When we did fan changes on JT-8Ds, the first start was pretty spectacular. We would get a shower of sparks for the new fan blades contacting the fan case. Scared the crap out of me the first time though..
you only would see this inflight because of some kind of engine failure, this video shows how an engine performs after the very first startup, because all the preservation oil burns away.
The maximum cure temperature of the composite fairings is 350 degrees. Many of them are cured a good deal cooler at 250 degrees. Don't listen to any comment on here that says this is normal or acceptable. These flames got way too big and lasted too long. You can clearly see the operator is wet-motoring the engine and then hitting the ignitors which causes the torching. (That's why they made the video.) These flames could delaminate the composite fairings or could ignite a fuel tank leak.
thats called torching and can happen.. usually the flight deck already know what it is... calm down... as long as your on the ground and the crew are aware.. if the need to evacuate comes, the crew can have everyone out in 90 seconds..
You should see the huge ball of fire that happens when a pilot forgets to turn on the igniters, and lets the fuel flow unburned out of the engine for a while, then realizes he forgot the igniters and turns em on!
@Captainbritishair Ignitors are used for ignition on engine start and during inclement weather to prevent flame out. TehMG was referring to what happens on old, non-FADEC motors if the pilot or mx crew hits the starter, then the fuel, and then realizes he forgot the ignitors. By this time raw fuel is misting out the tail pipe and it all goes up in a spectacular fire ball once the ignitors are evergized. Modern FADEC engines and Auto Start all but eliminate this.
@gjferg Fuel and ignitors work on the same switch. You crank the engine to 18%, then move fuel and ignitor lever, you keep an eye EGT, if it exceeds then you switch off the fuel, simple.
The engineer would only realise he had a fire because the other engineer on the headset would be screaming fire. The only way of telling you have a tailpipe fire is that the egt does not decline after shutdown
@Sterlingjob You're correct. Thanks. I't been quite a few years. There is an ignition selector but the ignition is actuated by the fuel switch. Sorry about the confusion.
@Sterlingjob Not 100% true. Most of your fighter type aircraft ignition and fuel scheduling works at the same time on throttle command. However, most of your heavier aircraft, since they have multiple engines have electronic actuators for each engine allowing indepentent scheduling of fuel and ignition. Such as the B-1, ignition is on a seperate switch. you can dump fuel with the ignition off, better known as wet motoring. a lot of larger aircraft are like that.
@mushmouth1981 Im talking commercial aviation not military, i couldnt give a shit what a B1 has, we are talking airliners here. All aircraft ive ever worked on fuel and igntiion are on the same switch or like the airbus is automatic.
@Sterlingjob Tail pipe fire and hot starts are two different things. When we say tail pipe fire, it's post shutdown. Once you shutdown, if there is a fire in the exhaust (not blowing out like this), thats a tail pipe fire. Hot start is high EGT past operating limits during startup, usually due to fan speed not comming up quick enough for cooling air or some dumb ass wet motoring too long before he lights off. 10 years flight line maintainance on jet engines, get ur facts straight. LOL
@Sterlingjob What happened in this film was a pickled engine run (preserved run). Nothing but burning off oil until u get a good light with fuel. Since it's running, we don't call it a tail pipe fire. Like I said earlier, tail pipe fires are post shutdown, not engine running. Military or commercial, majority of airframes are common since most companies make both. Maybe the Airbus is just gay. (rather fly Delta)LMAO. But I know DC-10s are set up like KC-10s as an example, seperate ign switch.
@mushmouth1981 I suggest you go back to college. Tail pipe fires can happen on startup as above, there are no flightdeck warnings regarding this. DC10 have the ignition and fuel on the same lever. And to be honest if you have just changed an engine you would do a wet run first to check for leaks, you wouldnt want to burn oil as it could contaminate the turbine and besides how do you know they havent swapped the fuel pumps onto the new engine. Read the link on the video, might learn something
@Sterlingjob Looks light you need to go to college. i'm a 10 year flight line engine mechanic. Contaiminate the turbine?? What are you a crew chief saying dumb shit like that? All motors rebuild from depot or backshop have the fuel system preserved with oil to prevent corrosion in the event the engine sits in spare status for a while. Aircraft that do not have a seperate igntion for fuel scheduling have no choice but to light of the mixture. It's in your engine run procedures, read it.
@Sterlingjob@Sterlingjob Other aircraft that have a seperate ignition switch can wet motor (dump fuel with no ignition)to pretty much purge the system. I've worked both type of configurations. I dont need to read the link idiot, this guy reposted the same video that clearly said it was a preserved run. So if you're going off of what the title says, then ur lost. You must not be engine run qualified, if you were or at least an engine mechanic, you would know this.
@mushmouth1981 Your a complete twat if you think that this is normal? Post engine change you will wet motor the engine, you will then dry motor the engine to remove pooled fuel in the engine, then and only then can you carry out a normal start. This is not normal engine start. If you are stupid enough not to leak check an engine then you can run into some serious problems. If you dont want the ignition then you can pull CB's. BTW im airframe and engine with avionic extension, UK CAA licenced
@Sterlingjob YES IT IS NORMAL. Let me help you out. go to "Running a preserved engine". This video is on here along with the first on of a F-16(Which does not have wet motoring capabilities). Technical orders clearly state, "If running a preserved motor, engine will expell large quantities of smoke". Then it goes on how to start it and watching EGT. Not all aircraft you can pull CB's, most fighter engine have automatic low side back up. So if the main ignition is not there, low side is fail safe
@mushmouth1981 If you know anything about aviation then you would know under ATA chapter 05 on gas turbine aircraft there will be a section called abnormal events, under here you will find a section on what inspections to carry out after a tail pipe fire, like above. On a v2500 a320 10 secs is allowable, after that you have to carry out added inspections so please dont tell me this is normal as it clearly not. Read the fucking website you might learn something.
@Sterlingjob Watch the preserved vid. I've proved my point. Like i said, been working jet engines for 10 years, all engine mechanics know about wet motor, dry motor, and pickled engines. Not all aircraft are capable of wet motoring.
