IS OBAMA ANY SMARTER THAN BUSH? - www.RichardAberdeen.com

[cozyfoxstudio]

Also if we didnt go to WW2. Britian, France, Poland and many others would all be speaking German. Not to mention all the Jews that would not exist today. We waited too long to go to war.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio If Christians had listened to Jesus, there wouldn't have been any crusades, let a lone WWII. You can't begin in the middle of history pretending war is a solution. The U.S. began with a violent revolution and hasn't been at peace for even 50 years; mostly, not even 25 years. Many nations have had 100 and more years of peace, so we are by no means historically a peaceful nation. War soon begets more war, among the truest facts of history; it has never solved a damn thing.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen Gee that makes a lot of sense. So according to you we should accept our fate and die. Is that what Jesus was preaching. Is that what he died on the cross for. So we could follow that example. Or did he die for our sins knowing that people will never act the way God wants and since thats the case the best of us have to survive the worst. We do the best we can and ask for forgiveness when we cant.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio According to Jesus, we should overcome evil with good and there isn't a single known instance of any of his original followers taking up the sword, even though both the Roman and Jewish authorities beat, imprisoned, tortured and executed many of them and their own wives and children. The trouble with people like you is, you think you are smarter than Jesus, who very clearly in black and white plain simple language taught us to put our swords away.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen There's no problem with people like me. I want to live and let live. The problem is other people don't want to do that. Like you said Jesus attacked the money changers for a good reason. I think self defense is a good reason. Certianly more urgent one they a little profiteering. By your logic we should let our worst enemies run us over and attack every church in this country. 

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio Jesus said, "blessed are the peacemakers" and “put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish[f] by the sword". And he repeated in Revelation 13, "If anyone has an ear, let him hear. He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints." If you want to pretend you are smarter than Jesus, then go ahead, make my day.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen Richard we have tried to make peace. We have given more to the world in aid then anyone else. We are not living by the sword. We have a right to defend ourselves against evil. We have a duty to defend our children.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio I have personally known several Native Americans and African Americans who would seriously challenge your assertion that we have "tried to make peace". You seem to have a highly warped and unrealistic view of history, which has nothing in common with historical reality. You need to spend a little more time actually reading the Bible and legitimate historical sources like the Britannica and stop pretending that Christianity or the United States has anything in common with Jesus.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio The U.S. violentely revolted in anarchy against an established government, siezed huge territories granted by treaty after treaty to Natives, enslaved millions of Africans, farmers and industrial workers, violently siezed territory from Mexico, violently seized territory from the French after they helped in the revolutionary cause, violently seized the Phillipines, installed highly oppressive puppet dictators globally, destroyed millions of Cambodian/Vietnamese/Iraqi lives.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen Also Richard. The problem with people like you is your gulibility. Its my guess that you voted for Obama in the first place. Now your suprised. What kind of man of faith votes for a man with a ridiculosly long list of ties to communists. Wake up. Jesus didnt tell you to believe in the lies claiming peace. Jesus knew who was going to betray him. He also spoke out against corruption of Government. You should try to be more like Jesus and we wouldnt have this problem.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio Oh I see, Jesus was just kidding and highly gullible.  And thus, I am highly gullible for going by what he actually said, rather than what Christians pretend he said. Yeah, sure.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio On might ask the question of conservative Christians, why are they such grand supporters of the U.S. revolution and resulting rich Anglo Saxon man's government, when the Bible clearly teaches to not "resist the power" and that people should not rise up in anarchy but rather, change things only by peace.  You are quite obviously full of shit.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen Richard then whats your problem. You should stop resisting us and making us vulnerable and our enemies would back off. We wouldnt have to go to war. Also Democrats were in office for more wars then Republicans. The way to avoid war is to stand united. Also your not a very good Christian. You seem to think you speak for Jesus and you try to manipulte others by using his name. You think you are worthy of Jesus and capable of being as perfect.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio I am not a Christian, neither was Jesus, nor was any author of the Bible. If you had actually studied a little history and actually read the Bible, you would already know that. Christianity arose after 90 AD; early followers of Jesus were called "christians" by outsiders as a deragatory term, similar to the "N" word in our society. Paul never referred to himself as a Christian and appears to have deliberately avoided using the term when asked in Acts if he was a Christian.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen I havent been to church in 30 years. I.ve never read the bible. Jesus was a Jew. If you studied a little history you would know that your supporting the ideology of failure that has led to the death of 100 million people in the last 100 years. You are using Christianity to decieve Christians. If you read history you know that Hitler did that. He was a socialist too. You read the bible to discredit it and attack people. Youre a fraud and mislead others as you do yourself.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@cozyfoxstudio The truth is you are inviting war. That what you really want. A destruction of this Christian civilization. You're no man of peace. You're a coward and are selling out America for a few silver coins.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio I have no desire to discedit the Bible, you are just lying as usual. In fact, I have more than one video on YouTube discussing the accuracy of the Bible. You are just making it up as you go, which is typical of people who think they are smarter than Jesus.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen I am not making anything up. I am not using the bible to influence people to betray their country. You are. If not to discredit why would a non Christian read the bible. You're no man of peace. You dont care what Jesus said. You are just using it. You dont really believe. Youre a fraud and wanna be false prophet. Your convincing people to submit to the devil. Nothing more.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio No, I didn't vote for Obama. I refuse to vote for anybody who supported the foolish wars in either Afghanistan or Iraq, which leaves out the vast majority of our so-called "representatives". And you are correct, Jesus didn't tell us to believe in lies but rather, he taught us to be wary of liars, which is why I don't believe you.

[cozyfoxstudio]

Obama was not elected on a mandate of Universal healthcare. He was elected because the Democrats exploited the war that they voted for. Obama was one of the few who didnt. Infact he never took a position on anything in his very short stay in the senate. Also Bush and McCain were far too liberal for their own party. Jesus teaches peace but he doesnt say you shouldnt defend yourself. Thats what the war is all about. Not to mention all the people now liberated.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio War is about taking and/or protecting wealth and is not self defense. Jesus clearly drew a line between self-defense and war, stating that "two swords" were "sufficient" for a large group to defend themselves, very clearly not a reference to war, while Jesus in all four gospels and again in Revelation 13 repeats that those who take up the sword are on the wrong side of God, human rights and human history. It is very wrong to misrepresent Jesus, which Christianis invariably do.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen So you are saying all those lives that were saved was taking? Two swords could mean anything. Two air craft carriers. Two bombs. Two wars. Nobody wants war. Didnt Jesus attack the money changers. Doesnt the ten commandments say thou shall not steal. What you are representing is dishonest. The war cost alot of money and sacrificed lives. We didnt take anything. We gave justice to some some tyrants, freedom to the oppressed and protected ourselves and allies. If we want to.....

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio That is utter nonsense. Jesus very clearly taught against war several times, including specifically to put our swords away. He also taught to turn the other cheek, to love our enemies and to overcome evil with good. He said nothing about overcoming evil with evil.  There is an often misquoted passage in the story of Jesus where Jesus may be very cautiously allowing for self defense, but it is rather vague if he even meant that, though it clearly is not a reference to war.

[richardaberdeen]

@cozyfoxstudio And the reason Jesus attacked the money changers, is because like conservative Christians today, they were attempting to profit off of God. If you want to know what makes God mad, that is clearly what makes God mad, for people to attempt to profit off of religion, as that is the only time in the story of Jesus that Jesus every resorted to violence. People profiting from religion very clearly set him off.

[cozyfoxstudio]

@richardaberdeen we have the power to kill everyone and take what ever we want. We of course did not come close to doing so. In comparison to our arsenal we did use two swords. You leave out all the aid that we have given too. Money we could have spent taking care of our own. They bit the hand that fed them. We turned the other cheek many times. Christians arent misrepresent Jesus. You are misrepresenting Christians. That said, some of em are nuts.

[dogblessamerica]

Absolutely right. I do have trust in Obama that the USA will start to put down the sword, although I can empathise with his position having inherited a couple of intractible wars not of his own making.

Obama, I am willing to bet, sees Jesus as the Jesus of the Sermon on the Mount, the revolutionary Jewish teacher. I am not sure where the right wing got their idea of Jesus from - Sarah Palin said 'Jesus is in war mode now' - is that some horrible interpretation of the book of Revelations?

[richardaberdeen]

If current reports are correct, Obama is getting ready to announce a 44,000 troop increase for Afghanistan. This is very similar to what Johnson began doing, after one of his aids suggested that it would take a million soldiers to "win" in Vietnam. We eventually sent 2.5 million soldiers and still ended up not only losing the war, but costing several Vietnames and Cambodian lives in the process. Obama has far less excuse than Johnson, as he has the historical prescedent of Vietnam.

[richardaberdeen]

1) I don't trust anyone who escalates a war, whether their name is Obama, Bush or Palin. 2) Obama has no excuse at all for sending in more troops, as he has the historical hindsight of Vietnam that neither Johnson or Nixon had. 3) The oft misunderstood book of Revelations is about a lot of things, but primarily it is about the solution for war and other violence. According to Revelations, those who resort to war and violence as a solution are "anti-Christ"; against human rights.

[dogblessamerica]

Obama is being criticised mainly for being to weak, and taking too long to deliberate. I hope Obama sees the benefits of letting the Muslim world have the lead role in dealing with these issues now. Whatever the West does seems to just backfire in spectacular and unforeseen ways.

[richardaberdeen]

Obama was elected on a mandate to get us out of both wars; he should be drawing down troops, not adding them. He was elected on a mandate to clean up Wallstreet, he should be demanding major reforms rather than coddling to banking interests, handing them trillions of tax payer dollars with no strings attached and allowing them to proceed with business as usual. He was elected on a mandate for universal healthcare; he should be out on the forefront daily demanding single-payer coverage.

[richardaberdeen]

Obama, so far, is a huge disappointment, even for someone as politically jaded as me, who assumed he would be ineffective, but he has so far been less effective than evein I assumed. Geitner and Summers belong in federal prision, not as head of Obama's cabinet--they were behind this major mess in the first place. I don't understand Obama and I'm not sure I even want to--it seems that he and the Democrats are just business as usual, coddling to wealthy interests trying to protect their own ass.