Mt 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Joh 11:27 ..., Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Does anyone understand that Jesus is the SON of God, Not God! Remember too that Jesus had a mother, Mary. Jesus Christ had a God, His Father!
1Co 8:6* But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1Ti 2:5* For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Ga 3:20* Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. Oneness doctrine is wrong because it says the Son is God the Father. If Jesus were God he would have to be the Father. Trinitarians are wrong for calling the Son, God the Son.
-The Son has a beginning: Pro 8.22-30 (God has never been without wisdom). The Son is not the Father, but he is ANOTHER HIMSELF of the ONE that is the Father (a double): Luke 6.12; John 14.9a “I”, “Me”; the Holy Spirit too: Ro 8.27; John 14.16 “OTHER”.
-Le fils a un début: Pro 8.22-30 (Dieu n'a jamais été sans sagesse). Le Fils n'est pas le Père, mais il est UN AUTRE LUI-MÊME de CELUI qui est le Père (double): Luc 6,12; Jn 14.9a "JE", "M'AS"; le Saint-Esprit également: Ro 8,27; Jn 14,16 "AUTRE".
bro william Branham said that both trinity and oneness are BOTH WRONG!
he said when you get it between oneness and trinity you will get it just exaclty
some of the in between terminology that he used was Jesus was a Dual person, Father and Son were inseperable or yoked together.
God and Christ were in divine fellowship. that is why when Jesus said I have sat down with my Father on His throne yet John only saw ONE sitting upon the throne
that was the humility of Christ Jesus (the Word) from the beginning! gen 1:26 let US create man in OUR image, and OUR likeness. we were supposed to have that humilty from the beginning, but our deeds were evil! ohhhh but John 3:16 God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life. thank you! mmmm God is good, the trinity gets me going, wooo! i love you all god bless.
although being in the form of God, he considered equality with God not something to be grasped. this is the humility of Christ Jesus ( the Word ) bless his holy name! he set the examples for us bc we aren't supposed to think we our equal to God, thats idolatry, not even Christ Jesus thought he was equal with God, and he was God. the trinity is so deep and is amazing how it relates to us human beings. if God is love, who did he love in the beginning?
first and foremost callofanti-christ; in Mathew 28:19 when Jesus gave the command all 12 apostles were present so if what Peter said in acts2:38 at least 1 of the 11 would of said something. in Luke 24:44-47 Jesus came back from the dead, he then opened their understanding that they may understand the scriptures.and that repentance and remissions should be preached in his NAME.get it?BAPTISM!REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED EVERYONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.very simple
There is no contradiction to the clear words of Scripture when you understand what Jesus said. Look at acts 2. Why would Peter say to be baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Spirit (not receive Jesus) if there was not some important distinction? Unitarians turn the Bible into word games, yet the Bible is clear that there is a reason and meaning to those distinctions! God is one being and Unitarians say that Jesus was the Father and the Son reversing the person-Being distinction.
@ronhanish Your problem is that you're ASSUMING unitarianism. You're ASSUMING that since there is only 1 God, That it must be 1 Person. The bible disagrees with your ASSUMPTION. There is only 1 God (Deut 6:4) but this God is 3 distinct persons.(John 15:26) Believe the word.
@ October31st1517 notice that ronhanish cannot answer the issue in the segment but has to switch to another one? This is a proble with Unitarians... they say blanket statements loosely based on Scripture, but never get to the core issue.
Matthew 28:19-20 (King James Version) 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Unitarians are in opposition to Jesus own words by pitting events in Acts versus the actual command of Jesus Himself. Also, they turn baptism into a work with a specific formula FOR salvation.
ooh namecalling! how Christian. You seem to do that a lot.
In that passage the rules of Greek demand that when Jesus said in teh name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit that it refer to 3 sepererate persons. Did u even watch these vids you comment on? I doubt ti, because that was covered already as was everything else you say here. you are looking more uninformed and misguided the more you post.
@ronhanish Almost every Bible scholar, Oneness and Trinitarian alike, agree that these (Matt. 28:19) were not the accual words of Jesus. Most say that the original Greek text read more along the lines of:
“Go and make disciples of all the nations (some add ‘baptizing them…’) in my name, teaching them to observe all things I have commanded you.”
