whoever wrote the description of this video can go fuck himself! Your probably a gay tree hugger and have no experiance with martial arts AS IN MARTIAL ARTS and not dancing or a social cult
He was a faithfull student to O´sensei for many, many years even before we were born..
People forget that Aikido is build on a strict budo tradition that ended only in 1867 with the Meiji restoration, so to understand the essence of Aikido, studying the historical and cultural roots is rewarding. Isoyama Shinhans Aikido is sincere, true and to the point, which in my view is priceless and something we should strive for in our daily training.
Good Aikido ! This is the kind of Aikido to be called Real. Although some people think this is brutal, this is a martial art. As a martial art is supposed to defeat the opponent using the techniques. If one think is possible to defeat a real threat using " interior ki " he is fooling himself.
He is actually in charge to teach Aikido at international convention. So I`m sure he has the experience to use these techniques against bigger foreigners too.
Great video - but not for the reasons the uploader alvinthanhk123 things, lol! Some people really don't have a clue about the heritage and original teachings of Aikido...
I liked this video not because I agree with the uploader's comments, but because this is real pre-war Aikido, not dancing or believing that "inner energy" will protect you against an opponent aiming to kill.
From the beginning he is having perectly control over the situaition, and are perfectly leading uke, why then in the end throw him so hard, like he his throwing the disgusting contents of the garbage can out of a window
What parts of it seemed brutal? I kept watching but I couldn't see... the throws seemed very clean and smooth to me and uke seemed very competent to take them. In my own experience it's not mainly being thrown with a lot of force that's dangerous, it's more about the angles you're thrown at, how suddenly or sharply the joints are twisted, that kind of stuff.... If the throw is clean and smooth and in the 'right' direction, you can take pretty hard throws without getting hurt.
I like his style. Aikido is budo,after all,and this uke used to exaggerate techniques like that presented,he is training that for years,and he is one on the toughest man I have ever seen,though. As it comes to Isoyama,that man is real deal. After many videos with dance,which just CANNOT win against real aggresive,it is good to see something like that. Aikido IS way of peace,but how can you express in move,which can be useful in combat?
Pushing uke to help uke learn correct and instinctual ukemi in order for him to learn to take care of his body and save himself out of nasty situations? Sure.
Pushing uke to help uke learn to go with the flow and to therefore, eventually, make him a better tori? Sure.
But "brutal"? "Intentionally hurting"? Really? Come on...
Awesome video. I think that most of the applause at the end was for the amazing skills of the uke. Some of those throws would have been devastating to a lesser trained being :) Keep training hard!
Although i am confused with the "intentionally hurting" comment... Isn't pins, grapples and targetting on key body points produce disabling effects, most of the time in the form of pain?
isn't aikido about not causing damage but momentary disabling pain? at really advanced levels this is not needed but for the majority of us, we cause uke some pain.
this is the first i've seen of this shihan and it's excellent.
Absolutely Beautiful! i love to see an aikidoka actually putting some omph in his technique. there are WAY too many aikidoka nowadays who have given up the "martial" in this martial art. anyone who wants simple pacifism and chooses not to fight an enemy should just take yoga.
I thought this was a brilliant demonstration. What do you want - fancy dancing? This video, surely, in an answer to all those who say that aikido doesn't work 'for real'. Uke took a beating. But if he didn't, everybody would say: "Yes, but this is rubbish. Look - he hardly touched him and he fell over!" Aikido just can't win with some people!
Exquisite...I'm with WATTS on this...anything less and you are a certified "Dojo Ballerina". Do you think this Uke would do this if he was being brutalized? That is an absolute perfect example of trust, in your Sensei and your skills.
If everyone adopted this martial attitude of training in Aikido, all the "Aiki-Bunnies" would quit. And that would be a good thing!
fucking retrds dont give any comment, i am martial artits and this is AIKIDO, Ueshiba tell that aikido is like a dance (metaforicly) but some people understand bucvaly, so you dance and real people will do Aikido, My ukes are karate sensei and you cannot defend with dance you must do real aikido. I will attactk you with katana with my full speed and you protect with harmony and dance, fucking retards who dont expirience pain, aikido is not justu, difference is end of techique,
I think you are missing the point. Any one including morons can be rough and brutal to demostrate the martial integrity of aikido. At his level, he should impress the observers with his precise control of power and emotion.
Jeez the hypocrisy stinks in here...when the Aikido is soft people complain that it's useless as a martial art and when it's hard and practical they complain that it's not harmonious enough...stfu,
this is the way Aikido should be...the way Ueshiba taught it pre-WW2
wonderful Aikido. It seems like people get taught Aikido from hippies and think that bein martial in their practice is going against Osensei;s teachings. Aikido like this was the foundation of Osensei's spiritual journey. In his later years it appeared"soft"but it was still effective. These "peace&harmony" gurus have no foundation for their Aikido practice. Their Ukemi is bad because they have no connection to nage. Without the martial practice Aikido ceases to be Aikido.
If you think he's hurting the uke and if the uke is REALLY hurt, why is he able/capable to stand up EACH time again?
alvintanhk123 CLEARLY thinks Aikido is all magical!! It's EXCELLENT Aikido at its best! something alvintanhk123 is probably NOT practicing! If you want that magical stuff, start BALLET!!
Keep in mind, embu is practically a show. This could be a political message such as "no more flowery stuff" or "see, this IS worth teaching the JSDF".
