dc motors work like genarators when they are turned add it to the pully system and you got exstra energey sorce learend about it by reserching wind power i use a razor scootor motor dont hook it to your charging system it will fry the baterie the faster it turnes the more juice so srait to hho cell and you shold add a pop off valve to your bubbeler i see you have the room top opist sighed tell every one make a viedo and dont forget me
That one that you bought. Their video can't be true. Lets say 600 feet per minute of air going into the engine at idle. The fuel jet at idle is metered to the amount of air going past it in the venturi. 14 to 1 mixture. Just adding another gas at idle, going to pick up that same amount of gasoline. It could increase the idle speed on a lean mixture. Time on running would be the same. The gasoline doesn't lean out to make that truck run longer. I do know one can over produce HHO!
Thought I would add to my post. I have been filling up around every 100 miles. My last fill up was 130 miles @2.3 gallons. Two, 40 miles round trips on a 55 mph highway. Then 50 miles around town. I got what I wanted, to at least = the cost of gasoline. Diesel is 50 to 75 cents a gallon more. Interesting the AAA experts say that the extra weight, uses more fuel, than hot day fill up. My wife drove one of those 40 mile trips. Seem to not hurt as much every 100 miles. I want to add an extra HHO.
No, I made my own. Simple and small, I replace the water about every 1,500 miles. Thinking about adding a second. As I said before, that puts out way to much gas. The AMPS are to high.A Additive into the intake so less gasoline is used? 5 to 10% is what I was after. So I jumped 45 47 to 50 52. MPG Highway, 44 around town. It is interesting no one will really say it works or give real figures. I just did. A OBD 2 car would be a pain in the butt to add your kind of gas producer in its system.
I guess on here they won't let me install a news report video. I tried two times. No, from what I understand. They might try that on this second test! Google (Hydranox 5000). Watch a news report. Most cars after 97 could have 2 OXs sensors. One before the cat and one after. Pre OBD2 only one.
I don't know if you listen to Coast to Coast, late night radio. They installed a device on a Ford Mustang with OBD2. It lowered there mileage by two miles a gallon. My 86 Turbo VW diesel on July 4th weekend. I got 52 mpg going to Sacramento with a tail wind. To back it up going west it got 51mpg. The best it ever got any time was 48. Could never get worst 45-47. Looks like around town a strong 44.
Dr. Lear, of Lear jet fame same problem on OBD2 car. He is still playing around with it.
I don't know if you listen to Coast to Coast, but they installed a unit on a Ford Mustang with OBD 2. It lowered their fuel mileage by 2 miles a gallon. They only drove 240 miles. My diesel on a 200 mile trip got 52 miles a gallon with a tail wind. On the way back 51!! Best ever was 48! Could always get 45 to 47 mpg on the highway. System sucks for OBD 2 systems cars. Another real engineer had the same problem! The OBD 2 ox sensor readings. Dr. Lear of Lear jet fame! Another play toy for him!
Are you still planning to run an HHO system? If there are any leaks in your generator with manifold vacuum,it will suck up the generator water. A hose at ported vacuum. Manifold vacuum is at it highest when you don't want that extra fuel. When you want your fuel is before the throttle valve. So when that is opening your pulling the fuel! That video that this gen. Came from. Can't be real time. The carb is a metered system. Gas idle jets, metered air! doesn't know hydrogen in there.
why we care about the oxygen sensor as long as he control the auto injection only at parking vehicle condition or when we not pressing on gas clutch which is not big deal if you one of those turn his car right away when he park ...so i think no problem if i get 2000 rpm in parking or idling ..if it is gonna be for very very short time.
so what you think ....
because you still saving fuel when you get 2500 rpm with less gas clutch pressing.
i am thinking to not bypass my oxygen sensor which is he order more fuel to be inject {only} in idling mode which is for me it is not big period ...so the question here ...is it right that the oxygen sensor order the ECM to inject more fuel ONLY in idling condition.
so if it is right therefor the oxygen sensor will do nothing if gonna find too much O2 in exhaust line while you pressing on gas clutch in normal driving mode with HHO generator ON.
My best advice is for you to try your system and see how it works for you. You can always go back and modify things later.
Just to be clear: When using the EFIE we are not bypassing the O2 sensor, just adding to its existing signal to hide (efficient burn) from the computer.
I figured out how to fix your generator! Put the old float back in! Build a baffle just below the drop of the float. Drill holes in it to have your replacement water to fill in! Run the hose to the air filter box. I wonder how long this will run without the extra tank? If the rod is threaded use nuts to adjust the baffle. Man this is a strong unit!
Silly man, I figured out how to fix it too! Though the float and auto-fill system does work as it came stock with this generator, it is not dependable enough for me. I understand what you are trying to say, but why bother with a float system when it is not needed?
I hope to see a flashback arrestor on this b4 it goes in the car... there will be enough hydrogen in your top tank to lift your bonnet if it happens to blow.I blew a cell a little while ago...nasty!
Your system is way to big! I know I made my own. It will never work. Replace your washers. They are to close to the edge. 3/4 to 1/2 of an inch gap maybe. Then you will never be able to replace the water. This is called a brown water generator. The negative side wears down. If you want more gas add another system then. More gas add another one.
Then drill a water hole in the bottom of your air filter box to drain any water. My system has pulling that much it blew a 20 amp fuse.
To big for what? It fits in my car just fine. I have no problem draining the water from the generator with the .185 gap. What good would a bigger gap do?
Have you watched the videos that johnaarons has made? He is getting twice the production you are, I asked him if he had tried using a external water supply like you have but he hasn't so far, I think if you guys are right on the verge of making this work unfortunately John doesn't work with others but maybe you could try some of his ideas with yours.
Yes, I have seen some of John Aarons videos. He does very interesting work. I am aware that many people are getting more production than this Magdrive generator. I am currently working on my own design for hydrogen generation based on ideas and theories that I have come across in research. As things progress, there will be postings.
Thank you for yet another excellent video! I was wondering if anyone has tried spacing the washers closer together? I know cells built with plate and tubes seem to work better with the closer spacing.
I have not tried it, no. I'm not sure if it would make any difference since the washers are all on the same electrode. It would not change the positive to negative electrode gap, but I have not tried it, so I don't know.
Thank you. I do believe it is square wave, but not really sure. On my front YouTube page, there is a link to my web page. There you will find links to suppliers.
Sunny nice video, question how much hydrogen are you producing now that you have converted it over?. How many amps are you drawing when the unit gets to full temperature?. So of the people selling full saturation units say they run cooler I have not found this to be true, keep up the videos your are the best on the Tube.
I have yet to take any temp readings, but will do it soon. The unit produces around 500mL/Minute each of the several times I have tested it since conversion, at around 20A.
so you have siezers on a regular basis? they say that ppl who have these are super intelegent, but die early. i hope u were not haveing siezers. may god cure you of ur siezers!
Nice work on the Videos! I've enjoyed the series so far!
I have the same MaxGen unit that I bought last year and had similar problems with rust bloom and water getting sucked into vacuum line and into the intake every time I turned the corner. I added a moisture trap but feel that converting it the way you are illustrating to a full system with external tank is the way to go. You should let it run for a while on the bench at 20 AMPs and see how hot the unit and electrolyte solution get.
The drain cleaner has Sodium and Potassium Hydroxide in it. I'm experimenting. I heard that sodium hydroxide cuts down on iron oxide bloom (rust) so I am trying it out. Sodium bicarbonate (Baking soda) results in a lot of this rust. The vinegar does not work well in this generator. I also have heard 1-2 liters, but shown in the video is this generators capability, or lack there of.
dc motors work like genarators when they are turned add it to the pully system and you got exstra energey sorce learend about it by reserching wind power i use a razor scootor motor dont hook it to your charging system it will fry the baterie the faster it turnes the more juice so srait to hho cell and you shold add a pop off valve to your bubbeler i see you have the room top opist sighed tell every one make a viedo and dont forget me
zuseable 1 year ago
lol !!! la com ç ti tombe !!! sinn cool l'experience
superdanie972 2 years ago
Dude your funny!
tegf4 3 years ago
Nice setup you got there :)
InventorGadget 3 years ago
C2C last night, they talked about HHO the one Lear had put on a obd2 car. 38 mpg increase. They did not say what he did.
Dartacar 3 years ago
That one that you bought. Their video can't be true. Lets say 600 feet per minute of air going into the engine at idle. The fuel jet at idle is metered to the amount of air going past it in the venturi. 14 to 1 mixture. Just adding another gas at idle, going to pick up that same amount of gasoline. It could increase the idle speed on a lean mixture. Time on running would be the same. The gasoline doesn't lean out to make that truck run longer. I do know one can over produce HHO!
Dartacar 3 years ago
Thought I would add to my post. I have been filling up around every 100 miles. My last fill up was 130 miles @2.3 gallons. Two, 40 miles round trips on a 55 mph highway. Then 50 miles around town. I got what I wanted, to at least = the cost of gasoline. Diesel is 50 to 75 cents a gallon more. Interesting the AAA experts say that the extra weight, uses more fuel, than hot day fill up. My wife drove one of those 40 mile trips. Seem to not hurt as much every 100 miles. I want to add an extra HHO.
Dartacar 3 years ago
No, I made my own. Simple and small, I replace the water about every 1,500 miles. Thinking about adding a second. As I said before, that puts out way to much gas. The AMPS are to high.A Additive into the intake so less gasoline is used? 5 to 10% is what I was after. So I jumped 45 47 to 50 52. MPG Highway, 44 around town. It is interesting no one will really say it works or give real figures. I just did. A OBD 2 car would be a pain in the butt to add your kind of gas producer in its system.
Dartacar 3 years ago
I guess on here they won't let me install a news report video. I tried two times. No, from what I understand. They might try that on this second test! Google (Hydranox 5000). Watch a news report. Most cars after 97 could have 2 OXs sensors. One before the cat and one after. Pre OBD2 only one.
Dartacar 3 years ago
Do you use this generator? Or do you use something else?
sunny5rising 3 years ago
I don't know if you listen to Coast to Coast, late night radio. They installed a device on a Ford Mustang with OBD2. It lowered there mileage by two miles a gallon. My 86 Turbo VW diesel on July 4th weekend. I got 52 mpg going to Sacramento with a tail wind. To back it up going west it got 51mpg. The best it ever got any time was 48. Could never get worst 45-47. Looks like around town a strong 44.
Dr. Lear, of Lear jet fame same problem on OBD2 car. He is still playing around with it.
Dartacar 3 years ago
Do you know if they attempted to modify the O2 readings?
sunny5rising 3 years ago
I don't know if you listen to Coast to Coast, but they installed a unit on a Ford Mustang with OBD 2. It lowered their fuel mileage by 2 miles a gallon. They only drove 240 miles. My diesel on a 200 mile trip got 52 miles a gallon with a tail wind. On the way back 51!! Best ever was 48! Could always get 45 to 47 mpg on the highway. System sucks for OBD 2 systems cars. Another real engineer had the same problem! The OBD 2 ox sensor readings. Dr. Lear of Lear jet fame! Another play toy for him!
Dartacar 3 years ago
dude.. I laughed all night here watchin your vids... thats some funny shit
im a subscriber now
roompainter 3 years ago
Excellent!
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Are you still planning to run an HHO system? If there are any leaks in your generator with manifold vacuum,it will suck up the generator water. A hose at ported vacuum. Manifold vacuum is at it highest when you don't want that extra fuel. When you want your fuel is before the throttle valve. So when that is opening your pulling the fuel! That video that this gen. Came from. Can't be real time. The carb is a metered system. Gas idle jets, metered air! doesn't know hydrogen in there.
Nice Videos!!
Dartacar 3 years ago
Yes, I plan on running HHO, just not this system. I am currently building my own system from scratch.
I am very aware of manifold vacuum and the havoc it can cause, been there, lol.
I will hook it up to before the throttle plate. There it will be pushed into the intake air stream, rather than being pulled.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
hi,please answer my question :
why we care about the oxygen sensor as long as he control the auto injection only at parking vehicle condition or when we not pressing on gas clutch which is not big deal if you one of those turn his car right away when he park ...so i think no problem if i get 2000 rpm in parking or idling ..if it is gonna be for very very short time.
so what you think ....
because you still saving fuel when you get 2500 rpm with less gas clutch pressing.
mahermakhoul 3 years ago
I apologize, but could you please rephrase that?
sunny5rising 3 years ago
i am thinking to not bypass my oxygen sensor which is he order more fuel to be inject {only} in idling mode which is for me it is not big period ...so the question here ...is it right that the oxygen sensor order the ECM to inject more fuel ONLY in idling condition.
so if it is right therefor the oxygen sensor will do nothing if gonna find too much O2 in exhaust line while you pressing on gas clutch in normal driving mode with HHO generator ON.
mahermakhoul 3 years ago
My best advice is for you to try your system and see how it works for you. You can always go back and modify things later.
Just to be clear: When using the EFIE we are not bypassing the O2 sensor, just adding to its existing signal to hide (efficient burn) from the computer.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
I figured out how to fix your generator! Put the old float back in! Build a baffle just below the drop of the float. Drill holes in it to have your replacement water to fill in! Run the hose to the air filter box. I wonder how long this will run without the extra tank? If the rod is threaded use nuts to adjust the baffle. Man this is a strong unit!
Dartacar 3 years ago
Silly man, I figured out how to fix it too! Though the float and auto-fill system does work as it came stock with this generator, it is not dependable enough for me. I understand what you are trying to say, but why bother with a float system when it is not needed?
sunny5rising 3 years ago
I hope to see a flashback arrestor on this b4 it goes in the car... there will be enough hydrogen in your top tank to lift your bonnet if it happens to blow.I blew a cell a little while ago...nasty!
I love your videos.
G.
baw1baw 3 years ago
Thank you. Flashback arrestor...You better believe it!
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Your system is way to big! I know I made my own. It will never work. Replace your washers. They are to close to the edge. 3/4 to 1/2 of an inch gap maybe. Then you will never be able to replace the water. This is called a brown water generator. The negative side wears down. If you want more gas add another system then. More gas add another one.
Then drill a water hole in the bottom of your air filter box to drain any water. My system has pulling that much it blew a 20 amp fuse.
Good Luck!
Dartacar 3 years ago
To big for what? It fits in my car just fine. I have no problem draining the water from the generator with the .185 gap. What good would a bigger gap do?
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Have you watched the videos that johnaarons has made? He is getting twice the production you are, I asked him if he had tried using a external water supply like you have but he hasn't so far, I think if you guys are right on the verge of making this work unfortunately John doesn't work with others but maybe you could try some of his ideas with yours.
F4FPhantomII 3 years ago
Yes, I have seen some of John Aarons videos. He does very interesting work. I am aware that many people are getting more production than this Magdrive generator. I am currently working on my own design for hydrogen generation based on ideas and theories that I have come across in research. As things progress, there will be postings.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Thank you for yet another excellent video! I was wondering if anyone has tried spacing the washers closer together? I know cells built with plate and tubes seem to work better with the closer spacing.
syncromon 3 years ago
I have not tried it, no. I'm not sure if it would make any difference since the washers are all on the same electrode. It would not change the positive to negative electrode gap, but I have not tried it, so I don't know.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Great job on the videos educational and entertaining. Where did you get your PWM does create a square wave pattern?
jazzwantobe 3 years ago
Thank you. I do believe it is square wave, but not really sure. On my front YouTube page, there is a link to my web page. There you will find links to suppliers.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Sunny nice video, question how much hydrogen are you producing now that you have converted it over?. How many amps are you drawing when the unit gets to full temperature?. So of the people selling full saturation units say they run cooler I have not found this to be true, keep up the videos your are the best on the Tube.
hydrogenassist 3 years ago
I have yet to take any temp readings, but will do it soon. The unit produces around 500mL/Minute each of the several times I have tested it since conversion, at around 20A.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
dude did u just have 2 siezers durring this video? cuz u fell twice!
blazedkirby 3 years ago
Yes, it was a bad day, lol.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
so you have siezers on a regular basis? they say that ppl who have these are super intelegent, but die early. i hope u were not haveing siezers. may god cure you of ur siezers!
blazedkirby 3 years ago
I don't have them. I'm just goofy and my kids think it's funny.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Nice work on the Videos! I've enjoyed the series so far!
I have the same MaxGen unit that I bought last year and had similar problems with rust bloom and water getting sucked into vacuum line and into the intake every time I turned the corner. I added a moisture trap but feel that converting it the way you are illustrating to a full system with external tank is the way to go. You should let it run for a while on the bench at 20 AMPs and see how hot the unit and electrolyte solution get.
samdogfilms 3 years ago
Wow, someone besides me who has not sent their Magdrive unit back, lol.
I will measure the temperature on my next run.
sunny5rising 3 years ago
5 starts from me.
josejir 3 years ago
Excellent!
sunny5rising 3 years ago
Why use drain cleaner for electrolyte?
Does it not work as well as vinegar or baking soda?
I read somewhere that you need to produce at least 1-2 liters per min of HHO to start to see any difference in gas milage.
samdogfilms 3 years ago
The drain cleaner has Sodium and Potassium Hydroxide in it. I'm experimenting. I heard that sodium hydroxide cuts down on iron oxide bloom (rust) so I am trying it out. Sodium bicarbonate (Baking soda) results in a lot of this rust. The vinegar does not work well in this generator. I also have heard 1-2 liters, but shown in the video is this generators capability, or lack there of.
sunny5rising 3 years ago