@ronhanish jesus said the father is greater than I, jesus never said hes was God, on the jesus said at John 5:18, 19 he cannot do anything by his own initiative. he also said why do you call me good. Rev 3:12 jesus reffered the father Jehovah as his God 5 times, he was no longer in the flesh when mentioned these words. jesus also said that he does not know the day or the hour well wait a minute he is either God or hes not, there is no such thing as" in between". do you want a thousand more quot
@ronhanish jesus said the father is greater than I, jesus never said hes was God, on the jesus said at John 5:18, 19 he cannot do anything by his own initiative. he also said why do you call me good. Rev 3:12 jesus reffered the father Jehovah as his God 5 times, he was no longer in the flesh when mentioned these words. jesus also said that he does not know the day or the hour well wait a minute he is either God or hes not, there is no such thing as" in between". do you want a thousand more quo?
God is Spirit ,He became man,to save men...we r created in the image of God,if u aint a trinity ,neither is God...in the days of His flesh,HEBREWS 5:7...FLESH has to pray because its weak,,,thus Jesus prayed
Jesus is the express image of the invisible Spirit of God ... in the flesh.... created by the Spirit ...to be a SON for redemptive purposes...there never was a flesh of God in heaven until Jesus was born here ,,right ,, GAL. 4:4 says... "made of A woman ,"
the Father always was in Jesus ,Father means the Eternal Spirit of God ,,,,in the temporal flesh of man,,,,ie son of man ,,,Son of God,,,Jewish teachings of Messiah means Spirit of God embodied,,,
(Col 2:8 KJV) "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
(Col 2:9 KJV) "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
(Col 2:10 KJV) "And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:"
the fullness of the Godhead ,,,everything that God is,,,,dwells in the Christ ,,,this is why deciples didnt baptize in titles of Math..28:19 ,,,,cause they kwew who Jesus was!!!
Jesus was the Father before He became the son,,,,now that He is a son,,, He still is the Father also,,,at the same time ,,,see,,,its so easy to see,,,,perfect harmony with scripture
(2 Cor 5:19 KJV) "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."
this whole segment just shows the heretical double-talk and non-scriptural doctrines Steve holds to.
He tries to restrain Mark at the end from answering his question based on a verse number and we know it was not written like that and you MUST proceed to the logical conclusion of Jesus statement regardless of the # of the verse! This proves how Steve cherry picks OUT OF CONTEXT to support his own opinions and does not hold to the full statement of Jesus as He is speaking here. LET JESUS TALK
the logical conclusion is to believe scriptures ,,, it reveals Jesus as God,,, even if u dont understand how,,,ex,
(Isa 9:6 KJV) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: ..: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Steve again makes no sense. He ( the Father) will send another... So,what , as I understand oneness , the Son is saying, He (I) will send another ( manifestation?) This is all doubletalk and makes no sense. I go to my Father( I, The man, Go to myself, go to my spirit? Another oneness problem- The glory I had with the Father before the world began means what?- the glory I the thought, the foreshadow had with the spirit ? nonsense. stay true to context and the NATURAL meaning and you will know
Steve is going through great lengths to avoid understanding anything that is said from mark and then making something up out of nowhere as to what is being said.
The broad way and the narrow way, hmm. That the doctrine of the trinity is certainly the common broad viewpoint. But even if 99.9% agree with it, it still doesn't make it true if its not.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Love is the Father of us all, love is the Holy Spirit, love came in the flesh. Jesus Christ, ONE, is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
Ok, the Spirit of Truth that proceedeth forth from the Father. But what about in the Old Testament, when God appeared as a pillar of fire and the pillar of cloud? Were those manifestations distinct persons? Or when the LORD went out at midnight to smote the first-born of Egypt, which of the trinity was this?
@EndTimeDelusion You keep using that Scripture regarding the broad & narrow way out of context. JESUS is the WAY. Anything outside of Jesus is NOT the way. Straight is the way to God thru Christ, not thru the convoluted and winding stuff Steve is saying that doesn't even hold up to Scripture!