Watch him teach, he's full of concern for uke. He says things like "there's no space so please don't follow through" or "in case uke can't take the fall for this, do not do it fully unless you're sure".
I'm sure he picked one of his most "durable" uke and instructed him to take high falls for everything instead of just slamming him.
I completely dissagree with the comment in the description. This is Aiki at its best. Why should this be banned when this is effective, and follows the old way. You think a samurai would throw someone in a way that wouldnt hurt them? Hell no, this a warrior art pure and simple.
@Delmo67 ... samurai didn't do "DO" they did "Jutsu" which is "war"... AikiDO is not meant to be tori that slam uke but BOTH create armony in the technique...people that don't realize this and keep looking for street defense should look for something else
You are missing the point i was making. AikiDO is just the various Aiki techniques from Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu that O-Sensei felt the need to use. The only reason you throw people softly in Aikido is for training. O-Sensei's philosophy was about peace and harmony sure but it was similar to the philosophy of the life giving sword. I'm sure if needed even O-Sensei would throw someone in a less than gentle way. Furthermore, why practice a martial art if its only spiritual for you and not practical?
I'd like to specify that my last sentence was just a general comment. I insist telling that there is not aikido outside the dojo, there is something else which is the martial art you are talking about. I doubt aikido is a "martial" art, in my point of view is more a state of mind, an exercise of control, whether you are uke or tori. I practice aikido for these purposes. If someone practice aikido looking only effectiveness won't go too far in its understanding. Check Endo Sensei videos.
@sardinianwestcoast No don't agree with this comment. I know that many people would disagree with me, but I am a strong believer that you have to understand and have experienced 'hard' Aikido like this clip demonstrates before you can do the soft Aikido. It's like trying to learn to box without ever taking a proper punch - just my opinion. What is done outside the dojo will be a reflection of what you do IN the dojo - you can't flick a switch and suddenly make it martial (in my opinion).
@markaval ..but I would agree that Isoyama Sensei treads a fine line between 'powerful' and 'intentionally brutal'. His uke shows just how skillful you have to be when things get really tough - he's in survival mode. Is Isoyama in control? - undoubtedly. Is there a degree of ego in this demonstration - undoubtedly. Is it Aikido from a martial perspective? - undoubtedly. Is it Aikido from a philosophical perspective? - debatable. If he actually intends to hurt uke here then that is not right.
@Delmo67 I agree with this. Ueshiba himself said that 'Aikido decides life or death in a single strike'. His dojo was known as 'Hell's Dojo' - in a land of dojos that says something pretty emphatic about the way he trained before he got old. For me 'harmony' is not right word - 'blending' is more appropriate. I want to blend with attack whether in dojo or on street. Aikido MUST work outside of dojo or it becomes a meaningless dance. I accept that others want differnt things though
@sardinianwestcoast mmmm, not technically true. Even Samurai as far back as Edo Period strove for 'aiki' (going back to Kito Ryu and Fukuno systems, combining aiki, ju and kempo principles). Common misconception about Do and Jutsu - the very best Samurai took as much pride in defeating an enemy without hurting him - killing was considered easy, almost vulgar, at the highest levels of skill. May not have been called DO but the principles were there amongst top practitioners even then
In my opinion this a very clear, very effective way of practising aikido. Aikido is - IMHO - a way of budo and as such it needs to be effective in controlling the partner/opponent (in fact, uke is both for me). I personally dislike aikido-styles which do not keep the intention of budo in mind.
I Like this Aikido... is pure, hapkido for me is a tae kwon, some aikido techs salad...all in one bowl some moves are good but the most are McDojo for me.
I love strong Aikido ...is for the streets, you need to practice smooth with some guys or girls in your dojo, but need to practice hard for the real life. Aikido Lives!!! Thanks O-Sensei
All of you never understood aikido and will never understand! I met a guy who practiced jiu-jitsu, and he told me that is no use in multi-combat, only one to one fight.
To me it's soo funny! Aikido is either too soft and in-effective, or It's too hard and brutal there fore not peacful....!!!!
And I wish these Bjj guys would do their frikkin history! There is no such thing as Bjj. It is nothing more than Ne Waza. ALL JUTSU/JUDO practiced Ne waza. Ne waza is even in Aikido, why? because Aikido stems from Jjj. The Gracie's did a great job of introducing it in a sports venue, but it's always been there.
This uke is awesome, takes balls to get up and attack each time knowing that sensei could snap your neck like a twig, fucking love it, OUS! to the bjj eggs AIKIDO is not competion it is a way to live, as for discipline just turning up for training with no wants or needs to give yourself earns my respect regardless of pyhsical stature. Ripped abs are like butter to a sharp bladed knife. The only competion is life, hopefully peaceful for all.
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And Les... Aikido requires dancing skill. Not dicipline. There are no fat guys in my bjj class. But I have seen plenty of fat aikidoka. So spare me that dicipline crap.
Lesbomb, I do brazillian jiu-jitsu. I used to do aikijutsu for several years. Until I wised up and realized that it's not realistic for this day in age at all. It might help me out if a samurai tried to cut at me with a katanna. Otherwise, it's just dancing and not fighting.
graceful, art in motion, you get people like fumanchudude who if he had just 1% of the discipline that aikido requires he would not be posting childish comments on
AT123 "This type of Aikido should definately be banned and not practised."
