Wow, yet another youtube video by someone who has no idea what they're talking about. They smoke on start due to oil leaking from the seals in the engine that operates both vertically and horizontally.
These things smoke even when brand new. It's just how it is. Nothing out of the ordinary here. No fire, no excess fuel... nothing but a normal start. This is why the guys walking around the aircraft don't even take notice. There is no reason to.
I work on Ospreys in the USAF, every single time they start there is this much smoke. These things leak like crazy, so basically every time the engine starts up, you get a ton of black smoke coming off the engines.
From Airforcetimes website: crash investigation of Osprey in Qalat Afghan. April 2010 revealed engine failure. Military wanted chief investigator to change his report to "pilot error". "The stresses of flying in the dirt and dust of Afghanistan probably caused the engine problems" BGen. Harvel, chief investigator said. He was not allowed to brief the families of the 4 KIA onboard. Maybe Airforce wants to coverup the reliability problems of this overpriced $67M helo?
We wore out two motors in three days in Yuma on a 53E until the T5 was through the roof. Back at Tustin, the two new motors smoked up a storm. The crash crew rolled up and saw me sitting calmly in the taxiway. One leaned out of the window of the truck and asked, "Is it supposed to do that?" I just nodded and they went away. The best is when the boot crew chief forgets he pulled the ignitor breakers on the wash rack..and pushes them in during startup. FOOOMMM!!!
thats just normal. that smoke is not from a fire. 1 if there was a leak the engine would not be able to continue start up and then 2 there are many shutoff valves in case something like that happens. also if there is a fire in either side nacelle fuel flow is shut off
As a old timer from the 80's I remember being in Santa Anna and El Taro Calif and other Marine bases in the Corps as a 6042 and 6043 CH53 and CH46 plus A-4 Skyhawk and F-4 metalsmith plus I did some bubble chancing on the side when bored. But guys as Marines we all know that those who have not been in the Corps will never understand our way of live or I mind set. But most of all they will never understand the Aircraft like we understand them
Crap aircraft failed to meet any of it's original design targets. It's so small inside that it couldn't take the standard sized jeeps so even more tax payer dollars had to be wasted to create a specially made jeep that fit's inside.
wel its normal for a v22 to do that but if a hydrolic oilline snap inside the motor it wont catch fire(if put hydrolic oil on fire and it didnt do nothing) but it goes faperising and gives that smoke but its intense heat melts trou everything and thats the problem if it hits the fuel line it melts and exploding the plane is the results stil i dont know if this is bad bud it isnt good
this is normal for all v22 start ups. even rolls royce themselves who design and produce the engines have told us that the engine doesnt burn oil during flight, that it leaks it. and so after sitting over night and then starting the engines up in the morning the oil that had leaked out of the engine will burn off and cause this so called "fire"
There is no fire; jets and stuff can smoke like that when starting up for a bit. I was in the USAF and personally seen this happen at times..temperature outside may or may not have something to do with it.
My car smokes up alot like that when I let it sit for a while.
It runs just fine after it heats up. I just think maybe the seals contract when the engins cool down after a flight. A little leak isn't a problem. Hell my Harley leaks more than those birds do. It's a good piece of engineering.
A few kinks at first, but they smoothed out the flaws.
As for autorotation during engine failure, if one goes out then power is geared from the other.
Autorotate by simply disengaging the trans-interlock.
They do. I work on MV-22s at MCAS New River. The reason why is because the nacelles (the engine compartments that the rotors are on top of) sit vertical and oil builds up at the bottom, then burns off when the engines start.
its not going in the opposite direction... its spinning so fast, the camera makes it look like that... i work on them too now... i used to work on the "phrog" or the 46
Yeah, I'm also a Marine who has deployed with the Osprey to Iraq.. and this happens all the time on the engine start ups... it's not on fire for anyone who has no idea what they are talking about...
you guys are fucking retarded....that smoke is the cause of engine oil on the engine during startup...it happens on like 80% of engine starts...yours truly, a marine who has deployed to iraq with the osprey.
