The Brief History of Middle-East Conflict 2/4

[23sfrb]

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[sanotsbac]

Why are we on the wrong side America is suppose to be justice so where is it!!!!!!!!!!

[Gitana9000]

How can anyone think it is okay, just or right to KILL any human??

This is sick.

What is wrong with our world?

Why can't we just be nice and stop hurting one another??

[zafthedon]

salaam

Just shows that extremists come from all places.

[faro0485]

Extremists do not come from all places. They come from a certain place.

They are a parasite that have the ability to fool the host population.

[love7277]

stop killing muslims now

[chezpiecedaking]

He was a jewish terrorist

[chezpiecedaking]

that man was a coward,thats not love thats hate.

[micheal74rich]

Quran 5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

[ibnfilan]

if it was a muslim who has done that massacre, it would of created a echo for eternity, but a jew nope i bet the file was erased with-in a decade that's if we're lucky.....

[Truthseeker413]

The perpetrators of this awful crime against humanity are sub-human entities. My beliefs forbid me from cursing at them, but ALLAH(SWT) has already cursed them, and what these murderers don't realize is that one day when all this comes full circle, it will come down to 1.2 BILLION Muslims in the world Ummah against how many jews?........the days of their very existence are numbered, my brothers and sisters. MashALLAH.

[RolaJuma]

weapons with doubtful ppl whom used to rip off others rights against unarmed peaceful ppl

that is unacceptable

where is the humanity

where is the equity

where is peace

La Ilaha Illa Allah

[afgfam786]

free palistine

[faro0485]

A mu'slim doesn't swear or call names. 49:11 6:108 3:134 3:159

[Doderhultarn89]

I am Jew. Muslims deserws to be slaughtered

[varooq]

HItler didn't get ur family. Unluky

[faro0485]

Hitler was 1/8th jew, and many of his top ranking officers and generals were 1/2 jew.

[SDKsa1]

ok jew jew jew hahahahaahah

its your problem try to kill you cowerd hahahaha

[zafirah786]

Ur are joke!!!!!!

[Scarfaced111]

No one deserves to be slaughtered.

[ruptichuck]

shame on israel shame... they suposedly ''know what its like'' thanks to hitler and yet... SHAME!

[desione07]

Goldstein is going straight to Hell. The innocent Muslim worshipers he killed while the worshipers was is prostration are the Real martyr. Goldstein is a Coward he likes to shoot people in the back. I would have cut his head off and all of his supports.

COWARDS!!!

[xanderkhaan]

Kahane had been an FBI operative prior to moving to Israel, his racist remarks, . had regrouped in the Eyal group, linked with Rabin's assassin. based in the Hebron jewish settler have claimed responsibility for many recent attacks on Hebron's Palestinians

[GameTimeGT]

talk about the holocaust these are mad people. They think it's right to kill people when they are preying whoes the real terrorist

[cloudwaver]

And to think...people have the downright NERVE to condemn Palestinians who fight back. Meanwhile, they pretend stuff like this never happens.

[addeenulhaq07]

Astaghfirullah.... how much longer can we wait? wake up! unite the ummah!

[songeline]

je deteste les musulmans!

[JustAgirlH]

To think that some of these ppl consider that man as some sort of saint for killing innocent ppl. Subhanallah. They think that the worse punishment for a believer is death and then they're defeated? Wallahi it is paradise for them to die in a mosque while praying on friday by the hands of the kuffaar. We're all gonna die someday. But what happends when kuffaars die? Subahanllah. Wallahi it is freaky business. Allah is most merciful and most severe in His punishment. May Allah forgive us. Aamen

[muslimfromkossova]

yes see who are terrorist palistinas ore izrailis.

izrailis are terrorist and if one muslim go in in the synagogs and kill jews all the world will here that and they call muslims terorisr direct.But Allah is big and he will help oss inshallah. inshallah we muslims unit againts this sheitan army izrail.

[shopain]

Long Live OSAMA AND HIZBULLAH we are with you from all over the world and willing to fight bastard jews.

[sadik77]

die all ya jews piggs

[khalifahklothing]

May we see justice in our days.