I couldn't disagree with you more.....Just because Aikido is about peace doesn't mean that we it has to be soft and "Fake"
Isoyam is awesome and I would love to train with him. By the way (IMHO) Peace Making and Peace Keeping are not the same things, sometimes you must Make peace before you can keep it.
I haven´t see nothing of "rough and brutal". This is very previsible, basic and soft. The old man couldn´t have any chance in a serious fight. But...i understand..this is only an art..of course. Thx ,
I must disagree. Someone of Isoyamas caliber can in fact be very dangerous in a real fight. Because of his integrated power and energy reserve combined with his skill. He can deliver extraordinary power and cause injury. Only upon experiencing this kind of power, one will be convinced of it's potential.
but they are still A method of doing it and they are A aspect you dont have to neglect. i didnt say that is the main task to do to strengthen your body but its ONE aspect. and as it developes preventing tecnique in the case that somebodys gonna throw you and is good physical excercise both at the same time its very practical
I won't let him through me around like that, let's see how that Uke is doing, soon enough, when his body is destroyed, and he can barely move. Let's see if Mr. Isoyama is going to solve his Medical/Financial problems for him.
O'Senei didn't treated Mr. Isoyama in that fashion.
In the Martial Arts, it is men like him, who harm potential. True MA are about Health & Longevity. Destroying your body will bring your ambitions to an early demise.
this uke is not going to destro his body. he's falling normally and with good technique. i don't think he's hurting himself. im practising judo for more then a decade and the falling is much harder than in this video. and my body is not weakening in fact this makes you stronger.
It's not normal to slam your body to the ground. The constant impact will perpetuate injuries and eventually destroy your body in the process. That is why many of the old practitioners of throwing arts become stiff and inflexible. Some require surgeries or get arthritis. Many regretfully, quit training if they don't become teachers.
You can always quit martial arts and take up ballet. It comes with the territory, if you want to play then you gotta pay. So, stop the whinning about getting hurt chose what ever tickles your little fancy.
I practice several Martial Arts including Aikido of which I am an instructor, and intend on doing so for many years with intelligence, wisdom, and compassion. However, arrogant your response, I will address it.
I don't believe that Aikido should be about ones big Ego, in such that I should pound Uke to make myself look good. It defies & contradicts what O'Sensei was teaching. And inherently, it degenerates his legacy.
With all due respect to Morihei Ueshiba. I can't, and will not subscribe to his philosophical religious beliefs. I give respect to those who do, but I myself have a serious problem with his mixing of marital arts with his Oomoto Shinto Japanese doctrine. I'm only interested in the Aiki-Jujutsu concepts that Aikido has. Whining is a sign of martial immaturity.
You know nothing about O'Sensei's beliefs or what he professed, and it wasn't entirely Oomoto kyo, in fact, you say you follow Aikijujtsu, so you don't really understand Aikido's true essence/purpose, nor is it important to you. So, I think this conversation is over.
That's the point I'm making. I don't care about Morihei Ueshiba beliefs. I'm only concern with marital effectiveness that works for me. The other stuff I don't care about and leave it alone. I agree with sensei Isoyama approach to self defense only. So this video is not brutal to me, because I don't care about Aikido's philosophical or spiritual stuff.
so this is why you have to condition your body in a way you can recieve the falls. as i told you ive been practising judo for more then a full decade and the falling is harder than the falling in this video. but i've never injured myself. i nhever had a serious injury not one single time
If you think that falling to the ground with force/impact, is not going to affect your back and other joints in your body, then carry on, you will see in time when you are older, how your body will ache with pain. In my experience in Aikido, many of the old Sempai do not take Ukemi, mostly due to their injuries and stiffness.
gsg9ff. dont you read my comments? i have been falling now for almost 14 years. and i NEVER injured myself. this keeps my body strong. if the old sempai in your dojo have serious injuries and are stiff they do it wrong.
You don't see too many Old Judo players practicing Judo. Look in my Videos at some of the Old Chinese Internal Martial Arts Master's, well into their 90's moving as fast and flexible as any athletic 20 Y/0. That's because they have cultivated internal chi, with little impact to their bodies. It's a very basic principle/concept backed by Science.
so you're disqualifying my argument by saying that YOU have not seen many judo players that are over 90? thats because YOU haven't practised judo seriously if you ever trained it at all, because i can tell you that there are very old judoka
They may be 'teaching' it, not many taking break falls to the ground. Why would you want to take Break Falls to the ground at an advanced age? It's absurd.
first of all: if you keep training at high age and take ukemi at high age it trains your body which is very healthy. it maintains your phisical strength even at high ages. and besides you can't decide if you get thrown or not. and if you get thrown by your partner, you have to be in practise of ukemi not t hurt yourslef
At Old Age, your body's calcium breaks down, you are especially prone to fracture's, Example: Hip Fractures. So, I don't know why or how, you keep trying to justify your arguement. Tell me where to look, to find Old Men Taking awesome Break Falls. ?
your twisting my words. i never said you must do awesome break falls at high age. but you must keep your ukemi waza effective as long as its possible because you cant evade being thrown in randori for example.
I never twisted your words, I speak for myself with my own input and words in response to your comments. Still, after all your writing, you don't make any logical sense in your arguement that ukemi is Healthy. And whether ukemi is effective or not is irrelevant to what I am addressing. Prolonged Ukemi can hurt you. In real fighting, I will never let someone throw me so easily, just as any skilled fighter will do.
