Okay, (1) Alice has herpes but doesn't tell "I never lied to you" and Alice sleeps with (2) Hank and (3) Harry and (2) Hank sleeps with (4) Carol and (5) Hope and (3) Harry sleeps with (5) Hope and (6) Desiree and Desiree just came from Charlie Manson's camp... Beautiful Man, what iches?
This is a classic example of pop culture exploring and questioning social mores and attitudes. The 1960's were an amazing time for this and in many ways it was a more progressive time for conscious raising than in the years since. For instance most people today still regard monogamy as the "ideal" kind of relationship.
The unique thing about B&C&T&A is that, while other later movies explored and sometimes satirized the '60s in retrospect, this is one of the few that actually looked at the times currently. I think it was a very savvy and insightful film, and it's too bad younger audiences haven't really seen this. It's insightful, and the comedy portion of the movie still holds up, 40 years later.
Not really! Then, it was serious now; it's called a group session. This film was on the cutting edge along with The Graduate. 50 years from now society will take a look at us, in 2009, and laugh too. When I saw this movie, it made me squirm in my seat; it was so full of social taboo!
That's interesting that you say that, because this hit me in a totally different way. I felt this scene was poking fun at EST therapy or whatever was the popular therapist fad of the 60's.
Perhaps, but then a different problem presents itself. These characters are completely immersed in a form of therapy that is demeaning to them as human beings (in my opinion) and they seem to endorse this therapy. Therefore, the filmmaker appears to be mocking his own characters, and asking us to do the same. If so, where is viewer identification? Whom can we root for? Through whom are we viewing this story? It all becomes rather alienating and offputting.
This is all clarified when one watches the commentary for this film: they all did it with utter sincerity. I can rule out any idea that there is any mocking of this "therapy" (whatever we make of it, now) as the rest of the film goes on to assert.
That's Right Man...once they stopped "copping out" and shit, then the real emotions came to the surface...so a Big Right On! to the director. LOL I'm being sarcastic - a little. This movie does belong in a time capsule - I found it revolutionary for its time though. So, A Big Right On - I'm being serious now :-)
The final, moving scene of the film is a culmination of the exploration of how far this notion can go. I think of it more as a synthesis of the Director's notion of the hopes that such ideas burgeoning at the time offer to challenge individuals (without endorsing the therapy at all myself) can result in a sort of humanistic moment of grace. Whether it is bull or not, it's a well-articulated ideal, and therefore Mazursky's best work. WOrth a look, and an immaculate time capsule.
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie, but I must say there's something horrifying about these characters, this sequence, and Mazursky in general. Every moment of every life of every character in every movie is a therapy session. All of civilization is one enormous therapy session in which people endlessly correct each other, and then burst into tears because they're not "connecting." In some inverse way, this movie seems to make a valid argument for silence.
this movie was always one of my favourites. the funniest scene, for me, was uptight Dyan Cannon in her shrink's office discussing various names people use for female genitalia: Dyan: what word do your children use? Shrink: "vagina". LOL
Paul Mazursky, the director of this movie, has been exploring marital issues in his movies for years. I'd almost forgotten how great this particular one was. Thanks!
shes was beautifull wow
willcox5 1 year ago
Robert Culp was so tragically hip with his nehru shirt+love beads, lol!!!
"A put-down look"
"That's a cop-out"
"That's beautiful!"
All bullsit!
RoadTweeker 1 year ago
Okay, (1) Alice has herpes but doesn't tell "I never lied to you" and Alice sleeps with (2) Hank and (3) Harry and (2) Hank sleeps with (4) Carol and (5) Hope and (3) Harry sleeps with (5) Hope and (6) Desiree and Desiree just came from Charlie Manson's camp... Beautiful Man, what iches?
jgray110 1 year ago
lol.. I was joking about the " beautiful man" stuff.. on another note RIP ROBERT CULP..
getoutofmyway01 1 year ago
it's " beautiful" man!
getoutofmyway01 2 years ago
has anybody been more alive on screen - while saying absolutely nothing - than dyan cannon?!!! she's great.
leofilm 2 years ago 2
Natalie Wood in great new bio (All About Jeffrey Hunter) at amazon!