@mushmouth1981 We are talking commercial airliners here not military junk. Every aircraft ive ever worked on has CB's for the ignition. So if you want to wet motor you can. Preserved engines smoke, they dont emit flames like that. We changed an FCU on a dc8 because of an engine start like that, its not normal. Read the fucking website for fucks sake
@Sterlingjob U clearly are an idiot. I am talking all engines, military or civilian. Brand new engines and overhauld engines get preserved. Preserved engines smoke, but what is the smoke? Oil! so by the time fuel is dumped it may make just a fireball, it may burn for a while. Any desk jockey can quote something they dont deal with all the time. A preserved motor is not an abnormal occurence. because you know the motor might do this before the run. Like i said, not all aircraft can wet motor.
@Sterlingjob My quals, like i haven't said 3 times. 10 years jet engine mech. never worked backshop, all flightline. 6 years engine run qualified, I run more engines in a day then you service. I troubleshoot, inspect (internal and external), everything but overhaul. That other vid I showed you of a preserved motor, sooo common if you install and run brand new ones. every engine requires a leak check, who doesnt know that. But like I said earlier, not all have the capabilities to dry wet motor.
@Sterlingjob "Something is obviously fucking wrong by the way fuel is pissing out the engine', if that was the case, it would be an ignition problem, dumbass. Can't multi task? Please every line maintainers is cut trained on other things other than their main job. I got multiple airframe, avionics and electrician training but I am an engine pro, so all the name calling and shit shows how wrong you are and how dumb you feel.
@Sterlingjob Example, Rolles Royce makes military engines and commercial, since the same engine is in both. Depot level precedures are the same regardless. I clearly showed you another video of another preserved motor, and you are still in denial. This is normal for a PRESERVED engine. Maybe you need ur license revoked, or get ur money back from school because you didn't learn anything, or they just cheated you. Or you may just need more experince. You're fired, move on.
@mushmouth1981 Its not fucking normal you fucking nonce, you can get flames but not this fucking big. Something is obviously fucking wrong by the way fuel is pissing out the engine, isnt it fucking obvious, thick cunt
@Sterlingjob If you could read, the description of this vid says' A post-maintenance engine test. It's absolutely "normal". When the mechanics install a new engine and start for the first time the fuel system is full of a kind of oil to preserve it. It can burn until is all blown away and "fresh" fuel reach the fuel nozzles, then at idle, it dissapears. So, don't panic!! Flight is safe!! :-)" Fucking newb.
@mushmouth1981 Listen, when a new engine is installed they carry out a wet motor, the idea is to check for LEAKS. Any oil will be purged out the system, i know this because i used to change cf6-50 engines weekly on dc10s and that is how you do it. I keep telling you to read the fucking website
@Sterlingjob Military junk?? Please, military follow the same governing regs but are more stricter and upheld to a higher standard. Military mech are more skilled than civilian mech due to being more isolated to there system. You get a person with an A&P license who touches the engine how often? Whenever the jet rolls in for routine maintainance? compare that to someone who works the engine on a daily troubleshooting problems and so on. That guy would run circles aroung that A&P person.
@mushmouth1981 The A&P is so easy i could get one in 3 weeks, piece of piss. They give you all the answers and you learn it parrot fashion. To get my licence would take you a hell of alot longer. You guys cant even multitask, to say your more experienced is total bullshit, its not what you know its where to find the information.
@Sterlingjob To say it's not what you know it's where you find the info?? So you're saying actual experience means nothing to a website? Yeah, you're a desk jockey. Or some troll looking shit up just to respond,. I'm done with your ignorance, I've proved my point. Case closed.
@mushmouth1981 How about reading the website and finding out what really happened, you wont because you know that you will be wrong and look even more of a cunt than you really are..
Anyone can do up nuts and bolts, finding information is another thing. So you actually havent stated what your qualifications are? Your not even A&P, the worlds easiest licence to get
@Sterlingjob Dude, you proved nothing. You keep talking about a website, but never said what website. Kinda hard to prove me wrong ranting on about a site that you claim says something different, but no link. You keep talking bout my quals, I said them 4 times. As far as the A&P, Im a Powerplant technichian and too busy fixing airplanes and traveling to fix them to worry about that test. Don't need it because i don't plan on working at an airport. Help yourself out, post a link fag or zip it.
@Sterlingjob from thes site" The engine had just been installed (replacing an engine that was due for maintenance), and this is the first startup of the engine after a long storage period. Flames like this on wet runs are actually quite usual (or so i've heard), just not this big."
@mushmouth1981 Jesus you dont start an engine on a wet run, thats what happens above, you keep saying you know all of this but your talking shit now. If i had flames like that coming out of an engine id be shitting myself, you can damage the wing and engine pylon
@Sterlingjob i am not disagreeing that he goofed up, but at the same time like I said and showed in the other vid, not all aircraft can wet motor on preserves. some, you have no choice but to run it as is and monitor EGT, along with having the fire department out for that engine run. I'm sure you would shit urself, most engine run newbs do.
@mushmouth1981 Make your mind up? One minute this is a normal engine run the next he has goofed up! Which one is it going to be? You have very little if any commercial experience and i think most people would agree that this is not normal. Glad your not saying this is normal to passengers, im sure they would think you were incompetent! Cant wet motor? Why cant you simply disconnect the ignitor supply? Its quite simple really. If i saw flames like this id be calling tailpipe fire, simple.
@Sterlingjob Make up my mind? No, learn how to read. I said that this is normal occurence that can happen on a preserved run. The owner of the vid said they goofed up and didn't fully dry motor. Commercial, military, private, a depots recieved jet engine are all the same. Yeah, I wouldn't say anything to passengers, cause they wouldn't be on a maintainance run retard. I said, it's all about aircraft/engine interface, you can't simply disco the ign supply, it will just cause the backup to fire.
@Sterlingjob "during a wet run is that the engine burns out any residual oil inside the engine that was left there during the storage period. It also burns a certain amount of fuel because the engines usually ignite slower at first startups after storage." The only thing they said they didn't do was dry motor arfter the first attempt. You link, like I said, was a preserved engine run and is normal. You shot your own self in the foot with your link!!