Ukemi is healthy because it trains your body and it helps to develope a strong body which you will need to practise martial arts. And it is relevant if your ukemi is effective. because IF you get thrown and you cant evade getting thrown sometimes you will need to do ukemi because it is the only way NOT to hurt yourself. A good ukemi wont ever injure you if it does you practise it wrong
It is true that skilled breakfalls are essential to MA & can potentially protect your body from a fall to the ground. However, if you have tried breakfalling on concrete, you can still get injured regardless. As far as Health or Strength training is concerned, there are other ways to develop power that is more efficient/practical than with breakfalls. I wouldn't look to breakfalls to strengthen my body.
i know mifune kyuzo hanshi i am a judoka ^^. But yeah you are right he is not going to let someone throw him. But be sure ybout he knows how to fall even if he's not thrown (and he was never thrown in competition throughout his life) and the difference between the videos is that mifune in his vids is practising randori while this one here shows a demonstration.
i don't understand why there is so much people complaining about isoyama shihans style. this is not brutal. the uke is falling normally and allthough aikido is about peace and harmony you cant switch out phisical laws. falling IS hard. and aikido is an martial art. so an aikidoka as a martial artist has got to train his body in that mannor that he is able to recive techniques physically AND technically (ukemi) aikido is body AND mind not only mind. train your body and your spirit will follow
A not very skilled uke would not take all the throws..or ends with broken bones.Isoyama san as I remeber said last year to participants: "There was a time I thought training without injury was not a good training..but do not be afraid..today I don't think so. ;)..I strongly admire this man!His techinque and ability for teaching...And must agree with some comments..this kind of aikido disappers unfortunately..however aikido is aikido..it depends on individual interpretation Isoyama one is superb
if you learn to be a uke you will also be able to do this! isoyama knows what he does he is not destroying the individual before him, altough he could.
Isoyama Sensei is very kind and witty person. His technique is excellent and astonishing. As well as physical state (remember how old he is) I had a great pleasure to take part in meeting with Isoyama Sensei last year in Poland, and this year I will be there for sure!! Isoyama san is not brutal..he is simply effective! He is not rough..he is smooth in a different way ;). Peace! Greetings to all akido practicioners!
How do you intend to practice a lock-based art without pain? With lock throws especially, your technique is going to fail if you don't put the pain on. The pain in a lot of these techniques is what makes Uke move. So long as he doesn't actually break Uke, it's fine.
thats why Aikido gets ragged on,cause when someone does it right,people rag him for being powerful,there envious..hes 9th dan,remember that before you critize someone better than you.your Aikido should aspire to be like that,plus its a performace.Isoyama Sensei is awsome to behold,and Steven Seagal was his student,his form shows it.
if someone goes arround trying to do what isoyama does that is not good intention that is not aikido , you can only become in my opinion good at doing powerfull techniques when you find out that they are truelly not powerfull. What isoyama does not amny understand that its not the term people say "Effective" its just another expression its not more "power"
isoyama is not brutal he practices a traditional way of aikido from ibaraki so i dont think he is brutal he gives what he had been tought by ueshiba sensei and primary from morihiro saito sensei. look at inagaki sensei, he practices like isoyama, and they are both from ibaraki.
if you see to much flow... then you loose the affect of what it should be in real life.
we can't expect for aikdio on the street to look blissful as it does here. chaos vs order.
i see sometimes in aikido were a student puts out to much flow. it makes it look very fake. at least this trainning is showing something right. just a little more of flow. not an overwhelming amount.
Ueshiba Morihei never said: aikido is a soft style. He said: you should stand the intersection of yin and yang (soft and hard).
I think the correct way is a correct form from the out (as it do Isoyama sensei, because the Hombu-way has too much mistake), and a correct feeling from the inner ( as it do Endo sensei, because the Iwama-way has too much fighting): this is the pont of intersection. But where is the ONE master?!
Osensei has broken his student arm (I think his uke were Shirata and Sioda sensei)at a demonstration before the World War, because his uke was too tired. So, the Founder's aikido was not "the aikido" too?!
Isoyama sensei nowdays the only living shihan who was Osensei's long-time-student (it means Hombu student wasn't the Founder's student, because it's not a corresponding course from Iwama to Tokyo:))
The big question is: what practice you or most of the world?!
alvintanhk123 - Shame on you for writing incorrect & disrespectful things about Isoyama-Sensei in a public forum. He is not intentionally hurting his uke, who seems to be handling the demo without difficulty. You aren't shihan. You don't have the experience or rank to determine such things or what should be banned. I understand that you don't like his Aikido, but you haven't the right to publicly criticize a sensei you will never equal. Show proper respect & remove your comment about this video.
Isoyama-Sensei takes a position of being able to take whatever comes your way - IF you wear the black belt. He is not the only sesnei that holds this view. Talk of this being banned or that his technique is sub-standard is gnorant and disrespectful - just what you can expect from someone who doesn't have or isn't good enough to be a yudansha. Talking crap about a teacher whose rank and ability you will never attain is the sign of a lousy Aikidoka, hiding behind the internet.
I don't think it should be banned. It shows a martial nature that so many lack these days. Aikido is whatever you make it out to be, even Osensei was considered quite brutal in his early days.
Absolutely. Eve as he got older, he was very civil in general. Quite kind and open hearted but in the dojo he was said to be dangerous, if not LETHAL.