They've got a bad rap from what I've heard. My boss was a marine and he didn't go on a flight in an osprey one time, and it ended up crashing. he said they f*ck up a lot... but what do I know.. I only fly a C-172.
The problem gargler is you dont know what your talking about
please instruct me on why they are not suppost to do this I mean NO other engine sits verticle when it is started not one that I know of so please tell me why it shouldn't do this
Well v22crewchief, are you just another shill for the manufacturer?
The engines are NOT supposed to burn oil like that, nor are they supposed to wear out ten times faster than the SAME engine when installed in a conventional airframe.
I'll bet you need the parts to come in; with the accelerated wear & unacceptable failure rate.
Now what was the V-22's REAL availability rate in Iraq?
Less than 26%
Helicopters may be slower but STOL is faster & the two together negate any need for the V-22
Thanks for fighting and sticking up for your aircraft. I worked hard to make it as safe as any engineer could and it hurts a little when I see and hear the lies being spread about our V22. I have 6 years of design improvement work invested into her and I take it personally when any of them has a failure and things are blown way out of proportion. But what I here from the crews is mostly good and great, so Im proud of her too.
It was residual oil from the engine, NOT a fire. Anyone who has been around this aircraft, and actuallu knows WTF they are talking about, knows better.
They smoke all the time during start up. There are 2 feed tanks in the wings and 3 in the sponsons. The newer models have 2 in the sponson and 4 in the wings. But that smoke is nothin.. As far as the safety record. Its got a better record than pretty much any rotor aircraft. Since it is a newer technology, it was more publicly scrutinized.
Well first off it was not a fuel line that burst. It was a chaffed hydraulic line. My dad is the chief test pilot at Bell Helicopter and has over 500 hrs in the Osprey since he was involved with the first flight. He is still alive because this is a fantastic aircraft. Keep in mind that the MV-22 crashes years ago were caused by pilot error.
Yeah..pretty crap machines alright..utterly pointless..they were imagined during the 80's by defense planners to augment the helicopter forces in order to move troops and equipment accross battle lines in large numbers with out prepared runways.They should have just built a bigger chinook.Safety is really compromised as well.Overhead fuel tanks allow fuel to flow into the main cabin if pierced..no auto-rotation and a glide-ratio of something like 2/1.only a stone has a worse glide profile..lol
You should really know what you're talking about before spouting off at the mouth. 1) As previously mentioned, the Osprey was designed to replace the Sea Knight, not the Chinook. 2) There are no overhead fuel tanks on this aircraft. The main fuel cells are in the sponsons and there are two fuel cells in the wing tips. Assuming the cells get pierced, they are also self-sealing.3) The Osprey is probably the best thing to come along in a very long time for wounded servicemen.
There are many reasons why. One reason is because it is to unstable, it cannot even do auto rotation if it was to do an emergency landing. And as seen in this video, it leaks oil like crazy when it starts. The Marines have already spent 20 billion dollars on development for it.
Stop posting... you'll seem smarter. The Osprey is a tilt-rotor... NOT a helicopter... so of course it can't do an auto-rotation! Planes can't do auto-rotations, does that mean they're unstable to?? It leaks oil on start up? Seriously, shut the fuck up. Read the description, a fuel line burst. Any mechanic of any sort knows that sometimes stuff just breaks.
Why dont you quit posting. Its not my fault that its design is flaud and the development has already killed thirty people. And I know its a tilt-rotor. So how about you quit flaming people with a diffirent point of this aircraft. You wont seem like such a dick. Cheers.
Okay, first off learn how to spell. The design is FLAWED? Since you have such extensive knowledge of the Osprey and its design, how about you enlighten us. What about its design is flawed? I don't mind people having a different point of view. Its when idiots like you get on here and ramble on about old news, continuing to bash the Osprey. Because you know it crashed several times in developement, relatively early on in developement mind you... you think you know that the design is flawed...
Just consider this for one second. If the design was so flawed as you claim, why on earth would it be serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, in combat missions? You honestly think that the D.O.D would say; "Hey we know it has a tendency to crash, but lets not try to solve the issues with it and send it over to Iraq on combat missions anyways!" Try getting your info from someone whos around Ospreys everyday and not a couple youtube videos. BTW, I don't mind being considered a dick by retards like you.
