY TRUTH ABOUT 9/11.
SANDY BERGER SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED 30 YRS IN PRISON!!!
If NEADs didn't know FL11 crashed into WTC at 8:46 (1st reported as a small plane) then they knew it was possibly still in the air & headed towards DC.And since they knew that why did they put the fighters in a holding pattern over the sea waiting for FAA authorization to send the fighters to NEW YORK?
a bedroom full of STAR WARS figures and a bad case of acne, who just doesn't understand the grown up world or my last, a senior citizen from the Walter Cronkite era who lives in these Leave it beaver and my three sons fantasy world where the 6 oclock news is just like gospel and as true. you are a blind, deaf, dumb, completely nieve and unaware how the global governments and intelligence arms work. Whatever the extent you need serious wak up call to how the world really is, your just a child!
and theories to back up their claims, no, you never do that. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald it's always some lone nut job in his basement wearing adult diapers and tinfoil on his head. This poor unfortunate person is singled out at the 911 events and paraded before the cameras and the witty news casters have their little chuckle and the ignorant people out there, the older generation believe this to be fact and that all truthers are like this nut job. Your kind hate truth, always have, Winning!
section that was recently reinforced, and where coincidentally records were stored where 2.3 trillion dollars was missing? The planes 60 miles out, the plane is 40 miles out, do the orders still stand, IF THIS WAS A SHOOT DOWN ORDER,WHICH IT WASNT WHY THE HELL WAS IT NOT SHOT DOWN??? Come on government lover, tell us stupid truthers your wisdom on this, give us your vast knowledge and we will bow to your genius and become elite government lovers like you. Wars is peace and ignorance is strength!
@Denierbud11 You are a intellectual child. Mineta is talking about the plane that supposely crashed into the Pentagon, the interviewer says near 3:39 there was no specific order to shoot down that plane and Mineta agrees, then the interviewer says there was military aircraft in the air scrambled to shoot down planes and Mineta agrees. SO why in the hell was a giant tin beer can allowed to walse right in, even after they had in on radar outside of 100 miles, and crash in a section, the only cont
the truther who has now fleed the scene made the statement that there was a standing 13 mile no fly zone around the pentagon --- there is a busy international airport 2 miles away -- so he's full of shit. that was my point numb nuts
@Denierbud11 It's irelevant, Why was the plane not shot down? Not one government lover can answer this, not one, they go off on perimeters and fly zones and 13 mile this, the question which will not go away is WHY WASN'T IT SHOT DOWN???
Why do you think it was so easy to shot down? the order to kill the passengers and crew, not to mention the civilians on the ground ... a shot down over a populated area may be worse the letting an unknown go forward -- that's assuming the opion to shot it down exisisted. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to give that order? the only known shot down of a passenger jet in history is the Soviet shot down of the Korean flight during the cold war
@Denierbud11 I'm just feeling you out, I am jusy seeing how far gone you are and if there is anyroom for compromise. I do this with all the government fairy tale lovers who buy this absolute childish fantasy as fact. Dude there are a millions of holes in the governments fairy tale and this is why no debunkers ever show up to 911 symposiums across the country, they know they will be destroyed by real facts that they could never rebutt. That's why your kind hide behind a keyboard, no risk!
@Denierbud11 Man it's a sad world when the people who long for the truth are vilified and labelled kooks, and those who lie and decieve are seen as heros and normal, no wonder Jesus said in the later days in shall be like the days of Noah, they were a hoard of lying, cheating, twisted, manipulating, pagans who lusted after every evil, and Noah who longed for truth was labelled a kook and nutcase, yeah sounds about par with our current world, very sad indeed!
@Denierbud11 See this is where you so called debunkers fall apart. You catorgorize all of us in the same box, what one delusional nut case theory on 911 has you assume that we all believe and acknowledge that theory as truth, when this couldn't be the farthest thing from the truth. No intelligent truther I kow believes in space lazers or holograms or any nonesense like that. But you just like the media never acknowledge the scientist and egineers or architects with sound reasoning and cont..
Judy Woods is a Phd and is the space weapons guru who also claims there were no planes -- go to the "let's roll" forum and check out there crap -- they go so far as to claim the jumpers were animated. So yes, I do test the waters to see how looney the truther is. Its the price you pay for hanging with the crowd. Until someone of note steps forth, you will all be painted with the same brush.
@Denierbud11 LAST POST: You can't convince a slave that he is a slave if he won't acknowledge the chains around his legs. You are aither a paid shill, and from what we know there are thousands upon thousands on the internet who are actually paid to debunk they are told to get into lenthy drawn out debates with truthers and to never I mean never give in on their position no matter how convincing the truther's logic is or your just some kid in his parent's basement who still wets the bed and has
@Denierbud11 what about the American Navy, who shot down a Iranian passanger plane, thinking that it was a fighter jet. Well that was U.S governments excuse anyway!
@99BrownDog i might not be thinking of what you are...but i thought it was a russian plane? and then the US allowed russian to shoot down flight TWA800 instead?
@Denierbud11 Think about it logically. To not shoot it down means the passengers will die, and it's target will be hit. To shoot it down means the passengers will die. "Over a populated area" is a null statement. What if it were heading for a school or a packed convention center? The casualties would be far greater if you let it reach it's target. The default position in the military is "Shoot it down", because in this nuclear age the risk of not doing so it too great.
Since it never has happened before, the option to shoot would be extreme -- and over a populated area is not a 'null' statement. it is very much a factor
More people showed up at ground zero to celebrate the death of Bin Laden than the truth movement has managed in its history, no matter how hard they tried
truthers have join flat earthers and holocaust deniers in society's dead ass pile
good luck JSS, your life has no meaning, America has spoken --- find a new life
@Denierbud11 Then explain to us flat earthers why Dick Cheney let that plane come right in, why was it allowed to come in a crash into the building? This should be good!
of course, you think the order to shot down a passenger jet over a city is routine --- when was the last time an order to shot down a passenger jet was issued? can you answer that?
@Denierbud11 As soon as the first plane hit the order should of been given to shoot the other 3. Now you tell me why it wasn't??, because at that very instant it will of been known that whoever was flying them planes where not messing around.
How fucking ignorant -- when the first plane hit it was thought to have been an accident, the second impact woke everyone up --- how old are you? Do you not remember that day? You do not just issue orders to shoot down passenger jets!
@Denierbud11 I take it your young angry and rather ignorant with your opening reply. There was a protacol already in place to deal with such incidents, apart from that the pentagon has a 13 mile no fly zone. Orders had been issued earlier to bypass that protacol and and order to stand down had been issued. So yes you do shoot down planes that refuse to change course or respond when requested. NORAD had been told to stand down. Please try to repond like an adult next time :)
No, but you do show your ignorance and how you believe everything you read on truther sites
tell me smart ass -- how could the Pentagon have a 13 mile no fly zone when it is less than two miles from Reagon International Airport!! Oh Good, what an idiot you are!
Fuck are you stupid! Go troll some place for children
OCTers are constantly rebooting their arguments. i can't imagine how the Bin Laden raid and the aftermath must have rattled Denierbud's mind. Wait...the story is what? Wait...can somebody tell me what the real story is?
How is this proof of an inside job? He said that planes were scrambled to intercept Flight 77, but were 10 minutes out still. There was no stand down order , otherwise these planes would have stayed at Langley.
They waited to scramble the jets. Nobody is clear on what the jets were scrambled for. What is clear is that an order was given before the plane was 50 miles out and this order had to wait and wait until it was 10 miles out. If the the order was to scramble jets, then we wouldn't have needed to wait till 10 miles out. The order was most certainly a stand down and our military guy was growing concerned as it approached so he asked if the stand down was still in effect.
jSS, WOW, still truthing even after every argument you tried got palmed at JREF == truthers are great, no amount of evidence will change you from your course
"Palmed"? Really? Which argument did you "palm"? How was it "palmed"?
