@hernandezMX10 ok, 4 strokes are more suited to the incompetent rider as they are so easy to ride you dont need to work the bike that hard where as the 2 stroke you need to be constantly up and down the box working the bike to get its full potential and if they are for girls i take it travis pastrana is one since he prefers the 2 stoke
@m1n7y i dont really care which kind of bike is better... i prefer to ride a 450f than a 250s both bike are aswome if you know how to ride them... i know how to ride them both i just dont like 2 strokes no big deal
My 1991 cr500 puts 56 hp STOCK. with the FMF pipe and silencer its about 60 hp. If you cant feel the power on a two stroke then ur riding it wrong. Like Grant said, keep it pinned.
@KXRider212 haha you really don't know your stuff, and that's obvious. If a stock 450 comes with 52hp lets say, and Stewart's bike supposedly makes only 57hp, so with a full Akra exhaust, full race head and bottom end, race gas, race ignition, full ti bolt kit to drop weight, and his bike only gains 5 hp? Yeah right, thats why they invest 10's of thousands of dollars on little things that give them an edge, you my friend are the true fucking idiot not knowing what your talking about.
My RM250 does about 48HP STOCK. Ive had the motor ported and polished, the cases blueprinted to match the barrel, Full FMF exhaust, bored carb 1mm, Vertex High performance piston, Balanced Crank V Force 3 reeds, ive gained about 4HP, im pulling about 52HP. Ive also had the suspension valved for my weight, coated stauntions, and run race fuel.
This MAY allow me to gain 1/10 of a second per lap if im lucky.
10 Laps later, thats 1 SECOND. 1 second is a MASSIVE advantage. words cant discribe how big 1 second over another rider is.
Acrapovic states on their website that they can get 51HP out of their bike with the full evoloution system. IT is almost impossible to pull 6HP out of a already stock racemotor.
Yamaha will invest MILLIONS to gain 1/10 of a second at supercross.
@jmicm13 and JGR 450's dont do NEAR 70HP, they say on their website that they are lucky to get 60HP max. Speed comes from a worked motor with 5-6HP more than stock, suspension mods, and a rider that can watch himself on video, and learn to shave another 1/10 of a second by riding the track better. just sayin 2011 CRF250R 36HP 2011 CRF450R 49HP 2011 150SX 37HP 2008 RM250 48HP 2011 350SXF 56HP 2011 300XCW 56HP 2011 CR500AF 65HP 1989 CR500 56HP 2011 Maico 800 75HP
@jmicm13 SHOW ME ANY respected dyno (NOT motoUSA - they are bias, and NOONE respects their opinion) showing a 450 doing ANY more than 54HP....
KTM have gone to town on their 350SXF, it aparently does 56 completly race modded, for the factory KTM team (on their website) I find it hard to beleive, but whatever.
Your on of those guys that runs "performance spark plugs and high performance air filters" LOL
bet you can pull like 4HP from aftermarket valves right? LOL or 2HP with a "race chain" LOL
@KXRider212 Ok, first I apologize to CRG for cluttering your page with non-sense. Second of all, Kxrider, could you look at this video for me and tell me what you think? It's called Day at the dyno from JGR. This video is the JGR dyno and the new 450 motor, notice before the mechanic covers the computer the hp number is 56hp, the dyno still continues to pull for 10 sec before it cuts off at rev limiter. I'm willing to bet he hits 60+ hp easy with rpm's to spare.
@den2531 well seeing as your asking this question i'm going to go on a limb here and guess your not a big rider, if you grew up riding bikes and started with 2 strokes its definitely better to run a 125, easy and cheap rebuilds just not a bike for everyone to race. but the 250f is 100% more easier to race constant power dont gotta clutch alot for corners, but if you kill a 250f its gunna make your pocket sore
@den2531 4 strokes are thousand dollar rebuilds, cost 2 times as much in the first place, are heavy as hell, take 2 times as much displacement to keep up with a 2 stroke, and dont even come close to havin a powerband.... all they got is lowend wheelie power.... after that youre done until you can afford a much pricier motor.
@Katoom144sx 2 strokes only weigh 3 to 10 pounds more than four strokes. just sayin, its not that much heavier. 4 strokes are still good bikes but 2 will always be faster. its sad to see 2 smokes go out of production.