Okay. Sorry for my spelling error, but I dont believe we have to call each other names. Its nothing to fight and bicker over. I will be honest, I do like the idea of an aircraft that can take off like a helicopter and fly like a plane. Im not saying that they should just get rid of it, It still has some time to mature since it has now reached its full IOC capability. But since it is proving its worth in some ways, I guess the jokes on me. Cheers.
It has costs alot of lives! Thats why its flawed. It was design to outperformed the chinook but it cant even carry the same amount of cargo as the CH-47. It can carry more troops, thats a given, but it doesnt even fly as fast either. Its a loss, not a gain.
Yes, it has taken lives... thats why they shut down the program and re-evaluated it. They've since worked out major flaws, and are continuing to work on the other issues. Just like they do with any other aircraft. It was NOT designed to out perform the CH-47, since thats an Army helicopter. It was designed to out perform the CH-46. The Ospreys top speed is twice as fast as the CH-47, the CH-47 can carry more troops per load, and theres only 4k lbs difference between load carrying abilities.
it in fact does fly faster but also has less fuel consumtion, is easyer to fly, but it does have less of a cargo hold and is difficult to hover , honestly i thought the should have kept the CH-47 in service
No its a replacment for the CH-46E seaknight for the Marine corps.
and a replecment for the Airforce MH-53s they are similar to a ch-53E but they have more radar and other crap on them different designation through out the services on most aircraft.
Jut like the Airforce calls it the CV-22 and they paint them a different color and they have more goodies on the plane like weather radar.
ever heard of a zero degree check valve well if you did you would know that if you roll the nacelles down after you shut down you will significantly decrease smokey start whether the zero degree check valve if failed open or not. little tip from the MV-22 community.
Actually it is oil burning from the engine start i work on these aircraft and i actually work on the one in this video. If it was on fire i also would think there would be a little more running around then what there doing. Oil does get caught in the seals and doesn't drain back to the sump its an inherent problem with these Rolls engine.
The aircraft was not on fire. What you saw was smoke from residual oil smoking. The aircraft starts and shuts-down with the engines vertical. When the engine cools, the seals contract allowing some of the engine oil into the combustion chamber. So, you often get a smokey start with the V-22 Osprey. This is perfectly harmless.
yo bro, I defueled this airplane. The fuel line busted and spilled jet fuel all over the engine. After they fixed it, filled it back up and fired the engine back up, the fuel that was all over the engine caught fire and sent smoke everywhere.
I've never seen another osprey do that.
Also its a turbine engine. Not very much oil in it to begin with. There can't be too much oil leaking out to smoke.
@tailhook571 Which fuel line broke? Because I have to agree with crazypersonbro, in my experience, that's a pretty normal start for a V-22. Usually burning fuel is dark black, that looks like oil to me.
@fastizio6176 I don't know which one broke. Before I started taping this video the line crew had 5gallon bucks under the plane for 20minutes taking bucket after bucket of fuel off the plane because something broke and the plane was dumping the fuel overboard. I know the plane isn't really on fire, but from my experience with them (very little, I've seen maybe 3 take off), I've never seen one smoke this much.
@tailhook571 crazypersonsbro is absolutely right. This has nothing to do with fuel leaking, contrary to what your caption states. Get your facts straight and stop spreading misinformation.
no fire, thats the rotors starting up. get your facts straight.
theusmc202 3 weeks ago
they were smoking weed inside the osprey.
mexicanodelosgafes 3 months ago
I wonder if thats in NC... i used to jog around in the tarmack in the base :D
L2design 4 months ago
There is fire, just that you cant see.
DrKarot7760 4 months ago
Where's the fire?
pogpog28 5 months ago
Seether? Sounds just like Nickelback. Okay I'm gonna go drink furniture polish now.
zapwatt 5 months ago
WHAT IS THE PRORAY? UTUBE SEARCH...PRORAY!