Still denying?
"No amount of evidence will change you from your course."
You mean like the thermitic material that was found but NIST didn't test for?
I laugh at you guys cuz all you do is hang on NIST's nuts. I remember clearly how dumbfounded you guys were when NIST admitted free fall. of WTC 7 in 2008. You had to reboot your entire argument.
@Denierbud11 Norman Mineta was not in charge when 9/11 happened. Dick Cheney removed all powers from the generals during this time and made all of it go through him. No shoot down of planes unless he said so.
Flt. 77 did not hit the building, it had to stay in the air to fool people that the Pentagon was hit. In reality they blew it up, the section that was blown up was "recently renovated" against "bomb blasts" surprisingly.
w w w . c i t i z e n i n v e s t i g a t i o n t e a m . c o m
"By any means necessary, we must first convince the dumb-massez to continue to believe that a plane hit the Twin Towers on 9-11" -The Unknown Conspirator
@kidkong584 Not fail. Obviously Cheney should have ordered a shoot down, if it was being tracked. The plane hit a side of the building well away from Rumsfeld's office (he was there) or what would create maximum death, hitting the TOP of the building on the other side, which would have made an easier crash landing than what actually happened. Occam's Razor be damned.
@DarthKazi Yes, I know that. I'm saying that he knew that a plane was heading towards the Pentagon from when it was 60 miles out. However, they didn't even try to get ANYONE out of the Pentagon. NO ONE should have died in the Pentagon.
@kidkong584 Allegedly they only knew it was 50 miles out from DC. I assume, if you are to believe they were not "in on it", they didn't know what it was going to hit. Mineta was interviewed later and and stated the White House was being evacuated when he arrived to meet in the bunker underneath. People were running out of the building as they arrived. Mineta also claimed they only had radar blips of the plane since the transponder was shut off. Whatevs...
This is the smoking Gun, Dick Cheney was encharge that Day of Norad. So why didn't those planes get taking down, protecting more lives? ..Dick and Bush had an agenda, and then IRAQ was another lie, we have a pattern here folks!
I've had like 100 times where in my head I'm like. This proves it, 9/11 was an inside job no doubt.. I only wish 99 of those times it was other people and not me
@blackjerryboymetal How can you be so naive and actually ignorant of American National Defense Rules :
The 9/11 commission released the tape of the "SHOOT DOWN ODER" from the vice President on the Pennsylvania Plane. IT IS ON THE RECORD and was played on National TV years ago. How ever Our Government lied by stating that this order arrived too late and that the plane did crash before. a former NSA
employee confirmed (not officially) that the plane was indeed shot down in Pennsylvania.
@blackjerryboymetal WHAT KIND OF IGNORANT ARE YOU ? WATCH THE VIDEO ! What did our transportation secretary SAID ? a man was asking Dick Cheney if we had to "Intercept" the plane approaching
which he refused to DO . ONLY the Presidential plane and US military planes have a special " Friendly Signal" to allow them to fly by the Pentagon EVERY OTHER aircraft trigger a "DEFENSE SYSTEM" which will send Jet planes to intercept and shoot it down IF NECESSARY D Cheney stopped the process
Now that the CIA merc, killer for hire Davis has been captured in Pakistan, he's singing like a canary, telling that he was giving nuclear weapons material to CIA fronts, like the phony 'al CIA Duh.'
We've been lied to since 9/11, all to support 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' and give our corrupt government an excuse to turn the USA into a police state.
Anyone who still believes it was 19 Ayyyrabs, led by a man dying from kidney disease 12,000 miles away is just an Israeli shill.
Look away all you deniers that the Government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. THE TRUTH MAY HURT YOUR COWARDLY EARS! Take comfort in the lil book titled the 9/11 Commission whom 60% of the commission members admittedly stated was a bunch of BS. Facts hurt, reality is harsh. I'm sorry the government doesn't love you. The dream is over wake up, or sit back down like the mindless programed robot you are. There is more to life then EAT, FUCK, SHIT. Be strong, face the truth. Peace.
The White House and the Commision report claims that Mineta was talking about flight 93, which they claim was shot down in Penn. They have stated that the plane was at most 60 miles out, possibly 10 miles out. Yet Shanksville is 127 miles from Washington. Was it teleported 100 miles to be shot down? Obviously the White House and Commision were scrambling and conspired to discredit Mineta.
@jimmywalter 1) They dont claim it was shot down. 2) they didnt have a radar track on it, they were tracking it based on time and speed on a plotting board. So, without any confirmation that the plane did crash, they were still proceeding to track it inbound.
@EdgemanLL2 Radar worked a long time before radar transponders were invented. Taking a transponder out of an aircraft does not render it invisible, and the blips are not sorted out my eye, but by supercomputer. The assertion that removing the transponder was the critical factor in masking these flights is ludicrous.
@skinzamen No shit, skinhead. But the Radar used by ATC does NOT (unless near a TCA) pick up low-flying aircraft. Which is why 77 was essentially lost until of popped up on the KDCA local ATC radar.
Further, idiot, when a transponder goes out, the AT Controller relies on coordination with the crew to establish its position, and THEN it can be tracked visually.
@EdgemanLL2 So you're telling me the only defence America has against airborne attack is the radar at the ATC? Those thousands of satellites, all that GPS technology, and God alone knows what else... None of that is employed by the Pentagon. Oh no. Especially after the Cold War and the constant threat of an airborne nuke. A jet couldn't fly over Saddam without him knowing, yet you seem to assert that America's defences are sloppy or it's tech outdated. Are you retarded?
@EdgemanLL2 And after the cold war and the constant threat of a stealthy air delivered nuclear payload, the ONLY thing that the U.S. has to defend it's airspace is the Radar at the ATC. No satellites, no sonic locators, no GPS. The Pentagon is still using a telescope and a slingshot. Well done. You're retarded.
@skinzamoron Only problem here is that 1) Commercial jets arent stealthy, 2) they dont (and didnt on 911) deliver nuclear payloads, and 3) the US DOES use Satellites to track planes entering the ADIZ, and 4) to the extent that Norad was concerned with threats from planes delivering a nuke payload, its focus was polar routes which would result in many hours of warning before a decision need be made.
Your brain couldnt fill a shot glass. Well done. Fuxing moron. ::points and laughs::: LOLOL
@EdgemanLL2 The U.S. Is the most technologically advanced and militarily powerful nation in the world. I love how debunkers assume they know what goes through high commands head. The polar routes went out the window with the fall of the Soviets, idiot. The U.S. watches everyone now. You are still basing your claims on the assertion that the U.S. could not defend itself against a small, badly trained strike force that it, the U.S., knew was there for some time before they struck. Aren't you?
@skinzamen "I love how debunkers assume they know what goes through high commands head."
I love how fuxing RETARDS like you do EXACTLY that (Duhhh, they were stood down! I know it cuz I can read minds! I dont have a fuxing mind of my own! Im skinzamoron! But can read other peoples minds!) then whine about others.
I, on the other hand, dont need to know whats "on their minds." the mission and role of NORAD as originally constituted is well know to anyone nor a moron like you. lololol
@EdgemanLL2 Read my comments and quote me where I said they were stood down. You assert that America's defence is full of holes, I say it's not the case. And I simply don't understand your last remark because you can't communicate your point effectivley. I'm going to cut and paste here:
You are still basing your claims on the idea that the U.S. could not defend itself against a small, badly trained strike force that it, the U.S., knew was there for some time before they struck. Aren't you?