I hate listening to them talk about the 2-stroke powerband. "oh theres no low end blah blah" what you rode 4-stroke your entire life? Gotta be kidding me
he said it has no bottom end but its just some times he dosent have it in the right gear because 2 strokes are alot different then 4 strokes but most the time he has it in the right gear and it sounds great in the woops
He was not able to race due to his shoulder being very sore from the crash practicing the Tuesday before the race. He got last because he did not start.
i personaly would like to see JG race a 2 stroke instead of a 4 stroke it would make me happy to see someone having fun on a two stroke and bringing dirt bike racing back to its roots
its because the 2 stroke has no engine brake.....so your corner speed is alot faster and thats where all the time is made up. i have a 09 kawi 450 and a 04 rm 250 and my lap times are faster on the 250. but the 4 strokes are so much easier to ride, makes people lazy
i dont get what josh is talkin about. i guess if he hadnt ridden it in a while then he would have a hard time transitioning. but i race a 125, 250 2stroke, and a 450 all in one day... six motos and its not that hard to transition...?
LOVE that sound! Cody would look good if he road it for an hour. Guys are spolied now on the long draw of the 4 bangers. Of course...Cody anit payin to rebuild his 450!!! I had to and it was the last one I bought! BBRRAAAAPPP!
Ill take DAT good ole sound of DAT 2 stroke on Dem whoopee cushions all day !!!
jesse333able 1 week ago
damn the new YZ's sound good!!!
98CR265 1 month ago
the echo from the 2 stroke is unreal, makes me wanna go riding now!
robbiemx11 1 month ago 2
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350greenS10 2 months ago
6 people don't like two strokes.
ccookKTM77 2 months ago
i honestly dont care what bike your on, just get on the line next to me and lets go
MrMotoxracer8 2 months ago
sounds sooooo good
worx110 3 months ago
beast!
yz250strokee 4 months ago
he said no bottom end cuz his ass spoiled w/ the 80hp 450s wit auto clutches lmao
copkid228 4 months ago
@hernandezMX10 no you must be shit if you cant do it on a 2 stroke
m1n7y 5 months ago
@m1n7y i dont ride 2 strokes....those are for girls
hernandezMX10 5 months ago
@hernandezMX10 ok, 4 strokes are more suited to the incompetent rider as they are so easy to ride you dont need to work the bike that hard where as the 2 stroke you need to be constantly up and down the box working the bike to get its full potential and if they are for girls i take it travis pastrana is one since he prefers the 2 stoke
m1n7y 5 months ago
@m1n7y i dont really care which kind of bike is better... i prefer to ride a 450f than a 250s both bike are aswome if you know how to ride them... i know how to ride them both i just dont like 2 strokes no big deal
hernandezMX10 5 months ago
u ever ridden a stroke hernandezmx10?
MrSupercampeao 5 months ago
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long live two strokes BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ktm10175 5 months ago
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ktm10175 5 months ago
@hernandezMX10 are you stupid lmao,
TheBuckarama 6 months ago
Mods are*
xxHOLESHOTxx 8 months ago
I wonder what modsnare on grants 2 stroke
xxHOLESHOTxx 8 months ago
Why is there a 4-stroke on a 2-stroke ride day??? haha
EeeDee242 8 months ago
Whay is there a 4-stroke ona 2-stroke ride day??? haha
EeeDee242 8 months ago
My 1991 cr500 puts 56 hp STOCK. with the FMF pipe and silencer its about 60 hp. If you cant feel the power on a two stroke then ur riding it wrong. Like Grant said, keep it pinned.
CR500RKID 8 months ago
Guy took a serious dig on Villemuin. Villemuin is like 6'3'', he would bend Grant over and spank him in front of all his friends.
MetricHotrodsdotcom 8 months ago
hheaavvvyy D!
adro543 8 months ago
black kid at the end goes hard
green2stroke 9 months ago
I have those pants Cody has on lol
elemento1991 9 months ago
id about you but i dont hear the 4 strokes echoing in the woods. . . . .
Stealthswim23 10 months ago
im gonna make me 60 dolla
2strokeysmokey89 11 months ago
Jesus people, stop arguing on here. Just watch the badass YZ 250 and shut up.
zr1drifter 11 months ago 4
@KXRider212 haha you really don't know your stuff, and that's obvious. If a stock 450 comes with 52hp lets say, and Stewart's bike supposedly makes only 57hp, so with a full Akra exhaust, full race head and bottom end, race gas, race ignition, full ti bolt kit to drop weight, and his bike only gains 5 hp? Yeah right, thats why they invest 10's of thousands of dollars on little things that give them an edge, you my friend are the true fucking idiot not knowing what your talking about.
jmicm13 1 year ago
@jmicm13 You dont know a thing about racing.