Justwantahover 5 months ago
Wow, yet another youtube video by someone who has no idea what they're talking about. They smoke on start due to oil leaking from the seals in the engine that operates both vertically and horizontally.
zulu3006 6 months ago
These things smoke even when brand new. It's just how it is. Nothing out of the ordinary here. No fire, no excess fuel... nothing but a normal start. This is why the guys walking around the aircraft don't even take notice. There is no reason to.
phantumdrummer 6 months ago
This happens every time they take off I would know I work on them. The only time you don't see them smoke like that is when they are brand new.
Gylf117 6 months ago
I work on Ospreys in the USAF, every single time they start there is this much smoke. These things leak like crazy, so basically every time the engine starts up, you get a ton of black smoke coming off the engines.
ZachDawg832 6 months ago
Pilot 1: WERE ON FIRE!
Pilot 2: Forget about it. its ok.
achalorocks 6 months ago
From Airforcetimes website: crash investigation of Osprey in Qalat Afghan. April 2010 revealed engine failure. Military wanted chief investigator to change his report to "pilot error". "The stresses of flying in the dirt and dust of Afghanistan probably caused the engine problems" BGen. Harvel, chief investigator said. He was not allowed to brief the families of the 4 KIA onboard. Maybe Airforce wants to coverup the reliability problems of this overpriced $67M helo?
AccordGTR 7 months ago
SUB 2 ME IF U AGREE IT LOOKS LIKE A HALO REACH FALCON,AND COD BLACK OPS SHANGRI LA COMES OUT IN 15 MINUTES : )
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OXOCUBE54321 8 months ago
Fuckin ball bag
OXOCUBE54321 8 months ago
shit music
highway955 8 months ago
Music sucks ass and there was NO FIRE!!!
TeamHingaOkinawa 9 months ago
Ah... I'll just hang around and take the next one. Thanks anyway!
GSDirtboy 10 months ago
osprey at last big epic fail like space shuttle..
fassenkugel 10 months ago
We wore out two motors in three days in Yuma on a 53E until the T5 was through the roof. Back at Tustin, the two new motors smoked up a storm. The crash crew rolled up and saw me sitting calmly in the taxiway. One leaned out of the window of the truck and asked, "Is it supposed to do that?" I just nodded and they went away. The best is when the boot crew chief forgets he pulled the ignitor breakers on the wash rack..and pushes them in during startup. FOOOMMM!!!
largefather03 11 months ago
My 1995 Mzada would do the same thing. Just switch out the valve cover gaskets.
smithraymond09029 11 months ago
So it's okay to add extra gasoline right away if I run out while mowing my lawn?
Brandtalones 1 year ago
thats just normal. that smoke is not from a fire. 1 if there was a leak the engine would not be able to continue start up and then 2 there are many shutoff valves in case something like that happens. also if there is a fire in either side nacelle fuel flow is shut off
ji553r 1 year ago
That sir,. is normal engine startup
blkschizo 1 year ago
That was just bad. What is this video supposed to be? I did not find it entertaining or informative at all.
MenacingWithVideos 1 year ago
heli burnout??
funkyguyz21 1 year ago 11
the osprey is one of the coolest heliplanes in my opinion. there fucking awesome
MegaNorrishasayoutub 1 year ago
What a pile of crap.This is and allways will be a Death trap
BlueMax114 1 year ago
That happens often??!!!!
Who the hell wants to fly that if thats normal.
oh and hey, where's the fire???
powertwain 1 year ago
title fail
EZMENIO666 1 year ago
As a old timer from the 80's I remember being in Santa Anna and El Taro Calif and other Marine bases in the Corps as a 6042 and 6043 CH53 and CH46 plus A-4 Skyhawk and F-4 metalsmith plus I did some bubble chancing on the side when bored. But guys as Marines we all know that those who have not been in the Corps will never understand our way of live or I mind set. But most of all they will never understand the Aircraft like we understand them
victorvonzell 1 year ago
Crap aircraft failed to meet any of it's original design targets. It's so small inside that it couldn't take the standard sized jeeps so even more tax payer dollars had to be wasted to create a specially made jeep that fit's inside.
ihamoitc2005 1 year ago
@ihamoitc2005 no one usese jeeps anymore anyway, genius.
