Im a student of aikido and its true the teachers can knock you down without touching you but its not like theyre blasting ki, ki is more like intention or something they just lead you around and take you off balance. if you watch closely he's leading them and hes all up in their grill making them fall. But this guy is good so hes probably just blasting ki. Did you see the very first guy? now that was ki blasting
This isn't fake. It's practice. They know that if they don't fall, they will get hurt, REALLY hurt. So don't say bullshit about something your little minds can't understand, because you look like a fool.
No me esperaba que Ueshiba al final también recurriera a los kames como tantos estafadores. No voy a perderle el respeto pero la verdad es que me ha defraudado bastante. De todas formas solo las 2 primeras técnicas son fake, en las últimas sí hay contacto y en clase he visto que sí es posible tirar a alguien de esa forma.
yes its fake at the moment I practice aikido they are going to teach you how to fall down.the student should pretend to fall down by their sensei movement.they justify that this just for you to feel the sence of motion or energi,
It's not spirit magic, or hypnotic suggestion: his students are afraid of him putting their hands on them. The strength in his arms was legendary. Uke knows that O-sensei knows the technique, and doesn't want to press the issue.
People are too wiling to be mystified by displays of qi, ka, whatever you call it. 'The Body Electric' a book by Robert O Decker which 'the government doesn't want you to read '(apparently;)) is a Western take on things which shows the body has polarity (not unlike the old Baihui/Hui Yin dynamic). i.e the body as a solenoid with 'field lines/lines of intent' (which teh old school MA'ists knew of). New Age is still a schlock up of true principles praying on those who can't think past thier noses.
When I say 'leading' we are also talking a fairly universal application. A boxer will 'lead' (i.e with his head) then slip/blend and enter at the right time. Not because he is guessing, but because he is connected/switched on/ feeling. Of course if you are the type of person who looks up at the stars at night and says 'ahh how they perform irimi tenkan before me' you won't notice this.
TBH people (artists, musicians, scientists,plumbers,sportsmen etc) are interacting with fields/matrix's (person/plant/animal/seen/unseen) all the time. Those with a higher level of ability at this were traditionally called 'shaman' and not one of them would say 'its all dolphins jumpin' through rainbows' out there. Nope, a lot of funny business goes on. By the by, the whole religious 'matrix' old or new is control (line em up, dress em up in a nice skirt/robe, opiate em down).
Who am to say that Ueshiba didnt have so much qi brewing inside that he just points his laogong at you and you fall over, and that the little thrust he does at 0:10 didn't nearly break every goddamn shoji screen in the building? Perhaps quite a few peole in Aikido should stay away from thinking like George Lucas (or worse a Ki Aikidoka) until they can do it themselves. I would suggest these guys are doing a word not in Trudy Styler's vernacular and 'faking it'. Can't resist a ribald joke sadly.
The type of 'Jedi' skill you are talking of is 'leading' energy. One way to think of this is to ceate a broken 'O' circuit with your arms (top view) as is seen in CMA styles. The circuit is not really broken because anergy is transmitting through the laogong (especially if you 'gather mind' here).Now create a bigger circuit connecting through another persons 'laogong' a la pattycake. W. eyes closed the connection will be there and you can pull/push the energy. This is the basis of 'leading'.
People practicing 'World Church of Ueshiba' Aikido (which is 100% of modern day Aikido), hold Ueshiba up as some kind of genius. For his day the idea of adding IP and other arts to Daito Ryu may have been ahead of the time in the cultural context, but this can be done by anyone. Some 'internals' added to a jiujitsu system or a weapons system (i.e Kali) will bump that system up.Aikido has become an excuse for already somatically challenged intellectuals to engage in oft silly mental peregrination
There are other issues, New Agers tend to try to pick up skills by osmosis with no gong fu/solo work, which may be possible to a point, but which leaves room for all types of fantasy (see above perhaps). Martial arts 'masters' of old may have been 'masters' of the 'chi body'. It sounds hard to express certain things without sounding LOTR, but there is knowledge beyond IP and this is where cultism operates, which is why you can get someone who martially is decent, but is a total douche otherwise.
I am not underestimating anything. I am just not impressed by these amazing tales. There are several issues. Firstly, we all have an energy body, lets get over that one. Secondly, some people may have a knack with manipulating it (thiers or others) Heiny and Ueshiba may be examples. But lets not hold these people up as gods. Remeber, a person who practices qi skills in a totally different way (yang, explosive i.e. boxer, xing yi) will pose a significant problem to these people.
They are falling over like "magic" because A. The were smart and new O Sensei threw HARD and B. Out of respect. No magic, just aikido. However, Aikido CAN look effortless when done well.
guys you keep saying that this is a fake but you can't prove that this is true you can't prove that this is fake either so...just spit your opinion without being so certain of what you say.
the level he archieved that time was extremely high, frankly im not surprised, earlier he never did anything like that , did he have any reason to come out fake like that and spoil everything that he has worked for till that moment? was he that stupid? i have my reasonable doubts.
@Mourne84 I doubt he was faking it. I just don't think it's actual ki prowess. I don't doubt he had great ki/qi skills, I just don't believe you can throw qi like in a video game, an anime or a wuxia. It's probably just some sort of hypnotic suggestion. His students are actually falling and all that, nobody's faking it, they just believe and so it works. Mind you, I do believe could still use his aikido skils.
I believe 'there are more things in heaven and earth, horatio etc etc' but that doesn't mean I want to jingle jangle with my hankerchief out (is morris dancing based on fighting? Maybe closer to Aikido than I thought). Most Aiki dancers dont want to get thier Jedi Aura(tm) dirty, so may suppliment training with a bit of Tai Chi, learning to bang the missus in upside down asana a la Sting, or aiki-similar. Rolling around on the Jedi-poisoning ground, or the like is just not 'loyal' enough.
@blacksashman lmao - good one. but don't underestimate the jedi shit. when mary heiny sensei had me attack her, it looked like this video. i remember thinking that i was about to grab her wrist, then suddenly trying not to land on my back. i never touched her. it wasn't some magical force that threw me; it was my own intent. she played me like a cat by staying just a hairsbreadth ahead of me. it was her timing. the great aikidoka have BOTH solid martial technique AND the jedi mind shit.
I remeber watching a documentery about Cambodians doing some truely horrific things (sorry to New Agers to whom it is uncool to talk about teh bad chi's) in loyalty to 'Angka'. People who are loyal to New Ageism (and I believe when Ueshiba said 'Aiki' he often ment Oomoto New Agery) and morris dance for thier leader are similar (Miligram experiment anyone?) What happened to being loyal to your self?
it makes one wonder do we ever truly get hit or do we allow others to connect with us, regrdless i see that these individuals want to be moved by him concious or not.
@Tonlondong Most of the time we allow others to connect. I realised this a while back when I did some sparring with a friend. I was so determined to hit him I was always making sure I was at the correct distance to get hit myself. Every attack creates an opening, if you wait for them to make the opening and the enter in everything becomes much easier.
So, in this sense, knowledge is a form of power, and esoteric knowledge is no different. More glibly, even if someone grasps the 'conditions' for the manifestation of certain phisical skills, I doubt whether on a Maslowian kind of chart, their new found ability should even feature. Certainly plain old 'kindness' 'thinking for oneself' and 'taking a stand against injustice' would be exponentially higher. I doubt I am saying anything new. Avoid Aquarian nonsense.
Lets put it another way, just as money can be focused into the hands of a few if enough people let it, so can 'knowledge'. If one day the art of , say wine fermentation, was taken away and kept within some select wineries, people would start to attribute incredible stories and far out BS to the feeling of intoxication. Much like a wine, the manifestation of which may rely on certain conditions, so it is with some energy phenomenon.
Not strictly true, but calling something BS is somehow more honest then encyclopedic middle class New Age pontifications on mystical powers. Aiki/physical ethric/internal power, whatever you call it ,which can take many forms, is VERY far from being 'new' and, of course, the New Ager is fascinated by the 'strange, spooky feeling powers'. I use the metaphor of feeding poisoned rice to a starving child in how New Agers clamour around these phenomena in cults.
What can be known, without getting too beardy weirdy, is that Omooto and Aikido have Aquarian roots, which is something that requires not ancient, mystical breathing techniques to undertand, but simple use of google lite. Although not inclined towards Buddhism, the Mahayana school talks of 'gradual awakening'. If there is a nugget of truth to this, I mearly think that percieving and avoiding the Satanic is part of this. You and others may be aware of the trap, but I wonder how many are not.
It is my 'sense' that parts of the Bible (remember the original versions were in Arameic, Hebrew etc) are so sophisticated and criptic, that they at times point to slightly 'lock him up and throw away the key' facts about reality. More prosaically, as your faith may be quite succinct about the New Age, it may be hard to elaborate on specific techniques, other faiths call it the temptation of Shaityan, the demonic realm, the devil, most Christians are at least aware of being led astray.
Finally, in attempting to presage your response, you may repeat YOUR Aikido and YOUR Christianity has none of these elements. Really, I can only say, considering how few people are even aware of the insideous influence of these things, people should avoid Aquarian Cultism (and Christian Sectarianism) altogether (unless they find your dojo perhaps;))
@blacksashman There are FAR too many Christians caught up in frivolous things of faith and dogma. It only divides the church and provides ammunition for enemies of the church.
What elements of New Age philosophy are you talking about? I am not even sure what you mean specifically. You have never even elaborated on this. You have only made vague references and accusations so far. Please give a specific example of a new age practice.
@Deke101@Deke101 I do have sympathy with aspects of the Christian plight. The Bible mentions that even its own message will be corrupted, in a 'history (and religion) is written by the victors' fashion, which has proven to be true (book of Rev I believe). Actually, there are some parts of the Bible that can only be described as prophetic in understanding the New Age, 'the prince of this world' and 'the harbinger of light'.
My experience of New Agism is, like panning for precious metals in a quarry of fools gold, of course you MAY find some nuggets of truth amongst the rubble, this is intelligent design, not accident (wouldn't be a very effective movement otherwise). I assume you are someone who is content with those nuggets or, less likely, you have panned enough where you find gold (twenty year throws is still BS). Nonetheless, I have yet to meet a New Ager with anything more than a pyrite filled pocket.