My RM250 does about 48HP STOCK. Ive had the motor ported and polished, the cases blueprinted to match the barrel, Full FMF exhaust, bored carb 1mm, Vertex High performance piston, Balanced Crank V Force 3 reeds, ive gained about 4HP, im pulling about 52HP. Ive also had the suspension valved for my weight, coated stauntions, and run race fuel.
KXRider212 1 year ago
@jmicm13 ^^FOLLOWING
This MAY allow me to gain 1/10 of a second per lap if im lucky.
10 Laps later, thats 1 SECOND. 1 second is a MASSIVE advantage. words cant discribe how big 1 second over another rider is.
Acrapovic states on their website that they can get 51HP out of their bike with the full evoloution system. IT is almost impossible to pull 6HP out of a already stock racemotor.
Yamaha will invest MILLIONS to gain 1/10 of a second at supercross.
l2 know what power bikes do bro.
KXRider212 1 year ago
KXRider212 1 year ago
@jmicm13 SHOW ME ANY respected dyno (NOT motoUSA - they are bias, and NOONE respects their opinion) showing a 450 doing ANY more than 54HP....
KTM have gone to town on their 350SXF, it aparently does 56 completly race modded, for the factory KTM team (on their website) I find it hard to beleive, but whatever.
Your on of those guys that runs "performance spark plugs and high performance air filters" LOL
bet you can pull like 4HP from aftermarket valves right? LOL or 2HP with a "race chain" LOL
KXRider212 1 year ago
@KXRider212 Ok, first I apologize to CRG for cluttering your page with non-sense. Second of all, Kxrider, could you look at this video for me and tell me what you think? It's called Day at the dyno from JGR. This video is the JGR dyno and the new 450 motor, notice before the mechanic covers the computer the hp number is 56hp, the dyno still continues to pull for 10 sec before it cuts off at rev limiter. I'm willing to bet he hits 60+ hp easy with rpm's to spare.
jmicm13 1 year ago
@jmicm13 Peak power is not achieved at peak RPM's
The CRF150R peaks at 12,000 RPM, it revs through to 14,000 tho
KXRider212 1 year ago
josh grant- favorite rider
IfiDieTomoro 1 year ago
2 stroke is music
pedroalextiago 1 year ago
you can hear the sound of the two-stroke echo
sexyman1130 1 year ago
If you aint mixin gas you aint kickin ass!!!!!!
bligrigs 1 year ago 9
@mluman83 HAHAHAA awesome
DRUNKINSKATER 1 year ago
4:07 sounds soo sick!
TannerF231 1 year ago
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TannerF231 1 year ago
brappp
abski99 1 year ago
she sound good
TheCarhartt1 1 year ago
the only thing wrong with this vid is the dirty 4 stroke sound in the background !!
mattycmx3 1 year ago
josh grant can whip that 2 stroke pretty good, must be because its so light, haha, BRAAAP, 2 stroke for life
250racerx 1 year ago
@AirsoftDemon1 hahaha hey mabey it doesnt have enough power cause you dont shift to 2nd gear
bloopaexpress 1 year ago
4 strokes sound so boring compared to a 2stroke
etmoto75 1 year ago
sucks Grant left bc he didnt want to be away from Cali for so long. Oh well I bet Millsaps will be killin it this year
jmicm13 1 year ago
whats beter to race whit a 125 or a 250F and why?
den2531 1 year ago
@den2531 well seeing as your asking this question i'm going to go on a limb here and guess your not a big rider, if you grew up riding bikes and started with 2 strokes its definitely better to run a 125, easy and cheap rebuilds just not a bike for everyone to race. but the 250f is 100% more easier to race constant power dont gotta clutch alot for corners, but if you kill a 250f its gunna make your pocket sore
kdiopgh 1 year ago
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@den2531 4 strokes are thousand dollar rebuilds, cost 2 times as much in the first place, are heavy as hell, take 2 times as much displacement to keep up with a 2 stroke, and dont even come close to havin a powerband.... all they got is lowend wheelie power.... after that youre done until you can afford a much pricier motor.
in the end... 2 strokes..... 2 times better...
crimson22s 1 year ago
@den2531 it depends on how tall and experienced you are
mrfakie3000 1 year ago
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den2531 1 year ago
2,00
zorrowidell 1 year ago
is there any vids of heavy d actualy riding?
yamaha04rider 1 year ago
n1ce ;D...Great Ride with graet Bikes and riders !!
Seve944 1 year ago
I like the no fear gear better than the new shift stuff but thats just me
jmicm13 1 year ago
Wow heavy d can whip
Towel2313 1 year ago
I love Josh Grant! He's not a top 3 rider week in and out, but he's fast, got great style and a super chill dude.
