@esseaquimesmo Pena q sua inteligencia soh eh compativel com criticas construtivas, algo que sinceramente delega um intelecto nao apenas limitrofe mas sem a menor graca! rs
Just watched a Bugaku performance life.... unfortunately it was...well >_> Here on youtube it sounds much nicer than in real life, and its only 5 Minutes long. Believe me, you woundn't stand it xD
While i really liked this it made my cat run up to me miauwing to please turn it off >.> im ashamed to admit my cat is either completely uncultured or has supersensitive ears (the highpitched sounds can get quite invase to western conditioned animal ears i guess) but i still say its pretty darn amazing!
The reed, along with the horizantal flute were imported from Persia around Tang dynasty. Supposibily, We are listeing to the same tune as 700 AD music. ..
i study music at school, and am curently sutdying tradition Gagaku music. if any of you could help me understand how japanese traditionaly notate this style of music, do they use visual notation or some form of manuscript? that would be good! plz help!!!!
They do use a visual notation, but it's nothing like western sheet music. Most of the pieces are memorized, with notation only used for reference. I can't find any good articles in English however, gomen ne!
This kind of music speaks about the thousands of generations past. The rituals, the bloodlines, the beliefs...ancient Japan is captured here. It makes me cry...
I think everyone 'understands' it to different levels. As much as I might love it, I'll probably always hear it or respond to it differently than a Japanese person who grew up with it in a full context. In the end, the ability to let go of musical preconceptions and feel it might be more important than intellectually understanding it.
I wouldn't assume that Japanese people grow up listening to gagaku, or any of the traditional music forms at all. Certainly much less than Westerners (or Japanese people for that matter!) listen to formal western music. I've lived here a year and have yet to meet a single Japanese person that listens to gagaku. Also, Japanese culture has become must more westernised, so for the most part I suspect they feel almost as alienated from this music as we do, even if we enjoy it.
True, having heard plenty of Asian pop music it's wrong to assume that everyone grows up with it. Vietnamese classical music sends me over the edge for example but lots of young people just think it's awful. Not many American kids grow up hearing classical music all the time. I did, it even got shoved down my throat. :) So my associations - whether positive or negative - will be different from those of someone from a completely different tradition who is hearing it for the first time.
@GraigRussell It would be interesting to know who in Japan gets involved in playing this sort of music. Is chance inspiration, or is it something passed down in families, social class...? I don't have a clue!
Traditionally, it's hereditary, but outsiders can join a musical family. Like much of Japanese art, when the student graduates, they get a new name indicating what family they come from. Nowadays there are also university courses, I believe.
In Robert Temple's THE SIRIUS MYSTERY, the aquatic beings who bring knowledge to the Persian Gulf area are
matched by similar creatures who are the mythical bringers of knowledge to China. The famous dragons in Chinese culture seem to be later versions of the 'fish-men" "serpent" beings. I wonder if this music is not a memory, as the dragon in this song flies through the heavens, with the rather nasal tone for squawking humanity.
In short, this is music of alien contact! Just thinking...
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I think the japanese think:" just play somethink and make a big name 4 it - some wannabe profs will appaud 2 it and write nice comments..hehehehihiihhohohhahahhuhuh" ;)
Guys, girls - they make fun of us - like "eating" with chopsticks ;)
The sho (mouth organ) is my favorite instrument of all time. It either sounds like Cicadas, or the buzzing in my head after drinking too much the night before.
this's a gagaku group in Akita, the northern part of japan, quite faraway from the capitals. nowadays i learnt that the players went to Akita and Shimane to learn gagaku, when the civil-war ruined Kyoto in 15 century.. 応仁の乱後、京都楽所の人達は雅楽を習いに秋田・山形や出雲へも伺ったそうです。雅楽は四天王寺・奈良・京都だけではないとのこと‥。
How does this relate to 'etenraku', from someone I understoond this music was part of this performance. Sorry my Japanese is not good (and thus lack part of the cultural background).
in fact to me "Gagaku" is not easy to accept but indeed it is quite charming for its profound melody~:) and i have heard that it is from China in Tand Dynasty. It is a pity that we can nolonger hear this kind of music in now day china but thanks god that Japan preserve it for us:)
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"Next, forty men in yellow, playing gossiwors. The gossiwor, played only in the king's presence, produces a preposterous disconsolate bellow. Forty of them played together shake one's reason, shake the towers of Erhenrang, shake down a last spatter of rain from the windy clouds.