@blacksashman I find New Age philosophy to be more like a wolf in sheep's clothing. It does not wait for you to pan for it. It comes for you in many disguises. There is only one philosophy in Christianity and that is Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light. Everything else is fluff that can be hijacked by new age spiritualism. My church and my dojo are kept seperate. If I ever mention Christianity in my dojo, I risk alienating those who are not Christian, therefore, no religion in the dojo.
Anyhow Deke, good luck to you. I will not be visiting any Aikido dojo soon because, as mentioned, I was involved in quite a bit of New Age garbage a few years back, including Aikido. Unfortunately, like the switching on of a light switch, the lies that had been in the background rose up in consciousness, and it could not be ignored. I am not taking any high ground. I have said, I believe peace, awakening, what have you, to be everyones birthright. I will leave the ego games to New Age cults. Bye
You can say what you want about conspiracy theory, this is not a bleeding heart liberal rant about military industrial complexes, nor is it paranoia, but almost everyone at this time, unless they live in a rainbow coloured bubble, is affected by what is happening in the world, often quite directly. Is humanity something they discouraged in the military too? Are all the breaking down and speaking out veterans like we see in the video posted just conspiacy nuts also?
I will repeat, Aikido is a New Age form of budo, watered down brainwashing cult nonsense (note: I am not talking about dissolving the self, ego, techninque in stillness or 'being like water', but as in not very good). Read all the 'Aquarian Conspiracy' you want, not much good if you can't sniff out a dud.
@blacksashman Oh, I believe I have 'sniffed out the dud' quite successfully. I know it is fun to think you are some kind of crusader with some sense of insight above others. It's classic amongst conspriacy theorists like yourself. I simply don't have time right now to deal seriously with your silliness, so I will just bid you good luck on 'uncovering' whatever you hope to find. Might I suggest you actually visit a dojo or two and actually ask a question or two in person?
As with subject of the video I have posted, and there are many more moving videos of this nature, understanding what I am saying may involve perceptual, experiential and intellectual shifts, just quoting 'who said what to whom' does not go deep enough. Oomoto, the 'pet philosophy' of Ueshiba is a New Age/NWO front (See Oomoto website 'appeal for a world crisis'). Few people understand the interelatedness of New Age spiritualism and politics.
@blacksashman No, An intellectual shift is not needed to understand what you are saying. An intellectual and perceptual shift IS needed to buy into the paranoia you are selling. I will agree that Omoto WAS new age philosophy, as are many other philosophies that have sprung up over the years. I DO NOT PRACTICE OMOTO. There is NO religion in any dojo I have visited or practice in. There is NO mention of it in any seminars, camps, groups, or gatherings. Bye, now.
@Deke101 Sorry Deke, likewise I do not have the time to deal with your predictable repostes. If you are looking for 'crusades', I would look no further than the neo-crucadism which may have been spoonfed to you in boot camp. Like many New Agers, you use terms like 'free will' with little discernment, like many New Agers you lack the courage to look truth in the eye. Do you really believe that anyone would harness thier 'free will' to send a missile through an innocent families home, a school?
@blacksashman HAH! You have no time to deal with my predictability, so you will instead fire your own salvo of predictability at me. LOL! Well done. Once again, you prove my point that you know not of which you speak when it comes to the military. I am not surprised. You would probably not last a day in the life, anyway. I don't really care if you visit a dojo to get REAL info or not. You are clearly a lost cause. Toodles.
@Deke101 Making speculative retorts on how I would fare in a career that I did not choose, whilst avoiding the real issues, is fairly pointless, and I never sought to undermine the individuals involved in such a life (of whom I can count friends and family). I doubt very much you would last a day in what I do either. Anyway, ego games aside, you seem to spend a lot of time trying to debunk what I and many others say. Why not let people make up thier own minds?
@blacksashman Exactly. Speculating on what goes on in a dojo without visiting one firsthand is equally pointless. Let people make up their OWN minds. Let them visit a dojo and decide for themselves. Something you have stated you will not do. I spend time debunking MANY falsehoods about things which I have firsthand knowledge of.
@Deke101 Maybe you didn't read the part where I said I have been in (many an) Aikido dojo as well as other groups propagating New Age ideas. I didn't say people can't go to an Aikido dojo. I am highlighting what the New Age is, how it operates and how Oomoto and Aikido are part of it, people can do what they will with that info. Dont believe in this 'Satanic Aquarian Age' stuff, fine, let my comments go into the ether. Some people may want to look beyond New Age cult dogma, however.
@blacksashman Perhaps YOU did not read the part where I said I KNOW the New Age movement exists in all it's aspects. I keep an eye out for any and all things Satanic. I am simply telling you that New Age philosophy is not practiced where I teach, nor in any dojo I have been in. We do NOT worship old men or ANY men for that matter. You speak of abuse and elusive dogma that does not exist. Me practising Aikido makes me Omoto no more than practicing Karate makes me Shinto.
@Deke101 Yes, you did mention this. I have met few people more vigilant than Christians, yet most of what I see in Christianity these days leads towards a combination of sectarianism contasted with heady eucamencalism and interfaith ideology. This seems very positive, but so does Omoto/Aikido New Agism on a very surface level. I should point out that New Age spiritualism, 'The Light', NWO Aquarian spirituality, whatever you call it, needs no specific worship or docterine to disseminate.
Aikido is watered down budo for the New Age. Ueshiba could be considered an avatar for something ('The light' as it is know in Satanism), which could be considered a form of power . Noone said the demonic wasn't charasmatic, even holy to those of weak mind and will. Wake up to the New Age deception.
@blacksashman OMG. You reall have nothing better to do, do you? You know, after twenty years, I think I would have uncovered SOME kind of clue as to what you are on about. There is not one shred of worship that goes on in ANY dojo I have entered. O' Sensei was said to have been ANGERED whenever people implied that he should be treated as a messiah. Saotome Sensei was asked what he knew about gods of Aikido and his reply was, "What the heck are you talking about?"
@Deke101 On the contrary, I have much better things to do then post on these videos. Denial is a strong force and 'uncovering' seems not to be one of your strong points. How long were you a GI joe coming off the production line? (a pertinent image from a former conversation we had, see my channel). The irony is that those who get in to New Age cults, professing everything from egolessness to heightened awareness, could not be more ensnared in faux awakening, delusion and ego.
@blacksashman (sigh) Still at this pointless argument, I see. I was a soldier for ten years because I chose to be. You know, free will? Contrary to belief you CAN get out of military service ANY time you wish if you know what you are doing. I also have chosen to practice martial arts (several of them) of my own free will. I continue to do so because I find it rewarding. The only delusion I see here is yours.
Not really a question of East vs West (Does Aikido represent the East?-Not really if you understand its roots) and I have already covered how I come to my beliefs , I have also before expressed notions from texts such as Huangdi Neijing, Taijiquan Jing and so on. The classical texts are always much more relevant that (Satanic) New Age Shit like Aikido. But essentially, the 'gateway' to understanding energetic phenomena has always been 'stillness', absolute stillness of body and of mind.
was Ueshiba Satanic ? Interesting I never considered that. Of course there is the huge problem of imposing a western belief system unto an eastern one. Questions..how you do you know your beliefs are true ? Where did they come from ? From who ? Any belief system needs examination.
It should be noted that abuse or 'spiritual rape' within Satanic cults is not 'abuse for abuses sake'. Although a hefty topic, it serves quite an important aim in terms of what it does to the personality, especially with regard to compliance of will (see above perhaps). Kubrik's 'Full Metal Jacket' is also good example of this (and an exmple of someone with eyes wide open). This may all seem overly dramatic to some, but we do live in interesting times.
Of course Aikido is not unique, whether you dance the Sun circle at the Universal White Brotherhood, circumambulate under the watchful eye of Cao Dai, or genuflect for the image of 'Golden Maitraya incarnate' Ueshiba, you are essentially worshiping something very dark. It is no accident that fractured minds, abusers, pedophiles, even murderers arise readily in such cults. In this country the creepy BAB has a whole section devoted to child abuse, why? The denial and avoidance is pathetic.
@blacksashman Yes, That must be why whenever abuse is uncovered by the Aikikai administration, the abuser is defrocked and his certification anulled. Bruce Klickstein is an example of what happens when teachers misuse their rank.
Take it from someone who has been a practitioner for 20 years now and goes to all the seminars and gatherings, the only thing satanic about Aikido, is what one might bring with them into it.
The Satanic New Age are basically expert pirates/misusers of native/folk practices, which have a deeper significance at the 'fractal level', added to highly sophisticated forms of ritual abuse. While the corpus of 'Aikido' may be quasi-valid (i.e watered-down Daito Ryu), the 'Satan' was really put in to this New Age Budo at Omoto, Ichikukai, Tempukai etc. Dehumisation, energetic overloading, sinister invocations, even now I am sparing the grizzly stuff.
Ich werde versuchen Ihre frage in Deutsch (mit ein wenig hilfe von Google) beantworten. Der nachweis ist durch die assoziierten Organisationen gefunden. Alle Neue Satanischen Zeitalter kulten tatsächlich zerstören die körper und geist
Proof? I can't find a single org that Ueshiba's cult was connected to that is anything more than suspicious at best. Not only do the poisoned apples not fall far from the tree as far as the Satanic New Age is concerned, they are cordially picked, cooked and spoonfed into your mouth with a thin layer of tasty looking crust.
Second Q, is Buddhism really that old? There were civilisations and religions before it you know. I know Buddhism is exotisized in the West, but at the 'fractal level' many religions can be seen as proverbial fish tanks in an ocean. So Buddhism may have some wise words and truths, so what? They are yours to keep. Do you know what a limited manifestation even your body and mind is from the perspective of a fractal reality which may dance through infinite 'forms' at the most macro to micro levels.
First question, depends what part of the elephant you touch, to some it is sinister political agendas, to others, a spiritual war of good vs evil to yet others something all together more X files. I said many religions (in thier political format) have elements of mind control. I doubt Gautma, whatever he was or wasn't, commissioned the worlds lavish golden temples and statues any more than Jesus asked for enough weath to solve 3rd world problems to be stored in the 'Whore of Babylon's' pocket.
Aikido as the way of peace? Maybe if you include some of the worlds biggest murderers, psychopaths, prostitute trafficking, drug running, pederast all round naughty people under the unbrella of 'peace'. Avoid Satanic New Age Cults.