My Sensei has mentioned his time with Isoyama Sensei a couple of times, it's great to finally see him lifting Uke's above his head as my Sensei described...
I agre, it is a little rough, but there is a certain magnificence to it as well...
But, it is not only his technique but also his attitude that is unhealthy for Aikido. Because of him we cannot even mention "Iwama" or anything relating to Morihiro Saito Sensei in Ibaraki dojo. As the current head of Ibaraki, he is trying to wipe away the memory of Saito Sensei. It is outrageous and so very sad..
Neela, he talks very fondly of Saito Shihan. I don't think he is trying to erase his memory. They were good friends. Why regale us with affectionate stories of their escapades together? In two years, I've never been told I can't mention Iwama. There was something else going regarding the collarbone incident.
Isoyama broke the collar bone of an uchideshi while I was in Japan and I have heard of worse. Most foreigners there know to be wary of him because he is unpredictable. From observation, I dont believe he is especially malicious, he wants to look good and his technique is sub-standard that he must use quick and hard moves to make a show of it.
When I began Aikido almost 40 yrs ago, I learned that if I'm injured taking ukemi, the responsibility is solely mine, not nage's. Just like a poor workman blames his tools, a poor Aikidoka blames nage. Are you such an expert, that you can make the statements you do - being insulting & disrespectful toward someone like Isoyama-Sensei & his students? You're a poor example of Aikido, talking the way you do. But then you don't need to be responsible for what you say, do you? Internet anonymitiy.
My comments were impetuous and rude. I regret to have posted it. It does not convey the Aikido spirit.
But good ukemi does not mean you can avoid injury altogether. You cannot evade malicious intent. There is give and take in nage and uke. It is sad to see people who do not respect their partners bodies whether out of ignorance or disregard it doesn't matter.
I have attend several Isoyama Shihan seminars. he is very kind and gentle with beginners and even with the upper Kyus and Udansha that he can clearly see can't take good Ukemi. He has a great deal of kindness in his heart. Aikido is still listed as a martial art and for those blackbelts that have very good ukemi Isoyama Shihan throws them accordingly.
I don't like the editing, but the master is excellent, strong technique and a lot of Ki energy, the old masters are the best they know how to show real aikido not just the showy movements. I wish there would be more masters like Isoyama in Aikikai.
Isoyama has a serious insecurity problem. His strutting around and body language tells it all. He is a bully and a Dinosaur. Some tuition from Yoshinobu Takeda could do him the world of good. The sooner his type are gone the better. Uke is worthy of applause for his Aikido, all for the sake of making some AikEgo bully look good.. The editing is lovely. Well done.
Aikido techniques don't allow to take ukemi. Nage creates a window to take ukemi, in most forms the techniques are very open and uke is failing all over the place (making nake look good! AikiEgo) Isoyama Sensei makes this window very tight (whiteout struggling and muscle power) so uke must be really relax and with his technique. Being calm under pressure, this is also what Aikido has to offer.
Blending with softness and peace is easy compare to hard and aggressive.
Isoyama technique is all shoulders and physical strength. His style disregards most females and weaker males.
Since when has there only been 2 options in aikido -- Brutality, Nastiness and Disrespect for uke or flowery dance?
There is dynamic, assertive power that uses ukes own energy against him by unbalancing his centre and using Aikido principles to destroy him. Isoyama has never found that because of his Dodo attitude and ego problem. He is probably a lovely person.
The movie itself unbalance you, the movie is just there and you are already in a stiff, non blending, attacking mode. (Brutality, Nastiness and Disrespect). Maybe your personality is just like how you think of Isoyama's personality.
I did pay attention and know you are making no sense to me!
First you say that he is a bully, brutal, got personality problems, and the sooner his type are gone the better. And now you are saying that he is a very good teacher and a lovely person.
To answer your questions:
- I got a lot of problems, and you are not one of them.
- I don't see in you what's in me. I'm just responding to your comment.
Most people upload video's they like. Alvintanhk123 uploaded a video to make a point. To show what he believes is "rough and brutal". I support him in his opinion. I don't like to see violence in the dojo, or anywhere else. We need to "perceive and not only see". Miyamoto Musashi.
Aikido is a martial art, which are usually very ego centred. It is supposed to be about letting go?
If you like it then Whatever!! I would say that you also are probably a very decent person.
I never said I like it or not, that is beside my point. When I look at this video, I see good ukemi practice. (Being calm and open under pressure) I don't see the violence part. It is a mutual agreement to practice, and if that practice is not what you prefer go and train in a other Dojo. Do not want to change it. We can learn parts from anyone every were.
Ego is the biggest trap in aikido, everyone fore his/ herself while experience there level of understanding aikido when something real is going fore you (emotional, mentally or physical) in the bigger Dojo kwon as daily life.
Ego is the biggest trap in aikido, everyone fore his/ herself while experience there level of understanding aikido when something real is going fore you (emotional, mentally or physical) in the bigger Dojo kwon as daily life.
Hiroshi Isoyama learned directly from O'Sensei himself. I have had the honor of being uke for him once. He is NOT brutal. He is direct and to the point. Aikido IS about peace and harmony but it is also assertive. As O'Sensei grew older, his technique refined and became lighter and wistful but still effective. Some students took this wistful approach and some went with the more assertive. Regardless, ALL Aikido came from O'Sensei and deserves its place in study.