malakovich69 1 year ago
@ihamoitc2005 You fail at life! LOL! :D
GOUSN1776 1 year ago
put one of those on gta :D
knightyman8000 1 year ago
well i'm glad to see that thing where it belongs. on the ground. that piece of shit is the worst mistake ever to try flying.
highlo3517 1 year ago
wel its normal for a v22 to do that but if a hydrolic oilline snap inside the motor it wont catch fire(if put hydrolic oil on fire and it didnt do nothing) but it goes faperising and gives that smoke but its intense heat melts trou everything and thats the problem if it hits the fuel line it melts and exploding the plane is the results stil i dont know if this is bad bud it isnt good
7249xxl 1 year ago
this is normal for all v22 start ups. even rolls royce themselves who design and produce the engines have told us that the engine doesnt burn oil during flight, that it leaks it. and so after sitting over night and then starting the engines up in the morning the oil that had leaked out of the engine will burn off and cause this so called "fire"
MIKEEC 1 year ago
The B-52 of VTOLs. Sort of...
TheRazorbackpilot 1 year ago
Ummm she works very well ........ They Have Developed a new version of CH53 .....
geoago 1 year ago
your stupid thats a normal start i should know im a crew chief on an mv-22
94BowTieBoy 1 year ago
I got a chevy thats more on fire than this.
mr88jmr88 1 year ago
you're an idiot it's not on fire thats the engines starting up and it happens to all rotary aircraft
Wawaweewaj 1 year ago
the military didn't want this plane. A Republican congress rammed it down their throats.
eastonsteve 1 year ago
your mom is on fire.
bunker931 2 years ago
That is just normal start up. The engines leak tons of oil in the heli position, and it all burns off on start up, hence the smoke.
abradley841 2 years ago
There is no fire; jets and stuff can smoke like that when starting up for a bit. I was in the USAF and personally seen this happen at times..temperature outside may or may not have something to do with it.
rbolo29 2 years ago
There is no fire moron!
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backintack 8 months ago
@MarcLaPrairie You have no brains, because you don't see what's inside your skull???
TheLK42 6 months ago
just enguine start puff
AVKtt 2 years ago
My car smokes up alot like that when I let it sit for a while.
It runs just fine after it heats up. I just think maybe the seals contract when the engins cool down after a flight. A little leak isn't a problem. Hell my Harley leaks more than those birds do. It's a good piece of engineering.
A few kinks at first, but they smoothed out the flaws.
As for autorotation during engine failure, if one goes out then power is geared from the other.
Autorotate by simply disengaging the trans-interlock.
ARMOROID5000 2 years ago 2
'A few kinks at first'? 27 billion dollars for a piece of shit design which has the highets fatality rate during its development?
Its a high maintenance piece of shit.
ThunderAppeal 2 years ago
Harleys don't leak....they mark their spot haha
tailhook571 2 years ago 11
@tailhook571 i always thought it was swet from all the horsepower..
dodgedart74 1 year ago
@ARMOROID5000 It can't autorotate, look it up. Meaning if you have dual engine failure in heli mode below 1,600 ft, you die.
dave8ization 9 months ago
Still! You have got to love the Osprey, and Rolls Royce for making it all possible! =]
ssbrosking36 2 years ago
i heard that they do that at almost every start up
zood3000 2 years ago
They do. I work on MV-22s at MCAS New River. The reason why is because the nacelles (the engine compartments that the rotors are on top of) sit vertical and oil builds up at the bottom, then burns off when the engines start.
masterflizzle 2 years ago
at :49 the rotors stop and then spin the oppisite direction. wtf?
mko51ss 2 years ago 2
its not going in the opposite direction... its spinning so fast, the camera makes it look like that... i work on them too now... i used to work on the "phrog" or the 46
rmbottoms 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm also a Marine who has deployed with the Osprey to Iraq.. and this happens all the time on the engine start ups... it's not on fire for anyone who has no idea what they are talking about...
airwynn 2 years ago
uh....that happens EVERY SINGLE time u start up the engines. its just dripping oil burning up as the engine heats up.