@blacksashman Really what is your definition of Satan and Satanism? You've talked about Aikido, Christianity and so much more, but now, even Buddhists appear to be involved. Buddhists do not believe in Satan, how can they be involved? Or is Buddhism "poisoned" at its root like Aikido and Christianity? Like, was it Gautama's and the rest of the Buddhas' intention?
More dot connecting. Aikido, via 'monster' Deguchi, is not so distant bedfellows with the Red Swastika Society/Daoyuan, part of the white lotus society, a group of lovely, world uniting, surprise, surprise, Maitreya worshippers, and one of the origins of a harmless little group known as the CHINESE TRIADS. Or how about Deguchi's buddies, Vietnemese Cao Dai, another apocalyptic, 'world saving' cult with its interestingly farmiliar prophecies and even more interesting symbolism.
Most people who get nearer the centre of a cult/ spider web/ or many other 'systems' realise they are 'swimming with sharks', to the extent that we almost apathetically accept that amorality and darkness have to be at the centre. Then there are those who are not aware of the manevolent nature of the arachnid, and thus they will either be eaten, dance to the spiders tune, or become a spider themselves. Of course anyone who 'escapes the web' will have people disagreeing with them.
Deke may have real a LOT about what he calls 'Aquarian conspiracy' yet he has not 'lifted the veil' which points to a 'fractal reality' (the level at which you can KNOW for sure that this is going on). Most people do not set out to be sick, mind destroyed, pederast Satanists but, like being caught in a spider web with a very smart spider, the closer you get to the centre, the more anaethesia that runs in your viens, thus the more you dance to whatever tune spider 'taps down' through her web.
@blacksashman duuuuuude.... poor guy, what kind of aikido have you been doing?? it seems that you had been taken into an occultic rapist club that called itself "aikido" for the sake of luring people in.
My advise, try a genuine aikido dojo.
If you wanna talk Christianity then hello, my friend, everything of the World is satanic, including YouTubing and the use of cologne.
I don't think it means anything that some people don't agree with me. I only disagreed with your opinions on the military, Christianity, American patriotism and some propaganda about twenty year throws. (oh, and that Aikido is Satanic). That girlfriend statement is pointless if you knew my relationship status. @Lightice, yes, I do realise that repeating 'Satanic New Age' in such a un-ironic way may sem unusual to some but...
Alrighty, now. I have conversed with Blacksashman and have observed his diatribe on half a dozen Aikido videos now. Someone needs a GIRLFRIEND!
Seriously. I have yet to see anyone reply to him that even half way agrees with him and I think he likes it that way. The lone crusader mentality is hard to combat.
Anyone who understands what the Satanic New Age is after honest research and inner questioning, who still supports the activities of thier cult. Well, shame on you to be honest. Aikido is merely a small 'Jenga block' so this may seem extreme but nonetheless, shame on you.
People really need to get some fire under there bellies when it comes to the Satanic New Age. Ritgheous anger is an appropriate reponse. Violence probably not. Behind wise old wizards and behind close doors there is a grizzly reality. For a visual idea, perhaps try and think of the sickest thing you can think of and multiply it by many times. The Satanic New Age is like a huge game of Jenga with few players. It relies on YOUR apathy and compliance to uphold the tower of darkness.
If you believe in this weirdy beardy stuff or not, it doesn't matter. Trust your instincts. Satanic cult members are often described as zombie-like because, energetically speaking, they are. Taking away a persons mind must surely be the last freedom to take.
@blacksashman infact i think this might not be moihei.. his head wa snot brown.. i always also thought morihei had dak skinn but he didnt if i am right.
isnt it stange that he is just did this in this video? atelast not that i have seen in any other
Not strictly true, but I like your analogy. As I have mentioned, Satanic cults destoy the energetic system. Personal 'observations' include massive damage at the 3rd and 5th Dantian (is this to stop people thinking and 'speaking out'?) severed or overactive ida and pingala (see:walk into fire), huge damage to kidney nadi/xuemai (activating fear/aggresion), semi/improper openings at the 6th dantian/pineal (spacing out), energetic 'malware' at the sacral and crown. 'Blown open' at the 4th (heart).
I don't believe in this. It's a deformation of the martial arts. In the video, Ueshiba looks like Darth Vader, controlling the opponents with the dark side of the force. In martial arts only exists the science behind the technics. Nothing else.
in aikido you can metaphorically do this only to emphesise theory but this video is just suspect its hard fo rme to believe it was what we see.. might have be something blown up out of proportion o that this is not morihei
@athanasiadis24 his face was not brown if i am right he had light skin
what is new?
people make up all sorts of supernatural garbage about their " religion"
do you think people could walk on water and heal sick people? did you think someone could go into a cave and come out with secret writings?
i believe in god but not religion or any sect or cult cause they make money on these ways.. why not just prove the truth through the real facts of life
@TheRogueMonk if you cant prove the facts through your knowledge and ways if htey do not answer to reality what good is your "way"
the easy way out is to shroud it with mystery and supernatural appeal so that people find a reason to follow you.. usually these mambo jambo are propaganda usually are information that do not have any real start or end so that the reader or person can not manage to decide against it. its always some fact that has no logic and you cant debunk it therefore they win
Some of these orgs are cult leader Onisaburo Deguchi's own 'projects' in fact. Dissemination of' 'simple farmer' Moriehei Ueshibas's art was helped along by some of the most powerful people in the world it would seem. Of course, this sounds like something out of a Dan Brown Novel and there are some big hitters on that list. Weirdly enough, this is really going, right under peoples noses. Wonder why this info never makes it to the dojo.
Through omoto,'simple farmer' Ueshiba and his New Age Budo is connected into Satanic orgs such as (holds breath) Lucis trust, Esalen, World Federalist Movement, Universal Love and Brotherhood Federation, UN, World Religious Federation, Institute of World Problems, World Constitution and Parliament Association, Universal White Brotherhood, Earth Federation Movement, Provisional World Parliament, Tavistock Institute etc etc
Accidental Satanist turned anti-guru J .Krishnamurti warned against snake oil salesmen and thier self professed magic powers/'siddhis'. In Aikido's case it is concepts such as 'takemusu Aiki' and kokyu rokyu which have been elevated onto the pedalstal of worshipful reverence (why they are there I am not sure).To the Satanic mindset raising these very unphenomenal phenomena into the hall of great debate is more distraction and bullshit for the cultic mind to masticate over.
Whenever you join any form of Satanic New Age rubbish you are turning on, logging in and dropping out to woo woo, gaga, I follow my guru, Satan FM. Very good clokwize, you know how to repeat the party line, your proverbial 'spam guard' is switched to OFF. Good ki and bad ki is the kind of hopeless New Age oversimplifition that most people can 'smell' from a mile off.
There is good "Ki" and there is bad "Ki" - It's like saying there are people in good health and people in bad health. Ueshiba was a person who understood (mastered) the ways of ki and used in a positive manner which was benefitial to everyone. Thus the name Aikido which means "Way of peace". To the west, the concept of Ki is very foreign because we look at everything scientifically. But nature is not science. No matter how cleverly we try to understand it nature always changes
Satanic New Age cults are great at damage limitation though. They have thier brainwashed patsies 'Mephestopheles little helpers' who will jump in with the promotional soundbites before you can say 'Faustian Pact'. If anyone tried to expose their cult on an one of thier official 'forums' or anywhere else, I'm sure it would be instant thread lockdown or even site lockdown.
It is still of the New Age thus, by rights, it has a hidden agenda. There will always be those with puppet strings who follow the party line though. New age cults always do the opposite of what they say.
Last clue (although there are many more). Satanism is very fond of 'initiations'and 'invocations' (UN+'great invocation' etc) but you can think of these more as 'possesions' on an energetic level. Were Ueshiba's 'great realisations' in the 1940's just prior to the founding of 'Aikido' as a distinct style, really 'awakenings' or allegorical of an important Satanic initiation? (Krishnamurti went through the same thing). Ueshiba+Golden maitreya.
Its ok, I am not annoyed, if Satanism wasn't a riddle then everyone would have grasped it. Add to that the fact that you are conditioned not to see what is in plain sight. I would try and get more farmiliar with the basics of what I am saying first, you will have found already that I am not alone in that thinking. Then look honestly at the fact that Aikido is connected. So the answer to your question is,no, evidence wise, but for now maybe best to hold the lens of truth up to your own eye.
@blacksashman "Yes or No will be the last thing that I'll ever read from you. "
Well...THAT'S a lie.
As I said before, I'm not trying to prove, I'm actualy trying to get convinced.
I am not biased at you, or preoccupied that you are definitely wrong. But I kind of miss the point because, as I said, the info is scattered. That is why I asked you so many times to send me a message explaining, at least in a nutshell, why Aikido is "connencted". Time marches on.
Look anthansiasis, you believe what what you want, as I have said you have absolutle no obligation AT ALL to believe anything presented here. From the pointlessness of your last to posts in light of what I have said it is clear you have no intention to listen or do any decent research. Be an unpicked lock all your life and live in your fish tank, but maybe give a few other people the chance to make up thier minds eh?
Just to add to what I have said, it is obvious that, although in the minority, there will be the occasional person in Aikido who knows what he is doing, just like there may be the occaional honest politician. But what if the system you are in is poisoned at the root. Is it something you really want to be 'in'?
The concept of 'Maitreya' (Sanskrit/ancient Indan culture/Vedic literature) exists in all religions. This points to a common belief in a future unifying force/entity. When you look at ancient scripture and the ancient world, you are in seriously wierd territory. It is a controversial point, but whether you believe all the religions were complicit in the coming of this (Satanic) event or otherwise, what you should know is that anything linked with 'Maitreya' in the modern/'New' world is darkness.
@blacksashman By "master" I meant your former Aikido teacher (you said that you've practiced it). And Buddhism is about 2600 yrs old while christianity is approximately 3400 yrs old (Moses). It's rather funny that you said "supposedly" tough, since every last word you said fits with supposedly.
athanasiadis, I apperciate your questions, but you miss the point somewhat (my post was meant to imply who would 'they' rather face on the front line-i.e New Agers are the ultimate line of least resistance). Firstly, I don't have any master, secondly I am not impressed by who knows who and who is tough (supposedly), can YOU defend friends and family if need be. Thirdly, who says Buddhism is older than Satanism?