Steve is dabbling into the same outlandish accusations that the Watchtower casts at Trinitarianism. He simply cannot, and does not feel the need to understand it; he just wants to prove his point, regardless of how clear the Scriptures are. All he's proven up until now is his willful ignorance.
Mt 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Joh 11:27 ..., Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Does anyone understand that Jesus is the SON of God, Not God! Remember too that Jesus had a mother, Mary. Jesus Christ had a God, His Father!
cgmarlowe777 3 months ago
1Co 8:6* But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1Ti 2:5* For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Ga 3:20* Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. Oneness doctrine is wrong because it says the Son is God the Father. If Jesus were God he would have to be the Father. Trinitarians are wrong for calling the Son, God the Son.
cgmarlowe777 3 months ago
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wow this guy with the oneness of God is off the chart man way into a pit of lies ... satan is a deciever God rebuke Him
jehudeEli 4 months ago
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-The Son has a beginning: Pro 8.22-30 (God has never been without wisdom). The Son is not the Father, but he is ANOTHER HIMSELF of the ONE that is the Father (a double): Luke 6.12; John 14.9a “I”, “Me”; the Holy Spirit too: Ro 8.27; John 14.16 “OTHER”.
-Le fils a un début: Pro 8.22-30 (Dieu n'a jamais été sans sagesse). Le Fils n'est pas le Père, mais il est UN AUTRE LUI-MÊME de CELUI qui est le Père (double): Luc 6,12; Jn 14.9a "JE", "M'AS"; le Saint-Esprit également: Ro 8,27; Jn 14,16 "AUTRE".
BibleFrW 4 months ago
The Oneness guy doesn't get it because he's a modalist!!
brown547 7 months ago
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bro william Branham said that both trinity and oneness are BOTH WRONG!
he said when you get it between oneness and trinity you will get it just exaclty
some of the in between terminology that he used was Jesus was a Dual person, Father and Son were inseperable or yoked together.
God and Christ were in divine fellowship. that is why when Jesus said I have sat down with my Father on His throne yet John only saw ONE sitting upon the throne
dieselcowboy777 9 months ago
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religion = mental illness
luxfair 1 year ago
that was the humility of Christ Jesus (the Word) from the beginning! gen 1:26 let US create man in OUR image, and OUR likeness. we were supposed to have that humilty from the beginning, but our deeds were evil! ohhhh but John 3:16 God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life. thank you! mmmm God is good, the trinity gets me going, wooo! i love you all god bless.
VaiLaiho17 1 year ago
although being in the form of God, he considered equality with God not something to be grasped. this is the humility of Christ Jesus ( the Word ) bless his holy name! he set the examples for us bc we aren't supposed to think we our equal to God, thats idolatry, not even Christ Jesus thought he was equal with God, and he was God. the trinity is so deep and is amazing how it relates to us human beings. if God is love, who did he love in the beginning?
VaiLaiho17 1 year ago
first and foremost callofanti-christ; in Mathew 28:19 when Jesus gave the command all 12 apostles were present so if what Peter said in acts2:38 at least 1 of the 11 would of said something. in Luke 24:44-47 Jesus came back from the dead, he then opened their understanding that they may understand the scriptures.and that repentance and remissions should be preached in his NAME.get it?BAPTISM!REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED EVERYONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.very simple
Truthseeker424 2 years ago
There is no contradiction to the clear words of Scripture when you understand what Jesus said. Look at acts 2. Why would Peter say to be baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Spirit (not receive Jesus) if there was not some important distinction? Unitarians turn the Bible into word games, yet the Bible is clear that there is a reason and meaning to those distinctions! God is one being and Unitarians say that Jesus was the Father and the Son reversing the person-Being distinction.
callofchrist 2 years ago
UMM THE HOLY GHOST IS jESUS...
ronhanish 2 years ago
if u know and understand that Jesus is the mighty God,,, the almighty,,, u would be baptized in Jesus name,,,
thw apostles understood ,,, thats why they baptized in Jesus name only,,,they were Jesus only,,,
ronhanish 2 years ago
@ronhanish Your problem is that you're ASSUMING unitarianism. You're ASSUMING that since there is only 1 God, That it must be 1 Person. The bible disagrees with your ASSUMPTION. There is only 1 God (Deut 6:4) but this God is 3 distinct persons.(John 15:26) Believe the word.