That1BlkGuy 1 year ago
gotta love that two stroke whine
matt8191 1 year ago
at 1:25 why would he put his handle over the muffler?
baii3r 1 year ago
@baii3r feel if tha air wuz getting hotter
Owningya 1 year ago
@Katoom144sx i meant less than :P
94Ponyboy 1 year ago
@Katoom144sx 2 strokes only weigh 3 to 10 pounds more than four strokes. just sayin, its not that much heavier. 4 strokes are still good bikes but 2 will always be faster. its sad to see 2 smokes go out of production.
94Ponyboy 1 year ago
grant is badass.
he'll get a win this outdoor season. i gaurentee it.
BEN80155 1 year ago
I hate listening to them talk about the 2-stroke powerband. "oh theres no low end blah blah" what you rode 4-stroke your entire life? Gotta be kidding me
StreetFighter85 1 year ago
Does anybody know what exhaust setup they are running on that 250? I love the sound.
JuicyFruitFresh 1 year ago
cool vid. i wish you got more video of other parts of the track then just the whoop section & triple but still great vid.
BEN80155 1 year ago
Nice to see Grant getting it done on the 2 stroke....awsome..Question..is Cody Guy Coopers son?
motoman9477 1 year ago
Braap Braap Braap Braap Braap Braap Braaaaaapp!!!
JuicyFruitFresh 1 year ago
@Katoom144sx ...actually you do
06crf250rrider 1 year ago
ahhh music to my ears
RMrider57 1 year ago
he said it has no bottom end but its just some times he dosent have it in the right gear because 2 strokes are alot different then 4 strokes but most the time he has it in the right gear and it sounds great in the woops
dirtmoto417 1 year ago
sick video. 2 strokes all the way
foxmotorider195 1 year ago
This is the bike all pro's should ride!
coreypower177 1 year ago
at 5:03, thats what i sound like on the toilet
Dawgman5500 2 years ago 5
yeh they do design the tracks for 4 strokes but i give guys on 2's that many more props for being able to tear up a track
hondaman7578 2 years ago
real cool vid untill 2:06 when you hear the dumb 4 stroke haha!
the 2 stroke going through the whoops sounds soooo nice.
katiposcotty 2 years ago 5
IDK, dont get me wrong. I love the sound of a 2 stroke! definatley nothing else like it. But I also love the roaring sound of a 450 MX bike!
conrail192 2 years ago
soooo sick
ThePurpleshirtBMX 2 years ago
The 4 stroke sounds ridiculous when there's a 2 stroke on the same track
taavetti80 2 years ago 3
Long Live strokes!!
cameronjonker 2 years ago 5
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cody is my brother and sisters cousin, not mine as we have different dads but yeah, he's a good kant, can make a sound like a tasmanian devil lol :D
Jaaayyman 2 years ago
im sure he is
hOnDaRaCeRr 2 years ago
@hOnDaRaCeRr
he sure is. (:
Jaaayyman 2 years ago
does jg have a dip in?!?!?!!?
turkeybutt09 2 years ago
2 strokes stay alive ! :)
HoleShotQikOnClutch 2 years ago 5
sucks he came in dead last in saturdays race right behind reed. i would like to see grant do good, if not win this season
2StrokeSmokes 2 years ago 5
He was not able to race due to his shoulder being very sore from the crash practicing the Tuesday before the race. He got last because he did not start.
crgracing18 2 years ago 9
i know that, his a good rider but he cant ride the yz 250 like stewart was on the ride with the fan day, now let me get back to finish this video lol
2StrokeSmokes 2 years ago
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mx4life320 2 years ago
a beast + 2-stroke= BRAAAP
sudduth32 2 years ago 2
it shouldnt be that hard. just get the people that run the 2 stroke nationals to run supercross.
littleyz125racer 2 years ago
I agree with MRGOAT a 2 stroke only supercross would be SWEET!
dubbsj 2 years ago 2
it would be awsome to see 1 supercross race this year where it was only 2 strokes that would be cool
MRGOAT289 2 years ago 5
i personaly would like to see JG race a 2 stroke instead of a 4 stroke it would make me happy to see someone having fun on a two stroke and bringing dirt bike racing back to its roots
Zacyz125 2 years ago
LOL dude that 2stroke is NASTY !!! its soo much sicker than the 4 !!
hondaman7578 2 years ago 3
watching someone ride a 2 stroke is so much more exciting in my opinion
pcyz250 2 years ago 65
@pcyz250 i kno what u mean. 4 strokes are so predictable, there no where near as exciting to watch. especially when that someone is pro :D
BEN80155 1 year ago
fmf or procircuit?
careysk8 2 years ago
fmf
robtyl60 2 years ago
mobbin in the water truck haha
taylormx713 2 years ago
wait....i've heard some music?
mxriderHassy 2 years ago 2
Grant makes coops look like a slug on that heavy and slow four stroke...