@blacksashman What *I* would appericiate even more would be a full answer. Your comments are scattered here and there and I can't understand. You said that one of the main evidence that Aikido is s is because it is useless in a fight, since it's what newagers want (a "pacifistic, miraculous" old man). Well I told you that Morihei's master (Takeda Sokaku had killed ppl in a fight) was tough as nails, Morihei was tough as nails, his students, and his students' students are tough as nails.
If you were a Satanist, and wanted to run the show (which they do), who would you rather have on the front line should you face resistance? Strong, capable warriors, armed to the teeth or pacifistic, floaty pant wearing, pathologically unfit, Zenglish spouting New Agers who have already kowtowed, avowed and been charmed and posessed by your Satanic Maitreya who only barely attempts to hide baphomets horned silhouette. Martial artists have a right, nay, responsibility to be better than this.
@blacksashman I don't get your beliefs. By "Satanic Maitreya" do you mean the actual Maitreya according to Buddhism (so, if that's the case, Buddhism, being older than Satanism, is Satanic) or are you reffering to the Antichrist?
@blacksashman As for the "pacifistic" nature of Aikido, the deshi that I'm referring to (Kazuo Chiba among others) is still alive, and tough as nails. My friends studies Aikido in his dojo and the training there is more than hardcore. Chiba sensei's moto is "to learn how not to kill, you have to get to know how to kill first". The training in Ueshiba's dojo was soooo intense. Did you know that this old man would use physical violence against the students who did really nasty stuff?
@blacksashman How much DO you know about Aikido, really? I have friends whose friends were Ueshiba's deshi, and as they said, Ueshiba was TREMENDOUSLY fit back in that day, and his physical strength was truly immense.
I am not Christian so it is not in my tendency to demonise everything outside of the status quo of Western tradition. To Satanism, form is unimportant, hence many MA/Eastern practices may be 'satanically connected'. Certainly Soku Gakkai/Nichiren/NKT etc etc are 'in' as are some of the 'Big Players'(i.e Tenzin Gyatso). Zazen can be used beneficially. Ultimately I lean towards the theory that all organised religions have elements of mind control, and we need to look closer at thier roots.
@blacksashman But Zen is a way of life not a practice. I'm not talking about Zazen, but Zen as a philosophy, It is 1300 years old, but can it be satanic?
@blacksashman Remember, what I'm telling you, I know from the student of Ueshiba's deshi (more than one). What I'm trying to tell you is that I know, from people who lived with him, that Ueshiba was incredibly tough and a skillfull warrior. (It needs to be borne in mind however, that Ueshiba himself and his family have said that Ueshiba feats like the "dodging bullets" one are not true, and are nothing but urban legends.) You probably think that Aikido sucks cause your master sucks.
If you want to catch many fish in a net you need to make sure your net accomodates all types of fish, and that you throw it far and wide. Though the fish being reeled in may not see it at first, they are being 'reeled in' together and by the same trawler. Just make sure you are not in the net, you want to be served up next Sunday?
As I have alluded to, you can come to this through experiential and intellectual means, and there are plenty of researchers who operate in this field. Connection to source gives you acces to the inner realms of knowing, feeling and 'seeing'. These are more false divisions however, information is information whether it comes through the internet, or some more 'inner' process.
When you start to break through your conditioning (Satanism+Tavistock etc), take your heads out of the fluffy New Age clouds (with a very much not silver lining) and see through the 'big lie' (maybe enormous lie is more fitting) you will see the 'hero worship' of Ueshiba as noting more than the Satanic New Age/ World Maitreya dynamic played out in a martial arts setting (Maitreya+Deguchi).
Yes, BAdon73, not too far of the mark. The truth really is stranger than fiction, sometimes in is 'hidden in plain sight'. Broardening your field of research is good. In terms of martial arts, Aikido, as a branch of the Satanic New Age movement, should be unredoubtebly avoided.
@blacksashman What is wrong with you? Are you a spammer? All you seem to do is go to Aikido videos and post about how Aikido is evil. Instead of bashing you, we ask you to explain, and you refuse to. Either justify or do not post at all.
@athanasiadis24 As weird as it sounds, it could be so that Aikido has its roots in Satanisms, just as many other religions and foundations. How pacifistic is Aikido, really?
@BAdon73 Aikido isn't pacifistic by definition. Aiki "harmony with ki" i.e harmony with the ki of the situation. Pacifism is the avoidance of the situation. Aikido is about charging into the situation in order to bring it to a peaceful conclusion: it is not about avoiding violence.
Lol. Aikido taking part in United Nations international 'peace' week. Its not even subtle is it? Enjoy your 'great invocation' guys....and your New Age/World Satanism+Lucis trust+United Nations+great invocation.
A word of warning to anyone awakening to the deceptions of the New Age, expect to find resistance, excuses and big words from all number of damaged New Age shills/pawns. Aikido is not coincidentally flawed, it is not coincidentally imperialistic, it is satanism at root, branch and leaf level. Have courage, for when the Tiger steps on the Serpents tail it may hiss and flare its hood but it will surely slither back into the jungle.
@blacksashman What is the matter with you? For a million comments you've been saying that Aikido is satanicbut you refuse to say why when asked. So why don't you make this easy for your self, by finaly telling us all the reasons that you consider valid and try to justify. You "answers" make more questions. How is Aikido satanistic and imperealistic? Why don't you send me this goddamn message in my channel so that I can finaly stop asking?
Plus are you a christian, this is the 4th time I'm asking
MAP is like listening to 'Status Quo FM' -I am not talking about the UK rock group, but in the sense of being watered down , palletable for the masses, maybe thats not the worst metaphor. Might have to dig a bit deeper for the truth though.
No, categorically do not take it or get involved in any form of New Age garbage. That is part of my pont, you do need to learn how to fight. Learn about what is really going on in the world. In these times anyone who talks the truth sounds a bit like 'paranoid Dave' but I couldn't care less. The information speaks for itself, being able to connect dots is an important quality (But connection to source is essential, sorry to anyone who does not believe in this)
@blacksashman So you are saying that by researching, you gathered a mass of info, and, after long thinking/inquiring, and using nothing but human logic (simple or complicated-given or found) you managed to connect some things to others, and reach this conclusion, accepting this as the way it all seems to make sense, and thus validate your initial assumptions by connecting information?
One man sees jigsaw peices and makes a picture, another man sees a pile of cardboard. Must be a lot of ' contemporary artists' in the martial arts world. lol.
@blacksashman If you can send me a more detailed version of your theory in my channel that would certainly be very appericiated since I'm honestly very interested and shocked by the fact that you do seem to know a lot, but I cannot connect your statements so far, and that's where I need your help.
But if you feel very strongly about NOT helping, then that is also respected.
In that case, this is my very last Q:
Is your theory solely based on logic(linking events after research etc)?
@blacksashman The point is a wish to take up Aikido but if it is indeed satanic I won't and that's where I need your help. I want you to send me all that info as a service/favor, because I am curious and shocked since you do seem to to know a hell a lot. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, but to learn, and I hop you will help me, because I don't know what to do or think.
So far common human logic suggests that none of this makes Aikido satanic or even makes one wonder if it is. This can't be it. I bet there's much more than just that and your not telling us, otherwise I'm sorry for your brain.
C'mon there's got to be more, I've begged you to post it man.
Come on guys, he was old and lost his mind, so what? He was great aikido master when he was younger.
nikkyoomote 1 month ago
Toute une vie de pratique pour arriver à ce triste spectacle , quel gâchis , la famille de ce vénérable vieillard aurait du faire censurer ce film.
Blancou27 2 months ago
Im a student of aikido and its true the teachers can knock you down without touching you but its not like theyre blasting ki, ki is more like intention or something they just lead you around and take you off balance. if you watch closely he's leading them and hes all up in their grill making them fall. But this guy is good so hes probably just blasting ki. Did you see the very first guy? now that was ki blasting
Nutsosteel 2 months ago
This isn't fake. It's practice. They know that if they don't fall, they will get hurt, REALLY hurt. So don't say bullshit about something your little minds can't understand, because you look like a fool.
GuiBGH 3 months ago
@GuiBGH did you watch kiai master vs. mma fighter? Dont watch it, u might feel like a fool.
r2d2rx 2 months ago
No me esperaba que Ueshiba al final también recurriera a los kames como tantos estafadores. No voy a perderle el respeto pero la verdad es que me ha defraudado bastante. De todas formas solo las 2 primeras técnicas son fake, en las últimas sí hay contacto y en clase he visto que sí es posible tirar a alguien de esa forma.
josecbm89 6 months ago
KAMEEEEHAMEEEEAHHHHHHH... ahahahahahahahah soooo fake!
malgareina 7 months ago
This stuff is Very true, Ueshiba is a physical genius ranked to that of Albert Einstein or Issac Newton. He solely created the philosophical Aikido
ricesniper 7 months ago
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@ricesniper "This stuff is Very true, Ueshiba is a physical genius ranked to that of Albert Einstein or Issac Newton."