If this is the Royal Music, no wonder the kings of Karhide are all mad."
I know this is a long shot, But does anyone have any idea what this piece is called? I would love to use this as an example in an essay i am writing about Gagaku music.
Aldebussy's comment is right on. When I listen to this clip and close my eyes, I'm there on a warm summer night, full moon and the fresh earth aroma...shoji and tatami in the bargain. Just too good. Words fail me. Gagaku and Haiku speak to the soul.
1. If you come from a 'classical' musician's point of view, listen to John Cage and then tell me who's music is barbaric.
2. If you come from rock/rap musician's perspective, then I really have nothing to tell you because listening to crappy rap music has probably driven you deaf.
I listen to almost every sort of music from traditional Persian to Greek to Jazz and classical and after years of ear training, I find this quite astounding and beautiful.
lolz you are juz wasting my time replying to you. grow a bigger brain(if u already have one) and realise that i don't tolerate ppl spamming my mail with youtube replys. and while you are at it, i would say that jap king is actually a SON OF A BITCH
and by the way, nice quote from a random insluting website. and to tell the truth... i dun really understand a shit of what you are saying. typical americans. :)
Japan doesn't have a king, it has an Emperor. Longest running Royal line in the world, i believe. Look, if you have access to the internet (and apparently you do), at least verify this sort of thing.
Do you know who you're defending or who you're talking about? I am still not sure, so forgive me ifyou meant this for somebody else, but I 'defended' this music and I was arguing with somebody who was insulting them severely because of their race and their hats.
You ignorant juvenile moron don't even know Japan doesn't have a king, it has an emperor and you're obviously unaware of terms: stereotyping, racism, nazism, etc and you probably have never come out of that negligent and unintelligent and totally unmotivated shell of yours to try to discover new art and appreciate it and simply don't call thousands of years of history barbaric even if it doesn't suit your taste.
This music is tought to be a sublime expression of elegance and refinement created by the upper class at court yards of the imperial palace on the classical age of Japan...
Gagaku predates the feudal eras in Japan. Its origin traces to China and had its prime in Heian era. It was the music of shrine keepers and aristocrats. Samurais had nothing to do with it.
That music was very eerie and frightened me when I first heard it. I am not trying to offend anyone who likes that music. I was just giving my opinion.
Yume def opened me up to this. Ever since though I've listened to too many bad Gagaku things. Is that really loud one the hichiriki? Not the one playing the sho or the flute, that's hichiriki yea?
When I first heard this music, it was far away and feint. I thought it was a baby crying, but it didn't stop, and I wondered why no one took care of the baby! I followed the sound, and eventually found the place where they were playing. It definitely takes some getting used to, this music.
suck balls
11soccer9 5 months ago
@11soccer9 You obviously have no soul :D
ToontownDeathNote 4 months ago
omg it hate this song so im going to kill my self with a RPG
11soccer9 5 months ago
@setherian
Pena que sua inteligência não consiga desenvolver crítica mais construtiva que essa...
esseaquimesmo 9 months ago
@esseaquimesmo Pena q sua inteligencia soh eh compativel com criticas construtivas, algo que sinceramente delega um intelecto nao apenas limitrofe mas sem a menor graca! rs
Setherian 9 months ago
Just watched a Bugaku performance life.... unfortunately it was...well >_> Here on youtube it sounds much nicer than in real life, and its only 5 Minutes long. Believe me, you woundn't stand it xD
BUT the Shô is such a great intrument *_*
fynnfish 11 months ago
While i really liked this it made my cat run up to me miauwing to please turn it off >.> im ashamed to admit my cat is either completely uncultured or has supersensitive ears (the highpitched sounds can get quite invase to western conditioned animal ears i guess) but i still say its pretty darn amazing!