@mushmouth1981 A preserved engine will smoke, it will not chuck flames out like this. Read the highest rated comments above and there is someone else who agrees with me
@Sterlingjob Wow, so some random preson agreed with you and that means what?? Get an engine mechanics opinions, not a crew chief and not a specialist. And definately not some poser. Then we'll talk. But for someone like urself that says oil that is put in the fuel system for corrosion puposes contaiminate the turbines, then you clearly dont know what ur talking about. You can con someone that don't knows better, but come on buddy, you should have stopped along time ago.
@mushmouth1981 JET A1 is extremely pure, the last thing you want is to leave deposits on the turbine as this reduces engine efficiency. You also seem to forget that oil is sprayed over all stages of the engine not just the turbine. Conned someone? I cant believe you still think this start is normal, its not, its a tailpipe fire and it would require an in depth inspection because of the flames flying out the back.
@Sterlingjob Are you still going on about what you don't know? 1st, who said anything about fuel deposits? 2nd, oil sparyed over all stages? Wrong again. A preserved motor has oil in the fuel system, where does fuel go? In the combustion chamber then the energy from the hot gases aretransferred to the turbine. No fuel or oil in the fan or compressor. So lesson here, you completely showed you don't know a simple turbofan works. Next.
@mushmouth1981 Sosme random person? With 30 years experience? erm ok whatever.....
A crew chief would be in charge, not a mechanic, he would call the shots and im sure any crew chief would not be happy with the above outsome. i guess not being qualified in any way your only a mech as over here we are classed as engineers.....all the other vids on here dont show flames like above
@Sterlingjob 30 years ex cause what, that is what he told you? A crew chief is in charge of one thing only, making sure his jet is ready for flight, which means getting who ever specializing in that system. Crew chiefs dont do the majority of the work, sorry. Don't know where you are that CC's call the shots. Not here, and it's management that mainly calls the shots. Due, your not an engineer, real engineers dont turn wrenches, they work tables. your a mechie just like the rest. if you are.
@Sterlingjob When it comes to changine and inspecting engines, engine specialist call the shots. Not crew chief over here buddy. They're usually servicing shitters while the real work is getting done by others. I don't need to go on about my quals to some retard that don't know shit about engines (very typical of a crew chief), so just think whatever you wanna think. I dont know u and dont care to but every time you open your mouth, you show how little you know.
@Sterlingjob BTW, you got my whole shop laughing at you, you are soo funny. We also got one of our General Electric reps here (a real engineer) and is having fun seeing this. lol
@mushmouth1981 Now your really talking shit, even the videos on here of f16's dont chuck much flame out.
And as i keep saying this is not normal, you know fuck all like a typical american, you only do one job and your not even qualified to make statements like you have.
@Sterlingjob "you know fuck all like a typical american" That made no sense. Wether I do one job or multiple jobs. regardless, I specialize in jet engines period. way more qualified than u to make pleanty of statements regarding engines. So shut the fuck up before I stick a 8MM Borescope up ur ass!! Now I'm talking shit.
@Sterlingjob Wow, are you incompitent? I said I work the flightline. We do have a shop, you know? A place you store tools, equipment, etc? We do have a building. I never said I work at backshop. What you think I work out of, a flying bus? Please stop showing ppl you can 't read or comprehend shit.
@Sterlingjob Shitting yourself?? Come on, it takes a compressor stall when in transition to burner to move me. Now that will give you chills. Preserved motors? Please.
@mushmouth1981 The damage that can be cause by a tailpipe fire can be quite severe, wing structure, flaps, engine tailpipe area etc The last thing any engineer would want is the aircraft back in the hangar for repair because gormless idiot cant get the procedures right.
@Sterlingjob Let's see, they posted the vid, made a big flame, jet took off that same day, never went back into the hangar, they didn't lose their jobs. Hmmmm,
@Sterlingjob If you can read, I said IT IS NORMAL FOR A PRESERVED RUN, not every engine retard. All you have proved is that you can't read, or a least comprehend simple words. Now all of youtube knows how slow you are. So shut the fuck up about what you don't know and keep it moving. Yawn, kids..... Have some real experience before you step to the big dawgs.
@mushmouth1981 Well your the expert you keep telling me, you must see this every day then? The engine was soaked in fuel when they carried out a normal start. Your a complete bullshitter, a normal start after storage you can get a few flames but this is more than normal its ABNORMAL.
What is the correct procedure with a tailpipe fire like this then?
@Sterlingjob I see this every time we get an engine that is preserved from depot, or when we recieve them in the desert from the spareline. I've seen this in 6 years. When you start an GE F-110 preserved, it took 5 high EGT starts before is finnaly wash fully flushed. We had no option to wet motor those. The procedure for any engine that has a tail pipe fire no matter what airframe is simple, dry motor it until it goes out, unless it actually spreads. All engine run guys know that. Duh.
@Sterlingjob If they swapped pumps, they would have never gotten any mist unless the guy forgot to turn ignition on. Clearly you can see that the pumps is running. Wow. How many engines have you ran?
3 hours later the flame consumed the wing. Hehe! I mean, look at all the flames! I've never seen flames in an engine as great as this one! I didn't know SAS Braathens have 737-500s^^
Procedure for a new engine is to wet cycle the engine first, then dry run it, then start normally. You can see at the beginning fuel streaming out and if you read the website on the video then it will explain that they got "lazy" and put the ignitors on when they shouldnt.
The fuel should have been cut off and the engine allowed to motor to get rid of flames.
JM: You are absolutely correct and the others who say it's normal are WRONG. Torching like that can damage the engine and it can damage the composite fairings on the wing and pylon. What if the wing had a minor fuel leak? I've been in aircraft maintenance for 30 years and I've never seen torching that bad....including on our old B-52s which didn't have electronic engine control. I've changed engines and never had a tail pipe fire.
@JetMechMA After an engine change, MEC or HMU change it is very normal. As long as EGT stays below 725 deg C and N2 continues to increase towards ground idle all is good. When N2 increases towards idle the torching will bel blown aft and not up.
@beerbrewer737 Your beating a dead horse. Lol. All the real engine mechs have spoken and still they say otherwise. Haha. Besides JetMechMA is Sideshow Bobs idol. Hanging all on his nutsacks.Lmfao
@beerbrewer737: As long as EGT stays below 725 deg C and N2 continues to increase towards ground idle all is good.