[Srabaa]

Who is the terrest? I cannot beleive how all the Jews are saying that this Islreali is a hero.

[ghettoz121]

look they are generalizing about mulsims..and we hate that..they think all msulims are ben laden..and we despise that..now...if we gonna do the same so we'll never reach a solution here..."fucking jews" is not the word to say...please...as muslims we should behave...think of allah before swearing...just dont that plz..

[MuslimSingh]

Just a little comment for those silly people who believe these jews are killing Muslims only. Palestine comprises of many christians too who are also being slaughtered. So lets unite and stand up for justice. Israel is a terror state financed by the biggest hypocrites on the planet the american regime.

[Keranu]

Not only are there Palestinian Christians against Israeli, but even Israelis! Not just any Israelis either, but rabbis! Clearly this isn't a religious issue in the slightest, much like English imperialism of Northern Ireland.

[HE006]

If you want justice for the Palestinians, return to the Quran and Sunnah not those bastards Bush and Blair. If you want justice for the Palestinians then support Hezbollah and Hamas not go running to the Saudis or the UN.

And never leave Jihad. It is the 6th Pillar of Islam.

Nasrun Min Allahi wa Fathun Kareeb.

[ramtheslam]

tell us somthing we dont know. israel is right now being the only state between muslims that is against islam come on they are agaist arabs but their are in a country between 5 arabic counties they should go back to where they come from poland ukrain or hell

[Furki316]

Just another example of Jewish terrorism.

[VisarMitro]

To all Zionist and ist supporters:

You have only this world to do what your are doing. My advise; Take advantage! In next world you will be roasting in Hell inshaAllah.

[wildq80]

who'd wonder where did terrorism come from after watching that ? never knew someone did a whole report about the birth of terrorists organizations,I guess that report was made b4 osama binladin became an enimy

[Elffriend]

Well so far having a discussion with a muslim has been very circular. I ask for an opinion and you quote Al-Qur'an.

Can't you think for yourself? You quote the book but how do you apply it in a specific circumstance?

I can easily condemn wrong acts by Americans:

Abu Graib was wrong. The Four soldiers who raped and killed in Mahmoudiya and the one who knew they planned it but stayed silent.

I can admit when I am still undecided:

Gitmo prison.

[AntiHypocrisy]

It is you who needs to justify your hypocrisy. You say:

>>The Four soldiers who raped and killed in Mahmoudiya and the one who knew they planned it but stayed silent.

Not even a single person answer my question: Does every soldier bring a camera before committing crime? thousands of crimes happen in America, how many of them are recorded on camera? 0.1%? The mind it, same is the ratio of yanks in Iraq.

[Elffriend]

I am saying it was wrong. Being a soldier does not excuse a crime. No hypocrisy there.

Answer to your questions:

soldier... Camera...? Obviously not.

America...crime on camera...? I couldn't begin to guess. Most businesses have security cameras, though and many public places also.

I have no idea where this line of questioning is supposed to lead.

[AntiHypocrisy]

No Idea? Here is the Idea:

The number of crimes in USA which are NOT recorded on Camera are much much higher than the number of crimes recorded on camera. It is obvious that every criminal does not bring a camera to record his crime.

Same ratio applies to Iraq. Number of crimes committed by yanks are much greater than the number of crimes which are recorded about them. And this ratio is even greater when Iraq does not have millions of security camera like USA.

[Elffriend]

That is not logical.

[AntiHypocrisy]

Logics only work when you want.

People see what they want to see.

People believe what they want to believe.

[Elffriend]

You are certainly proof of that.

Look inside yourself and evaluate why you can't condemn crimes when they are committed by Muslims.

Aren't you a little like the Jews in this very video who praise the criminal murderer?

[AntiHypocrisy]

I hereby condemn any Muslim who commits any crime against any civilians without any ethical justification. That includes those suicide bombers who kill dozens of their own civilian countrymen.

I hereby condemn those most evil creatures on earth who invade other countries and produce such minds violence which becomes a catalyst for the production of suicide bombers.