Lol! Sorry, he just isn't.
athanasiadis24 3 months ago
I DO AIKIDO>IT IS FAKE
AND THE FOUNDER HAS PHLOSOPHICAL REASONS FOR HIS LIES TO PEOPLE
ali404040 8 months ago
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ali404040 8 months ago
yes its fake at the moment I practice aikido they are going to teach you how to fall down.the student should pretend to fall down by their sensei movement.they justify that this just for you to feel the sence of motion or energi,
To be honest its all fake
ali404040 8 months ago
It's not spirit magic, or hypnotic suggestion: his students are afraid of him putting their hands on them. The strength in his arms was legendary. Uke knows that O-sensei knows the technique, and doesn't want to press the issue.
xaoseph 8 months ago
*Robert O Becker
theblacksashman 9 months ago
People are too wiling to be mystified by displays of qi, ka, whatever you call it. 'The Body Electric' a book by Robert O Decker which 'the government doesn't want you to read '(apparently;)) is a Western take on things which shows the body has polarity (not unlike the old Baihui/Hui Yin dynamic). i.e the body as a solenoid with 'field lines/lines of intent' (which teh old school MA'ists knew of). New Age is still a schlock up of true principles praying on those who can't think past thier noses.
theblacksashman 9 months ago
When I say 'leading' we are also talking a fairly universal application. A boxer will 'lead' (i.e with his head) then slip/blend and enter at the right time. Not because he is guessing, but because he is connected/switched on/ feeling. Of course if you are the type of person who looks up at the stars at night and says 'ahh how they perform irimi tenkan before me' you won't notice this.
theblacksashman 9 months ago
TBH people (artists, musicians, scientists,plumbers,sportsmen etc) are interacting with fields/matrix's (person/plant/animal/seen/unseen) all the time. Those with a higher level of ability at this were traditionally called 'shaman' and not one of them would say 'its all dolphins jumpin' through rainbows' out there. Nope, a lot of funny business goes on. By the by, the whole religious 'matrix' old or new is control (line em up, dress em up in a nice skirt/robe, opiate em down).
theblacksashman 9 months ago
Who am to say that Ueshiba didnt have so much qi brewing inside that he just points his laogong at you and you fall over, and that the little thrust he does at 0:10 didn't nearly break every goddamn shoji screen in the building? Perhaps quite a few peole in Aikido should stay away from thinking like George Lucas (or worse a Ki Aikidoka) until they can do it themselves. I would suggest these guys are doing a word not in Trudy Styler's vernacular and 'faking it'. Can't resist a ribald joke sadly.
theblacksashman 9 months ago
Hadouken jokes welcome of course.
theblacksashman 9 months ago
The type of 'Jedi' skill you are talking of is 'leading' energy. One way to think of this is to ceate a broken 'O' circuit with your arms (top view) as is seen in CMA styles. The circuit is not really broken because anergy is transmitting through the laogong (especially if you 'gather mind' here).Now create a bigger circuit connecting through another persons 'laogong' a la pattycake. W. eyes closed the connection will be there and you can pull/push the energy. This is the basis of 'leading'.
theblacksashman 9 months ago
People practicing 'World Church of Ueshiba' Aikido (which is 100% of modern day Aikido), hold Ueshiba up as some kind of genius. For his day the idea of adding IP and other arts to Daito Ryu may have been ahead of the time in the cultural context, but this can be done by anyone. Some 'internals' added to a jiujitsu system or a weapons system (i.e Kali) will bump that system up.Aikido has become an excuse for already somatically challenged intellectuals to engage in oft silly mental peregrination
theblacksashman 10 months ago
There are other issues, New Agers tend to try to pick up skills by osmosis with no gong fu/solo work, which may be possible to a point, but which leaves room for all types of fantasy (see above perhaps). Martial arts 'masters' of old may have been 'masters' of the 'chi body'. It sounds hard to express certain things without sounding LOTR, but there is knowledge beyond IP and this is where cultism operates, which is why you can get someone who martially is decent, but is a total douche otherwise.
theblacksashman 10 months ago
I am not underestimating anything. I am just not impressed by these amazing tales. There are several issues. Firstly, we all have an energy body, lets get over that one. Secondly, some people may have a knack with manipulating it (thiers or others) Heiny and Ueshiba may be examples. But lets not hold these people up as gods. Remeber, a person who practices qi skills in a totally different way (yang, explosive i.e. boxer, xing yi) will pose a significant problem to these people.
theblacksashman 10 months ago
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BabexaCreolaja884 10 months ago
0:04 Force Choke
motzy96 11 months ago 2
They are falling over like "magic" because A. The were smart and new O Sensei threw HARD and B. Out of respect. No magic, just aikido. However, Aikido CAN look effortless when done well.
SenseiRabbit 1 year ago
guys you keep saying that this is a fake but you can't prove that this is true you can't prove that this is fake either so...just spit your opinion without being so certain of what you say.
the level he archieved that time was extremely high, frankly im not surprised, earlier he never did anything like that , did he have any reason to come out fake like that and spoil everything that he has worked for till that moment? was he that stupid? i have my reasonable doubts.
Mourne84 1 year ago 9
@Mourne84 i can prove that this is true, because it's ki
MrRichard911 11 months ago
@Mourne84 well put.
bricec09 10 months ago
@Mourne84 I doubt he was faking it. I just don't think it's actual ki prowess. I don't doubt he had great ki/qi skills, I just don't believe you can throw qi like in a video game, an anime or a wuxia. It's probably just some sort of hypnotic suggestion. His students are actually falling and all that, nobody's faking it, they just believe and so it works. Mind you, I do believe could still use his aikido skils.
jigokunoshinigami 9 months ago 7
@Mourne84 Right, criticizing things is a waste of energy. Understanding, appreciation, and contentment are what we should try for.
junkyjuice21 8 months ago
*Milgram experiment.
blacksashman 1 year ago
I believe 'there are more things in heaven and earth, horatio etc etc' but that doesn't mean I want to jingle jangle with my hankerchief out (is morris dancing based on fighting? Maybe closer to Aikido than I thought). Most Aiki dancers dont want to get thier Jedi Aura(tm) dirty, so may suppliment training with a bit of Tai Chi, learning to bang the missus in upside down asana a la Sting, or aiki-similar. Rolling around on the Jedi-poisoning ground, or the like is just not 'loyal' enough.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman lmao - good one. but don't underestimate the jedi shit. when mary heiny sensei had me attack her, it looked like this video. i remember thinking that i was about to grab her wrist, then suddenly trying not to land on my back. i never touched her. it wasn't some magical force that threw me; it was my own intent. she played me like a cat by staying just a hairsbreadth ahead of me. it was her timing. the great aikidoka have BOTH solid martial technique AND the jedi mind shit.
sonsofdon 10 months ago
I remeber watching a documentery about Cambodians doing some truely horrific things (sorry to New Agers to whom it is uncool to talk about teh bad chi's) in loyalty to 'Angka'. People who are loyal to New Ageism (and I believe when Ueshiba said 'Aiki' he often ment Oomoto New Agery) and morris dance for thier leader are similar (Miligram experiment anyone?) What happened to being loyal to your self?
blacksashman 1 year ago
it makes one wonder do we ever truly get hit or do we allow others to connect with us, regrdless i see that these individuals want to be moved by him concious or not.
Tonlondong 1 year ago
@Tonlondong Most of the time we allow others to connect. I realised this a while back when I did some sparring with a friend. I was so determined to hit him I was always making sure I was at the correct distance to get hit myself. Every attack creates an opening, if you wait for them to make the opening and the enter in everything becomes much easier.
ketsan 1 year ago
Gandalf!
ThePepesce 1 year ago 2
So, in this sense, knowledge is a form of power, and esoteric knowledge is no different. More glibly, even if someone grasps the 'conditions' for the manifestation of certain phisical skills, I doubt whether on a Maslowian kind of chart, their new found ability should even feature. Certainly plain old 'kindness' 'thinking for oneself' and 'taking a stand against injustice' would be exponentially higher. I doubt I am saying anything new. Avoid Aquarian nonsense.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Lets put it another way, just as money can be focused into the hands of a few if enough people let it, so can 'knowledge'. If one day the art of , say wine fermentation, was taken away and kept within some select wineries, people would start to attribute incredible stories and far out BS to the feeling of intoxication. Much like a wine, the manifestation of which may rely on certain conditions, so it is with some energy phenomenon.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Not strictly true, but calling something BS is somehow more honest then encyclopedic middle class New Age pontifications on mystical powers. Aiki/physical ethric/internal power, whatever you call it ,which can take many forms, is VERY far from being 'new' and, of course, the New Ager is fascinated by the 'strange, spooky feeling powers'. I use the metaphor of feeding poisoned rice to a starving child in how New Agers clamour around these phenomena in cults.
blacksashman 1 year ago
I wish this guy had faced Grand master Helio Gracie or Grand master mas oyama
to show how fake he is
I like aikido in all its aspects except this ki energy staff complete nonsense
leothephantom7 1 year ago
What can be known, without getting too beardy weirdy, is that Omooto and Aikido have Aquarian roots, which is something that requires not ancient, mystical breathing techniques to undertand, but simple use of google lite. Although not inclined towards Buddhism, the Mahayana school talks of 'gradual awakening'. If there is a nugget of truth to this, I mearly think that percieving and avoiding the Satanic is part of this. You and others may be aware of the trap, but I wonder how many are not.
blacksashman 1 year ago
It is my 'sense' that parts of the Bible (remember the original versions were in Arameic, Hebrew etc) are so sophisticated and criptic, that they at times point to slightly 'lock him up and throw away the key' facts about reality. More prosaically, as your faith may be quite succinct about the New Age, it may be hard to elaborate on specific techniques, other faiths call it the temptation of Shaityan, the demonic realm, the devil, most Christians are at least aware of being led astray.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Finally, in attempting to presage your response, you may repeat YOUR Aikido and YOUR Christianity has none of these elements. Really, I can only say, considering how few people are even aware of the insideous influence of these things, people should avoid Aquarian Cultism (and Christian Sectarianism) altogether (unless they find your dojo perhaps;))
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman There are FAR too many Christians caught up in frivolous things of faith and dogma. It only divides the church and provides ammunition for enemies of the church.
What elements of New Age philosophy are you talking about? I am not even sure what you mean specifically. You have never even elaborated on this. You have only made vague references and accusations so far. Please give a specific example of a new age practice.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 @Deke101 I do have sympathy with aspects of the Christian plight. The Bible mentions that even its own message will be corrupted, in a 'history (and religion) is written by the victors' fashion, which has proven to be true (book of Rev I believe). Actually, there are some parts of the Bible that can only be described as prophetic in understanding the New Age, 'the prince of this world' and 'the harbinger of light'.
blacksashman 1 year ago
My experience of New Agism is, like panning for precious metals in a quarry of fools gold, of course you MAY find some nuggets of truth amongst the rubble, this is intelligent design, not accident (wouldn't be a very effective movement otherwise). I assume you are someone who is content with those nuggets or, less likely, you have panned enough where you find gold (twenty year throws is still BS). Nonetheless, I have yet to meet a New Ager with anything more than a pyrite filled pocket.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman I find New Age philosophy to be more like a wolf in sheep's clothing. It does not wait for you to pan for it. It comes for you in many disguises. There is only one philosophy in Christianity and that is Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light. Everything else is fluff that can be hijacked by new age spiritualism. My church and my dojo are kept seperate. If I ever mention Christianity in my dojo, I risk alienating those who are not Christian, therefore, no religion in the dojo.