ChisaiiInori 11 months ago
The reed, along with the horizantal flute were imported from Persia around Tang dynasty. Supposibily, We are listeing to the same tune as 700 AD music. ..
pranhu 1 year ago
Imagine listening to this in front of a pristine forest!
now I understand why ancient court peoples used to watched Gagaku in a vast, open space.
Prissi20 1 year ago
I like to call this VATOMANOKU music !
Setherian 1 year ago
@Setherian Pena que sua inteligência não consiga desenvolver crítica melhor que essa...
esseaquimesmo 9 months ago
:) So wonderful, its musical poetry in the very centre of one's being
Shoknifeman 1 year ago
I just LOVE gagaku! Reminds me of the ocean :-)
GoodiTwoShuz 1 year ago
To my socially conditioned ears this sounds strange. But it has a really mystical air.
afbg1988 1 year ago
To my socially conditioned ears this sounds strange. But it has a really mystical air.
afbg1988 1 year ago
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you dont say posters but posers..posters are something else..something way different..hmm i wonder how may posers are trying to write english -.-
GershwinWTF 2 years ago
posters as in posters of comments...
people who post comments?
yes.
queenjaime 2 years ago
wow this stuff is realy deep,
i study music at school, and am curently sutdying tradition Gagaku music. if any of you could help me understand how japanese traditionaly notate this style of music, do they use visual notation or some form of manuscript? that would be good! plz help!!!!
123ShadowFox 2 years ago
They do use a visual notation, but it's nothing like western sheet music. Most of the pieces are memorized, with notation only used for reference. I can't find any good articles in English however, gomen ne!
neonkandiekid 2 years ago
Thanks!
123ShadowFox 2 years ago
good
colombiano57 2 years ago
This kind of music speaks about the thousands of generations past. The rituals, the bloodlines, the beliefs...ancient Japan is captured here. It makes me cry...
gabbynewneo 2 years ago 2
How many of these posters actually understand this music? How many are pretending to understand it?
menglongmorris 2 years ago
lots and lots of them ... lulz internets
ThereIsOnlyFate 2 years ago 2
I think everyone 'understands' it to different levels. As much as I might love it, I'll probably always hear it or respond to it differently than a Japanese person who grew up with it in a full context. In the end, the ability to let go of musical preconceptions and feel it might be more important than intellectually understanding it.
sazji 2 years ago 5
I wouldn't assume that Japanese people grow up listening to gagaku, or any of the traditional music forms at all. Certainly much less than Westerners (or Japanese people for that matter!) listen to formal western music. I've lived here a year and have yet to meet a single Japanese person that listens to gagaku. Also, Japanese culture has become must more westernised, so for the most part I suspect they feel almost as alienated from this music as we do, even if we enjoy it.
GraigRussell 2 years ago
True, having heard plenty of Asian pop music it's wrong to assume that everyone grows up with it. Vietnamese classical music sends me over the edge for example but lots of young people just think it's awful. Not many American kids grow up hearing classical music all the time. I did, it even got shoved down my throat. :) So my associations - whether positive or negative - will be different from those of someone from a completely different tradition who is hearing it for the first time.
sazji 2 years ago
@GraigRussell It would be interesting to know who in Japan gets involved in playing this sort of music. Is chance inspiration, or is it something passed down in families, social class...? I don't have a clue!
sazji 2 years ago
Traditionally, it's hereditary, but outsiders can join a musical family. Like much of Japanese art, when the student graduates, they get a new name indicating what family they come from. Nowadays there are also university courses, I believe.
GraigRussell 2 years ago
why can't this be the popular music of Japan, along with other traditional Japanese music, rather than disgusting jpop?
vinniram 2 years ago 5
if you look hard enough and keep an open mind you might find some jpop that you like
Skygerobrian 2 years ago 2
whoa, well this is interesting.