JM: You should try actually reading your Jet Run Handbook. Don't just use it to hold the flight deck door open. Read the part that starts out: "CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION..." They said "CAUTION" in all caps and three times for a reason. If torching occurs you shut OFF fuel and continue to dry motor. This minimizes the flames coming out from any so called preservatives.
@JetMechMA Which is where you are wrong, the wings on the aircraft are built to the maximum standards and constantly checked thoroughly. In the event of a fuel leak, the fuel pressure guage would indicate, even to a decimal place on some aircraft.
@TubeHumour All I can say is, wow. Man you're way out there in left field. The quality of the wing construction has ZERO to do with flames licking at the bottom of them. No wings were EVER meant to have those kinds of flames touching them...PERIOD. The fuel gauge warns of a fuel leak??? Quit embarrassing yourself.
its not melting the wings, that normal procedure just to burn out the excess fuel that was left and if that part of the plane was made from aluminum it would have completely warped, so normally for those procedures they would have steel under that section of the wing because of that operation.
hey man why the fuck u were standing there i mean like there is like 1000 of gallons of fuel if it exploded u would have died but well u were so brave nice video
Great, now we're gonna be stuck on this plane for the next 8 hours
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xxRigardoxx 2 months ago
some say it was a engine that went through heavy maintenece and it was burning off oil in the lines
Jasonkev 4 months ago
Now thats wat i call turbo Lmao!!!
TinoDun101 5 months ago
i shouldnt say this because im going on a flight to NY from sydney tomorow on an emirates A380 :P
MelnDyl2010 5 months ago
i dont mind this happening to 1 engine on a 4 engine plane say an A340,A380 747 or whatever but this ummm nope
MelnDyl2010 5 months ago
Im suprised that engine stll worked after that! its normal if it smokes not when it bursts into flames
64MojoMan 6 months ago
Thought it was just a wet start. But no!
slackerz35 7 months ago
afterburner =)
Rildays 8 months ago 2
OMG !! look at 0:33 !!
Nanaking99 8 months ago
Very interesting to know
YoACC 9 months ago
in there was my uncle
privateservermetin2 9 months ago
Are the flaps still there :D ??
TheRealdpb95 9 months ago
Norwegian ^^
Roffeman1 9 months ago
Goose was taking its morning nap inside the engine inlet and some one started the engine. Later it smelled like cooked Goose..lol
justlivemyway 10 months ago
"oo rats!! the oil pressure, i forgot to check the oil pressure!
Kramers gonna hear this the sh*t's gonna hit the fan"
hootergirlsrhot 10 months ago
When we did fan changes on JT-8Ds, the first start was pretty spectacular. We would get a shower of sparks for the new fan blades contacting the fan case. Scared the crap out of me the first time though..
rb2112002 10 months ago
on many aircraft the EP's call for contnual starting of the engines in effort to fan out the flames.
ChopofSlap 10 months ago
Why not starting the engines generally at the gate in this way ........... the pax will be happy :-))))
ThePilot314 11 months ago
ok
tommy81055 1 year ago
I wonder what this plane had for dinner...
JoaoMario24 1 year ago
i like my wings well done
midnightrider1233 1 year ago 46
@midnightrider1233 lol, with a little bit of A1 sauce!
XxGr8tLaughxX 1 year ago
@midnightrider1233 nice but i like my bbq style
Airsoftdevil666 11 months ago
@midnightrider1233 wheres the bloody marshmallows?
77magenta 9 months ago
I kinda feel better about the fuel tanks' safety, since theres an open flame under them and i dont see char
bigblockz8 1 year ago
dear god.
xGot2PullThroughx 1 year ago
If I'm on that aircraft, I'm scared to death.
ylekiot43 1 year ago
I always love watching "Green Motor" starts, especially at night. To the untrained it might look like a nightmare, but it's SOP in maintenace.
precision40 1 year ago
wow there must have been a lot of dust inside the engine
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brothuhmuc 1 year ago
I would be saying my prayers if I saw that happening mid-flight.
youngdones 1 year ago
@youngdones
you only would see this inflight because of some kind of engine failure, this video shows how an engine performs after the very first startup, because all the preservation oil burns away.
HerzogKraut 1 year ago
the only problem is that the passengers are like O_0 "ahhhh" and id imagine that the underwing is a little charred looking.
youngestpilotinGa 1 year ago
The maximum cure temperature of the composite fairings is 350 degrees. Many of them are cured a good deal cooler at 250 degrees. Don't listen to any comment on here that says this is normal or acceptable. These flames got way too big and lasted too long. You can clearly see the operator is wet-motoring the engine and then hitting the ignitors which causes the torching. (That's why they made the video.) These flames could delaminate the composite fairings or could ignite a fuel tank leak.
JetMechMA 1 year ago 10
@JetMechMA
That´s right ! I agree with you. Thank´s for the comment !
Slaterator 1 year ago
@JetMechMA what is this super turbo
golds079 1 year ago
i love that noise
guppy818 1 year ago
this´s called an engine tailpipe fire...not a fire...scary tho..
flchange 1 year ago
Im not a jet engine mechanic. Is that a flooded or oil burning off like that?
rdavola 1 year ago
@rdavola I'm not a bee keeper
TheSimonHarris 1 year ago
Norway is the best!!! WOOOO
futerflash3 1 year ago
It is an norwegian flight !
Go Norway !
TheKamillis 1 year ago
lol norway flag?
wiseye61 1 year ago
@kiwibrittie
You'll need a few seconds before its ready!:P
martijntje16 1 year ago
some heat-resistant wings....
infoseeker228 1 year ago
Either way still looks aswome!!
quinnyfly 1 year ago
supression fire ahead!
vomm27 1 year ago
How long has this been goin' on? You boys should get a room!
jerrygreg2 1 year ago
@jerrygreg2 Apparantly he messaged me to say he got banned, so i guess i won! Plus he was talking complete crap!
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Naw, i got banned because you went crying about it. The only one talking crap was u.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Please try and think of something original to say, its not that difficult.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
na verdade isso e normal ?
Macclowack 1 year ago
Won't it burn the wings?
scvs2 1 year ago
thats called torching and can happen.. usually the flight deck already know what it is... calm down... as long as your on the ground and the crew are aware.. if the need to evacuate comes, the crew can have everyone out in 90 seconds..
hostilenative 1 year ago
This clip is taken at Sola Airport Stavanger. They burn off the oil that is in the engine when in it delivered new. This is Totally safe.
DrCox82 1 year ago
Testing the nitrous? o.O
xxRigardoxx 1 year ago
Is this normal?
duowen35 1 year ago
@duowen35 yes, I THINK they burn off excess oil from the engine when it is new.
DrCox82 1 year ago
737 afterburners!!! lawl
DJstagen 1 year ago
Acting like a ramjet ;)
CainG88 1 year ago
You should see the huge ball of fire that happens when a pilot forgets to turn on the igniters, and lets the fuel flow unburned out of the engine for a while, then realizes he forgot the igniters and turns em on!
TehMG 1 year ago
@TehMG How much do you know about Aircraft?? What do you mean by igniters? Fuel is controlled, until the "igniters" are used.
Captainbritishair 1 year ago
@Captainbritishair Ignitors are used for ignition on engine start and during inclement weather to prevent flame out. TehMG was referring to what happens on old, non-FADEC motors if the pilot or mx crew hits the starter, then the fuel, and then realizes he forgot the ignitors. By this time raw fuel is misting out the tail pipe and it all goes up in a spectacular fire ball once the ignitors are evergized. Modern FADEC engines and Auto Start all but eliminate this.
gjferg 1 year ago
@gjferg Fuel and ignitors work on the same switch. You crank the engine to 18%, then move fuel and ignitor lever, you keep an eye EGT, if it exceeds then you switch off the fuel, simple.
The engineer would only realise he had a fire because the other engineer on the headset would be screaming fire. The only way of telling you have a tailpipe fire is that the egt does not decline after shutdown
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob You're correct. Thanks. I't been quite a few years. There is an ignition selector but the ignition is actuated by the fuel switch. Sorry about the confusion.
gjferg 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Not 100% true. Most of your fighter type aircraft ignition and fuel scheduling works at the same time on throttle command. However, most of your heavier aircraft, since they have multiple engines have electronic actuators for each engine allowing indepentent scheduling of fuel and ignition. Such as the B-1, ignition is on a seperate switch. you can dump fuel with the ignition off, better known as wet motoring. a lot of larger aircraft are like that.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Im talking commercial aviation not military, i couldnt give a shit what a B1 has, we are talking airliners here. All aircraft ive ever worked on fuel and igntiion are on the same switch or like the airbus is automatic.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Captainbritishair Ignitors, similar to spark plugs but not really. One heck of a lot more powerful. Ignites the fuel when starting a turbine engine.
I was referring to older non-FADEC engines as gjferg pointed out. You know, the ones with manual starting sequence.
TehMG 1 year ago
Correction: EGT limit, not peak EGT
Photle 1 year ago
Just a Hot-Start...hot-start is where the pilots let the fuel flow run into the engines before the appropriate N2%, and also weather conditions
JustAnOrdinarySimmer 1 year ago
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@JustAnOrdinarySimmer This isn't a "Hot Start" I'm afraid.
A hot start is a regular start where the EGT rises higher than normal towards the peak EGT during the start cycle.
What seen here would be more likely to happen after a wet start (torching), or starting a new or preserved engine (as the author says)
Photle 1 year ago
@JustAnOrdinarySimmer Thats a load of crap for a start. Whats the difference between a tail pipe fire and a hot start? Get your facts right
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Tail pipe fire and hot starts are two different things. When we say tail pipe fire, it's post shutdown. Once you shutdown, if there is a fire in the exhaust (not blowing out like this), thats a tail pipe fire. Hot start is high EGT past operating limits during startup, usually due to fan speed not comming up quick enough for cooling air or some dumb ass wet motoring too long before he lights off. 10 years flight line maintainance on jet engines, get ur facts straight. LOL
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 And thats what i said, and what happens in the film above is a tailpipe fire
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob What happened in this film was a pickled engine run (preserved run). Nothing but burning off oil until u get a good light with fuel. Since it's running, we don't call it a tail pipe fire. Like I said earlier, tail pipe fires are post shutdown, not engine running. Military or commercial, majority of airframes are common since most companies make both. Maybe the Airbus is just gay. (rather fly Delta)LMAO. But I know DC-10s are set up like KC-10s as an example, seperate ign switch.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 I suggest you go back to college. Tail pipe fires can happen on startup as above, there are no flightdeck warnings regarding this. DC10 have the ignition and fuel on the same lever. And to be honest if you have just changed an engine you would do a wet run first to check for leaks, you wouldnt want to burn oil as it could contaminate the turbine and besides how do you know they havent swapped the fuel pumps onto the new engine. Read the link on the video, might learn something
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Looks light you need to go to college. i'm a 10 year flight line engine mechanic. Contaiminate the turbine?? What are you a crew chief saying dumb shit like that? All motors rebuild from depot or backshop have the fuel system preserved with oil to prevent corrosion in the event the engine sits in spare status for a while. Aircraft that do not have a seperate igntion for fuel scheduling have no choice but to light of the mixture. It's in your engine run procedures, read it.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob @Sterlingjob Other aircraft that have a seperate ignition switch can wet motor (dump fuel with no ignition)to pretty much purge the system. I've worked both type of configurations. I dont need to read the link idiot, this guy reposted the same video that clearly said it was a preserved run. So if you're going off of what the title says, then ur lost. You must not be engine run qualified, if you were or at least an engine mechanic, you would know this.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Your a complete twat if you think that this is normal? Post engine change you will wet motor the engine, you will then dry motor the engine to remove pooled fuel in the engine, then and only then can you carry out a normal start. This is not normal engine start. If you are stupid enough not to leak check an engine then you can run into some serious problems. If you dont want the ignition then you can pull CB's. BTW im airframe and engine with avionic extension, UK CAA licenced
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob YES IT IS NORMAL. Let me help you out. go to "Running a preserved engine". This video is on here along with the first on of a F-16(Which does not have wet motoring capabilities). Technical orders clearly state, "If running a preserved motor, engine will expell large quantities of smoke". Then it goes on how to start it and watching EGT. Not all aircraft you can pull CB's, most fighter engine have automatic low side back up. So if the main ignition is not there, low side is fail safe
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 If you know anything about aviation then you would know under ATA chapter 05 on gas turbine aircraft there will be a section called abnormal events, under here you will find a section on what inspections to carry out after a tail pipe fire, like above. On a v2500 a320 10 secs is allowable, after that you have to carry out added inspections so please dont tell me this is normal as it clearly not. Read the fucking website you might learn something.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Watch the preserved vid. I've proved my point. Like i said, been working jet engines for 10 years, all engine mechanics know about wet motor, dry motor, and pickled engines. Not all aircraft are capable of wet motoring.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 We are talking commercial airliners here not military junk. Every aircraft ive ever worked on has CB's for the ignition. So if you want to wet motor you can. Preserved engines smoke, they dont emit flames like that. We changed an FCU on a dc8 because of an engine start like that, its not normal. Read the fucking website for fucks sake
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob U clearly are an idiot. I am talking all engines, military or civilian. Brand new engines and overhauld engines get preserved. Preserved engines smoke, but what is the smoke? Oil! so by the time fuel is dumped it may make just a fireball, it may burn for a while. Any desk jockey can quote something they dont deal with all the time. A preserved motor is not an abnormal occurence. because you know the motor might do this before the run. Like i said, not all aircraft can wet motor.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 So what are your qualifications then? Sounds like you only overhaul engines, guess they wont let you loose on the rest of the airframe
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob My quals, like i haven't said 3 times. 10 years jet engine mech. never worked backshop, all flightline. 6 years engine run qualified, I run more engines in a day then you service. I troubleshoot, inspect (internal and external), everything but overhaul. That other vid I showed you of a preserved motor, sooo common if you install and run brand new ones. every engine requires a leak check, who doesnt know that. But like I said earlier, not all have the capabilities to dry wet motor.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob "Something is obviously fucking wrong by the way fuel is pissing out the engine', if that was the case, it would be an ignition problem, dumbass. Can't multi task? Please every line maintainers is cut trained on other things other than their main job. I got multiple airframe, avionics and electrician training but I am an engine pro, so all the name calling and shit shows how wrong you are and how dumb you feel.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Example, Rolles Royce makes military engines and commercial, since the same engine is in both. Depot level precedures are the same regardless. I clearly showed you another video of another preserved motor, and you are still in denial. This is normal for a PRESERVED engine. Maybe you need ur license revoked, or get ur money back from school because you didn't learn anything, or they just cheated you. Or you may just need more experince. You're fired, move on.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Its not fucking normal you fucking nonce, you can get flames but not this fucking big. Something is obviously fucking wrong by the way fuel is pissing out the engine, isnt it fucking obvious, thick cunt
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob If you could read, the description of this vid says' A post-maintenance engine test. It's absolutely "normal". When the mechanics install a new engine and start for the first time the fuel system is full of a kind of oil to preserve it. It can burn until is all blown away and "fresh" fuel reach the fuel nozzles, then at idle, it dissapears. So, don't panic!! Flight is safe!! :-)" Fucking newb.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Listen, when a new engine is installed they carry out a wet motor, the idea is to check for LEAKS. Any oil will be purged out the system, i know this because i used to change cf6-50 engines weekly on dc10s and that is how you do it. I keep telling you to read the fucking website
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Military junk?? Please, military follow the same governing regs but are more stricter and upheld to a higher standard. Military mech are more skilled than civilian mech due to being more isolated to there system. You get a person with an A&P license who touches the engine how often? Whenever the jet rolls in for routine maintainance? compare that to someone who works the engine on a daily troubleshooting problems and so on. That guy would run circles aroung that A&P person.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 The A&P is so easy i could get one in 3 weeks, piece of piss. They give you all the answers and you learn it parrot fashion. To get my licence would take you a hell of alot longer. You guys cant even multitask, to say your more experienced is total bullshit, its not what you know its where to find the information.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob To say it's not what you know it's where you find the info?? So you're saying actual experience means nothing to a website? Yeah, you're a desk jockey. Or some troll looking shit up just to respond,. I'm done with your ignorance, I've proved my point. Case closed.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 How about reading the website and finding out what really happened, you wont because you know that you will be wrong and look even more of a cunt than you really are..
Anyone can do up nuts and bolts, finding information is another thing. So you actually havent stated what your qualifications are? Your not even A&P, the worlds easiest licence to get
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Dude, you proved nothing. You keep talking about a website, but never said what website. Kinda hard to prove me wrong ranting on about a site that you claim says something different, but no link. You keep talking bout my quals, I said them 4 times. As far as the A&P, Im a Powerplant technichian and too busy fixing airplanes and traveling to fix them to worry about that test. Don't need it because i don't plan on working at an airport. Help yourself out, post a link fag or zip it.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 You must be clearly blind as the web address is on the video clip for 53 seconds but just in case your that stupid.... gassundertrykk
ANd you are wrong, if every engine you run spits out flames like that you are doing something extremely wrong
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob from thes site" The engine had just been installed (replacing an engine that was due for maintenance), and this is the first startup of the engine after a long storage period. Flames like this on wet runs are actually quite usual (or so i've heard), just not this big."
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Jesus you dont start an engine on a wet run, thats what happens above, you keep saying you know all of this but your talking shit now. If i had flames like that coming out of an engine id be shitting myself, you can damage the wing and engine pylon
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob i am not disagreeing that he goofed up, but at the same time like I said and showed in the other vid, not all aircraft can wet motor on preserves. some, you have no choice but to run it as is and monitor EGT, along with having the fire department out for that engine run. I'm sure you would shit urself, most engine run newbs do.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Make your mind up? One minute this is a normal engine run the next he has goofed up! Which one is it going to be? You have very little if any commercial experience and i think most people would agree that this is not normal. Glad your not saying this is normal to passengers, im sure they would think you were incompetent! Cant wet motor? Why cant you simply disconnect the ignitor supply? Its quite simple really. If i saw flames like this id be calling tailpipe fire, simple.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Make up my mind? No, learn how to read. I said that this is normal occurence that can happen on a preserved run. The owner of the vid said they goofed up and didn't fully dry motor. Commercial, military, private, a depots recieved jet engine are all the same. Yeah, I wouldn't say anything to passengers, cause they wouldn't be on a maintainance run retard. I said, it's all about aircraft/engine interface, you can't simply disco the ign supply, it will just cause the backup to fire.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob "during a wet run is that the engine burns out any residual oil inside the engine that was left there during the storage period. It also burns a certain amount of fuel because the engines usually ignite slower at first startups after storage." The only thing they said they didn't do was dry motor arfter the first attempt. You link, like I said, was a preserved engine run and is normal. You shot your own self in the foot with your link!!
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 A preserved engine will smoke, it will not chuck flames out like this. Read the highest rated comments above and there is someone else who agrees with me
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Wow, so some random preson agreed with you and that means what?? Get an engine mechanics opinions, not a crew chief and not a specialist. And definately not some poser. Then we'll talk. But for someone like urself that says oil that is put in the fuel system for corrosion puposes contaiminate the turbines, then you clearly dont know what ur talking about. You can con someone that don't knows better, but come on buddy, you should have stopped along time ago.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 JET A1 is extremely pure, the last thing you want is to leave deposits on the turbine as this reduces engine efficiency. You also seem to forget that oil is sprayed over all stages of the engine not just the turbine. Conned someone? I cant believe you still think this start is normal, its not, its a tailpipe fire and it would require an in depth inspection because of the flames flying out the back.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Are you still going on about what you don't know? 1st, who said anything about fuel deposits? 2nd, oil sparyed over all stages? Wrong again. A preserved motor has oil in the fuel system, where does fuel go? In the combustion chamber then the energy from the hot gases aretransferred to the turbine. No fuel or oil in the fan or compressor. So lesson here, you completely showed you don't know a simple turbofan works. Next.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Sosme random person? With 30 years experience? erm ok whatever.....
A crew chief would be in charge, not a mechanic, he would call the shots and im sure any crew chief would not be happy with the above outsome. i guess not being qualified in any way your only a mech as over here we are classed as engineers.....all the other vids on here dont show flames like above
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob 30 years ex cause what, that is what he told you? A crew chief is in charge of one thing only, making sure his jet is ready for flight, which means getting who ever specializing in that system. Crew chiefs dont do the majority of the work, sorry. Don't know where you are that CC's call the shots. Not here, and it's management that mainly calls the shots. Due, your not an engineer, real engineers dont turn wrenches, they work tables. your a mechie just like the rest. if you are.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob When it comes to changine and inspecting engines, engine specialist call the shots. Not crew chief over here buddy. They're usually servicing shitters while the real work is getting done by others. I don't need to go on about my quals to some retard that don't know shit about engines (very typical of a crew chief), so just think whatever you wanna think. I dont know u and dont care to but every time you open your mouth, you show how little you know.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob BTW, you got my whole shop laughing at you, you are soo funny. We also got one of our General Electric reps here (a real engineer) and is having fun seeing this. lol
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Now your really talking shit, even the videos on here of f16's dont chuck much flame out.
And as i keep saying this is not normal, you know fuck all like a typical american, you only do one job and your not even qualified to make statements like you have.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob "you know fuck all like a typical american" That made no sense. Wether I do one job or multiple jobs. regardless, I specialize in jet engines period. way more qualified than u to make pleanty of statements regarding engines. So shut the fuck up before I stick a 8MM Borescope up ur ass!! Now I'm talking shit.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 So whats your qualifications then?
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Stick an 8mm boroscope up my ass? I dont even own a donkey, if your going to speak my language try and speak it properly, muppet
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 HAHAHAHAHAHA Obviously tired of your bullshit
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Make your mind up again, one minute your flightline next minute your working in shop? Probably selling gimp outfits
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Wow, are you incompitent? I said I work the flightline. We do have a shop, you know? A place you store tools, equipment, etc? We do have a building. I never said I work at backshop. What you think I work out of, a flying bus? Please stop showing ppl you can 't read or comprehend shit.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Shitting yourself?? Come on, it takes a compressor stall when in transition to burner to move me. Now that will give you chills. Preserved motors? Please.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 The damage that can be cause by a tailpipe fire can be quite severe, wing structure, flaps, engine tailpipe area etc The last thing any engineer would want is the aircraft back in the hangar for repair because gormless idiot cant get the procedures right.
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob Let's see, they posted the vid, made a big flame, jet took off that same day, never went back into the hangar, they didn't lose their jobs. Hmmmm,
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob If you can read, I said IT IS NORMAL FOR A PRESERVED RUN, not every engine retard. All you have proved is that you can't read, or a least comprehend simple words. Now all of youtube knows how slow you are. So shut the fuck up about what you don't know and keep it moving. Yawn, kids..... Have some real experience before you step to the big dawgs.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 Well your the expert you keep telling me, you must see this every day then? The engine was soaked in fuel when they carried out a normal start. Your a complete bullshitter, a normal start after storage you can get a few flames but this is more than normal its ABNORMAL.
What is the correct procedure with a tailpipe fire like this then?
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob I see this every time we get an engine that is preserved from depot, or when we recieve them in the desert from the spareline. I've seen this in 6 years. When you start an GE F-110 preserved, it took 5 high EGT starts before is finnaly wash fully flushed. We had no option to wet motor those. The procedure for any engine that has a tail pipe fire no matter what airframe is simple, dry motor it until it goes out, unless it actually spreads. All engine run guys know that. Duh.
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@Sterlingjob If they swapped pumps, they would have never gotten any mist unless the guy forgot to turn ignition on. Clearly you can see that the pumps is running. Wow. How many engines have you ran?
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@mushmouth1981 What the hell are you going on about? Swapping pumps is pretty normal, mist? Jesus do you know how an engine works?
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
3 hours later the flame consumed the wing. Hehe! I mean, look at all the flames! I've never seen flames in an engine as great as this one! I didn't know SAS Braathens have 737-500s^^
jewelshare 1 year ago
I'd be scared to death if I were a pax looking at that out of the window.
trent8002003 1 year ago
0:15 sound like a pulse jet :P
05u16hep 1 year ago
hehe first afterburner on a commercial jet
MrEscape7 1 year ago
Yeah that would cook quickly. I want pizza now.
allenwong2 1 year ago
He he. There is fire in the combustion chamber anyway.
allenwong2 1 year ago
allenwong2
The key to what you just said is, "in the combustion chamber." That's where fire belongs, in the combustion chamber, not outside.
JetMechMA 1 year ago
Yes you are in a way right, but just because it BELONGS inside doesn't mean it can be outside either.
allenwong2 1 year ago
that is normal. when it is cold.or has bits of water in the jet. it looks like your going for the hudson river!!!
3624nathan 1 year ago
wow!!!!
3624nathan 1 year ago
Oh wow, thats frikin funny, lmao
nw7378 1 year ago
if i was on that plane, i would be like... GET ME OFF THIS THING!!!!
cuteboymimmi 1 year ago
this totally normal on a brand new engine the first time its fired up
2204Alpha 2 years ago
That is not normal whatsoever, an inspection would be required if this happens. NEW/ PRESERVED ENGINES SMOKE THEY DONT EMIT FLAMES
Sterlingjob 1 year ago 2
is normal becaise is runing first time is burning oil
popkamama 2 years ago
is that normal???
velisarios2 2 years ago
@velisarios2
nope.
ronny4ever123 2 years ago
yes it is its first time so its burning up oil
MyBigToeProduction 1 year ago
Procedure for a new engine is to wet cycle the engine first, then dry run it, then start normally. You can see at the beginning fuel streaming out and if you read the website on the video then it will explain that they got "lazy" and put the ignitors on when they shouldnt.
The fuel should have been cut off and the engine allowed to motor to get rid of flames.
As we call it.......fucking GASH!
Sterlingjob 1 year ago
Sterlingjob:
JM: You are absolutely correct and the others who say it's normal are WRONG. Torching like that can damage the engine and it can damage the composite fairings on the wing and pylon. What if the wing had a minor fuel leak? I've been in aircraft maintenance for 30 years and I've never seen torching that bad....including on our old B-52s which didn't have electronic engine control. I've changed engines and never had a tail pipe fire.
JetMechMA 1 year ago 12
@JetMechMA After an engine change, MEC or HMU change it is very normal. As long as EGT stays below 725 deg C and N2 continues to increase towards ground idle all is good. When N2 increases towards idle the torching will bel blown aft and not up.
beerbrewer737 1 year ago
@beerbrewer737 Your beating a dead horse. Lol. All the real engine mechs have spoken and still they say otherwise. Haha. Besides JetMechMA is Sideshow Bobs idol. Hanging all on his nutsacks.Lmfao
mushmouth1981 1 year ago
@beerbrewer737: As long as EGT stays below 725 deg C and N2 continues to increase towards ground idle all is good.
JM: You should try actually reading your Jet Run Handbook. Don't just use it to hold the flight deck door open. Read the part that starts out: "CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION..." They said "CAUTION" in all caps and three times for a reason. If torching occurs you shut OFF fuel and continue to dry motor. This minimizes the flames coming out from any so called preservatives.
JetMechMA 1 year ago
@JetMechMA Which is where you are wrong, the wings on the aircraft are built to the maximum standards and constantly checked thoroughly. In the event of a fuel leak, the fuel pressure guage would indicate, even to a decimal place on some aircraft.
TubeHumour 1 year ago
@TubeHumour All I can say is, wow. Man you're way out there in left field. The quality of the wing construction has ZERO to do with flames licking at the bottom of them. No wings were EVER meant to have those kinds of flames touching them...PERIOD. The fuel gauge warns of a fuel leak??? Quit embarrassing yourself.
JetMechMA 1 year ago
@JetMechMA Nothing embarrasing about telling the truth. :/
TubeHumour 1 year ago
it is impressive but not that dangerous it is called engine tailpipe fire
cheerokepilot 2 years ago
I'd have shit in my pants if I saw that, and we continued to Taxi. Fuck this, gimme another flight, normal or not.
Declethor 2 years ago 5
not really an engine fire the turn on the fuel before the igniters wont hurt the engine
bmcarden87 2 years ago
Boeing 737 NG-A
Boeing 737 Next Generation-with Afterburner
raykrislianggi 2 years ago 20
Nice Comment!
MedicalAviator 2 years ago
@raykrislianggi ::::
CockpitpilotB737 1 year ago
Omg! Its norway!
Reidar00 2 years ago
nope, only if in the air
k32323 2 years ago
what an incredible noise
cola4598 2 years ago
Looks like a "hot" start... and can happen to all jet Engines
Speedfreakcologne 2 years ago 4
yes if its the first time its ever fired up its just burning off the oil in the fuel pipes
wesley2348 2 years ago
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Oneman1life2live 2 years ago
Nice , does this only happen on the 737 ?
sealalula 2 years ago 2
this is not normal at all for a new engine..for a preserved engine then yes this may be the case
djknightmare666 2 years ago
its not melting the wings, that normal procedure just to burn out the excess fuel that was left and if that part of the plane was made from aluminum it would have completely warped, so normally for those procedures they would have steel under that section of the wing because of that operation.
Jarvelo127 2 years ago
Should you be standing that close to the engine when its in flames...
SlySimz 2 years ago 2
Thats a good one! LOL
koldun12 2 years ago
I Bet That Heated The Wing, And Caused Some Vibrations... LOL
mattyg53 2 years ago
afterburners!!! lol jk. that would be sweet though
amznrnfrst 2 years ago 4
safe? it looks like it's melting the wings!
Sammyy46 2 years ago
just so nice to know that the fuel tanks are in the wings. pretty much from plane to almost wing tip
VBH8888 2 years ago
i dont think its normal^^ At the end you can hear the left engine start, while the right is switching itself off.
dalilrafi 2 years ago
hey man why the fuck u were standing there i mean like there is like 1000 of gallons of fuel if it exploded u would have died but well u were so brave nice video
simerpreet11 2 years ago 2