TheBearnuts 2 years ago
I'm not a fan... this the F22 and EFV.. I still feel there is technology out there that can compete better for the required mission....
Argonaut1337 2 years ago
you guys are fucking retarded....that smoke is the cause of engine oil on the engine during startup...it happens on like 80% of engine starts...yours truly, a marine who has deployed to iraq with the osprey.
frankenfritz25 2 years ago
the osrey started jacking off its rotors then it jizzed (cought on fire) from its intense JP-7 induced ejaculation 0_o
KittyRokher 2 years ago
jp 5.
MIKEEC 2 years ago
oh thats right. i was thinking of jp 5 they used in the 60's.
KittyRokher 2 years ago
its still called JP-5 we also can use JP-8
But thats what the military calles Jet a and jet B
v22crewchief 2 years ago
yes
Weed4mota 2 years ago
Brave guys. I'd have been out the back running & screaming "FIRE!" :)
lst1195 2 years ago 2
They've got a bad rap from what I've heard. My boss was a marine and he didn't go on a flight in an osprey one time, and it ended up crashing. he said they f*ck up a lot... but what do I know.. I only fly a C-172.
excusejew 2 years ago
yeah how long ago was that?
you know I almost got into a car once and then it was in a head on collision.
If its your time its your time.
If he was riding in the back he doesnt know shit about the aircraft only BS
v22crewchief 2 years ago
v22 osprey is so fucking awesome.
isapippi 2 years ago
The problem gargler is you dont know what your talking about
please instruct me on why they are not suppost to do this I mean NO other engine sits verticle when it is started not one that I know of so please tell me why it shouldn't do this
v22crewchief 2 years ago
we have a unique problem that no one else in the invetory has, our engine is verticle when we start the motor,
Some aircraft some times burn oil thats the "smoke" its not on fire and it is certainly not from a Fuel spill ot fuel dumped all over the engine.
thats oil smoke not fire.
specifically Mil- PRF-23699 and we use a pon 6 to service it.
trust me Im for real and know wtf im talking about, Its a good aircraft we just need the parts to come in when we break them.
v22crewchief 2 years ago
Well v22crewchief, are you just another shill for the manufacturer?
The engines are NOT supposed to burn oil like that, nor are they supposed to wear out ten times faster than the SAME engine when installed in a conventional airframe.
I'll bet you need the parts to come in; with the accelerated wear & unacceptable failure rate.
Now what was the V-22's REAL availability rate in Iraq?
Less than 26%
Helicopters may be slower but STOL is faster & the two together negate any need for the V-22
GARGLER42 2 years ago
please tell me what aircraft uses the same engine as us and I mean same out of the engine can? and is using it in the same way that we are?
NOT ONE
BTW I am a active duty US Marine and I really do not give a shit about these motors its what we have.
Now 3 different units were in Iraq at two very different time frames through out the year.
I happend to be there in the summer my third deployment to Iraq.
Have you been to Iraq?
Have you worked on a V22 or any aircraft?
shit breaks!
v22crewchief 2 years ago 2
crewchief,
Thanks for fighting and sticking up for your aircraft. I worked hard to make it as safe as any engineer could and it hurts a little when I see and hear the lies being spread about our V22. I have 6 years of design improvement work invested into her and I take it personally when any of them has a failure and things are blown way out of proportion. But what I here from the crews is mostly good and great, so Im proud of her too.
Heartofclay 2 years ago 2
What aspects did you work on it?
ssbrosking36 2 years ago
It was residual oil from the engine, NOT a fire. Anyone who has been around this aircraft, and actuallu knows WTF they are talking about, knows better.
pavejim 2 years ago 2
They smoke all the time during start up. There are 2 feed tanks in the wings and 3 in the sponsons. The newer models have 2 in the sponson and 4 in the wings. But that smoke is nothin.. As far as the safety record. Its got a better record than pretty much any rotor aircraft. Since it is a newer technology, it was more publicly scrutinized.
TheThorstens 2 years ago
looks to me like it might of burned up some oil when it started up, this thing smokes up all the time when it starts up.
dancingbull07 2 years ago
Holy cow that is not music, its people shouting and it's awfull.
j4cko56 2 years ago
so what is good music in your opinion?
disturbtheworlds 2 years ago
We don't like Britteny Spears like you.
GHOSTD102 2 years ago
Well first off it was not a fuel line that burst. It was a chaffed hydraulic line. My dad is the chief test pilot at Bell Helicopter and has over 500 hrs in the Osprey since he was involved with the first flight. He is still alive because this is a fantastic aircraft. Keep in mind that the MV-22 crashes years ago were caused by pilot error.
jlindsey19 2 years ago
this is the best design it could be the best it needs more blades on its rotars instaed of 3 it shoul have 5 or 4 that would help with balance
OrcsRule44 2 years ago
if this is perfected i heard thi thing could carry tons of stocks of missles
OrcsRule44 2 years ago
Yeah..pretty crap machines alright..utterly pointless..they were imagined during the 80's by defense planners to augment the helicopter forces in order to move troops and equipment accross battle lines in large numbers with out prepared runways.They should have just built a bigger chinook.Safety is really compromised as well.Overhead fuel tanks allow fuel to flow into the main cabin if pierced..no auto-rotation and a glide-ratio of something like 2/1.only a stone has a worse glide profile..lol
patguinnane 2 years ago
You should really know what you're talking about before spouting off at the mouth. 1) As previously mentioned, the Osprey was designed to replace the Sea Knight, not the Chinook. 2) There are no overhead fuel tanks on this aircraft. The main fuel cells are in the sponsons and there are two fuel cells in the wing tips. Assuming the cells get pierced, they are also self-sealing.3) The Osprey is probably the best thing to come along in a very long time for wounded servicemen.
ospreyATC 2 years ago
In my point of view, the V-22 is the biggest scandal the armed forces has ever had.
SpecterDeflecter 3 years ago
why is that?
Jiverson77 3 years ago
There are many reasons why. One reason is because it is to unstable, it cannot even do auto rotation if it was to do an emergency landing. And as seen in this video, it leaks oil like crazy when it starts. The Marines have already spent 20 billion dollars on development for it.
SpecterDeflecter 3 years ago
Stop posting... you'll seem smarter. The Osprey is a tilt-rotor... NOT a helicopter... so of course it can't do an auto-rotation! Planes can't do auto-rotations, does that mean they're unstable to?? It leaks oil on start up? Seriously, shut the fuck up. Read the description, a fuel line burst. Any mechanic of any sort knows that sometimes stuff just breaks.
jpg8402 3 years ago
Why dont you quit posting. Its not my fault that its design is flaud and the development has already killed thirty people. And I know its a tilt-rotor. So how about you quit flaming people with a diffirent point of this aircraft. You wont seem like such a dick. Cheers.
SpecterDeflecter 2 years ago
Okay, first off learn how to spell. The design is FLAWED? Since you have such extensive knowledge of the Osprey and its design, how about you enlighten us. What about its design is flawed? I don't mind people having a different point of view. Its when idiots like you get on here and ramble on about old news, continuing to bash the Osprey. Because you know it crashed several times in developement, relatively early on in developement mind you... you think you know that the design is flawed...
jpg8402 2 years ago
Just consider this for one second. If the design was so flawed as you claim, why on earth would it be serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, in combat missions? You honestly think that the D.O.D would say; "Hey we know it has a tendency to crash, but lets not try to solve the issues with it and send it over to Iraq on combat missions anyways!" Try getting your info from someone whos around Ospreys everyday and not a couple youtube videos. BTW, I don't mind being considered a dick by retards like you.
jpg8402 2 years ago
Okay. Sorry for my spelling error, but I dont believe we have to call each other names. Its nothing to fight and bicker over. I will be honest, I do like the idea of an aircraft that can take off like a helicopter and fly like a plane. Im not saying that they should just get rid of it, It still has some time to mature since it has now reached its full IOC capability. But since it is proving its worth in some ways, I guess the jokes on me. Cheers.
SpecterDeflecter 2 years ago 2
It has costs alot of lives! Thats why its flawed. It was design to outperformed the chinook but it cant even carry the same amount of cargo as the CH-47. It can carry more troops, thats a given, but it doesnt even fly as fast either. Its a loss, not a gain.
Holret 2 years ago
Yes, it has taken lives... thats why they shut down the program and re-evaluated it. They've since worked out major flaws, and are continuing to work on the other issues. Just like they do with any other aircraft. It was NOT designed to out perform the CH-47, since thats an Army helicopter. It was designed to out perform the CH-46. The Ospreys top speed is twice as fast as the CH-47, the CH-47 can carry more troops per load, and theres only 4k lbs difference between load carrying abilities.
jpg8402 2 years ago
it in fact does fly faster but also has less fuel consumtion, is easyer to fly, but it does have less of a cargo hold and is difficult to hover , honestly i thought the should have kept the CH-47 in service
highflier217 2 years ago
I believe you mean the CH-46
Richey2009 2 years ago
NO!!!! YOU ARE WRONG... There are no sh*thooks in the MARINES so it was designed to replace the 46 which is not a sh*thook
tonya1hotmama 2 years ago
i thought the osprey was made 2 replace the CH-53 Super Stallions not the CH-47
Weed4mota 2 years ago
is CH-47 boeings chinook?
mantas1111000 2 years ago
No its a replacment for the CH-46E seaknight for the Marine corps.
and a replecment for the Airforce MH-53s they are similar to a ch-53E but they have more radar and other crap on them different designation through out the services on most aircraft.
Jut like the Airforce calls it the CV-22 and they paint them a different color and they have more goodies on the plane like weather radar.
v22crewchief 2 years ago
ever heard of a zero degree check valve well if you did you would know that if you roll the nacelles down after you shut down you will significantly decrease smokey start whether the zero degree check valve if failed open or not. little tip from the MV-22 community.
zhoag1 3 years ago
Actually it is oil burning from the engine start i work on these aircraft and i actually work on the one in this video. If it was on fire i also would think there would be a little more running around then what there doing. Oil does get caught in the seals and doesn't drain back to the sump its an inherent problem with these Rolls engine.
jasonstang88 3 years ago
The aircraft was not on fire. What you saw was smoke from residual oil smoking. The aircraft starts and shuts-down with the engines vertical. When the engine cools, the seals contract allowing some of the engine oil into the combustion chamber. So, you often get a smokey start with the V-22 Osprey. This is perfectly harmless.
crazypersonsbro 3 years ago 3
yo bro, I defueled this airplane. The fuel line busted and spilled jet fuel all over the engine. After they fixed it, filled it back up and fired the engine back up, the fuel that was all over the engine caught fire and sent smoke everywhere.
I've never seen another osprey do that.
Also its a turbine engine. Not very much oil in it to begin with. There can't be too much oil leaking out to smoke.
tailhook571 3 years ago
crazy is right, ask me how i know.
speedsun20 2 years ago
@tailhook571 Which fuel line broke? Because I have to agree with crazypersonbro, in my experience, that's a pretty normal start for a V-22. Usually burning fuel is dark black, that looks like oil to me.
fastizio6176 1 year ago
@fastizio6176 I don't know which one broke. Before I started taping this video the line crew had 5gallon bucks under the plane for 20minutes taking bucket after bucket of fuel off the plane because something broke and the plane was dumping the fuel overboard. I know the plane isn't really on fire, but from my experience with them (very little, I've seen maybe 3 take off), I've never seen one smoke this much.
tailhook571 1 year ago
@tailhook571 I was there... the tanks got over-filled and it was venting out the aft sponson. no big deal and certainly no fire.
malakovich69 1 year ago
If you had read the caption you'd have known. It's ok though.
tailhook571 3 years ago
@tailhook571 crazypersonsbro is absolutely right. This has nothing to do with fuel leaking, contrary to what your caption states. Get your facts straight and stop spreading misinformation.
nick4p 1 year ago
yoiur retarded
kahoecooper 3 years ago
Looks who's talking... you can't even spell "you're" correctly.
fieroturbo 3 years ago 2