What is the program you are using??? I'm using Brevecreatures, But I only have the screen saver.. I've watched it and I have to say I enjoy it allot! what program is this? if it is Brevecreatures, how do you do the things you are doing in the video?
Hey cool I had one like this, but it was way better, it curled up in a ball and sprang out jumping, rolling then springing up again. But I think I deleted it
@Mrxb0x I'm sometimes surprised to see which creatures people on youtube enjoy vs those that I enjoy. I find creatures like this one fun to watch, but somewhat disappointing as evolution results. Nearly 4000 views though! I'd never have guessed it would be so popular when I first posted it.
Once ive done the full 600 generations, ill start on experiment 1... most of my experiments go terribly wrong so ill just try to do ones other people make but dont have much CPU power...
Ok, im on generation 140 atm... ive found out how to get the rendering alot faster... when asked for settings use OpenGL Rendering subsystem rather than the default one and then change Video mode to 640 x 480 and colour depth 16... it looks pretty ugly sometimes but its worth it in rendering time, but these settings sometimes dont work on some computers
Oh, thanks for letting me know. On my machine DirectX runs faster. I'd figured that would be the same for everybody, but now I know even that can vary from one machine to another. Interesting.
Oh yes. Colour changes occur from time to time. Colour is a completely neutral trait. It has no effect on fitness at all. So colour is subject to genetic drift as well as other effects like hitchhiking (a colour-change mutation occuring together with some advantageous mutation, and the two spread through the population together).
Well, at generation 56 its starting to figure out that the white bit at the top is unbalancing it more when its on its top meaning that it is jumping higher every so often...
Should be interesting to see how much further it might evolve. It looks pretty crazy, but it does seem to eventually position it to make the final jump. Is there any selective pressure to be conservative with the amount of movement required to get to the result, or is the height of the jump the only factor in it's selection?
Only the height matters. To be more precise, the fitness is the largest net upward change in the vertical component of the creature's center of mass during allotted time. That value is also divided through by a measure of creature size to make sure big creatures have to jump higher than small ones.
The suggestion about taking the amount of energy or movement into account is a good one! Someone else made a similar comment to me a while ago. I think it's something I should eventually implement.
Interesting. One thing I've noticed is that some of the creatures seem to be quite unconservative in their structure, and some equivalent of genetic drift seems to be creeping in and allowing extra bits to not be taken off because of the lack of a selective pressure to be efficient. If limiting the creatures' mass and energy requirements were selective pressures, I suspect that would generate more conservatively made creatures. I don't know difficult that might be to implement though.
Some of the fitness measures have a "scaling" option that divides values (like distance or height) by creature "size". That size is a function of creature volume, so that creates a pressure to remove unneeded body parts and to shrink those that are needed.
I think there may be a plus to having that pressure turned off, though. The body keeps changing by the drift you mentioned, and I think that might be a good source of variation, alongside mutation. It would be an interesting thing to test.
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What is the program you are using??? I'm using Brevecreatures, But I only have the screen saver.. I've watched it and I have to say I enjoy it allot! what program is this? if it is Brevecreatures, how do you do the things you are doing in the video?
Hotface500 1 week ago
I had no freaking idea there were artificial life programs like this!! So amazing to watch evolution in progress.
5teampunker 3 weeks ago
Its so majestic O:
BallisticFat 6 months ago
ITS SO CUTE :D
stephanregorroger2 7 months ago
i still dont get hw you make this
ihavetoshutthewindow 8 months ago
Hey cool I had one like this, but it was way better, it curled up in a ball and sprang out jumping, rolling then springing up again. But I think I deleted it
Mrxb0x 1 year ago
@Mrxb0x I'm sometimes surprised to see which creatures people on youtube enjoy vs those that I enjoy. I find creatures like this one fun to watch, but somewhat disappointing as evolution results. Nearly 4000 views though! I'd never have guessed it would be so popular when I first posted it.
kjlg74 1 year ago
Once ive done the full 600 generations, ill start on experiment 1... most of my experiments go terribly wrong so ill just try to do ones other people make but dont have much CPU power...
treacle109 3 years ago
Ok, im on generation 140 atm... ive found out how to get the rendering alot faster... when asked for settings use OpenGL Rendering subsystem rather than the default one and then change Video mode to 640 x 480 and colour depth 16... it looks pretty ugly sometimes but its worth it in rendering time, but these settings sometimes dont work on some computers
treacle109 3 years ago
Oh, thanks for letting me know. On my machine DirectX runs faster. I'd figured that would be the same for everybody, but now I know even that can vary from one machine to another. Interesting.
kjlg74 3 years ago
hhmmm, it turned yellow?
treacle109 3 years ago
Oh yes. Colour changes occur from time to time. Colour is a completely neutral trait. It has no effect on fitness at all. So colour is subject to genetic drift as well as other effects like hitchhiking (a colour-change mutation occuring together with some advantageous mutation, and the two spread through the population together).
kjlg74 3 years ago
Well, at generation 56 its starting to figure out that the white bit at the top is unbalancing it more when its on its top meaning that it is jumping higher every so often...
treacle109 3 years ago
So it's shrinking the white part? Or making more centered against the spiral? Just curious.
kjlg74 3 years ago
its getting rid of it completely... it helps to get it in agood position, but happens 4 maybe 5 times a generation
treacle109 3 years ago
Should be interesting to see how much further it might evolve. It looks pretty crazy, but it does seem to eventually position it to make the final jump. Is there any selective pressure to be conservative with the amount of movement required to get to the result, or is the height of the jump the only factor in it's selection?
theinquisitor 3 years ago
Only the height matters. To be more precise, the fitness is the largest net upward change in the vertical component of the creature's center of mass during allotted time. That value is also divided through by a measure of creature size to make sure big creatures have to jump higher than small ones.
The suggestion about taking the amount of energy or movement into account is a good one! Someone else made a similar comment to me a while ago. I think it's something I should eventually implement.
kjlg74 3 years ago
Interesting. One thing I've noticed is that some of the creatures seem to be quite unconservative in their structure, and some equivalent of genetic drift seems to be creeping in and allowing extra bits to not be taken off because of the lack of a selective pressure to be efficient. If limiting the creatures' mass and energy requirements were selective pressures, I suspect that would generate more conservatively made creatures. I don't know difficult that might be to implement though.
theinquisitor 3 years ago
Some of the fitness measures have a "scaling" option that divides values (like distance or height) by creature "size". That size is a function of creature volume, so that creates a pressure to remove unneeded body parts and to shrink those that are needed.
I think there may be a plus to having that pressure turned off, though. The body keeps changing by the drift you mentioned, and I think that might be a good source of variation, alongside mutation. It would be an interesting thing to test.
kjlg74 3 years ago
Lol, i love that this program never has the same 2 results every time u run an evolution from scratch...
treacle109 3 years ago
Yeah, they're pretty different every time. :)
kjlg74 3 years ago