@1776Matthew I agree but this video demonstrates that American Zionists inside the Bush administration (PNAC members & in this case Zionist Neo con Dick Cheney) were behind it WHO GAIN ?NOT 19 dead Arabs NOT Afghanistan NOT Iraq NOT the CIA / ISI created Al Qaeda.ONLY those who UNFORTUNATELY shape our Middle Eastern policies The Israeli Lobby and their Arab haters Likud Party Bosses. & also our Military Intel security industrial complex who are making Billions out of their phony War on Terror
@reykool There was no stand down order on 9-11. Try getting soem facts before you post stuff and make youreslef look stupid. Maybe you can't help it lol
@skinzamen NORAD has nothing to do with stopping a guy with a box cutter. If you did some research on what NORAD does you might post something worth my time. .
@Kyles45Angel I said the U.S. Air defence, comprising of all instruments and organizations that can help defend the U.S.'s sky. Norad is one, sure. Once a man with boxcutters hijacks a jet, he is totally NORAD's responsibility. That the FAA didn't report till too late is untrue... the transcripts are out . The official story still asserts that a poorly trained strike force that the U.S. knew about carried out a successful operation right under the state's nose. I still say bullshit.
@skinzamen Your opinion after 10 years of thinking what should have happened means nothing. You forgot to mention the planes we supposed to be in the airspace they were in. They were mixed in with 4000 other planes in the same airspace. This hijacked planes were alss on secondary radar. What did you propse NORAD do? Shoot them down? Look up the last time the US shot down a hijacked plane.
If you don't know that 9/11 was a conspiracy, LIES are out there, BUT good information too. FACTS,SCIENCE,TESTIMONY (see this video ),
9/11 plot is the most documented crime in world history, enough is out there to send dozens of current and former government officials,military officers to prison. IF U HAVE NOT BEGUN THE PATH TOWARD LEARNING THE TRUTH OR ARE UNWILLING TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE WHILE OTHERS DIE FOR A LIE YOU HOLD YOUR MANHOOD CHEAP
"why weren't the Pentagon, Capitol building and White House evacuated" - Whitehouse was evacuated. Others were not because they had no idea where flight 77 was actually going to hit
Where the fuck do you think the plane is going to hit? The pentagon is one of the most important targets for anyone looking to inflict damage on our infrastructure. Of course it should have been evacuated. It's a no brainer!
@Reytard You can whine about ME all you want to. But youre a pussified, cowardly little bitch who cant even hit "reply" because not ONLY am I so effective, you shit your pants in fear at the thought of facing me directly. =]
@EdgemanLL2 You are trying WAY to hard to be butch. I knew you were femme the first time I read your writing. Maybe you can have a femme-to-butch change operation? Nope, I don' t think they can do that. To bad for you. I'll bet my last dollar you're a little narrow shouldered little pencil neck who got beat up on the playground.
@reytard. You can whine all about my comments being empty. But youre such a pussy you cant even face me directly. PROVING not only am I effective. But that you shit ur pants in fear over me. =]
Mineta assumes the staffer was talking about a plane. Cheney knew it was a missile headed for the Pentagon. The staffer was asking whether they should abort and Darth Vader Cheney says, well you heard it.
Fried52 1 week ago
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At 9:21am on 911 an Air traffic controller named Scroggins called NEADS (in violation of protocal) & reported unconfirmed (and mistaken) information that FL11 was still in the air & headed towards DC.NEADS acted on this information (in violation of protocal) & scrambled Langley AFB sending the jets in the wrong direction at the very time the real hijacked aircraft (FL77) was approaching DC from the opposite direction.Allowing the Pentagon to be hit.Why was no one ever punished?
waitew 2 weeks ago
Americans are so stupid. Two building don't get hit by planes and then three fall down at nearly free fall speed. It's physically impossible! Newtons law on Falling Bodies just doesn't seem to apply to anything on Sep. 11. 2001...Dumb fucking Americans
MrCrazyb23 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@MrCrazyb23
Classifying all peoples of America as stupid for something that seems evident to you and most likely millions more and without ever asking them for their opinion is very foolish. For this we forgive you.
Ancient Chinese proverb says: The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise man is in his heart.
icicicles 1 month ago
@icicicles I was being facetious. I know that proverb, and I also many Americans don't fall for the fake propaganda they are just handed to them. But I also know that Americans have an ideology to 'protect & serve' their country, which is installed at a young age. Although it's a good thing in part, it also destroys cognitive thought when dealing with government. America is a young country & has never had to deal with corrupt government like Europe has...after all we have a 2000 year head start!
MrCrazyb23 1 month ago
@MrCrazyb23 But there is a subset to Americans Ideology. Some Americans (and insecure, jealous European types) believe in hating america and blaming it for every evil in the world.
This destroys their cognition, because when something like 911 happens, they are uncapable of anything other than their pre-determined conclusion.
BTW, Ive watched this video over and over. I dont hear Mineta say "I heard Cheney gove a stand down order."
Can you tell me where Mineta says this?
EdgemanLL2 1 month ago
@EdgemanLL2 "Do the orders still stand?" - This was NOT to shoot the plane down. Dick 'Chicken Hawk' Cheney made this very clear without Norman Mineta having to spell it out in this clip. Either way, NO plane hit the Pentagon. This is why there is NO video evidence, and what video evidence that could be shown is confiscated. This is a huge smoking gun and if the American government wants the public on their side...show a plane hitting the Pentagon. Simple. But they can't.
MrCrazyb23 1 month ago
@MrCrazyb23 Im sorry, you must be a moron who doesnt understand English.
See, Mineta was asked what he knew about the SHOOTDOWN order, and Mineta confirms that this was when he became aware of the SHOOTDOWN order.
A huge smoking gun and if the 911 Moron movement wans the public on their side...show me Mineta actually saying "I heard Cheney say "stand down the fighters."
Simple. But they cant. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 month ago
@EdgemanLL2 ok well aside form a standdown order what coudl they have been talking about?....
well they could be talking about a shootdown order ....thats true ....but he is describing the planes approach to the pentagon and he gets to 10 miles out and asks if the order stands .....why was the plane not shot down ......when he said clearly that they had planes in the air "ready to shoot down comercial aircraft"at the end of the vid
kindnugz420 1 week ago
@kindnugz420 and if you think that the government would never stand down american planes from defending americans then think again
de classified transcripts and interviews with people on the line at the time clearly show LBJ recalling us fighters from a rescue/support mission to save the uss liberty which was under attack by Israeli boats and aircraft
"i want that goddamn boat to go to the bottom ...no help ....recall the wings"
watch?v=QSyMBDq5efg
kindnugz420 1 week ago
@kindnugz420 Gee Whiz Sparky, the comment I made, to which you replied, already answered that.
What part of "Mineta was asked what he knew about the shoot down order" were you too stupid to understand?
EdgemanLL2 1 week ago
@EdgemanLL2 you must not have understood what i said
if they had fighter planes in the air as they said
ready to shoot down the flight ...as they said .....
and an order had been givin .....which is the reason the one asked "does the order still stand"
so my question is
if an order had been givin ...and orders are followed...and nothing happened to the airliner when f-16's from Langley were poised to shoot it down ....what other order could have been givin other than a stand down order
kindnugz420 1 week ago
@kindnugz420 "you must not have understood what i said"
No bitch, I understood exactly what you were talking about. "what other order could they have been talking about."
That questions was answered. They WERE talking about a shootdown, and nothing else.
If youre too fuxing stupid to understand that simple conversation, dont whine about people not being rational. Rational people dont ignore facts.
PS. Im sorry that I hurt your vagina.