Bestmanme08 2 years ago 2
naTAlie wood was and remains on celluloid, fantastic in every way and in every role.
unclebobunclebob 2 years ago 2
This is a classic example of pop culture exploring and questioning social mores and attitudes. The 1960's were an amazing time for this and in many ways it was a more progressive time for conscious raising than in the years since. For instance most people today still regard monogamy as the "ideal" kind of relationship.
3investigators 2 years ago
The unique thing about B&C&T&A is that, while other later movies explored and sometimes satirized the '60s in retrospect, this is one of the few that actually looked at the times currently. I think it was a very savvy and insightful film, and it's too bad younger audiences haven't really seen this. It's insightful, and the comedy portion of the movie still holds up, 40 years later.
mthivier 2 years ago
I think I can remember the time that this movie came out. It really has a '70s feel to it.
Adventurestud 2 years ago
sbrr10
Not really! Then, it was serious now; it's called a group session. This film was on the cutting edge along with The Graduate. 50 years from now society will take a look at us, in 2009, and laugh too. When I saw this movie, it made me squirm in my seat; it was so full of social taboo!
crackers2012 3 years ago
goback3spaces,
That's interesting that you say that, because this hit me in a totally different way. I felt this scene was poking fun at EST therapy or whatever was the popular therapist fad of the 60's.
sbarr10 3 years ago
Perhaps, but then a different problem presents itself. These characters are completely immersed in a form of therapy that is demeaning to them as human beings (in my opinion) and they seem to endorse this therapy. Therefore, the filmmaker appears to be mocking his own characters, and asking us to do the same. If so, where is viewer identification? Whom can we root for? Through whom are we viewing this story? It all becomes rather alienating and offputting.
goback3spaces 3 years ago
This is all clarified when one watches the commentary for this film: they all did it with utter sincerity. I can rule out any idea that there is any mocking of this "therapy" (whatever we make of it, now) as the rest of the film goes on to assert.
bikiniatoll 2 years ago
That's Right Man...once they stopped "copping out" and shit, then the real emotions came to the surface...so a Big Right On! to the director. LOL I'm being sarcastic - a little. This movie does belong in a time capsule - I found it revolutionary for its time though. So, A Big Right On - I'm being serious now :-)
GAMOM2 2 years ago
The final, moving scene of the film is a culmination of the exploration of how far this notion can go. I think of it more as a synthesis of the Director's notion of the hopes that such ideas burgeoning at the time offer to challenge individuals (without endorsing the therapy at all myself) can result in a sort of humanistic moment of grace. Whether it is bull or not, it's a well-articulated ideal, and therefore Mazursky's best work. WOrth a look, and an immaculate time capsule.
bikiniatoll 2 years ago
Okay. I'll give it a try, and then get back to you.
goback3spaces 2 years ago
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie, but I must say there's something horrifying about these characters, this sequence, and Mazursky in general. Every moment of every life of every character in every movie is a therapy session. All of civilization is one enormous therapy session in which people endlessly correct each other, and then burst into tears because they're not "connecting." In some inverse way, this movie seems to make a valid argument for silence.
goback3spaces 3 years ago
natalie look so pretty in this movie
MMRP2141 3 years ago 3
I love her hairdo :-D
brushstrokesrock 3 years ago 3
pure perfection
scrambledpenis 2 years ago 2
absolute perfection....natalie was such a sweetheart....shy..sexy...wild...i love her in every movie
godardtruffaut 2 years ago 5
right on!
scrambledpenis 2 years ago
this movie was always one of my favourites. the funniest scene, for me, was uptight Dyan Cannon in her shrink's office discussing various names people use for female genitalia: Dyan: what word do your children use? Shrink: "vagina". LOL
mthivier 3 years ago
Paul Mazursky, the director of this movie, has been exploring marital issues in his movies for years. I'd almost forgotten how great this particular one was. Thanks!
cranky1chick 3 years ago
Geez, this brings back memories. I used to be Bob.
Oophorectomy 3 years ago
It was the sexual revolution! Kind of funny for the year 1969.
exita99 3 years ago
this is a strange, funny movie.
myrnaturner 4 years ago
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cookieshopgirl 4 years ago