[Elffriend]

And you still haven't answered my question: Why aren't terrorist muslims who kill innocent people condemned under Sharia Law?

I realize you personally have no say in what a particular government does, I'd just like your best guess. There has been some help from the Saudis on this issue, but none from Iran. I've seen a couple mass protests in Iraq against the Al Qaeda terrorist and secterian militias. (That was the people speaking up, however, not a prosecution of Sharia Law.)

[AntiHypocrisy]

As far as Muslims are concerned I told you they are not following Qur'an fully (specially who have authority and power) that is why they are so miserable in the world.

Now you ask if Sharia condemns or not. Here is the answer:

[AntiHypocrisy]

On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

Al-Qur'an, 005.032 (Al-Maeda )

[AntiHypocrisy]

006.151 Say: "Come, I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to shameful deeds. Whether open or secret; take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.

Al-Qur'an, 006.151 (Al-Anaam )

[Elffriend]

Just be forthright.

[tspotter6]

Good question Elf. Maybe because they did it in the name of their religion, hence they'll be accepted into "heaven". It does encourage others to follow, doesn't it? Thats that problem with these religious debates, it's ok for them to quote the Koran or Bible, but if any unbeliever quotes from these books, then we're doing the devil's work.

[AntiHypocrisy]

refer you one example link to open your shut eyes:

cyberistan dot org/islamic/index.htm#islcivil

[AntiHypocrisy]

check the homepage of this site and research it.

FYI, this website was awarded by Encyclopedia Britannica for its accuracy of facts and credibility of research.

[Elffriend]

So are you saying that violent muslims can only be punished by sharia law? Why aren't they?

Oh yeah, the victims are non-muslims.

We see through your hypocrisy. I am glad I've taken this time over the last few days to investigate Islam. You are an amazing spokesman for your religion. I almost started to believe that Islam might be misunderstood. But, you and your posts have forever dispelled that notion in my mind.

May justice prevail.

[AntiHypocrisy]

>>So are you saying that violent muslims can only be punished by sharia law? Why aren't they?

I see the biggest problem is not with Islam but with people who start to conclude about Islam with their narrow perceptions about it. There is NOT even a single country on earth which has totally applied Shariah Law. Secondly, some of things in Shariah Law are not acceptable for the Western Mindset, but they are 100% time tested successful God-given laws.

[Elffriend]

Well, now your are not even making sense. If "There is NOT even a single country on earth which has totally applied Shariah Law," then how can they be "100% time tested successful God-given laws?"

Reminds me of the Communists saying, "Communism has never really been tried."

And you still haven't answered my question: Why aren't terrorist muslims who kill innocent people condemned under Sharia Law?

[AntiHypocrisy]

Dear, All the history of Muslims' history under the frist four caliphs was under Shariah, The Islamic Spain for 1000 years was under Islamic rule. If your people are financially rich now a days then it does not mean that Muslims always were poor and uneducated.

Your all civilizations go the light of education and humanity from Muslims, but you dont even know how to thank.

[Elffriend]

And you still have avoided the question.

[AntiHypocrisy]

What question? specify one question and I answer. But you have to be fair in admitting if you find something making sense. Spreading hatred by always finding some margin to twist will not give you any benefit except being stupid.

[AntiHypocrisy]

However, Shariah is not the name of some "cut hands and necks" law. It is complete code for social life.

[Elffriend]

You are right. I should have added "...when they bother to acknowledge such events at all."

Look up a very similar case to the one in this video. On September 24, 2002 2 muslim gunmen entered a Hindu temple and slaughtered 30 worshippers.

Largely ignored or denied (claim it was orchestrated by the Indian government) by the muslim press.

There are more examples.

P.S. Are you a 15 year old Girl on a blackberry? Type real words if you want to be taken seriously.

[AntiHypocrisy]

>>muslim gunmen entered a Hindu temple and slaughtered 30 worshippers.

Who told you? The Hindu Government of India? Of course they blame each and everything to three kinds/groups of Muslims:

1- Jaesh Muhammad (An org fighting for freedom of Kashmir)

2- Lashkar e Taybah (An org fighting for freedom of Kashmir)

3- ISI (pakistani intelligence agency).