EdgemanLL2 1 week ago
@EdgemanLL2 and as far as you instantly jumping all in my face calling me sparky and stupid you should check that attitude and actually try to have a rational discussion about something instead of acting like a 12 yr old and flaming everyone who dosent agree with you
:) have a great day "sparky"
kindnugz420 1 week ago
@kindnugz420 so do everyone a favor real quick and spend ...one hour...and research these topics and then tell me its a bunch of bullshit
all of these can be found on official government sites and accredited news sites you just have to LOOK
operation Ajax terrorist campaign against iran
operation gladio umbrella name for a cia mi6 operation responsible for hundreds of bombings and killings
operation Northwoods
national security memorandum 200 ...talks about using food as a weapon
kindnugz420 1 week ago
@kindnugz420 now your gonna say well this is all bullshit ..this stuff is old ...they would never do something like this now ...and before you freak out on another tirade think about this
the very same people who were running the show back in the 60's and 70's and 80's that made those plans and devised those ideas are still heavily involved in administrating our country ..many are still in various offices and cabinets
kindnugz420 1 week ago
@kindnugz420 make this part of your hour
/watch?v=7qs-9Jbf8KY paste this after you tube . com
kindnugz420 1 week ago
Dan Rather's live report of 2 men being arrested driving a van loaded with explosives en route to the George Washington Bridge says it all. Two Mossad agents, held for 9 weeks and released by order of Michael Chertoff, dual Israeli citizen and czar of DHS. The Zionist occupation of America will bring about our ultimate destruction as a free people.
aubreyfarmer 2 months ago
no plane wreckage in shanksville, pa. no plane wreckage at the pentagon. footage of explosion at pentagon shows no plane. bush got caught lying about 9/11 saying that he saw the first plane hit on tv and thought it was just a 'terrible pilot'. said he was waiting to outside the class room 'and the tv was OBVIOUSLY on' because you know how there are tvs on in the hallways of most elementary schools. wtc buiding 7 collapsed in the same controlled demolition style as 1&2 even tho no plane hit.
pfog 2 months ago
Hey,how can they be tracking FL77 50 miles out when according to the official story they didn't even know about it until after it crashed?Of course,between 2001 & 2004 they did know about it (FL175 too) & scrambled fighters in time to stop both,but they ended up out over the Atlantic instead (2 sets from 2 different bases no less!).Of course,according to the 1st official story no fighters were scrambled at all until after the Pentagon was struck.Changing story=LIE !
waitew 2 months ago
To all of you debunkers if there was a LEGIT investigation don't any of you sheeple realise THIS ALONE would be justification in bringing a trial to Dick Cheney. This is a confirmed witness account of that day and along with the PERSON that Mineta is talking about there's no question of Cheney's guilt. There are people in prison right now that are there because multiple witness accounts. What the hell do you sheeple want? Video footage or an admition of guilt from Dickie C?
sixerjones 2 months ago
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sixerjones 2 months ago
@sixerjones Are you saying that Ron Paul is in the running for NWO member of the week?
JZJYRWO 2 months ago
@JZJYRWO What are you talking about? If your wanting to know why Paul is running with these clowns you have to listen to his explanation for doing so(exposure etc.) If that isn't the reason you need to pull your head out of your as* and read the explanation I've written on this page again..
sixerjones 2 months ago
Really?
Yes, Really.
So far, NOTHING! LOLOLOLOL
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@CRschralper Jesus dude! Youve had 2 weeks to try and come up wiht something? Anything? And still nothing?
All you can do is run off and hide?
Do you idiots wonder why no one takes you seriously?
EdgemanLL2 2 months ago
"My motto is 'show me evidence on an inside job, and Ill believe you.'"
Really???
Google: "Israel did 9/11 all the proof in the world" ; "Solving 9/11 - The deception that changed the world" ; "Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America"; "Dual Citizen ship - Loyal to whom?"
On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov did 9/11" AND "Former CIA Officer - Israel controls US gov't"
You have to LOOK at the evidence first, SUCKER, which takes balls you DON'T have.
CRschralper 3 months ago
@npsiebe1 You are loling at reycool because he's claiming 50% of the infantry is made up of private security firms who deploy their employees into combat situation under the command of the U.S. Military. You even called him inbred. You are actually quite wrong, but to be fair, so is he. Since the war in the east has lost popularity and less people actually join the military proper, the troops are made up of well over 50% privately owned resources. You fucking dickhead.
skinzamen 4 months ago
@npsiebe1 soooooo..... Ever change your mind about this simple statement of fact? Ever check it out and realize it's openly true?
skinzamen 5 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal Two Muslims work for the local paper here. They are dead against blowing themselves. up. They enjoy the capatilistic lifestyle too much. You sepratist generalist idiot.
skinzamen 5 months ago
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MyHairyBreasts 5 months ago
"During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??" - Norman Mineta testimony
MyHairyBreasts 5 months ago
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MyHairyBreasts 5 months ago
Or the order could have been to not shoot it down, in the hope it would change course or not turn out to be hijacked.
Or perhaps it wasn't as much an inside job like you conspiracy theorists like to say, but rather a planned response. The long term game. Faking a terrorist attack is not worth it, but in it's event, if there is a successful terrorist attack, accept the damage and play the cards in your favour. Using the hand dealt, they were able to garner support for the Iraq invasion.
hellofraaance 5 months ago
@hellofraaance That's still a conspiracy theory man. And even if the U.S. govt's only crime is complicity, it still allowed it's own citizens to die to further an agenda not known to those citizens. No matter which way you look at it, a lot of people NEED to be hung.
skinzamen 5 months ago
Thank you Mr. Norman Mineta
US Secretary of Transportation is telling the TRUTH.
It;s an inside job.
Reopen 911 !!!
mayaforpeaceful 5 months ago in playlist More videos from derdy 2
@mayaforpeaceful yeah. He told the truth. They were discussing the shootdown order .
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
The Operation Centre is not the sort of place you'd find the Vice president. Yet VP Cheney happened to be at the Centre t the exact time on the exact date. A strong inference may be darwn is that he there to ensure the passage of the flight which was intended to hit the Pentagon !
SisyphusTwo 5 months ago
@SisyphusTwo Well, given that it was the PRESIDENTIAL emer-ops-center, then yes, it is exactly the place to find the leadership of the executive branch in an emergency.
Jesus. Do you people ever give 1 second's thought to anything before you say it?
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
Darth Cheney was ALREADY in the PEOC when Mineta arrived, meaning Cheny is a LIAR. What is Darth hiding?
Hey Edge...you're such a pro at this 9/11 stuff, I mean you've been trolling these sites for years. Let's assume total U.S. government innocence for a moment. Is there any chance that Israel was involved in pulling off the attacks knowing it would incite the full scale obliteration of their Arab enemies? Makes sense, does it not?
CRschralper 3 months ago
@CRschralper Mineta has confirmed that he wasnt in the PEOC until WELL AFTER the WH was evac'd. Meaning he AND Cheney got there approximately 9:50-10:00. Which is consistent with the testimony.
Israel did it? So its all the Joooz fault, right Adolf? LOLOLOL.
Go iron your brown shirt, bitch. The little, square moustache needs work too. Maybe once you fully pass puberty?
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
Mineta confirmed when he entered NO LATER than 9:15-9:20, Cheney was there & the "object" was on approach. U LIE.
Dr. Alan Sabrosky is the former director of studies for the U.S. Army War college & states he's 100% sure 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Who has more respect & credibility, him...or your stupid ass??
We know Edge, you DESPISE Arabs & are pro-ZIONIST all the way. So were you jumping for joy when ISREAL MASSACRED 20 people in their latest show of inhuman psycopathy??
CRschralper 3 months ago
@NaziSchralper Norm admits, that he was never really sure of the time. But if you watch the video (its the top of the list, on the right side of this page) "Mineta and the secret orders of Cheney" Mineta confirms that he didnt even get to the white house until AFTER it was evacuated (0945). And he first had to be briefed. And then after the briefing it was another, approx 5 mins before he arrived at the PEOC.