Actually I think he is a bit Rock&Roll and I like That, I thing there is not enough people in the Traditional Arts Who put the fear of God in people if there was I think people would respect the Martial Arts More 5/5
whoever wrote the description of this video can go fuck himself! Your probably a gay tree hugger and have no experiance with martial arts AS IN MARTIAL ARTS and not dancing or a social cult
remhel123 1 day ago
@alvintanhk123
I think Isoyama Shihan´s Aikido is pure.
He was a faithfull student to O´sensei for many, many years even before we were born..
People forget that Aikido is build on a strict budo tradition that ended only in 1867 with the Meiji restoration, so to understand the essence of Aikido, studying the historical and cultural roots is rewarding. Isoyama Shinhans Aikido is sincere, true and to the point, which in my view is priceless and something we should strive for in our daily training.
labbilab 1 day ago
Good Aikido ! This is the kind of Aikido to be called Real. Although some people think this is brutal, this is a martial art. As a martial art is supposed to defeat the opponent using the techniques. If one think is possible to defeat a real threat using " interior ki " he is fooling himself.
MarcoGenicolo 1 week ago
He is actually in charge to teach Aikido at international convention. So I`m sure he has the experience to use these techniques against bigger foreigners too.
b0810071 3 weeks ago
wouldn't work a bit on drunk Russian in a bar...probably he would even get raped
Fyeagass16 1 month ago
Great video - but not for the reasons the uploader alvinthanhk123 things, lol! Some people really don't have a clue about the heritage and original teachings of Aikido...
utubesqueeze 7 months ago
to the original uploader: you clearly know far less than you think you do about aikido.
somethinginoffensive 9 months ago
I liked this video not because I agree with the uploader's comments, but because this is real pre-war Aikido, not dancing or believing that "inner energy" will protect you against an opponent aiming to kill.
AListMartyB 9 months ago
From the beginning he is having perectly control over the situaition, and are perfectly leading uke, why then in the end throw him so hard, like he his throwing the disgusting contents of the garbage can out of a window
mickparly 10 months ago
Vaya puto animalaco.
oyequetal 10 months ago
What parts of it seemed brutal? I kept watching but I couldn't see... the throws seemed very clean and smooth to me and uke seemed very competent to take them. In my own experience it's not mainly being thrown with a lot of force that's dangerous, it's more about the angles you're thrown at, how suddenly or sharply the joints are twisted, that kind of stuff.... If the throw is clean and smooth and in the 'right' direction, you can take pretty hard throws without getting hurt.
junbh2 11 months ago
I like his style. Aikido is budo,after all,and this uke used to exaggerate techniques like that presented,he is training that for years,and he is one on the toughest man I have ever seen,though. As it comes to Isoyama,that man is real deal. After many videos with dance,which just CANNOT win against real aggresive,it is good to see something like that. Aikido IS way of peace,but how can you express in move,which can be useful in combat?
BK201Pila 1 year ago
Clearly you do not know what "brutal" and "hurting" means. Every Aikido demosntration sholud be AT LEAST like this one.
neko2808 1 year ago
Pushing uke's limits? Sure.
Pushing uke to help forge uke's own body? Sure.
Pushing uke to help uke learn correct and instinctual ukemi in order for him to learn to take care of his body and save himself out of nasty situations? Sure.
Pushing uke to help uke learn to go with the flow and to therefore, eventually, make him a better tori? Sure.
But "brutal"? "Intentionally hurting"? Really? Come on...
cryodragoon 1 year ago
Ban this kind of aikido!!!? Are you practicing Aikido in Singapore? In which dojo?
Rakija76 1 year ago
Awesome video. I think that most of the applause at the end was for the amazing skills of the uke. Some of those throws would have been devastating to a lesser trained being :) Keep training hard!
beardydave 1 year ago
Man, i wish i can be as good as this uke...
Although i am confused with the "intentionally hurting" comment... Isn't pins, grapples and targetting on key body points produce disabling effects, most of the time in the form of pain?
toniodmonio 1 year ago
Beautiful Aikido, Authentic.
aikiguerrero 1 year ago
"intentionally hurting the uke"?
everytime torre applies nikkyo, yonkyo, sankyo they're intentionally hurting uke.
isn't aikido about not causing damage but momentary disabling pain? at really advanced levels this is not needed but for the majority of us, we cause uke some pain.
this is the first i've seen of this shihan and it's excellent.
786hanif 1 year ago
both are great and pattern of aikido tori and uke, many thanks for the video
thkun33 1 year ago
Alvintanhk, this is Aikido. Remember that Aikido is a MARTIAL art.
Aikidopoi 1 year ago
Absolutely Beautiful! i love to see an aikidoka actually putting some omph in his technique. there are WAY too many aikidoka nowadays who have given up the "martial" in this martial art. anyone who wants simple pacifism and chooses not to fight an enemy should just take yoga.
VegaManX7 1 year ago
Isoyama is incredible. This IS Aikido, if you ban "this type of Aikido" you ban all of it lol.
SgtKKitman 1 year ago 2
Isoyama is incredible. That IS Aikido, if you ban "this type of Aikido" you ban all of it.
SgtKKitman 1 year ago
I thought this was a brilliant demonstration. What do you want - fancy dancing? This video, surely, in an answer to all those who say that aikido doesn't work 'for real'. Uke took a beating. But if he didn't, everybody would say: "Yes, but this is rubbish. Look - he hardly touched him and he fell over!" Aikido just can't win with some people!