4- Never blame a hindu.

[AntiHypocrisy]

The more ironic thing is that, they are blaming the same organizations for the recent bomb blast in Muslims' own mosque in Haiderabad India.

[Elffriend]

I didn't mean to start an argument: he asked for an example I gave him one. As I said, as far as the muslim press is concerned, it didn't happen.

So tell me how is "never blame a muslim" any better than "never blame a hindu?"

Shouldn't the guilty parties be punished regardless of their religion?

[Elffriend]

Notice how this massacre is described in the American media, as an outrage. Such massacres are glorified in the muslim media, when committed by muslims. Double standard? Definitely!

Call such outrages for what they are, whether perpetrated by Jews, Muslims, or self-proclaimed Christians.

Murder of innocent people is murder.

[rehan8649]

elf said "Such massacres are glorified in the muslim media"

which particular "massacre" committed by muslims was glorified in the muslim media? if u havent got anything to support ur argument then just keep u mouth shut instead of exposing ur anti-islam bias which is most probably acquired from the western media.

[AntiHypocrisy]

Did you ever see a single Muslim country or politician who said the killing of civilians in bomb attack is good?

[Elffriend]

You asked for an example from a muslim country, I'll give you one. Afghanistan: the Taliban government welcomed Al Qaeda with open arms. Al Qaeda represents no legitimate government and therefore has no legitimate right to make war at all, let alone attack civilians. (This is the definition of a terrorist.) The Taliban were aware of this and yet allowed their country to be used as a base of operations. It is called tacit Approval. It is a form of hypocrisy.

[AntiHypocrisy]

I think you need a serious kind of overhaul. You had been watching CNN and Fox too much. Check the following sites:

informationclearinghouse dot info

ifamericansknew dot com

[Elffriend]

1. I watch neither Fox nor CNN. I use the money I would have spent on extended channels to get cable internet.

2. If you are truly AntiHypocrisy, then surely you agreed with my statement that the guilty parties should be punished regardless of religion. Or is the deciding factor not really guilt or innocence, but the religion of the victims? Justice or Hypocrisy?

[AntiHypocrisy]

Islam applies the state laws to Muslims and nonMuslims both. If a Muslim steals the things of a nonMuslim then the Muslim's hand will be cut. That is called justice. But where 1 million Muslims are killed by neocons and zionists then why will you ask to stop suicide bombers? When you do not let any Islamic government stay on earth, then why do you ask Muslims are not being controlled? Let the Islamic shariah implement and let those violent Muslims penalized.

[Nabukadnezar1971]

If you put strangers into a land and allow them to establish a state, it is war. If you send troops into a land to invade it, it is war. And war is not your idealized exchange between gentlemen. In real wars people use everything they can: religion is also among them. What's so surprising about it?

[AntiHypocrisy]

Nabukadnezar ! you are Intelligent, I have to agree.

[EmotionHigh]

Mosses, Jesus and Muhamad were men of love and ffreedom, and we (humanity) turned them wicked.

[rover98]

oh my God.the the word of terrorism on those days didnot exist? then today these pathetic jews invented terrorism.they called him madman?lol a myrter?hhhhhh

[AntiHypocrisy]

'Terrorism' is quoted in Bible dozens of times. Its not new, but the new association of terrorism with Muslims throught propaganda is a new thing. Now people are told about terrorism then their mind immediately thinks of Muslims. this is because of propaganda and hypocricy of FOX and CNN. CNN and FOX can just use some good looking but evil doing new anchors to spread the propaganda and hypocrisy

[EmotionHigh]

No, this is because extreemists and fanatics turn god and religion to thier excuse of brutality.

God loves all his children under heaven, and there are infinite ways to reach him.

I pray that the day propheted in the bible shall come soon, as it says:

"and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

[AntiHypocrisy]

Well, the day you wish to come soon, that is not an easy day. Perhaps you need to study about that day from Quranic verses also, so that you can picture that day fully.

[EmotionHigh]

I promise you I will study Quranic Verses, as soon as I get my hand on the Quran.