Check mate! Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
Cont) We know. CRs, that youre an america hating traitor to humanity who sides with terrorists who killed 3k people on 911.
Admit it. The last time you got wood was when you saw planes slamming into buildings. Thats why youre so grateful to Alqaeda for doing it. People jumping to their death is your viagra.
Ben Arnold was offered a commission in the Brit navy for his treason. What has Alqaeda offered you? Or is your treason voluntary?
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
We know you're an Arab hating zionist boot licker, trolling these for how many years now?? Wish I could say "good effort" but...YOU FAILED. The jig is up, the goose is loose, the world KNOWS that ISRAEL & their deception machine the MOSSAD helped plan/execute 9/11 & here you are still selling transparent tales about Muslim extremists who DIDN'T do 9/11 or MASSACRE 20 UNARMED volunteers on that Gaza flotilla did they EDGE??? How many boxes of wine did you put back after that one?
CRschralper 3 months ago
@CRschralper More crying about me, because she cant refute the facts.
Edge wins!
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
How many lies do you tell in one day?? Mineta arrived AS the WH was evacuatING, not evacuatED, because the second tower had JUST been hit, so it's like 9:05-9:15, he heads inside, talks to R. Clarke for 4-5min, then secret service lead him to the PEOC BEFORE the Pentagon strike, a scene he describes in detail.
Once again, who is in a better position to make an informed opinion about 9/11, Dr. Alan Sabrosky from the U.S. Army War College or "EdgemanLL2" from dipshit Iowa??
CRschralper 3 months ago
@CRschralper Guess again, bitchtits.
The WH evacuation was 9:45. And as Mineta confirms (the video I referenced you to) he says he was passing the OEOB, watching people evacuate from there, and the WH as he drove up. He remarked to this drive (paraphrased) "whats wrong with this picture. Everyone else is leaving, and we are going in?"
Which means he wasnt even inside the WH doors before 9:45.
Cry for me some more bitch! Crying Kook is my favorite sound. HAHAHAHA
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
So then Mineta's entire testimony about the "plane coming into the Pentagon"...50mi, 30mi, 10mi. out was all just fantasy & he was taking a break for "story time"?
Look at your dog, then look in the mirror. $3 if you can tell me who is smarter?
CRschralper 3 months ago
@CRshill. Youll have to ask Mineta. Ive never spoken to him.
Tell me again how you love govt cock, so when someone who worked for the Army tells you something, you blindly believe it because govt never lies.
LOLOL
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@CRshill "Once again, I believe Alan Sabrosky, because he worked for the US Govt. I love suxing govt cock! Govt never lies! Im a goddamn moron govt shill from Iowa!"
LMGDAOOOOOO.
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
Too funny...you've been cheerleading the government bullshit for years but now when someone in the same gov., even in the military no less, challenges those lies, you're stuck like an idiot with your head spinning. So which is it spaz, who should you believe...the criminal Bush admin. & their Zionist handlers or Sabrosky? Go listen to the 7 part interview - "Alan Sabrosky knows Israel - Rogue US gov. did 9/11" then come back & try and refute it pussy.
CRschralper 3 months ago
@CRshill. Too funny! you suck govt cock, then claim that others (who do nothing MORE than laugh at your retarded theories) is somehow cheeleading.
LOLOLOL
"Govt said so, its gotta be true!" CRschalper Motto!
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
@EdgemanLL2
"Govt said so, its gotta be true!"
Wait, hasn't this been YOUR motto for the last 10yrs?? The gov. said it MUST have been 19 rogue Arabs so there is NO WAY any other group was invovled!! LMAO.
On YT: "Alan Sabrosky 100% sure Israel - Rogue US gov. did 9/11" - Either refute it or just keep on sputtering insults and sentence fragments.
"EdgemanLL2" = Defender of Savages
CRschralper 3 months ago
@CRshill
Nope. My motto is "show me evidence on an inside job, and Ill believe you."
Your motto is "Im a paid govt dumbass shill from Iowa who believes what govt says!"
PS, Im sorry I hurt your vagina. =]
EdgemanLL2 3 months ago
the young man said "the plane", so it could have been a fighter, ordered to shoot a missile at Pentagon.
Birgeyful 5 months ago
I agree with the video summary's conclusion completely. The transportation secretary is assuming that Cheney was talking about an order to fire. However, the 'younger fellow' that repeatedly asked for clarification to maintain orders may have been asking because of the implications of allowing impact. (The lives of federal employees nonetheless),
truorion 6 months ago
since the "orders" were obviously connected to the approaching airplane - one has to wonder which orders they were. Logic says it was orders to let the plane approach unharmed since the Pentagon is a NO-FLY-ZONE.
TheHorsenation 6 months ago
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Dick Cheney gave a stand down order to NORAD on 9/11.Norman Mineta testified under oath that Cheney gave the order & no one did nothing about it. 9/11 was used as an excuse for the "Patriot Act" to eliminate important constitutional rights such as habeas corpus, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly...
vipent5 6 months ago
9/11 was a excuse to take over Middle East oil. click Justice party UK.
justicepartyuk 6 months ago
@justicepartyuk
Well it didn't work then did it? rather poor excuse ... why not just line up Iraqi students?
Denierbud11 6 months ago
why didnt cheney call the pentagon and say" uh...... scuse me.. but a jet is coming at ya"??????...anyone?
chumbels 6 months ago
DICK CHENEY WAS NOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN THE 9/11 ATTACKS BEGAN! HE WAS IN SARASOTA,FLORIDA, THE LYING BASTAR_.
SEE ABC VIDEO OF CHENEY ON THE SARASOTA TARMAC AT 8:48AM,EDT ON 9/11.
youtube.com/watch?v=UbE5QBMEgjU
lucymo1000 6 months ago
The moment SANDY BERGER STOLE DOCUMENTS RELATING TO AL-QAIDA. (HE WAS ALLEGEDLY REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS IN PREPARATION FOR HIS TESTIMONY. HOWEVER, THE DOCUMENTS ENDED UP IN HIS SOCKS & UNDERWEAR!!)
THE 911 COMMISSION WAS OBSTRUCTED FROM FINDING OUT ANY TRUTH ABOUT 9/11.
SANDY BERGER SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED 30 YRS IN PRISON!!!
lucymo1000 6 months ago 2
If NEADs didn't know FL11 crashed into WTC at 8:46 (1st reported as a small plane) then they knew it was possibly still in the air & headed towards DC.And since they knew that why did they put the fighters in a holding pattern over the sea waiting for FAA authorization to send the fighters to NEW YORK?
waitew 6 months ago
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自信の信念を曲げず、正義を貫いた、偉大な日系人である。
tohokuganbare 6 months ago
a bedroom full of STAR WARS figures and a bad case of acne, who just doesn't understand the grown up world or my last, a senior citizen from the Walter Cronkite era who lives in these Leave it beaver and my three sons fantasy world where the 6 oclock news is just like gospel and as true. you are a blind, deaf, dumb, completely nieve and unaware how the global governments and intelligence arms work. Whatever the extent you need serious wak up call to how the world really is, your just a child!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
from a person who claims his opposition must be getting paid --- how low a standard of evidence you need to call something fact
Denierbud11 7 months ago
and theories to back up their claims, no, you never do that. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald it's always some lone nut job in his basement wearing adult diapers and tinfoil on his head. This poor unfortunate person is singled out at the 911 events and paraded before the cameras and the witty news casters have their little chuckle and the ignorant people out there, the older generation believe this to be fact and that all truthers are like this nut job. Your kind hate truth, always have, Winning!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
section that was recently reinforced, and where coincidentally records were stored where 2.3 trillion dollars was missing? The planes 60 miles out, the plane is 40 miles out, do the orders still stand, IF THIS WAS A SHOOT DOWN ORDER,WHICH IT WASNT WHY THE HELL WAS IT NOT SHOT DOWN??? Come on government lover, tell us stupid truthers your wisdom on this, give us your vast knowledge and we will bow to your genius and become elite government lovers like you. Wars is peace and ignorance is strength!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
It must be embarrassing to be a truther --- making statements of fact when they are not a fact
how do you recover?
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 You are a intellectual child. Mineta is talking about the plane that supposely crashed into the Pentagon, the interviewer says near 3:39 there was no specific order to shoot down that plane and Mineta agrees, then the interviewer says there was military aircraft in the air scrambled to shoot down planes and Mineta agrees. SO why in the hell was a giant tin beer can allowed to walse right in, even after they had in on radar outside of 100 miles, and crash in a section, the only cont
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
the truther who has now fleed the scene made the statement that there was a standing 13 mile no fly zone around the pentagon --- there is a busy international airport 2 miles away -- so he's full of shit. that was my point numb nuts
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 It's irelevant, Why was the plane not shot down? Not one government lover can answer this, not one, they go off on perimeters and fly zones and 13 mile this, the question which will not go away is WHY WASN'T IT SHOT DOWN???
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
Why do you think it was so easy to shot down? the order to kill the passengers and crew, not to mention the civilians on the ground ... a shot down over a populated area may be worse the letting an unknown go forward -- that's assuming the opion to shot it down exisisted. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to give that order? the only known shot down of a passenger jet in history is the Soviet shot down of the Korean flight during the cold war
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 I'm just feeling you out, I am jusy seeing how far gone you are and if there is anyroom for compromise. I do this with all the government fairy tale lovers who buy this absolute childish fantasy as fact. Dude there are a millions of holes in the governments fairy tale and this is why no debunkers ever show up to 911 symposiums across the country, they know they will be destroyed by real facts that they could never rebutt. That's why your kind hide behind a keyboard, no risk!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
what a load of shit --the truth movement is a bunch of teenagers and conspiracy nuts --- half are just ant-jew or anti establishment
anytime you want a real argument, come to JREF forum
debunkers hound truthers in all ways --- when has the truth movement done a damn thing of note?
you may as well be a Holocaust denier or flat Eather
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 I feel sorry for you, one last question, it's retorical but are you a Christian?
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
Are you a brain in a jar?
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 I climbed out of the jar years ago, ahhh freedommmmmmmmmmm...
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
Good for you, and good you are a christian -- now if we could just get that truther mentality out of your brain
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 Man it's a sad world when the people who long for the truth are vilified and labelled kooks, and those who lie and decieve are seen as heros and normal, no wonder Jesus said in the later days in shall be like the days of Noah, they were a hoard of lying, cheating, twisted, manipulating, pagans who lusted after every evil, and Noah who longed for truth was labelled a kook and nutcase, yeah sounds about par with our current world, very sad indeed!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
its more of a shame that you fell for the lies of the truth movement ... rather it should be called the half-truths and misrepresentation movement
Just curious, are you also a no planer? how about judy woods space beams? Mossad Ninja's planted the thermite no doubt ...
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 See this is where you so called debunkers fall apart. You catorgorize all of us in the same box, what one delusional nut case theory on 911 has you assume that we all believe and acknowledge that theory as truth, when this couldn't be the farthest thing from the truth. No intelligent truther I kow believes in space lazers or holograms or any nonesense like that. But you just like the media never acknowledge the scientist and egineers or architects with sound reasoning and cont..
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
Judy Woods is a Phd and is the space weapons guru who also claims there were no planes -- go to the "let's roll" forum and check out there crap -- they go so far as to claim the jumpers were animated. So yes, I do test the waters to see how looney the truther is. Its the price you pay for hanging with the crowd. Until someone of note steps forth, you will all be painted with the same brush.
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 LAST POST: You can't convince a slave that he is a slave if he won't acknowledge the chains around his legs. You are aither a paid shill, and from what we know there are thousands upon thousands on the internet who are actually paid to debunk they are told to get into lenthy drawn out debates with truthers and to never I mean never give in on their position no matter how convincing the truther's logic is or your just some kid in his parent's basement who still wets the bed and has
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
you know there are thousands of paid shills? Good lord, you are insane
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 what about the American Navy, who shot down a Iranian passanger plane, thinking that it was a fighter jet. Well that was U.S governments excuse anyway!
99BrownDog 7 months ago
@99BrownDog
It was not an intentional act, they were not firing on their own people and they were not shoting it down over an American city -- not the same
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@99BrownDog i might not be thinking of what you are...but i thought it was a russian plane? and then the US allowed russian to shoot down flight TWA800 instead?
MvPxBlackHawk 6 months ago
@Denierbud11 Think about it logically. To not shoot it down means the passengers will die, and it's target will be hit. To shoot it down means the passengers will die. "Over a populated area" is a null statement. What if it were heading for a school or a packed convention center? The casualties would be far greater if you let it reach it's target. The default position in the military is "Shoot it down", because in this nuclear age the risk of not doing so it too great.
skinzamen 5 months ago
@skinzamen
Since it never has happened before, the option to shoot would be extreme -- and over a populated area is not a 'null' statement. it is very much a factor
Denierbud11 5 months ago
there was no fuckin plane..wake up ppl..well, there was but it was a missile that hit the building...no question !
Emin7 7 months ago
More people showed up at ground zero to celebrate the death of Bin Laden than the truth movement has managed in its history, no matter how hard they tried
truthers have join flat earthers and holocaust deniers in society's dead ass pile
good luck JSS, your life has no meaning, America has spoken --- find a new life
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@Denierbud11 Then explain to us flat earthers why Dick Cheney let that plane come right in, why was it allowed to come in a crash into the building? This should be good!
Allanlegacy43 7 months ago
@Allanlegacy43
of course, you think the order to shot down a passenger jet over a city is routine --- when was the last time an order to shot down a passenger jet was issued? can you answer that?
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 As soon as the first plane hit the order should of been given to shoot the other 3. Now you tell me why it wasn't??, because at that very instant it will of been known that whoever was flying them planes where not messing around.
eyeswideopennimrod 7 months ago
@eyeswideopennimrod
How fucking ignorant -- when the first plane hit it was thought to have been an accident, the second impact woke everyone up --- how old are you? Do you not remember that day? You do not just issue orders to shoot down passenger jets!
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@Denierbud11 I take it your young angry and rather ignorant with your opening reply. There was a protacol already in place to deal with such incidents, apart from that the pentagon has a 13 mile no fly zone. Orders had been issued earlier to bypass that protacol and and order to stand down had been issued. So yes you do shoot down planes that refuse to change course or respond when requested. NORAD had been told to stand down. Please try to repond like an adult next time :)
eyeswideopennimrod 7 months ago
@eyeswideopennimrod
No, but you do show your ignorance and how you believe everything you read on truther sites
tell me smart ass -- how could the Pentagon have a 13 mile no fly zone when it is less than two miles from Reagon International Airport!! Oh Good, what an idiot you are!
Fuck are you stupid! Go troll some place for children
Denierbud11 7 months ago
@eyeswideopennimrod
there is no 13 mile no fly zone around the Pentagon -- its two miles from Reagan International Airport
Denierbud11 7 months ago
OCTers are constantly rebooting their arguments. i can't imagine how the Bin Laden raid and the aftermath must have rattled Denierbud's mind. Wait...the story is what? Wait...can somebody tell me what the real story is?