GojuBob 1 year ago 25
@GojuBob You are right...Really Aikido is about peace and harmony..but it is a Martial Art...So this is the best way to show the energy of Aikido!
AikidoMacedonia1 11 months ago
sucks
TimichCop 1 year ago
The author should be DEFINITELY banned and not listenend to.
I am training under Isoyama. Its a martial art and not a woos dance.
Pussies.
XpiotroXp 1 year ago 4
that was cool.
if my sensai did that, i'd probably die!
truedoom 2 years ago
It's not a koshi-nage cause he is not throwing with his hips. It's a kata-guruma.
emkatsog 2 years ago
Exquisite...I'm with WATTS on this...anything less and you are a certified "Dojo Ballerina". Do you think this Uke would do this if he was being brutalized? That is an absolute perfect example of trust, in your Sensei and your skills.
If everyone adopted this martial attitude of training in Aikido, all the "Aiki-Bunnies" would quit. And that would be a good thing!
SenseiArashi 2 years ago 3
fucking retrds dont give any comment, i am martial artits and this is AIKIDO, Ueshiba tell that aikido is like a dance (metaforicly) but some people understand bucvaly, so you dance and real people will do Aikido, My ukes are karate sensei and you cannot defend with dance you must do real aikido. I will attactk you with katana with my full speed and you protect with harmony and dance, fucking retards who dont expirience pain, aikido is not justu, difference is end of techique,
daito16 2 years ago 2
@daito16
I think you are missing the point. Any one including morons can be rough and brutal to demostrate the martial integrity of aikido. At his level, he should impress the observers with his precise control of power and emotion.
myfudoshin 2 years ago
Anyone know the proper name for the over- the -head body slam type throws he is doing?
H4I2I2EE 2 years ago
@H4I2I2EE I think it is koshinage, but a quite extreme version :)
DavidAndor 2 years ago
irimi nage
shihonage 2 years ago
I think it is Ganseki Otoshi
sunreaper2 2 years ago
Jeez the hypocrisy stinks in here...when the Aikido is soft people complain that it's useless as a martial art and when it's hard and practical they complain that it's not harmonious enough...stfu,
this is the way Aikido should be...the way Ueshiba taught it pre-WW2
watts18269 2 years ago
@watts18269 I agree with you.
hadronica 2 years ago
Amen!
aiki3d 2 years ago
wonderful Aikido. It seems like people get taught Aikido from hippies and think that bein martial in their practice is going against Osensei;s teachings. Aikido like this was the foundation of Osensei's spiritual journey. In his later years it appeared"soft"but it was still effective. These "peace&harmony" gurus have no foundation for their Aikido practice. Their Ukemi is bad because they have no connection to nage. Without the martial practice Aikido ceases to be Aikido.
nickbz83 2 years ago
I had the pleasure of training a few days under Isoyama Shihan last year in Iwama.
He is like his aikido- sincere and serious and auenthentic.
What he shows us is aikido like it was taught to him by O´sensei the founder, because he was a very dedicated student and helped O´sensei a lot
in the years following WWII.
People shouldn´t mistake aikido from dancing,
because they have very little in common in terms of martial application.
Happy New Year
:)
larsbeyer 2 years ago 16
@nickbz83 I agree fully sir!
frozenicelolly 2 years ago
wow. I hope uke has a good health-care insurance.
Probably, he's taking the falls in that way just for the show (otherwise, he'd already be injured).
But anyway... he's gonna hurt himself for sure.
Yeah. Flashy. But dangerous.
Better spend some time learning how to fall... you'll just have more quality-training time (not only specking about hours, also speaking about years)
aikimedianet 2 years ago
If you think he's hurting the uke and if the uke is REALLY hurt, why is he able/capable to stand up EACH time again?
alvintanhk123 CLEARLY thinks Aikido is all magical!! It's EXCELLENT Aikido at its best! something alvintanhk123 is probably NOT practicing! If you want that magical stuff, start BALLET!!
kensakiro 2 years ago
Keep in mind, embu is practically a show. This could be a political message such as "no more flowery stuff" or "see, this IS worth teaching the JSDF".
Watch him teach, he's full of concern for uke. He says things like "there's no space so please don't follow through" or "in case uke can't take the fall for this, do not do it fully unless you're sure".
I'm sure he picked one of his most "durable" uke and instructed him to take high falls for everything instead of just slamming him.
rufebrushtail 2 years ago 2
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yamadaskt 2 years ago
I completely dissagree with the comment in the description. This is Aiki at its best. Why should this be banned when this is effective, and follows the old way. You think a samurai would throw someone in a way that wouldnt hurt them? Hell no, this a warrior art pure and simple.
Delmo67 2 years ago
@Delmo67 ... samurai didn't do "DO" they did "Jutsu" which is "war"... AikiDO is not meant to be tori that slam uke but BOTH create armony in the technique...people that don't realize this and keep looking for street defense should look for something else
sardinianwestcoast 2 years ago
You are missing the point i was making. AikiDO is just the various Aiki techniques from Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu that O-Sensei felt the need to use. The only reason you throw people softly in Aikido is for training. O-Sensei's philosophy was about peace and harmony sure but it was similar to the philosophy of the life giving sword. I'm sure if needed even O-Sensei would throw someone in a less than gentle way. Furthermore, why practice a martial art if its only spiritual for you and not practical?