Today all religions, Islam, Judaism or Christianity, has gone mad under the influence of fanatics and crazed men.

Only Evil preaches war and death, only Evil preaches harming others unprovoced.

It is the devil in everyone of us (which Alla's messenger so kindly warned us agianst) that preaches suicide bombing not Allah, nor his messenger.

[EmotionHigh]

God, Allah, Elohim, the one allmighty is a being of light, of unity and love, not of oppression, maddness and killing. It (for it is not a he, nor a she) sent 3 messsengers of love and freedom, and each time we humans corrupted thier ways.

Mosses died, then came Yehoshua and started his killing spree. Jesus died, and the Popes that came after him all turned to torture and madness.

Muhamad came, but only after his death could Islamic murderous cults rise.

[AntiHypocrisy]

>>It is the devil in everyone of us that preaches suicide bombing not Allah, nor his messenger.

Yes, ofcourse its wrong but we cant blame the people who have turned mad at the so so much curelty of invaders. Will you go preach Islamic perinciples to a person who all family is killed by the American army and his siter was raped before buring her????

[EmotionHigh]

I am not sure I understand your question, but If I knew the person above I'd gladly go and preach my messege of peace to him.

The American Army is commiting develish atrocities, I agree, but so do the Islamic terrorsit groups, and so do christian avangelist. (Funny I can't think of a jewish terror organisation, should check it up).

[AntiHypocrisy]

>>I'd gladly go and preach my messege of peace to him.

So, instead of stopping the hands of ugly cruels hands, you will go preach your message of peace to the person who is reacting to the cruelty. How nice, how fair.

[rehan8649]

emotionhigh, u said u cant think of a jewsih terror organization. well u havent been thinking very hard then, the israeli state and army is the biggest terrorist organization in the world, probably surpassed only by its american counterpart.

and since u said that u will read the quran i hope u actually do it. u seem like a nice man, may Allah guide you. peace

[socalvballer]

jews are not the most evil ppl. i hate that you target an entire group of ppl! im not even a jew myself and i think that is incredibly wrong of you.

[AntiHypocrisy]

Its about All Zionists and most Jews in General. Not for All jews. Secondly, All the jews are part of the occupation on the Palestinian land, so they are somehow responsible for it. Ofcourse I am not saying each an every jew is evil, but their religion is based on the idology of 'jew = human and goyem=nonhuman'.

Bye

[socalvballer]

actually you are of course saying each and every jew is eviil. dont try to dig ur way out of this, ur a racist and to me, anyone who disrespects any religion at all should be as damned and the devil.

[AntiHypocrisy]

Not all jews are racists. Even there are jews who have websites such as jewsagainstzionism etc. I respect them for their stance against cruelty. Do you understand? I appreciate many jews. But when I talk abot majority, or overall attitude of their state called 'israel' then ofcourse they are evil.

[rehan8649]

well since ur talking abt racism, i hope u know the racism that exists in the jewish religion. have u read the talmud?

it basically says that a jew is human while goyem or gentiles like u and me are wild animals and killing a goyem by a jew is not a crime. please get educated b4 u come on here sounding all self-righteous. and every israeli citizen must join the army, hence they are all part of the occupation. peace

[DrJackdaniels]

damn the jews now who is the most evil ppl on the earth?ANSWER:THE JEWISH PPL.n the jews r saying they r the victims look at the truth.

[usmanarif]

pure Zionist scum

[AntiHypocrisy]

Go shut the internet, go hurry up. Somebody shut it down please!!! No? you are still here? why dont you go and shut it?

[thaiden03]

how is killing unarmed people victory? Its inhumane. Wheres the logic?

[illuminatika]

All u need to know to dispell satan's propaganda is the word Terror is originally from the bible not the Koran! Its a curse in evil men's heart for fighting those who struggle with faith in God., it means ISrael or Jihad in Arabic.,Example: Gen.35 [5] the terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them, and they did not pursue after the sons of Jacob. Lev.26 [16]I will even appoint over you terror , consumption, and the burning ague, for your enemies shall eat it.