When I heard it at first I was like... WHOA, wth is this.
But when I continued listening I started to understand and appreciate it more.
konohamarutard 2 years ago 2
it WONT load!! ... takes tooo looong! Xc
hop1pop 2 years ago
I find it hard to appreciate japanese or korean court music. Hurts my ears! Well maybe I am no royalty :P
simoninsingapore 2 years ago
Equalizer.
Skygerobrian 2 years ago
beautiful and harmonic music :)
ju57m333 2 years ago
Completely blew my mind right now..... :)
funknotik 2 years ago 4
This is REAL music that strikes right
into your soul and ears.
vogelmandrie 2 years ago 3
In Robert Temple's THE SIRIUS MYSTERY, the aquatic beings who bring knowledge to the Persian Gulf area are
matched by similar creatures who are the mythical bringers of knowledge to China. The famous dragons in Chinese culture seem to be later versions of the 'fish-men" "serpent" beings. I wonder if this music is not a memory, as the dragon in this song flies through the heavens, with the rather nasal tone for squawking humanity.
In short, this is music of alien contact! Just thinking...
WorstPSUstudentever 3 years ago
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I think the japanese think:" just play somethink and make a big name 4 it - some wannabe profs will appaud 2 it and write nice comments..hehehehihiihhohohhahahhuhuh" ;)
Guys, girls - they make fun of us - like "eating" with chopsticks ;)
kinupsi 3 years ago
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fuck you, racist piece of shit
vinniram 2 years ago
The sho (mouth organ) is my favorite instrument of all time. It either sounds like Cicadas, or the buzzing in my head after drinking too much the night before.
superjules 3 years ago 5
lol i love you^^
tatemichitaro 2 years ago
this's a gagaku group in Akita, the northern part of japan, quite faraway from the capitals. nowadays i learnt that the players went to Akita and Shimane to learn gagaku, when the civil-war ruined Kyoto in 15 century.. 応仁の乱後、京都楽所の人達は雅楽を習いに秋田・山形や出雲へも伺ったそうです。雅楽は四天王寺・奈良・京都だけではないとのこと‥。
paramsaram 3 years ago 3
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almost sounds like a synthesizer, or a keyboard! Ya sure they don't have one back stage? LOL
VTPPGLVR 3 years ago
やはり何度観ても味わい深い演奏ですね
個人的には龍笛のおやっさんが好きです
雅楽は、不思議な音楽です‥
日本的なものと異国的なものが混在して
いて、、中々滅多にこんな音楽は他に
無い気がしています。 秋田の雅楽の
おやっさん達、これからも稽古と演奏
頑張ってください!
paramsaram 3 years ago 5
So beautiful music!!!
Aviolys 3 years ago 11
うはー陰陽師の映画を思い出します。平安時代も思い浮かびます。素敵な動画有難うございました。
Thank you very much.
Sarabin7 3 years ago 4
gagaku and japanese culture is so beautiful
i love my counry's culture
megalomania2227 3 years ago 11
i got your love&passion, then why not try
some instrument like Ryuteki or Hichiriki?!
They're not expensive at all, and also fun
to play. Gagaku looks and sounds beatiful,
it's because they practice lots and lots.
not only because our culture is fine or sth.
you,too can try gagaku^~^
paramsaram 3 years ago 2
Merci. I'm not good at English..
I'll try to go hichiriki kyousitsu next month.And more studying Japanese instrument.
Thank you for information
megalomania2227 3 years ago
This wonderful music is for me, both subtle and profound....'powerful'... Thank you for sharing this..:-)
azsoen 3 years ago 2
this gagaku music is Gojouraku
brigadetroops 3 years ago
Do you mean this music piece has as title 'Gojouraku', or do you mena it is from this region or from this type of performance?
Thanks for the feedback.
VReijs 3 years ago
tittl=Gojouraku-kyuu
brigadetroops 3 years ago
How does this relate to 'etenraku', from someone I understoond this music was part of this performance. Sorry my Japanese is not good (and thus lack part of the cultural background).
VReijs 3 years ago
I like distancial- modell scale and equidistanciality:D
mixolid 3 years ago
in fact to me "Gagaku" is not easy to accept but indeed it is quite charming for its profound melody~:) and i have heard that it is from China in Tand Dynasty. It is a pity that we can nolonger hear this kind of music in now day china but thanks god that Japan preserve it for us:)
renesussmayr 3 years ago
o i luv those things, a bit different, but they have a unique sound to them that almost sounds like the sound of nature rather than an instrument.
yoka955 3 years ago
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A bit like Bjork then ?
navarredance 3 years ago
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"Next, forty men in yellow, playing gossiwors. The gossiwor, played only in the king's presence, produces a preposterous disconsolate bellow. Forty of them played together shake one's reason, shake the towers of Erhenrang, shake down a last spatter of rain from the windy clouds.
If this is the Royal Music, no wonder the kings of Karhide are all mad."
Ursula le Guin, "Left hand of darkness"
rozniy 3 years ago
Really cool! This is quite awesome n stuff!
MurasakiShikibufan 3 years ago
I know this is a long shot, But does anyone have any idea what this piece is called? I would love to use this as an example in an essay i am writing about Gagaku music.
kimmywas 3 years ago
it's an abbreviated version of a piece called "etenraku". hope it's not too late for your essay;) good luck!!
tgeucihtnairk 3 years ago 2
Aldebussy's comment is right on. When I listen to this clip and close my eyes, I'm there on a warm summer night, full moon and the fresh earth aroma...shoji and tatami in the bargain. Just too good. Words fail me. Gagaku and Haiku speak to the soul.
kehoe123321 4 years ago 2
Ahh!
MurasakiShikibufan 3 years ago
I can hear the histoy and sorrow behind the music! It's fascinating!
aldebussy 4 years ago
*great sorry... --"
Velyne 4 years ago
wow that s grat! ^w^
Velyne 4 years ago
So sophisticated!Thanks!
cymbad 4 years ago
This sounds just like the beginning song from the film Rashomon...I love gagaku
bellchap 4 years ago
this reminds of uilleann pipes (irish)
gkorein 4 years ago
I'm writing a report on Japanese music. I'm trying to think how this is a reflection of Japanese society, not easy.
mrty132 4 years ago
japanese music has close conection to religions.
wTARTZAw 2 years ago 2
I'm just listening to this whilst studying kanji.
Thanks a lot for the upload.
JudderMan25 4 years ago
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baka
redwarplay 4 years ago
aaahhhmm, is that the only japanese word you know?! lol
tgeucihtnairk 3 years ago
楠袈騒餓氏ヰ那
yawato 4 years ago
interesting
samcindytinker 4 years ago
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1 thing to say about this: barbaric.
ngexpert 4 years ago
1 thing to say about ngexpert: troll
MtFujiInMyPantsSUGOI 4 years ago 5
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2 things to say about JAPS: all japs sux like shit and jap king is a son of a bitch
ngexpert 4 years ago
You're so cultured. I think you need go get out more.
CaiteDesu 4 years ago 5
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you're so ignorant. read the rest of the comments to find out whether the jap king is that all i said.
ngexpert 4 years ago
A couple intersting facts:
1. If you come from a 'classical' musician's point of view, listen to John Cage and then tell me who's music is barbaric.
2. If you come from rock/rap musician's perspective, then I really have nothing to tell you because listening to crappy rap music has probably driven you deaf.
I listen to almost every sort of music from traditional Persian to Greek to Jazz and classical and after years of ear training, I find this quite astounding and beautiful.
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aldebussy 4 years ago 3
You tell 'em!
MurasakiShikibufan 3 years ago
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Grow a brain, and while you at it, take the wheels off your trailer and pick up the beer cans in your yard
Skybaby79 4 years ago
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lolz you are juz wasting my time replying to you. grow a bigger brain(if u already have one) and realise that i don't tolerate ppl spamming my mail with youtube replys. and while you are at it, i would say that jap king is actually a SON OF A BITCH
ngexpert 4 years ago
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and by the way, nice quote from a random insluting website. and to tell the truth... i dun really understand a shit of what you are saying. typical americans. :)
ngexpert 4 years ago
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Oh please little man, let it go, the war is over and you got your but kicked.
just sit back and enjoy the music, it will make your years of ocupation fly by faster lol!
Skybaby79 4 years ago
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look who's talking... little baby?
ngexpert 4 years ago
Japan doesn't have a king, it has an Emperor. Longest running Royal line in the world, i believe. Look, if you have access to the internet (and apparently you do), at least verify this sort of thing.
RhinoGen 4 years ago 6
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what a ferverish jap...
ngexpert 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure those thousands of musicians who study this music are smarter than you.
aldebussy 4 years ago 3
one things for sure theyre smarter than u
Chottegari 3 years ago
Do you know who you're defending or who you're talking about? I am still not sure, so forgive me ifyou meant this for somebody else, but I 'defended' this music and I was arguing with somebody who was insulting them severely because of their race and their hats.
And I don't claim to be smarter.
aldebussy 3 years ago
Barbaric? You should listen to some experimentalist music...
t3h1337h4xx0r 4 years ago 2
You ignorant juvenile moron don't even know Japan doesn't have a king, it has an emperor and you're obviously unaware of terms: stereotyping, racism, nazism, etc and you probably have never come out of that negligent and unintelligent and totally unmotivated shell of yours to try to discover new art and appreciate it and simply don't call thousands of years of history barbaric even if it doesn't suit your taste.
aldebussy 4 years ago
You tell 'em!
MurasakiShikibufan 3 years ago
this reminds me of whale song. or something from a sci fi film with aliens. cool though
munkytron 4 years ago
Gagaku is beautiful. It does take some time to getting used to. The sho came from the Chinese Sheng.
Chichiri520 4 years ago
Omanuke san
bombardiere 4 years ago
This music is tought to be a sublime expression of elegance and refinement created by the upper class at court yards of the imperial palace on the classical age of Japan...
bombardiere 4 years ago
It's utterly mesmerizing. I can hear and see the court yards. I can smell it!
Super sublime and expressive!
aldebussy 4 years ago
This kind of reminds me how dreary and depressing feudal Japan was in the time of the Samurai...I wonder if any Gagaku pieces are upbeat.
WingsTM 4 years ago
Gagaku predates the feudal eras in Japan. Its origin traces to China and had its prime in Heian era. It was the music of shrine keepers and aristocrats. Samurais had nothing to do with it.
hirokatasugiyama 4 years ago
間
ipiuq 4 years ago
Can you imagine, this was "The Thing" to do in Ancient times. Japanese court music... (I would know... doing a research project on it now... -_-)
agenttk 4 years ago
That music was very eerie and frightened me when I first heard it. I am not trying to offend anyone who likes that music. I was just giving my opinion.
Maraking16 4 years ago
of course not ^^ It does sound scary xD
kurenaisama 4 years ago
Yume def opened me up to this. Ever since though I've listened to too many bad Gagaku things. Is that really loud one the hichiriki? Not the one playing the sho or the flute, that's hichiriki yea?
Icewalker 5 years ago
Since Kurosawas YUME I really like this.
kortebroekman 5 years ago
When I first heard this music, it was far away and feint. I thought it was a baby crying, but it didn't stop, and I wondered why no one took care of the baby! I followed the sound, and eventually found the place where they were playing. It definitely takes some getting used to, this music.
Thorf13 5 years ago
HAHAHA...
Obbyto 4 years ago
I thought the EXACT same thing.
meursault42 4 years ago
Hi. Nice work! I found out it's called Gagaku.
Thorf13 5 years ago
Thanks, I changed the title and summary
VReijs 5 years ago