BAYAREAMX 2 years ago 29
@BAYAREAMX if the 450 is so slow why dose every one ride them hhmmm
sdvdub1 1 year ago
@sdvdub1 that is what the factory tells them to ride
AMA motocross is a big PR ride
and if they put 100k in to a 250 2t then top riders would be winning on 2t but the 2t is not what there trying to sell
hell Honda don't even make the 2t any more and the others are not importing them other then Yamaha and KTM
o ye and buy the way 2t is what most of the winners ride in every country but the usa
4t are good bike's for whom want to ride them and 2t are good bikes for who want to ride 2t's
dexter2433 1 year ago
@sdvdub1 o and buy the way even after they put 100k in to a 250f it is no faster then a stock yz250
and you put any 450cc 2t agents any 4504t and it will and will all ways eat up the 4t for lunch
dexter2433 1 year ago
@sdvdub1 the new stock KTM 250 2t is a 50hp bike off the show room floor
a stock KX450 4stroke the one you buy off the show room floor is 53hp and is 200cc larger
dexter2433 1 year ago
amazing track!!! ;)))
madgxaxa 2 years ago
that and his motor and pipes are all brand new from factory. lucky bastard lol
8Burch8 2 years ago 4
two strokes sound so sweet in the whoops
motox766 2 years ago
BRA AAA AAAA AAA AAA AAA P LOL
bradlee101 2 years ago
i love 2stroke im keeping my cr125 forget a 4stroke
cr125vskx125 2 years ago 7
that bike sounds so crisp
ncmpracer13 2 years ago 2
yeah i wish my kx still sounded like that i gues its time to repack the silencer LOL
bradlee101 2 years ago
i thought i was trippin when i was hearin a 4 stroke when he was riding a 2 stroke lol
waylonrules20 2 years ago
just goes to show ya that 2-strokes are alot better! :)
CodydaltonWomack 2 years ago 2
its because the 2 stroke has no engine brake.....so your corner speed is alot faster and thats where all the time is made up. i have a 09 kawi 450 and a 04 rm 250 and my lap times are faster on the 250. but the 4 strokes are so much easier to ride, makes people lazy
wager94 2 years ago 2
well said
sudduth32 2 years ago
that cat watering truck is sick haha
wager94 2 years ago
i kno righ?! i love that echo! hearing a 250 off in the woods and you can only here the echo is so freakin awesome!!
leumas351 2 years ago
listen to that diesel. I'd take the 2T anyday
hannu316316 2 years ago
i dont get what josh is talkin about. i guess if he hadnt ridden it in a while then he would have a hard time transitioning. but i race a 125, 250 2stroke, and a 450 all in one day... six motos and its not that hard to transition...?
RacinMxAllDay579 2 years ago
LOVE that sound! Cody would look good if he road it for an hour. Guys are spolied now on the long draw of the 4 bangers. Of course...Cody anit payin to rebuild his 450!!! I had to and it was the last one I bought! BBRRAAAAPPP!
MXP553 2 years ago 2
idk i think its better to have both 2 and 4 strokes on the track it sounds good when they mix together
crfracer250f 2 years ago
2 strokes are so much better a hell of alot cheaper and easier to maintain the best thing i ever did was sell my crf 250 and get a 2009 yz 250
crfracer250f 2 years ago 2
I'm thinking of doing the same thing
CrazyEye75 2 years ago
He rode a 2 stroke for the best whip contest because its lighter
shoot603 2 years ago 2
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ride a new 4 stroke and tell me how much you still love your 2 stroke...
losiguy1090 2 years ago
i ride my friends 4strokes all the time their smooth they really are, i like the violent power band and the skill it takes to ride a 2 stroke
TryAndKeepUp16 2 years ago
lmfao rebuild your four stroke and tell me how much you still like it
crfracer250f 2 years ago
I love my 2 stroke!
leumas351 2 years ago 3
because 2 strokes rulesss !!! ahuahauhaua
matheusbrazc 2 years ago 3
why? a 450 is faster, and an overall better bike.
losiguy1090 2 years ago
hes practicing , hes gonna enter x games best whip contest
DJTONER1 2 years ago
how can a 450 be a better bike when its heavier
TryAndKeepUp16 2 years ago
hey grant ride the 2 stroke for sx this year....
mxpassion17 2 years ago