October31st1517 2 years ago
@ October31st1517 notice that ronhanish cannot answer the issue in the segment but has to switch to another one? This is a proble with Unitarians... they say blanket statements loosely based on Scripture, but never get to the core issue.
callofchrist 2 years ago
@October31st1517
KEEP THE OTHER -2- just give me ----> JESUS
1Ti 3-16
2222pauline 8 months ago
Matthew 28:19-20 (King James Version) 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Unitarians are in opposition to Jesus own words by pitting events in Acts versus the actual command of Jesus Himself. Also, they turn baptism into a work with a specific formula FOR salvation.
callofchrist 2 years ago
UM,,,PSSSSTTT,,,it says baptize in the name,,,
mmmmm,,,, i wonder what the name is ????????? that He wants me to baptize in?????
MAYBE JESUS WAS TRYIN TO GET THE LAME BRAINS TO UNDERSTAND SOMEOF HIS TITLES ???MMMMMMMMM,,,
ronhanish 2 years ago
ooh namecalling! how Christian. You seem to do that a lot.
In that passage the rules of Greek demand that when Jesus said in teh name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit that it refer to 3 sepererate persons. Did u even watch these vids you comment on? I doubt ti, because that was covered already as was everything else you say here. you are looking more uninformed and misguided the more you post.
callofchrist 2 years ago
UMIT still says name!!!
ronhanish 2 years ago
@ronhanish Almost every Bible scholar, Oneness and Trinitarian alike, agree that these (Matt. 28:19) were not the accual words of Jesus. Most say that the original Greek text read more along the lines of:
“Go and make disciples of all the nations (some add ‘baptizing them…’) in my name, teaching them to observe all things I have commanded you.”
OneGodApostolic238 1 year ago
@ronhanish jesus said the father is greater than I, jesus never said hes was God, on the jesus said at John 5:18, 19 he cannot do anything by his own initiative. he also said why do you call me good. Rev 3:12 jesus reffered the father Jehovah as his God 5 times, he was no longer in the flesh when mentioned these words. jesus also said that he does not know the day or the hour well wait a minute he is either God or hes not, there is no such thing as" in between". do you want a thousand more quot
RAMIREZ3408 5 months ago
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@ronhanish jesus said the father is greater than I, jesus never said hes was God, on the jesus said at John 5:18, 19 he cannot do anything by his own initiative. he also said why do you call me good. Rev 3:12 jesus reffered the father Jehovah as his God 5 times, he was no longer in the flesh when mentioned these words. jesus also said that he does not know the day or the hour well wait a minute he is either God or hes not, there is no such thing as" in between". do you want a thousand more quo?
RAMIREZ3408 5 months ago
God is Spirit ,He became man,to save men...we r created in the image of God,if u aint a trinity ,neither is God...in the days of His flesh,HEBREWS 5:7...FLESH has to pray because its weak,,,thus Jesus prayed
ronhanish 2 years ago
@ronhanish
I see you have no idea what the term "image" means.
October31st1517 2 years ago
Jesus is the express image of the invisible Spirit of God ... in the flesh.... created by the Spirit ...to be a SON for redemptive purposes...there never was a flesh of God in heaven until Jesus was born here ,,right ,, GAL. 4:4 says... "made of A woman ,"
ronhanish 2 years ago
@ronhanish
So there was a time when Jesus was not the Father?