Deke101 1 year ago
Anyhow Deke, good luck to you. I will not be visiting any Aikido dojo soon because, as mentioned, I was involved in quite a bit of New Age garbage a few years back, including Aikido. Unfortunately, like the switching on of a light switch, the lies that had been in the background rose up in consciousness, and it could not be ignored. I am not taking any high ground. I have said, I believe peace, awakening, what have you, to be everyones birthright. I will leave the ego games to New Age cults. Bye
blacksashman 1 year ago
You can say what you want about conspiracy theory, this is not a bleeding heart liberal rant about military industrial complexes, nor is it paranoia, but almost everyone at this time, unless they live in a rainbow coloured bubble, is affected by what is happening in the world, often quite directly. Is humanity something they discouraged in the military too? Are all the breaking down and speaking out veterans like we see in the video posted just conspiacy nuts also?
blacksashman 1 year ago
I will repeat, Aikido is a New Age form of budo, watered down brainwashing cult nonsense (note: I am not talking about dissolving the self, ego, techninque in stillness or 'being like water', but as in not very good). Read all the 'Aquarian Conspiracy' you want, not much good if you can't sniff out a dud.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Oh, I believe I have 'sniffed out the dud' quite successfully. I know it is fun to think you are some kind of crusader with some sense of insight above others. It's classic amongst conspriacy theorists like yourself. I simply don't have time right now to deal seriously with your silliness, so I will just bid you good luck on 'uncovering' whatever you hope to find. Might I suggest you actually visit a dojo or two and actually ask a question or two in person?
Deke101 1 year ago
As with subject of the video I have posted, and there are many more moving videos of this nature, understanding what I am saying may involve perceptual, experiential and intellectual shifts, just quoting 'who said what to whom' does not go deep enough. Oomoto, the 'pet philosophy' of Ueshiba is a New Age/NWO front (See Oomoto website 'appeal for a world crisis'). Few people understand the interelatedness of New Age spiritualism and politics.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman No, An intellectual shift is not needed to understand what you are saying. An intellectual and perceptual shift IS needed to buy into the paranoia you are selling. I will agree that Omoto WAS new age philosophy, as are many other philosophies that have sprung up over the years. I DO NOT PRACTICE OMOTO. There is NO religion in any dojo I have visited or practice in. There is NO mention of it in any seminars, camps, groups, or gatherings. Bye, now.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 Sorry Deke, likewise I do not have the time to deal with your predictable repostes. If you are looking for 'crusades', I would look no further than the neo-crucadism which may have been spoonfed to you in boot camp. Like many New Agers, you use terms like 'free will' with little discernment, like many New Agers you lack the courage to look truth in the eye. Do you really believe that anyone would harness thier 'free will' to send a missile through an innocent families home, a school?
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman HAH! You have no time to deal with my predictability, so you will instead fire your own salvo of predictability at me. LOL! Well done. Once again, you prove my point that you know not of which you speak when it comes to the military. I am not surprised. You would probably not last a day in the life, anyway. I don't really care if you visit a dojo to get REAL info or not. You are clearly a lost cause. Toodles.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 Making speculative retorts on how I would fare in a career that I did not choose, whilst avoiding the real issues, is fairly pointless, and I never sought to undermine the individuals involved in such a life (of whom I can count friends and family). I doubt very much you would last a day in what I do either. Anyway, ego games aside, you seem to spend a lot of time trying to debunk what I and many others say. Why not let people make up thier own minds?
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Exactly. Speculating on what goes on in a dojo without visiting one firsthand is equally pointless. Let people make up their OWN minds. Let them visit a dojo and decide for themselves. Something you have stated you will not do. I spend time debunking MANY falsehoods about things which I have firsthand knowledge of.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 Maybe you didn't read the part where I said I have been in (many an) Aikido dojo as well as other groups propagating New Age ideas. I didn't say people can't go to an Aikido dojo. I am highlighting what the New Age is, how it operates and how Oomoto and Aikido are part of it, people can do what they will with that info. Dont believe in this 'Satanic Aquarian Age' stuff, fine, let my comments go into the ether. Some people may want to look beyond New Age cult dogma, however.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Perhaps YOU did not read the part where I said I KNOW the New Age movement exists in all it's aspects. I keep an eye out for any and all things Satanic. I am simply telling you that New Age philosophy is not practiced where I teach, nor in any dojo I have been in. We do NOT worship old men or ANY men for that matter. You speak of abuse and elusive dogma that does not exist. Me practising Aikido makes me Omoto no more than practicing Karate makes me Shinto.
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 Yes, you did mention this. I have met few people more vigilant than Christians, yet most of what I see in Christianity these days leads towards a combination of sectarianism contasted with heady eucamencalism and interfaith ideology. This seems very positive, but so does Omoto/Aikido New Agism on a very surface level. I should point out that New Age spiritualism, 'The Light', NWO Aquarian spirituality, whatever you call it, needs no specific worship or docterine to disseminate.
blacksashman 1 year ago
*Snrrk*
What with the video title and the getup, all I can think of is Ueshiba gravely saying "We must join with Him, Gandalf. We must join with Sauron."
ooogooman 1 year ago
Aikido is watered down budo for the New Age. Ueshiba could be considered an avatar for something ('The light' as it is know in Satanism), which could be considered a form of power . Noone said the demonic wasn't charasmatic, even holy to those of weak mind and will. Wake up to the New Age deception.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman OMG. You reall have nothing better to do, do you? You know, after twenty years, I think I would have uncovered SOME kind of clue as to what you are on about. There is not one shred of worship that goes on in ANY dojo I have entered. O' Sensei was said to have been ANGERED whenever people implied that he should be treated as a messiah. Saotome Sensei was asked what he knew about gods of Aikido and his reply was, "What the heck are you talking about?"
Deke101 1 year ago
@Deke101 On the contrary, I have much better things to do then post on these videos. Denial is a strong force and 'uncovering' seems not to be one of your strong points. How long were you a GI joe coming off the production line? (a pertinent image from a former conversation we had, see my channel). The irony is that those who get in to New Age cults, professing everything from egolessness to heightened awareness, could not be more ensnared in faux awakening, delusion and ego.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman (sigh) Still at this pointless argument, I see. I was a soldier for ten years because I chose to be. You know, free will? Contrary to belief you CAN get out of military service ANY time you wish if you know what you are doing. I also have chosen to practice martial arts (several of them) of my own free will. I continue to do so because I find it rewarding. The only delusion I see here is yours.
Deke101 1 year ago
A bit off topic, but, yes, Ueshiba is Satanic as you put it.
blacksashman 1 year ago
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blacksashman 1 year ago
Not really a question of East vs West (Does Aikido represent the East?-Not really if you understand its roots) and I have already covered how I come to my beliefs , I have also before expressed notions from texts such as Huangdi Neijing, Taijiquan Jing and so on. The classical texts are always much more relevant that (Satanic) New Age Shit like Aikido. But essentially, the 'gateway' to understanding energetic phenomena has always been 'stillness', absolute stillness of body and of mind.
blacksashman 1 year ago
was Ueshiba Satanic ? Interesting I never considered that. Of course there is the huge problem of imposing a western belief system unto an eastern one. Questions..how you do you know your beliefs are true ? Where did they come from ? From who ? Any belief system needs examination.
hastahabanero 1 year ago
It should be noted that abuse or 'spiritual rape' within Satanic cults is not 'abuse for abuses sake'. Although a hefty topic, it serves quite an important aim in terms of what it does to the personality, especially with regard to compliance of will (see above perhaps). Kubrik's 'Full Metal Jacket' is also good example of this (and an exmple of someone with eyes wide open). This may all seem overly dramatic to some, but we do live in interesting times.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Of course Aikido is not unique, whether you dance the Sun circle at the Universal White Brotherhood, circumambulate under the watchful eye of Cao Dai, or genuflect for the image of 'Golden Maitraya incarnate' Ueshiba, you are essentially worshiping something very dark. It is no accident that fractured minds, abusers, pedophiles, even murderers arise readily in such cults. In this country the creepy BAB has a whole section devoted to child abuse, why? The denial and avoidance is pathetic.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Yes, That must be why whenever abuse is uncovered by the Aikikai administration, the abuser is defrocked and his certification anulled. Bruce Klickstein is an example of what happens when teachers misuse their rank.
Take it from someone who has been a practitioner for 20 years now and goes to all the seminars and gatherings, the only thing satanic about Aikido, is what one might bring with them into it.
Deke101 1 year ago
The Satanic New Age are basically expert pirates/misusers of native/folk practices, which have a deeper significance at the 'fractal level', added to highly sophisticated forms of ritual abuse. While the corpus of 'Aikido' may be quasi-valid (i.e watered-down Daito Ryu), the 'Satan' was really put in to this New Age Budo at Omoto, Ichikukai, Tempukai etc. Dehumisation, energetic overloading, sinister invocations, even now I am sparing the grizzly stuff.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Yeah, Omoto was Ueshiba's pet philosophy. I have never heard it mentioned in ANY practice other than mentioned for history sake.
Deke101 1 year ago
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blacksashman 1 year ago
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blacksashman 1 year ago
Proof? I can't find a single org that Ueshiba's cult was connected to that is anything more than suspicious at best. Not only do the poisoned apples not fall far from the tree as far as the Satanic New Age is concerned, they are cordially picked, cooked and spoonfed into your mouth with a thin layer of tasty looking crust.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Second Q, is Buddhism really that old? There were civilisations and religions before it you know. I know Buddhism is exotisized in the West, but at the 'fractal level' many religions can be seen as proverbial fish tanks in an ocean. So Buddhism may have some wise words and truths, so what? They are yours to keep. Do you know what a limited manifestation even your body and mind is from the perspective of a fractal reality which may dance through infinite 'forms' at the most macro to micro levels.
blacksashman 1 year ago
First question, depends what part of the elephant you touch, to some it is sinister political agendas, to others, a spiritual war of good vs evil to yet others something all together more X files. I said many religions (in thier political format) have elements of mind control. I doubt Gautma, whatever he was or wasn't, commissioned the worlds lavish golden temples and statues any more than Jesus asked for enough weath to solve 3rd world problems to be stored in the 'Whore of Babylon's' pocket.
blacksashman 1 year ago
*White Lotus Society
blacksashman 1 year ago
Aikido as the way of peace? Maybe if you include some of the worlds biggest murderers, psychopaths, prostitute trafficking, drug running, pederast all round naughty people under the unbrella of 'peace'. Avoid Satanic New Age Cults.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Really what is your definition of Satan and Satanism? You've talked about Aikido, Christianity and so much more, but now, even Buddhists appear to be involved. Buddhists do not believe in Satan, how can they be involved? Or is Buddhism "poisoned" at its root like Aikido and Christianity? Like, was it Gautama's and the rest of the Buddhas' intention?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman Stop that, please.
aryul 1 year ago
More dot connecting. Aikido, via 'monster' Deguchi, is not so distant bedfellows with the Red Swastika Society/Daoyuan, part of the white lotus society, a group of lovely, world uniting, surprise, surprise, Maitreya worshippers, and one of the origins of a harmless little group known as the CHINESE TRIADS. Or how about Deguchi's buddies, Vietnemese Cao Dai, another apocalyptic, 'world saving' cult with its interestingly farmiliar prophecies and even more interesting symbolism.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Most people who get nearer the centre of a cult/ spider web/ or many other 'systems' realise they are 'swimming with sharks', to the extent that we almost apathetically accept that amorality and darkness have to be at the centre. Then there are those who are not aware of the manevolent nature of the arachnid, and thus they will either be eaten, dance to the spiders tune, or become a spider themselves. Of course anyone who 'escapes the web' will have people disagreeing with them.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Deke may have real a LOT about what he calls 'Aquarian conspiracy' yet he has not 'lifted the veil' which points to a 'fractal reality' (the level at which you can KNOW for sure that this is going on). Most people do not set out to be sick, mind destroyed, pederast Satanists but, like being caught in a spider web with a very smart spider, the closer you get to the centre, the more anaethesia that runs in your viens, thus the more you dance to whatever tune spider 'taps down' through her web.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman duuuuuude.... poor guy, what kind of aikido have you been doing?? it seems that you had been taken into an occultic rapist club that called itself "aikido" for the sake of luring people in.
My advise, try a genuine aikido dojo.
If you wanna talk Christianity then hello, my friend, everything of the World is satanic, including YouTubing and the use of cologne.
miks8 1 year ago
I don't think it means anything that some people don't agree with me. I only disagreed with your opinions on the military, Christianity, American patriotism and some propaganda about twenty year throws. (oh, and that Aikido is Satanic). That girlfriend statement is pointless if you knew my relationship status. @Lightice, yes, I do realise that repeating 'Satanic New Age' in such a un-ironic way may sem unusual to some but...
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman
can you give us one proof for your opinions please :)
LucasSense 1 year ago
Alrighty, now. I have conversed with Blacksashman and have observed his diatribe on half a dozen Aikido videos now. Someone needs a GIRLFRIEND!
Seriously. I have yet to see anyone reply to him that even half way agrees with him and I think he likes it that way. The lone crusader mentality is hard to combat.
Deke101 1 year ago
well, there is psychological methods to make a person fell "this is dangerous"... could be something like that..
AikiDanne1 1 year ago
Anyone who understands what the Satanic New Age is after honest research and inner questioning, who still supports the activities of thier cult. Well, shame on you to be honest. Aikido is merely a small 'Jenga block' so this may seem extreme but nonetheless, shame on you.
blacksashman 1 year ago
People really need to get some fire under there bellies when it comes to the Satanic New Age. Ritgheous anger is an appropriate reponse. Violence probably not. Behind wise old wizards and behind close doors there is a grizzly reality. For a visual idea, perhaps try and think of the sickest thing you can think of and multiply it by many times. The Satanic New Age is like a huge game of Jenga with few players. It relies on YOUR apathy and compliance to uphold the tower of darkness.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Yeah its old Ueshiba, delusion is pretty much written into the fabric of Satanic New Age cults after all.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Is it just me, or are you in love with the words "Satanic New Age?"
Ofcourse using the word "satanic " without a hint of irony kind of removes any credibility from your warnings about realism.
Old guy pushing people with a suggestive trick is totally destroying the world! :)
Lightice1 1 year ago
If you believe in this weirdy beardy stuff or not, it doesn't matter. Trust your instincts. Satanic cult members are often described as zombie-like because, energetically speaking, they are. Taking away a persons mind must surely be the last freedom to take.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman infact i think this might not be moihei.. his head wa snot brown.. i always also thought morihei had dak skinn but he didnt if i am right.
isnt it stange that he is just did this in this video? atelast not that i have seen in any other
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
Not strictly true, but I like your analogy. As I have mentioned, Satanic cults destoy the energetic system. Personal 'observations' include massive damage at the 3rd and 5th Dantian (is this to stop people thinking and 'speaking out'?) severed or overactive ida and pingala (see:walk into fire), huge damage to kidney nadi/xuemai (activating fear/aggresion), semi/improper openings at the 6th dantian/pineal (spacing out), energetic 'malware' at the sacral and crown. 'Blown open' at the 4th (heart).
blacksashman 1 year ago
I don't believe in this. It's a deformation of the martial arts. In the video, Ueshiba looks like Darth Vader, controlling the opponents with the dark side of the force. In martial arts only exists the science behind the technics. Nothing else.
mrsilentquiet 1 year ago
@mrsilentquiet thats why i t might not be him.
in aikido you can metaphorically do this only to emphesise theory but this video is just suspect its hard fo rme to believe it was what we see.. might have be something blown up out of proportion o that this is not morihei
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk It IS Morihei, it looks just like him. And he has claimed to have dodged bullets. More than once (!).
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@athanasiadis24 his face was not brown if i am right he had light skin
what is new?
people make up all sorts of supernatural garbage about their " religion"
do you think people could walk on water and heal sick people? did you think someone could go into a cave and come out with secret writings?
i believe in god but not religion or any sect or cult cause they make money on these ways.. why not just prove the truth through the real facts of life
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk people even sometimes make up things about themselves i think its unnecessary but some people think they need it.
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk if you cant prove the facts through your knowledge and ways if htey do not answer to reality what good is your "way"
the easy way out is to shroud it with mystery and supernatural appeal so that people find a reason to follow you.. usually these mambo jambo are propaganda usually are information that do not have any real start or end so that the reader or person can not manage to decide against it. its always some fact that has no logic and you cant debunk it therefore they win
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
Some of these orgs are cult leader Onisaburo Deguchi's own 'projects' in fact. Dissemination of' 'simple farmer' Moriehei Ueshibas's art was helped along by some of the most powerful people in the world it would seem. Of course, this sounds like something out of a Dan Brown Novel and there are some big hitters on that list. Weirdly enough, this is really going, right under peoples noses. Wonder why this info never makes it to the dojo.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Through omoto,'simple farmer' Ueshiba and his New Age Budo is connected into Satanic orgs such as (holds breath) Lucis trust, Esalen, World Federalist Movement, Universal Love and Brotherhood Federation, UN, World Religious Federation, Institute of World Problems, World Constitution and Parliament Association, Universal White Brotherhood, Earth Federation Movement, Provisional World Parliament, Tavistock Institute etc etc
blacksashman 1 year ago
Accidental Satanist turned anti-guru J .Krishnamurti warned against snake oil salesmen and thier self professed magic powers/'siddhis'. In Aikido's case it is concepts such as 'takemusu Aiki' and kokyu rokyu which have been elevated onto the pedalstal of worshipful reverence (why they are there I am not sure).To the Satanic mindset raising these very unphenomenal phenomena into the hall of great debate is more distraction and bullshit for the cultic mind to masticate over.
blacksashman 1 year ago
More pointless comments.
blacksashman 1 year ago
Whenever you join any form of Satanic New Age rubbish you are turning on, logging in and dropping out to woo woo, gaga, I follow my guru, Satan FM. Very good clokwize, you know how to repeat the party line, your proverbial 'spam guard' is switched to OFF. Good ki and bad ki is the kind of hopeless New Age oversimplifition that most people can 'smell' from a mile off.
blacksashman 1 year ago
There is good "Ki" and there is bad "Ki" - It's like saying there are people in good health and people in bad health. Ueshiba was a person who understood (mastered) the ways of ki and used in a positive manner which was benefitial to everyone. Thus the name Aikido which means "Way of peace". To the west, the concept of Ki is very foreign because we look at everything scientifically. But nature is not science. No matter how cleverly we try to understand it nature always changes
clokwize 1 year ago
@clokwize How come you didn't say blacksashman sounds ridiculous lol
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Satanic New Age cults are great at damage limitation though. They have thier brainwashed patsies 'Mephestopheles little helpers' who will jump in with the promotional soundbites before you can say 'Faustian Pact'. If anyone tried to expose their cult on an one of thier official 'forums' or anywhere else, I'm sure it would be instant thread lockdown or even site lockdown.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Perphaps because it is spamming you dumbass.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman...*tried to expose their cult on an one of thier official 'forums' or anywhere else*
This is considered spamming in 100% of what we call Internet.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman they are not good at anything. they are incompetent hacks.
whologe 1 year ago
It is still of the New Age thus, by rights, it has a hidden agenda. There will always be those with puppet strings who follow the party line though. New age cults always do the opposite of what they say.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Why isn't Bruce Lee a satanist?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Last clue (although there are many more). Satanism is very fond of 'initiations'and 'invocations' (UN+'great invocation' etc) but you can think of these more as 'possesions' on an energetic level. Were Ueshiba's 'great realisations' in the 1940's just prior to the founding of 'Aikido' as a distinct style, really 'awakenings' or allegorical of an important Satanic initiation? (Krishnamurti went through the same thing). Ueshiba+Golden maitreya.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman So Aikido "is connected" because it "coincidently" fits the description of a New Age cult, according to research and logic?
Thanks, and hopefully this is my last question to you.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman Note the " in coincidently, because according to you it's not at all coincidently.
Thanks again
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman Oooops meant "coincidentally".
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Its ok, I am not annoyed, if Satanism wasn't a riddle then everyone would have grasped it. Add to that the fact that you are conditioned not to see what is in plain sight. I would try and get more farmiliar with the basics of what I am saying first, you will have found already that I am not alone in that thinking. Then look honestly at the fact that Aikido is connected. So the answer to your question is,no, evidence wise, but for now maybe best to hold the lens of truth up to your own eye.
blacksashman 1 year ago
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@blacksashman "Yes or No will be the last thing that I'll ever read from you. "
Well...THAT'S a lie.
As I said before, I'm not trying to prove, I'm actualy trying to get convinced.
I am not biased at you, or preoccupied that you are definitely wrong. But I kind of miss the point because, as I said, the info is scattered. That is why I asked you so many times to send me a message explaining, at least in a nutshell, why Aikido is "connencted". Time marches on.
Thanks again for replying
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Look anthansiasis, you believe what what you want, as I have said you have absolutle no obligation AT ALL to believe anything presented here. From the pointlessness of your last to posts in light of what I have said it is clear you have no intention to listen or do any decent research. Be an unpicked lock all your life and live in your fish tank, but maybe give a few other people the chance to make up thier minds eh?
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman To be quite frank I'm trying to believe you.
But is what you've said in this Youtube comment section all you've got as evidence?
Yes or No will be the last thing that I'll ever read from you.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Just to add to what I have said, it is obvious that, although in the minority, there will be the occasional person in Aikido who knows what he is doing, just like there may be the occaional honest politician. But what if the system you are in is poisoned at the root. Is it something you really want to be 'in'?
blacksashman 1 year ago
The concept of 'Maitreya' (Sanskrit/ancient Indan culture/Vedic literature) exists in all religions. This points to a common belief in a future unifying force/entity. When you look at ancient scripture and the ancient world, you are in seriously wierd territory. It is a controversial point, but whether you believe all the religions were complicit in the coming of this (Satanic) event or otherwise, what you should know is that anything linked with 'Maitreya' in the modern/'New' world is darkness.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman By "master" I meant your former Aikido teacher (you said that you've practiced it). And Buddhism is about 2600 yrs old while christianity is approximately 3400 yrs old (Moses). It's rather funny that you said "supposedly" tough, since every last word you said fits with supposedly.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
athanasiadis, I apperciate your questions, but you miss the point somewhat (my post was meant to imply who would 'they' rather face on the front line-i.e New Agers are the ultimate line of least resistance). Firstly, I don't have any master, secondly I am not impressed by who knows who and who is tough (supposedly), can YOU defend friends and family if need be. Thirdly, who says Buddhism is older than Satanism?
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman What *I* would appericiate even more would be a full answer. Your comments are scattered here and there and I can't understand. You said that one of the main evidence that Aikido is s is because it is useless in a fight, since it's what newagers want (a "pacifistic, miraculous" old man). Well I told you that Morihei's master (Takeda Sokaku had killed ppl in a fight) was tough as nails, Morihei was tough as nails, his students, and his students' students are tough as nails.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman How can Satanism be older than Buddhism?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
If you were a Satanist, and wanted to run the show (which they do), who would you rather have on the front line should you face resistance? Strong, capable warriors, armed to the teeth or pacifistic, floaty pant wearing, pathologically unfit, Zenglish spouting New Agers who have already kowtowed, avowed and been charmed and posessed by your Satanic Maitreya who only barely attempts to hide baphomets horned silhouette. Martial artists have a right, nay, responsibility to be better than this.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Makes sense. Something that makes sense however, is not evidence. Evidence is not what makes sense, or that which is plausible.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman I don't get your beliefs. By "Satanic Maitreya" do you mean the actual Maitreya according to Buddhism (so, if that's the case, Buddhism, being older than Satanism, is Satanic) or are you reffering to the Antichrist?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman As for the "pacifistic" nature of Aikido, the deshi that I'm referring to (Kazuo Chiba among others) is still alive, and tough as nails. My friends studies Aikido in his dojo and the training there is more than hardcore. Chiba sensei's moto is "to learn how not to kill, you have to get to know how to kill first". The training in Ueshiba's dojo was soooo intense. Did you know that this old man would use physical violence against the students who did really nasty stuff?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
No.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman How much DO you know about Aikido, really? I have friends whose friends were Ueshiba's deshi, and as they said, Ueshiba was TREMENDOUSLY fit back in that day, and his physical strength was truly immense.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
I am not Christian so it is not in my tendency to demonise everything outside of the status quo of Western tradition. To Satanism, form is unimportant, hence many MA/Eastern practices may be 'satanically connected'. Certainly Soku Gakkai/Nichiren/NKT etc etc are 'in' as are some of the 'Big Players'(i.e Tenzin Gyatso). Zazen can be used beneficially. Ultimately I lean towards the theory that all organised religions have elements of mind control, and we need to look closer at thier roots.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman But Zen is a way of life not a practice. I'm not talking about Zazen, but Zen as a philosophy, It is 1300 years old, but can it be satanic?
What do you think?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman Remember, what I'm telling you, I know from the student of Ueshiba's deshi (more than one). What I'm trying to tell you is that I know, from people who lived with him, that Ueshiba was incredibly tough and a skillfull warrior. (It needs to be borne in mind however, that Ueshiba himself and his family have said that Ueshiba feats like the "dodging bullets" one are not true, and are nothing but urban legends.) You probably think that Aikido sucks cause your master sucks.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
If you want to catch many fish in a net you need to make sure your net accomodates all types of fish, and that you throw it far and wide. Though the fish being reeled in may not see it at first, they are being 'reeled in' together and by the same trawler. Just make sure you are not in the net, you want to be served up next Sunday?
blacksashman 1 year ago
As I have alluded to, you can come to this through experiential and intellectual means, and there are plenty of researchers who operate in this field. Connection to source gives you acces to the inner realms of knowing, feeling and 'seeing'. These are more false divisions however, information is information whether it comes through the internet, or some more 'inner' process.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman I suspect that Zen is satanic. What does your research indicate?
Thanks
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
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clokwize 1 year ago
When you start to break through your conditioning (Satanism+Tavistock etc), take your heads out of the fluffy New Age clouds (with a very much not silver lining) and see through the 'big lie' (maybe enormous lie is more fitting) you will see the 'hero worship' of Ueshiba as noting more than the Satanic New Age/ World Maitreya dynamic played out in a martial arts setting (Maitreya+Deguchi).
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman Is your opinion a product of information and processing it, or do you know this by personal testimony?
Did you realize about "the enormous lie" through prolonged reasearch and examining the info carefully, and then reached a conclusion?
Regards,
athanasiadis
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Yes, BAdon73, not too far of the mark. The truth really is stranger than fiction, sometimes in is 'hidden in plain sight'. Broardening your field of research is good. In terms of martial arts, Aikido, as a branch of the Satanic New Age movement, should be unredoubtebly avoided.
blacksashman 1 year ago
What's your clues, why won't you tell me?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Maybe if you howl at the moon for long enough you will even get a second coming of the archmage himself. Satanism+second coming+maitreya.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman What is wrong with you? Are you a spammer? All you seem to do is go to Aikido videos and post about how Aikido is evil. Instead of bashing you, we ask you to explain, and you refuse to. Either justify or do not post at all.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@athanasiadis24 As weird as it sounds, it could be so that Aikido has its roots in Satanisms, just as many other religions and foundations. How pacifistic is Aikido, really?
BAdon73 1 year ago
@BAdon73 Aikido isn't pacifistic by definition. Aiki "harmony with ki" i.e harmony with the ki of the situation. Pacifism is the avoidance of the situation. Aikido is about charging into the situation in order to bring it to a peaceful conclusion: it is not about avoiding violence.
ketsan 1 year ago
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clokwize 1 year ago
Lol. Aikido taking part in United Nations international 'peace' week. Its not even subtle is it? Enjoy your 'great invocation' guys....and your New Age/World Satanism+Lucis trust+United Nations+great invocation.
blacksashman 1 year ago
ha hahahaha ffs this cant be serious,
CHANNELOMD 1 year ago
A word of warning to anyone awakening to the deceptions of the New Age, expect to find resistance, excuses and big words from all number of damaged New Age shills/pawns. Aikido is not coincidentally flawed, it is not coincidentally imperialistic, it is satanism at root, branch and leaf level. Have courage, for when the Tiger steps on the Serpents tail it may hiss and flare its hood but it will surely slither back into the jungle.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman What is the matter with you? For a million comments you've been saying that Aikido is satanicbut you refuse to say why when asked. So why don't you make this easy for your self, by finaly telling us all the reasons that you consider valid and try to justify. You "answers" make more questions. How is Aikido satanistic and imperealistic? Why don't you send me this goddamn message in my channel so that I can finaly stop asking?
Plus are you a christian, this is the 4th time I'm asking
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
MAP is like listening to 'Status Quo FM' -I am not talking about the UK rock group, but in the sense of being watered down , palletable for the masses, maybe thats not the worst metaphor. Might have to dig a bit deeper for the truth though.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman I didn't mention MAP at all. (did I?)
Anyway, you mentioned that Ki is neutral, but the purpose is what matters. So what is so evil about the ki use in Aikido?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
No, categorically do not take it or get involved in any form of New Age garbage. That is part of my pont, you do need to learn how to fight. Learn about what is really going on in the world. In these times anyone who talks the truth sounds a bit like 'paranoid Dave' but I couldn't care less. The information speaks for itself, being able to connect dots is an important quality (But connection to source is essential, sorry to anyone who does not believe in this)
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman So you are saying that by researching, you gathered a mass of info, and, after long thinking/inquiring, and using nothing but human logic (simple or complicated-given or found) you managed to connect some things to others, and reach this conclusion, accepting this as the way it all seems to make sense, and thus validate your initial assumptions by connecting information?
Thanks and correct me if I'm wrong, am I?
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
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athanasiadis24 1 year ago
Forgot to add oomoto to that list.
blacksashman 1 year ago
One man sees jigsaw peices and makes a picture, another man sees a pile of cardboard. Must be a lot of ' contemporary artists' in the martial arts world. lol.
blacksashman 1 year ago
@blacksashman If you can send me a more detailed version of your theory in my channel that would certainly be very appericiated since I'm honestly very interested and shocked by the fact that you do seem to know a lot, but I cannot connect your statements so far, and that's where I need your help.
But if you feel very strongly about NOT helping, then that is also respected.
In that case, this is my very last Q:
Is your theory solely based on logic(linking events after research etc)?
Thank you
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman The point is a wish to take up Aikido but if it is indeed satanic I won't and that's where I need your help. I want you to send me all that info as a service/favor, because I am curious and shocked since you do seem to to know a hell a lot. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, but to learn, and I hop you will help me, because I don't know what to do or think.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
@blacksashman Your arguments so far, were:
1. Qigong walk...
2. Gun control (?)
3. Mishandling of Ki (?)
4. Bemused serpent look of Aikidoka (?)
and some more.
So far common human logic suggests that none of this makes Aikido satanic or even makes one wonder if it is. This can't be it. I bet there's much more than just that and your not telling us, otherwise I'm sorry for your brain.
C'mon there's got to be more, I've begged you to post it man.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago