Hey, I was wondering if you planned to try to do a team battle pantheon or had one and just not uploaded it yet. I remember you mentioning in one of your other team battle videos that you had tried, but the other team banned pantheon like a bunch of scumbag steves.
@IamPapercut The shield proc has a minimum damage threshold, this means it won't use up his shield if say a minion does 1 dmg while a champ autohits for 200, it needs a certain amount of damage to "use" the shield proc.
What makes longsword at start so bad? For like a champ like lee sin who can start with prob all items isnt it good because it increases your speed and builds into wriggles.
@haarbal1997 no defense or enough sustain for junglers like panth, and for lee you want to go half and half on defensive or offensive stats so dorans blade start is way better
While I appreciate the effort you made to make this video, it's a bit of an academic exercise isn't it? If you're farming the jungle after lvl 2 with red or blue buff, you're not going to cut it with pantheon. It's a high risk / high reward jungle choice that doesn't support afk farming to 6 ala skarner.
@SkatinBoy244 I, and others, have tried, and it doesn't work.
Other people have tried, and it works for them. There's even a video of it somewhere on Youtube. However, I do not know why it doesn't work for myself and others.
@louie894 For Pantheon 21-9-0 is just much better for transition, so unless you're dying/using an inferior route because of lack of defense, take the offense. But if you are dying, consider 9-21-0 or even 0-21-9 for more defense and all around tankiness.
I personally start out with a vampiric scepter. Runes: 21 attack speed, 10 armor pen, 13 armor. With the lifesteal and the more frequent procs on the shield, this build gives him a bit more early game sustainability in the jungle. I get a leash on blue because afterward his hp stays about the same.
@Stonewall: Assuming your Getting a reasonable pull, what Item would you start with ? Still Cloth+5 pots because he is without Sustain ? Vamp Sceptre for Life steal sustain and to build into Wriggles ? or boots because he transitions poorly if he doesn't gank ?
U kno wen you have creeps on like 10 hp left and its a pain to waste time to auto attack?
HSS passive: Crit under 15% hp, kills them so you dont have to waste an aa on them. And it helps with doing buffs faster as you do twice as much damage to them wen they are less than 15% hp.
I don't mean to be stupid or anything but I want to know why you don't record videos without those black bars on the side. Is it because of fraps? your computer? etc? Sorry, if I'm being an ignoramus.
do u think he can do my lee sin path? I like to get a leash on red, after finsihed up red , ur lv2, so 1 lv Q and 1 Lv W
that's really good with red buff proc , like if ur mid has a morg or sion anyone with a good stun, u can Q, walk up nromal atk, and W , pretty much they'll be dead even with flash etc, that' lv2 gank will make they mid falls off, i do that with lee sin in ranked game and it works for me, what u think stonewall?
@stonewall008 But that does kinda bring up a good point. Why get E at all at level 2 when you didn't even use it? makes absolutely no sense to go E if you're not using it
@quicksilver406 i'm actually going to do a video on that. Mostly AoE junglers prefer going back for wolves if they're moderate speed, single target can deal with golems (but rather not if they don't have the sustain), directly to red is the fastest path but you won't have smite - however pantheon may want that since he doesn't want his red contested, so on and so forth. Backing for wolves is the "safest" path and it is why i've showcased it for most junglers.
@stonewall008 hes a guy who uploads vids of streamers like hotshot and bigfat, and he blocks everyone who says first, but if u havent heard of him then it wouldnt make sense... lol
Get ASPD Blue, then your shield procs more often.
Arc8Angel 2 days ago
Team battle pantheon :D Please
dyslexicmelon 1 week ago
Hey, I was wondering if you planned to try to do a team battle pantheon or had one and just not uploaded it yet. I remember you mentioning in one of your other team battle videos that you had tried, but the other team banned pantheon like a bunch of scumbag steves.
samplesowoopass 1 week ago
hey stonwall008, why not run all attack speed for red and blue. so his passive will procs more and jungles faster (maybe)
jason271828 1 week ago
is there any difference between choosing 25 armor pent to +22 atk dmg when it comes to jungling?
ZeTaCk1 1 week ago
hmm you never used your E skill so we can better choose W for ganks right?
CrimsonGamertag 2 weeks ago
Y don't you use your e skill
Awsorne 3 weeks ago
@Awsorne it costs a lot of mana and the only reason u get it is for its passive. Also it doesnt do much dmg to creeps at early lvls
goldsmash9 2 weeks ago
stonewall why you remove me from friends :(
me sad
<--kdj0929
SKoreanDJ 3 weeks ago
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Kennenuxo 3 weeks ago
what are the blue runes used in this vid?
omgwtflloololo 4 weeks ago
what would i do without you?
chargersnoob 1 month ago
Do all smaller monsters do magic damage? I notice that Panth pass didn't stop any of theirs attack.
IamPapercut 1 month ago
@IamPapercut The shield proc has a minimum damage threshold, this means it won't use up his shield if say a minion does 1 dmg while a champ autohits for 200, it needs a certain amount of damage to "use" the shield proc.
Fl4m30f3d3n 1 month ago
Why do you write in the comments, that you skill e for jungle? You actually didn't used e.
Does it make you faster or not?
indraymond 1 month ago
@indraymond It gives 100% crit for low hp enemies, I'd actually even take increased CrD for panth for that sole reason.
MarketStaller 1 month ago
@indraymond it makes you faster than taking the stun that cannot be used on creeps
flareblade24 1 month ago
Is it possible to use armor pen quints and all ad reds? ...or will there be struggling, have pants being pulled down, and being F'd in the A?
GothamCrusader01 1 month ago
@GothamCrusader01 it should still work. It's only a loss of about 1 AD or so
stonewall008 1 month ago
@GothamCrusader01 Always run AD quints first - they are better comparatively to ArPen than marks are.
DarkTwinge 1 month ago
Just a general question, but can I jungle AD with a 25 ArP/armor/MR page? Or are the AD runes a neccesity for jungling?
DneBays 1 month ago
@DneBays 25 ArP is still good :) But a little slow-ish. emphasis on the 'ish'.
OkamiSojirou 1 month ago
why do you always jungle
YouAintRogue 1 month ago
@YouAintRogue because he's an amazing jungler?
SheffiTB 1 month ago
Blazing Hot! Thumbs Up!
NEWPASSW0RD 1 month ago
Loving the musics.
ShinobiBoiX 1 month ago
What makes longsword at start so bad? For like a champ like lee sin who can start with prob all items isnt it good because it increases your speed and builds into wriggles.
haarbal1997 1 month ago
@haarbal1997 no defense or enough sustain for junglers like panth, and for lee you want to go half and half on defensive or offensive stats so dorans blade start is way better
SomeCrudLayingAround 1 month ago
While I appreciate the effort you made to make this video, it's a bit of an academic exercise isn't it? If you're farming the jungle after lvl 2 with red or blue buff, you're not going to cut it with pantheon. It's a high risk / high reward jungle choice that doesn't support afk farming to 6 ala skarner.
Drokkkkk 1 month ago
Jungle Pantheon is probably the most fun I've had jungling in a long time. Dem ganks, holy shit.
Emperor696 1 month ago 2
If you get 2.500 Attack speed can you tank the tower with your passive faster than the tower attacks??
SkatinBoy244 1 month ago
@SkatinBoy244 I, and others, have tried, and it doesn't work.
Other people have tried, and it works for them. There's even a video of it somewhere on Youtube. However, I do not know why it doesn't work for myself and others.
MrDoomPigeon 1 month ago
Hm why not use AS runes? Helps you proc the passive and should help with the jungling speed in general.
elitedesolator 1 month ago
Stonewall, quick question. Is going 21-9-0 better than 9-21-0? From the not so skilled at jungling person. :)
louie894 1 month ago
@louie894 21 offense - since you're an AD caster, you're expected to kill something in 1-2 combo rotations.
stonewall008 1 month ago 5
@louie894 For Pantheon 21-9-0 is just much better for transition, so unless you're dying/using an inferior route because of lack of defense, take the offense. But if you are dying, consider 9-21-0 or even 0-21-9 for more defense and all around tankiness.
MarketStaller 1 month ago
The bad part about jungle Panth is that you can´t lvl your E first because it´s so bad for jungling.
But when fighting enemy Champs it deals way more dmg.
Toastbrot1234567 1 month ago
Thx Stonewall,those videos rly help.First time jungle Panthe 20mins - 16/2/4
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Just for me!
Fryth 1 month ago
The top comments have more likes than the video :(
MrDrugnut 1 month ago
I personally start out with a vampiric scepter. Runes: 21 attack speed, 10 armor pen, 13 armor. With the lifesteal and the more frequent procs on the shield, this build gives him a bit more early game sustainability in the jungle. I get a leash on blue because afterward his hp stays about the same.
favoritedeath 1 month ago
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favoritedeath 1 month ago
@stonewall008 I'm waiting for General Wiser to say "blocked"
TheWojtz 1 month ago
FINALLY A PHANT GUIDE! WAS WAITING FOR IT! ty <3
SHOCKERownerR 1 month ago
ty for this video its nice like always :)
appelvlapful 1 month ago
on ad quints and ad red is it flat or per lvl?
Stoffe408 1 month ago
@Stoffe408 probably flat to clear the jungle faster, per level isnt that great for a jungler when it comes to AD
Zarutoks 1 month ago
Stonewall do you ever gank at 2 with Mantheon?
Lizstomaniac 1 month ago
watch?v=Kzrqi9YFHWc&feature=channel_video_title
full game play
Tyson95vo 1 month ago
Am I the only one who 1:56 moment of music reminded W3?
Midaspl 1 month ago
What blues were used in the vid ?
Dragoncro0wn 1 month ago
@Dragoncro0wn most likely attack speed or MR per level
Zarutoks 1 month ago
@Stonewall: Assuming your Getting a reasonable pull, what Item would you start with ? Still Cloth+5 pots because he is without Sustain ? Vamp Sceptre for Life steal sustain and to build into Wriggles ? or boots because he transitions poorly if he doesn't gank ?
DjFiremind 1 month ago
@DjFiremind boots + Doran's blades
stonewall008 1 month ago 5
@stonewall008 Thanks. Now to wait for the Full game Pantheon that got cockblocked last time you had to do a Full game Udyr.
See ? I listen and stuff. I almost feel like I'm not a complete Lol nerd.
...Wait...that reaffirms me as a Lol nerd. Curses !
DjFiremind 1 month ago
I never played Pante, could anybody explain why he dont use that E spell?
TwilightForces 1 month ago
@TwilightForces E does half damage to minions/creeps so its more damage to use keep autoattacking.
russmanYT 1 month ago
@russmanYT lol okay oO
TwilightForces 1 month ago
i would like to see a team battle pantheon video
NecroForsaken 1 month ago
Are you by any chance doing a Mundo video soon, I got some pretty good results out of him myself using the wraiths path.
wizzkiller92 1 month ago
The song... inspires me
MrDrugnut 1 month ago
Hai stonewall, just want to say you do one hell of a job making these videos :) please keep up the awesome work, u bring varity to us junglers ;)
dan1elgott 1 month ago
U kno wen you have creeps on like 10 hp left and its a pain to waste time to auto attack?
HSS passive: Crit under 15% hp, kills them so you dont have to waste an aa on them. And it helps with doing buffs faster as you do twice as much damage to them wen they are less than 15% hp.
kazeikan 1 month ago
@ChronicleOfTime Crit if below 15% hp.
9573756 1 month ago
Jungle brand next!
robaphone20 1 month ago
yay ;D
Darkreaper71 1 month ago
Those tags... lol
ClayMoreSP12 1 month ago
Is their anybody you can't jungle with?
littleal14 1 month ago
@littleal14 Evelynn
Daman3tm 1 month ago
I don't mean to be stupid or anything but I want to know why you don't record videos without those black bars on the side. Is it because of fraps? your computer? etc? Sorry, if I'm being an ignoramus.
StanleyKingChan 1 month ago
@StanleyKingChan Probably a resolution thing.
jimbob12ist 1 month ago
@StanleyKingChan because of publishing program i use
stonewall008 1 month ago 13
@stonewall008 same thing happens to me i use windows movie maker though :P
Slay3rn3cro 1 month ago
Stonewall, You have the same skin as mine ^^ yay!
MrAzxza 1 month ago
do u think he can do my lee sin path? I like to get a leash on red, after finsihed up red , ur lv2, so 1 lv Q and 1 Lv W
that's really good with red buff proc , like if ur mid has a morg or sion anyone with a good stun, u can Q, walk up nromal atk, and W , pretty much they'll be dead even with flash etc, that' lv2 gank will make they mid falls off, i do that with lee sin in ranked game and it works for me, what u think stonewall?
UknowJiaJun 1 month ago
What do you think of starting vamp scepter and with E to get the guaranteed crit?
wizard2878 1 month ago
@wizard2878 have fun waiting for them to be below 15% hp :D normally people just smite blue so..
OkamiSojirou 1 month ago
hey stonewall, now with the new jungle, whats the fastest way to get expirence for those level 6 people such as ww?
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Since E is useless in the jungle, why not get W at level 2 for early ganks?
MB4493 1 month ago
@MB4493 Since I usually write stuff in the description, why not read the thing i put in the skill order before commentating?
stonewall008 1 month ago 81
@stonewall008 I'm sorry Stonewall. I'm ready for my spanking. You can use the big paddle this time.
MB4493 1 month ago 3
@MB4493 l0l0l0l0l
resofdareses 1 month ago
@stonewall008 I think he was asking if it's useless in the jungle why would you get it to continue jungling.
MajorSquiggles 1 month ago
@MajorSquiggles passive of HSS
fakeouch 1 month ago
@stonewall008 But that does kinda bring up a good point. Why get E at all at level 2 when you didn't even use it? makes absolutely no sense to go E if you're not using it
ChronicleOfTime 1 month ago
@ChronicleOfTime The crit.
anshkansara 1 month ago
@MB4493 to get the passive from E just so you can crit jungle creeps with low hp
luxgranja 1 month ago
hey stonewall, what is the deciding factor in the choice between doing wolves twice before red or doing wraiths a second time after golems?
quicksilver406 1 month ago 5
@quicksilver406 i'm actually going to do a video on that. Mostly AoE junglers prefer going back for wolves if they're moderate speed, single target can deal with golems (but rather not if they don't have the sustain), directly to red is the fastest path but you won't have smite - however pantheon may want that since he doesn't want his red contested, so on and so forth. Backing for wolves is the "safest" path and it is why i've showcased it for most junglers.
stonewall008 1 month ago 19
Jungle Veigar!!
q2349phyu 1 month ago
E doesnt deal enough dmg against minions, its useless to use it in the jungle
DeasOlsen 1 month ago
why level up the e once if your not using it?
opposition22 1 month ago
@opposition22 because you will 100% crit on any enemy/minon/monster with less than 20% hp
SP3LLBR34K3r 1 month ago
Yes i have been wanting this, and team battle panth ofcourse
MrGibjab 1 month ago
why not use your e on creeps?
Bobert7397 1 month ago
@Bobert7397 not enough dmg.. half dmg on 3
fakeouch 1 month ago
why dont you use E at all?
ThunderRiceMan 1 month ago
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@ThunderRiceMan if u use e u take too much dmg and do to little dmg to the creeps
if u auto attack and q ur block will trigger more often ull kill the creeps faster and ull take less dmg
thegreywizard96 1 month ago
Damn, Stonewall I wanted to be a ginormous faggot and call first. You win this time... BUT I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE
osvaldo1337 1 month ago 123
Phant has a 12inch dick
TruffelChocolade 1 month ago
sixth
SnailMuffin 1 month ago
<3
soadfan1508 1 month ago
STONEWALL HAVE MY BABIES ;P
MakerWaffle 1 month ago
Chinese art is WAY to OP
MadeToSubscribe2 1 month ago
hahaha
aznanthony2321 1 month ago
Oh you!
SemiSpark 1 month ago
first
stonewall008 1 month ago 180
@stonewall008 oh u
Danroedraco 1 month ago
@stonewall008 Why dont you use your E?
latinajoseph 1 month ago
@latinajoseph if u use e u take too much dmg and do to little dmg to the creeps
if u auto attack and q ur block will trigger more often ull kill the creeps faster and ull take less dmg
thegreywizard96 1 month ago
@stonewall008 would be funny if wiser came to this video and said blocked
luxgranja 1 month ago
@stonewall008 oh stonewall bad decision, generalwiser will have u blocked for this
Tw1nkiez 1 month ago
@Tw1nkiez the fuck are you talking about
stonewall008 1 month ago
@Tw1nkiez i don't know who generalwiser is - but there is no way he can block me for uploading this.
stonewall008 1 month ago
@stonewall008 hes a guy who uploads vids of streamers like hotshot and bigfat, and he blocks everyone who says first, but if u havent heard of him then it wouldnt make sense... lol
Tw1nkiez 1 month ago