October31st1517 2 years ago
the Father always was in Jesus ,Father means the Eternal Spirit of God ,,,,in the temporal flesh of man,,,,ie son of man ,,,Son of God,,,Jewish teachings of Messiah means Spirit of God embodied,,,
ronhanish 2 years ago
(Col 2:8 KJV) "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
(Col 2:9 KJV) "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
(Col 2:10 KJV) "And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:"
ronhanish 2 years ago
the fullness of the Godhead ,,,everything that God is,,,,dwells in the Christ ,,,this is why deciples didnt baptize in titles of Math..28:19 ,,,,cause they kwew who Jesus was!!!
ronhanish 2 years ago
Jesus was the Father before He became the son,,,,now that He is a son,,, He still is the Father also,,,at the same time ,,,see,,,its so easy to see,,,,perfect harmony with scripture
(2 Cor 5:19 KJV) "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."
ronhanish 2 years ago
this whole segment just shows the heretical double-talk and non-scriptural doctrines Steve holds to.
He tries to restrain Mark at the end from answering his question based on a verse number and we know it was not written like that and you MUST proceed to the logical conclusion of Jesus statement regardless of the # of the verse! This proves how Steve cherry picks OUT OF CONTEXT to support his own opinions and does not hold to the full statement of Jesus as He is speaking here. LET JESUS TALK
callofchrist 2 years ago
Amen. In fact, Steve claims that the "FORM OF GOD means God's physical body.
October31st1517 2 years ago
thats exactly what it means...
(Phil 2:6 KJV) "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
ronhanish 2 years ago
the logical conclusion is to believe scriptures ,,, it reveals Jesus as God,,, even if u dont understand how,,,ex,
(Isa 9:6 KJV) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: ..: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
The everlasting Father,
The everlasting Father,
ronhanish 2 years ago
Steve again makes no sense. He ( the Father) will send another... So,what , as I understand oneness , the Son is saying, He (I) will send another ( manifestation?) This is all doubletalk and makes no sense. I go to my Father( I, The man, Go to myself, go to my spirit? Another oneness problem- The glory I had with the Father before the world began means what?- the glory I the thought, the foreshadow had with the spirit ? nonsense. stay true to context and the NATURAL meaning and you will know
musicmusing 2 years ago
Jesus ALWAYS taught in parables so only the really hungry people would seek Him and Find Him,,,
(Mat 13:34 KJV) "All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:"
ronhanish 2 years ago
Steve is going through great lengths to avoid understanding anything that is said from mark and then making something up out of nowhere as to what is being said.
chriscox1121 2 years ago
No joke.
October31st1517 2 years ago
Does not Steve sound like he is preaching Mormon doctrine at 1:00?
October31st1517 2 years ago
@October31st1517 LOL I made a comment about that in the previous video haha
^5 for picking up on that
callofchrist 2 years ago
The broad way and the narrow way, hmm. That the doctrine of the trinity is certainly the common broad viewpoint. But even if 99.9% agree with it, it still doesn't make it true if its not.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Love is the Father of us all, love is the Holy Spirit, love came in the flesh. Jesus Christ, ONE, is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
EndTimeDelusion 2 years ago
Then you should have no problem accepting the doctrine of the trinity since the Lord Himself taught us this truth about God in John 15:26.
October31st1517 2 years ago
Ok, the Spirit of Truth that proceedeth forth from the Father. But what about in the Old Testament, when God appeared as a pillar of fire and the pillar of cloud? Were those manifestations distinct persons? Or when the LORD went out at midnight to smote the first-born of Egypt, which of the trinity was this?
EndTimeDelusion 2 years ago
@EndTimeDelusion You keep using that Scripture regarding the broad & narrow way out of context. JESUS is the WAY. Anything outside of Jesus is NOT the way. Straight is the way to God thru Christ, not thru the convoluted and winding stuff Steve is saying that doesn't even hold up to Scripture!
callofchrist 2 years ago
Steve is dabbling into the same outlandish accusations that the Watchtower casts at Trinitarianism. He simply cannot, and does not feel the need to understand it; he just wants to prove his point, regardless of how clear the Scriptures are. All he's proven up until now is his willful ignorance.
Hokabelle 2 years ago 2
where is part 10 of 12? or did I just completely miss it?
Choulapa87 2 years ago 2
I need to reupload. It will be up soon. My apologies.
October31st1517 2 years ago
Thanks, I watched the rest of it, really good series
Choulapa87 2 years ago