JSSTyger 8 months ago
@JSSTyger
Bin Laden is dead, how and why would that rattle anyone but a truther
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@Denierbud11 Bin Laden is dead, and the war is actually accelerating. If you don't connect those two dots you should drown yourself in a tub of shit.
skinzamen 5 months ago
How is this proof of an inside job? He said that planes were scrambled to intercept Flight 77, but were 10 minutes out still. There was no stand down order , otherwise these planes would have stayed at Langley.
FutureUSMC12 8 months ago
@FutureUSMC12
They waited to scramble the jets. Nobody is clear on what the jets were scrambled for. What is clear is that an order was given before the plane was 50 miles out and this order had to wait and wait until it was 10 miles out. If the the order was to scramble jets, then we wouldn't have needed to wait till 10 miles out. The order was most certainly a stand down and our military guy was growing concerned as it approached so he asked if the stand down was still in effect.
JSSTyger 8 months ago
@JSSTyger
jSS, WOW, still truthing even after every argument you tried got palmed at JREF == truthers are great, no amount of evidence will change you from your course
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@Denierbud11
Whats so special about JREF?
"Palmed"? Really? Which argument did you "palm"? How was it "palmed"?
Still denying?
"No amount of evidence will change you from your course."
You mean like the thermitic material that was found but NIST didn't test for?
I laugh at you guys cuz all you do is hang on NIST's nuts. I remember clearly how dumbfounded you guys were when NIST admitted free fall. of WTC 7 in 2008. You had to reboot your entire argument.
JSSTyger 8 months ago
@JSSTyger
Jref is the place where truthers hopes are dashed
I recall clearly ever argument you tried failed, just as your arguments here will fail
Denierbud11 8 months ago
So the transportation secretary was not in on the conspiracy?
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@Denierbud11 Norman Mineta was not in charge when 9/11 happened. Dick Cheney removed all powers from the generals during this time and made all of it go through him. No shoot down of planes unless he said so.
Flt. 77 did not hit the building, it had to stay in the air to fool people that the Pentagon was hit. In reality they blew it up, the section that was blown up was "recently renovated" against "bomb blasts" surprisingly.
w w w . c i t i z e n i n v e s t i g a t i o n t e a m . c o m
MrAmbrister 8 months ago
Maybe, just maybe, Norman Mineta is lieing!
watch?v=32Btkj9_59g
Or maybe dick can be in 2 places at one time!
CNN911Fakes 8 months ago
None of the fighter jets scrambled went over 600 mph. The top speed of the F-15 is 1584mph, the top speed of the F-16 is 1320mph.
rickcain2320 9 months ago
@rickcain2320 Before and during 9/11, supersonic flight was prohibited on interception.
FutureUSMC12 8 months ago
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"By any means necessary, we must first convince the dumb-massez to continue to believe that a plane hit the Twin Towers on 9-11" -The Unknown Conspirator
FOBmzunguREPTILICUS 9 months ago
the report is very long (585 pages)!!!!!
lsteer100 9 months ago
This si fucking retarded
ak2304 10 months ago
what? hear, hear!
njuf9 10 months ago
Wait. So they knew a plane was heading toward the Pentagon, yet they didn't evacuate it? Government fail.
kidkong584 10 months ago
@kidkong584 Not fail. Obviously Cheney should have ordered a shoot down, if it was being tracked. The plane hit a side of the building well away from Rumsfeld's office (he was there) or what would create maximum death, hitting the TOP of the building on the other side, which would have made an easier crash landing than what actually happened. Occam's Razor be damned.
DarthKazi 9 months ago
@DarthKazi Yes, I know that. I'm saying that he knew that a plane was heading towards the Pentagon from when it was 60 miles out. However, they didn't even try to get ANYONE out of the Pentagon. NO ONE should have died in the Pentagon.
kidkong584 9 months ago
@kidkong584 Allegedly they only knew it was 50 miles out from DC. I assume, if you are to believe they were not "in on it", they didn't know what it was going to hit. Mineta was interviewed later and and stated the White House was being evacuated when he arrived to meet in the bunker underneath. People were running out of the building as they arrived. Mineta also claimed they only had radar blips of the plane since the transponder was shut off. Whatevs...
DarthKazi 9 months ago
This is the smoking Gun, Dick Cheney was encharge that Day of Norad. So why didn't those planes get taking down, protecting more lives? ..Dick and Bush had an agenda, and then IRAQ was another lie, we have a pattern here folks!
SwaggerLikeUz 10 months ago
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SwaggerLikeUz 10 months ago
I've had like 100 times where in my head I'm like. This proves it, 9/11 was an inside job no doubt.. I only wish 99 of those times it was other people and not me
skinnydiprog3r 10 months ago
Lee Hamilton: "...but there very clearly was an order to shoot down the commercial aircraft"
Norman Mineta: "subsequently, I found that out." This is exactly why its very important to speak of things in the correct context.
nofxmike06 10 months ago
LOL 9/11 was funny
lolomg69aids 10 months ago
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wkbfutewc 10 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal How can you be so naive and actually ignorant of American National Defense Rules :
The 9/11 commission released the tape of the "SHOOT DOWN ODER" from the vice President on the Pennsylvania Plane. IT IS ON THE RECORD and was played on National TV years ago. How ever Our Government lied by stating that this order arrived too late and that the plane did crash before. a former NSA
employee confirmed (not officially) that the plane was indeed shot down in Pennsylvania.
reykool 1 year ago
@blackjerryboymetal WHAT KIND OF IGNORANT ARE YOU ? WATCH THE VIDEO ! What did our transportation secretary SAID ? a man was asking Dick Cheney if we had to "Intercept" the plane approaching
which he refused to DO . ONLY the Presidential plane and US military planes have a special " Friendly Signal" to allow them to fly by the Pentagon EVERY OTHER aircraft trigger a "DEFENSE SYSTEM" which will send Jet planes to intercept and shoot it down IF NECESSARY D Cheney stopped the process
reykool 1 year ago
Now that the CIA merc, killer for hire Davis has been captured in Pakistan, he's singing like a canary, telling that he was giving nuclear weapons material to CIA fronts, like the phony 'al CIA Duh.'
We've been lied to since 9/11, all to support 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' and give our corrupt government an excuse to turn the USA into a police state.
Anyone who still believes it was 19 Ayyyrabs, led by a man dying from kidney disease 12,000 miles away is just an Israeli shill.
LeseMajeste 1 year ago
Imagine being someone 86'd on that plane when it didn't even hit the pentagon. What a criminal government.
thecoolerstinger 1 year ago
Look away all you deniers that the Government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks. THE TRUTH MAY HURT YOUR COWARDLY EARS! Take comfort in the lil book titled the 9/11 Commission whom 60% of the commission members admittedly stated was a bunch of BS. Facts hurt, reality is harsh. I'm sorry the government doesn't love you. The dream is over wake up, or sit back down like the mindless programed robot you are. There is more to life then EAT, FUCK, SHIT. Be strong, face the truth. Peace.
SunnyLovetts 1 year ago
Powerful testimony... Dick Cheney gave a stand down order on 9-11 and let the plane hit the Pentagon!
khalira 1 year ago
what happened to the plane? the impact was from a missile of some sort... but the plane went overhead and somewhere else... never been found.
ShamrockGrowth 1 year ago
The White House and the Commision report claims that Mineta was talking about flight 93, which they claim was shot down in Penn. They have stated that the plane was at most 60 miles out, possibly 10 miles out. Yet Shanksville is 127 miles from Washington. Was it teleported 100 miles to be shot down? Obviously the White House and Commision were scrambling and conspired to discredit Mineta.
jimmywalter 1 year ago
@jimmywalter 1) They dont claim it was shot down. 2) they didnt have a radar track on it, they were tracking it based on time and speed on a plotting board. So, without any confirmation that the plane did crash, they were still proceeding to track it inbound.
You can thank me later.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Radar worked a long time before radar transponders were invented. Taking a transponder out of an aircraft does not render it invisible, and the blips are not sorted out my eye, but by supercomputer. The assertion that removing the transponder was the critical factor in masking these flights is ludicrous.
skinzamen 5 months ago
@skinzamen No shit, skinhead. But the Radar used by ATC does NOT (unless near a TCA) pick up low-flying aircraft. Which is why 77 was essentially lost until of popped up on the KDCA local ATC radar.
Further, idiot, when a transponder goes out, the AT Controller relies on coordination with the crew to establish its position, and THEN it can be tracked visually.
Class dismissed.
EdgemanLL2 5 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 So you're telling me the only defence America has against airborne attack is the radar at the ATC? Those thousands of satellites, all that GPS technology, and God alone knows what else... None of that is employed by the Pentagon. Oh no. Especially after the Cold War and the constant threat of an airborne nuke. A jet couldn't fly over Saddam without him knowing, yet you seem to assert that America's defences are sloppy or it's tech outdated. Are you retarded?
skinzamen 5 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 And after the cold war and the constant threat of a stealthy air delivered nuclear payload, the ONLY thing that the U.S. has to defend it's airspace is the Radar at the ATC. No satellites, no sonic locators, no GPS. The Pentagon is still using a telescope and a slingshot. Well done. You're retarded.
skinzamen 5 months ago
@skinzamoron Only problem here is that 1) Commercial jets arent stealthy, 2) they dont (and didnt on 911) deliver nuclear payloads, and 3) the US DOES use Satellites to track planes entering the ADIZ, and 4) to the extent that Norad was concerned with threats from planes delivering a nuke payload, its focus was polar routes which would result in many hours of warning before a decision need be made.
Your brain couldnt fill a shot glass. Well done. Fuxing moron. ::points and laughs::: LOLOL
EdgemanLL2 5 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 The U.S. Is the most technologically advanced and militarily powerful nation in the world. I love how debunkers assume they know what goes through high commands head. The polar routes went out the window with the fall of the Soviets, idiot. The U.S. watches everyone now. You are still basing your claims on the assertion that the U.S. could not defend itself against a small, badly trained strike force that it, the U.S., knew was there for some time before they struck. Aren't you?
skinzamen 5 months ago
@skinzamen "I love how debunkers assume they know what goes through high commands head."
I love how fuxing RETARDS like you do EXACTLY that (Duhhh, they were stood down! I know it cuz I can read minds! I dont have a fuxing mind of my own! Im skinzamoron! But can read other peoples minds!) then whine about others.
I, on the other hand, dont need to know whats "on their minds." the mission and role of NORAD as originally constituted is well know to anyone nor a moron like you. lololol
EdgemanLL2 5 months ago
@EdgemanLL2 Read my comments and quote me where I said they were stood down. You assert that America's defence is full of holes, I say it's not the case. And I simply don't understand your last remark because you can't communicate your point effectivley. I'm going to cut and paste here:
You are still basing your claims on the idea that the U.S. could not defend itself against a small, badly trained strike force that it, the U.S., knew was there for some time before they struck. Aren't you?
skinzamen 4 months ago
@skinzamoron "Read my comments and quote me where I said they were stood down. "
OK, so agree there was no stand down, and kooks LIED when they said there was.
EdgemanLL2 4 months ago
Finally Government insiders are starting to talk about the 9/11 being an inside Job :
Check on Google or other research engine the following Title :
" CIA ASSET SUSAN LINDAUER BLOWS THE WHISTLE ON 9/11"
reykool 1 year ago 10
@reykool Look up
Alan Sabrosky PhD, former Director of Studies at the Army War College on "The Ugly Truth" podcast.
Watch 9/11 Missing Links.
Bush and company were just the accomplices.
1776Matthew 1 year ago
@1776Matthew I agree but this video demonstrates that American Zionists inside the Bush administration (PNAC members & in this case Zionist Neo con Dick Cheney) were behind it WHO GAIN ?NOT 19 dead Arabs NOT Afghanistan NOT Iraq NOT the CIA / ISI created Al Qaeda.ONLY those who UNFORTUNATELY shape our Middle Eastern policies The Israeli Lobby and their Arab haters Likud Party Bosses. & also our Military Intel security industrial complex who are making Billions out of their phony War on Terror
reykool 1 year ago
@reykool actually the secretarys entire testimony was scrubbed from the final report.
pfog 10 months ago
@reykool There was no stand down order on 9-11. Try getting soem facts before you post stuff and make youreslef look stupid. Maybe you can't help it lol
Kyles45Angel 7 months ago
@Kyles45Angel You're right, the U.S. air defence is so useless it can't stop a man with a boxcutter. Do you feel safer now?
skinzamen 5 months ago
@skinzamen NORAD has nothing to do with stopping a guy with a box cutter. If you did some research on what NORAD does you might post something worth my time. .
Kyles45Angel 5 months ago
@Kyles45Angel I said the U.S. Air defence, comprising of all instruments and organizations that can help defend the U.S.'s sky. Norad is one, sure. Once a man with boxcutters hijacks a jet, he is totally NORAD's responsibility. That the FAA didn't report till too late is untrue... the transcripts are out . The official story still asserts that a poorly trained strike force that the U.S. knew about carried out a successful operation right under the state's nose. I still say bullshit.
skinzamen 5 months ago
@skinzamen Your opinion after 10 years of thinking what should have happened means nothing. You forgot to mention the planes we supposed to be in the airspace they were in. They were mixed in with 4000 other planes in the same airspace. This hijacked planes were alss on secondary radar. What did you propse NORAD do? Shoot them down? Look up the last time the US shot down a hijacked plane.
Kyles45Angel 5 months ago
If you don't know that 9/11 was a conspiracy, LIES are out there, BUT good information too. FACTS,SCIENCE,TESTIMONY (see this video ),
9/11 plot is the most documented crime in world history, enough is out there to send dozens of current and former government officials,military officers to prison. IF U HAVE NOT BEGUN THE PATH TOWARD LEARNING THE TRUTH OR ARE UNWILLING TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE WHILE OTHERS DIE FOR A LIE YOU HOLD YOUR MANHOOD CHEAP
MLK a dream forgotten awaiting rebirth by G Duff
reykool 1 year ago
"why weren't the Pentagon, Capitol building and White House evacuated" - Whitehouse was evacuated. Others were not because they had no idea where flight 77 was actually going to hit
cjnewson88 1 year ago
@cjnewson88
Where the fuck do you think the plane is going to hit? The pentagon is one of the most important targets for anyone looking to inflict damage on our infrastructure. Of course it should have been evacuated. It's a no brainer!
rtaghavi 1 year ago
@Reytard You can whine about ME all you want to. But youre a pussified, cowardly little bitch who cant even hit "reply" because not ONLY am I so effective, you shit your pants in fear at the thought of facing me directly. =]
Edge wins, Treason Loses. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 You are trying WAY to hard to be butch. I knew you were femme the first time I read your writing. Maybe you can have a femme-to-butch change operation? Nope, I don' t think they can do that. To bad for you. I'll bet my last dollar you're a little narrow shouldered little pencil neck who got beat up on the playground.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
@Skeptard. youre trying way to hard to get into my pants.
Sorry, Im straight.
Still pissed that you had to admit your "compartmentalization" bullshit was bullshit? LMAO!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@reytard. You can whine all about my comments being empty. But youre such a pussy you cant even face me directly. PROVING not only am I effective. But that you shit ur pants in fear over me. =]
Edge wins. Treason loses! =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago