You are correct to call for an Article V Convention. I've been doing so for years. I had the only web site supporting it for many years at metamind-dot-us-slash-cc
If you want to take a huge step forward in "repairing" this country, attack the 17th amendment. I've written an article on the subject and proposed a method for getting rid of it. It is one of my blogs and can be found here: myspace (dot) com/jimmy_madison.
On second thought, "probably" is too weak of a word to describe the danger. An article 5 convention IS the greatest danger our Republic could ever face.
There is precedent for this exact thing to happen. The precedent was the first and only convention. They were to "fix" the articles of confederation. They came out with a whole new constitution complete with a ratification process. Delegates to the convention would have the states proxy to do as they pleased. Goodbye Founders and hello david rockefeller. Please study this issue in more detail. What you are promoting is probably the gravest danger this republic could ever face.
@ajpmathwiz I certainly do feel the exact same way. Go google the new constitution rockefeller has all drawn up for just such an occasion. also, go read up on the facts that an article 5 convention can't be limited to just specific amendments. Once empowered, the attendees carry the proxies of the states and can do any fucking thing they want, and can change the ratification process to have 5 bums on skid row ratify it.
Before you tread too much further into this area I strongly suggest you research what learned scholars have written on this subject. Many who have studied this issue feel an article 5 convention can't be limited to just amendments. Or there could just be one big amendment changing the whole thing. Even the ratification process could be changed by the delegates.
The so called learned scholars either have an axe to grind, or they don't understand the Article V, The convention can only propose amendments, that is exactly what Congress does. It still takes 3/4 of the states to pass any Amendment. The operative word is propose. The conventions or the legislature from each of the 3/4 states must approve the amendment before it is ever added to the Constitution
An article 5 convention is absolutely the worst thing that could ever happen. If one is ever convened, you can kiss the entire Constitution goodbye. The rockefeller foundation has a "brand new constitution" just waiting in the wings for just such an occasion. I've read it and it sucks.
I wonder, did you read the Article V, or did you just take somebody's word for what it says. A convention serves the same purpose that Congress serves, regarding an Amendment. They PROPOSE an amendment. It takes 3/4 or 38 states voting YES to pass an amendment.
The Constitution is being shreded by the present administration, Congress, and the Supreme Court.
Please don't explain article 5 to me, I have it MEMORIZED. There has been 1 get that through yur skull, 1 convention in the history of this country. The precedent set at that convention would stand in court. The convention was called to "ammend" the articles of confederation and resulted in a brand new constitution. That is the predcedent that has been set.
Also, if you absolutely feel the need to gamble with the only thing standing between you and tyranny, go ahead. I've presented the evidence. No amount of pearls before swine can change the mind of a fool. Go ahead and gamble, just deal me out. Oh, that's right, you can't deal me out because in the process of screwing yourself, you'll be screwing over everyone else in this Republic as well, including me. All for an amendment to limit terms that can be limited by voters.
If the framers of the constitution had not belived that there would arise a time that the constitution needed amending they would NOT have included Article V in the Constitution, but since you seem to know more than they did, I bow to your supreme knowledge.
I still do not quite understand the Article 5, but I am going to learn. It is time for Americans to stand up and get active in their government. It is nearly too late, we are almost slaves now.
Look at it this way Congress can propose an Amendment to the constitution. It must then be submitted to the Legislatures of all 50 states. 3/4 of them, or 38 states must vote yes on the amendment to pass it, and add it to the Constitution. It works the same for a convention, they propose an amendment or several. They must then go to the state conventions or legislatures for the 38 states noting yse to pass it or them.
F-O-A-V-C-d-o-t-o-r-g ...great video, very informative and important. Thank you for sharing this on youtube. Did the recent firings of high court officials that did not agree with Bush have anything to do with further corrupting our representatives and thier "proposals" that are supposed to be backed by 3/4 of the states?
I think that Congress' corruption was well encased long before the firings of the Attorney generals. Their "masters" put them in power with large campaign contributions.
I'll be posting another video in a few days. It'll be suggesting some steps to be taken to make our constiturion work for all citizens, not just for the elite.
You are correct to call for an Article V Convention. I've been doing so for years. I had the only web site supporting it for many years at metamind-dot-us-slash-cc
nodesnetwork 2 years ago
If you want to take a huge step forward in "repairing" this country, attack the 17th amendment. I've written an article on the subject and proposed a method for getting rid of it. It is one of my blogs and can be found here: myspace (dot) com/jimmy_madison.
pchanson42 4 years ago
On second thought, "probably" is too weak of a word to describe the danger. An article 5 convention IS the greatest danger our Republic could ever face.
Paul.
pchanson42 4 years ago
There is precedent for this exact thing to happen. The precedent was the first and only convention. They were to "fix" the articles of confederation. They came out with a whole new constitution complete with a ratification process. Delegates to the convention would have the states proxy to do as they pleased. Goodbye Founders and hello david rockefeller. Please study this issue in more detail. What you are promoting is probably the gravest danger this republic could ever face.
pchanson42 4 years ago
After seeing our current government, do you still think an Article V convention is the biggest threat possible to the Republic?
ajpmathwiz 1 year ago
@ajpmathwiz I certainly do feel the exact same way. Go google the new constitution rockefeller has all drawn up for just such an occasion. also, go read up on the facts that an article 5 convention can't be limited to just specific amendments. Once empowered, the attendees carry the proxies of the states and can do any fucking thing they want, and can change the ratification process to have 5 bums on skid row ratify it.
pchanson42 1 year ago
Before you tread too much further into this area I strongly suggest you research what learned scholars have written on this subject. Many who have studied this issue feel an article 5 convention can't be limited to just amendments. Or there could just be one big amendment changing the whole thing. Even the ratification process could be changed by the delegates.
pchanson42 4 years ago
The so called learned scholars either have an axe to grind, or they don't understand the Article V, The convention can only propose amendments, that is exactly what Congress does. It still takes 3/4 of the states to pass any Amendment. The operative word is propose. The conventions or the legislature from each of the 3/4 states must approve the amendment before it is ever added to the Constitution
rwfwheeler 4 years ago
An article 5 convention is absolutely the worst thing that could ever happen. If one is ever convened, you can kiss the entire Constitution goodbye. The rockefeller foundation has a "brand new constitution" just waiting in the wings for just such an occasion. I've read it and it sucks.
pchanson42 4 years ago
I wonder, did you read the Article V, or did you just take somebody's word for what it says. A convention serves the same purpose that Congress serves, regarding an Amendment. They PROPOSE an amendment. It takes 3/4 or 38 states voting YES to pass an amendment.
The Constitution is being shreded by the present administration, Congress, and the Supreme Court.
rwfwheeler 4 years ago
Please don't explain article 5 to me, I have it MEMORIZED. There has been 1 get that through yur skull, 1 convention in the history of this country. The precedent set at that convention would stand in court. The convention was called to "ammend" the articles of confederation and resulted in a brand new constitution. That is the predcedent that has been set.
pchanson42 4 years ago
And the Constitution we now have would not be the law of the land if it were not ratified by the states, per the ratification clause.
ajpmathwiz 1 year ago
Also, if you absolutely feel the need to gamble with the only thing standing between you and tyranny, go ahead. I've presented the evidence. No amount of pearls before swine can change the mind of a fool. Go ahead and gamble, just deal me out. Oh, that's right, you can't deal me out because in the process of screwing yourself, you'll be screwing over everyone else in this Republic as well, including me. All for an amendment to limit terms that can be limited by voters.
pchanson42 4 years ago
If the framers of the constitution had not belived that there would arise a time that the constitution needed amending they would NOT have included Article V in the Constitution, but since you seem to know more than they did, I bow to your supreme knowledge.
rwfwheeler 4 years ago
I still do not quite understand the Article 5, but I am going to learn. It is time for Americans to stand up and get active in their government. It is nearly too late, we are almost slaves now.
miketheday 4 years ago
Look at it this way Congress can propose an Amendment to the constitution. It must then be submitted to the Legislatures of all 50 states. 3/4 of them, or 38 states must vote yes on the amendment to pass it, and add it to the Constitution. It works the same for a convention, they propose an amendment or several. They must then go to the state conventions or legislatures for the 38 states noting yse to pass it or them.
rwfwheeler 4 years ago
great post robert. I signed up on FOAVC.
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
F-O-A-V-C-d-o-t-o-r-g ...great video, very informative and important. Thank you for sharing this on youtube. Did the recent firings of high court officials that did not agree with Bush have anything to do with further corrupting our representatives and thier "proposals" that are supposed to be backed by 3/4 of the states?
graphak 4 years ago
I think that Congress' corruption was well encased long before the firings of the Attorney generals. Their "masters" put them in power with large campaign contributions.
rwfwheeler 4 years ago
thanks for the reply. Ive since stumbled upon a book by John Coleman called The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations. It's quite scary.
The biggest secret is that the truth is right out in the open.
raenamoxie 4 years ago
Thanks, I'll take a look at the book.
I'll be posting another video in a few days. It'll be suggesting some steps to be taken to make our constiturion work for all citizens, not just for the elite.
Bob Fowler
rwfwheeler 4 years ago
Ron Paul is the champion of the Constitution, if it's in there, he supports it.
Jmuduke 4 years ago
Dont believe everything you hear. Yeah I like Ron Paul too, but doesn't he seem a little TOO good to be true? Come on, hes a politician.
raenamoxie 4 years ago
great work robert! thank you!
F-O-A-V-C-dot-ORG
archer739 4 years ago
Thank you, sory for not responding sooner. Take a look at my ltest video?
Bob Fowler
rwfwheeler 4 years ago