Delmo67 2 years ago
I'd like to specify that my last sentence was just a general comment. I insist telling that there is not aikido outside the dojo, there is something else which is the martial art you are talking about. I doubt aikido is a "martial" art, in my point of view is more a state of mind, an exercise of control, whether you are uke or tori. I practice aikido for these purposes. If someone practice aikido looking only effectiveness won't go too far in its understanding. Check Endo Sensei videos.
sardinianwestcoast 2 years ago
@sardinianwestcoast No don't agree with this comment. I know that many people would disagree with me, but I am a strong believer that you have to understand and have experienced 'hard' Aikido like this clip demonstrates before you can do the soft Aikido. It's like trying to learn to box without ever taking a proper punch - just my opinion. What is done outside the dojo will be a reflection of what you do IN the dojo - you can't flick a switch and suddenly make it martial (in my opinion).
markaval 1 year ago
@markaval ..but I would agree that Isoyama Sensei treads a fine line between 'powerful' and 'intentionally brutal'. His uke shows just how skillful you have to be when things get really tough - he's in survival mode. Is Isoyama in control? - undoubtedly. Is there a degree of ego in this demonstration - undoubtedly. Is it Aikido from a martial perspective? - undoubtedly. Is it Aikido from a philosophical perspective? - debatable. If he actually intends to hurt uke here then that is not right.
markaval 1 year ago
@Delmo67 I agree with this. Ueshiba himself said that 'Aikido decides life or death in a single strike'. His dojo was known as 'Hell's Dojo' - in a land of dojos that says something pretty emphatic about the way he trained before he got old. For me 'harmony' is not right word - 'blending' is more appropriate. I want to blend with attack whether in dojo or on street. Aikido MUST work outside of dojo or it becomes a meaningless dance. I accept that others want differnt things though
markaval 1 year ago
@sardinianwestcoast mmmm, not technically true. Even Samurai as far back as Edo Period strove for 'aiki' (going back to Kito Ryu and Fukuno systems, combining aiki, ju and kempo principles). Common misconception about Do and Jutsu - the very best Samurai took as much pride in defeating an enemy without hurting him - killing was considered easy, almost vulgar, at the highest levels of skill. May not have been called DO but the principles were there amongst top practitioners even then
markaval 1 year ago
damn!!!!!!!! that was cool... a wonderful an very painful nikkyo...
huseag 2 years ago
In my opinion this a very clear, very effective way of practising aikido. Aikido is - IMHO - a way of budo and as such it needs to be effective in controlling the partner/opponent (in fact, uke is both for me). I personally dislike aikido-styles which do not keep the intention of budo in mind.
TheInvd 2 years ago 2
I Like this Aikido... is pure, hapkido for me is a tae kwon, some aikido techs salad...all in one bowl some moves are good but the most are McDojo for me.
I love strong Aikido ...is for the streets, you need to practice smooth with some guys or girls in your dojo, but need to practice hard for the real life. Aikido Lives!!! Thanks O-Sensei
kamikazenica1 2 years ago
respect to the uke!!!!
alekususan 2 years ago
I like this Aikido
chrisl9 2 years ago 2
All of you never understood aikido and will never understand! I met a guy who practiced jiu-jitsu, and he told me that is no use in multi-combat, only one to one fight.
Aryomaru 2 years ago
To me it's soo funny! Aikido is either too soft and in-effective, or It's too hard and brutal there fore not peacful....!!!!
And I wish these Bjj guys would do their frikkin history! There is no such thing as Bjj. It is nothing more than Ne Waza. ALL JUTSU/JUDO practiced Ne waza. Ne waza is even in Aikido, why? because Aikido stems from Jjj. The Gracie's did a great job of introducing it in a sports venue, but it's always been there.
christlovemins 2 years ago
nope, there is no ne waza in aikido...
Morgothhhh 2 years ago
This uke is awesome, takes balls to get up and attack each time knowing that sensei could snap your neck like a twig, fucking love it, OUS! to the bjj eggs AIKIDO is not competion it is a way to live, as for discipline just turning up for training with no wants or needs to give yourself earns my respect regardless of pyhsical stature. Ripped abs are like butter to a sharp bladed knife. The only competion is life, hopefully peaceful for all.
yummynuts 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
And Les... Aikido requires dancing skill. Not dicipline. There are no fat guys in my bjj class. But I have seen plenty of fat aikidoka. So spare me that dicipline crap.
fumanchudude 2 years ago
Lesbomb, I do brazillian jiu-jitsu. I used to do aikijutsu for several years. Until I wised up and realized that it's not realistic for this day in age at all. It might help me out if a samurai tried to cut at me with a katanna. Otherwise, it's just dancing and not fighting.
fumanchudude 2 years ago
graceful, art in motion, you get people like fumanchudude who if he had just 1% of the discipline that aikido requires he would not be posting childish comments on
lesbomb 2 years ago
Pretty dance. Like geisha.
fumanchudude 2 years ago
AT123 "This type of Aikido should definately be banned and not practised."
I couldn't disagree with you more.....Just because Aikido is about peace doesn't mean that we it has to be soft and "Fake"
Isoyam is awesome and I would love to train with him. By the way (IMHO) Peace Making and Peace Keeping are not the same things, sometimes you must Make peace before you can keep it.
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frozenicelolly 2 years ago
The tough guy here is the Uke. He brought a lot of momentum into his attacks and kept the tempo high.
krichanthebatman 2 years ago
I haven´t see nothing of "rough and brutal". This is very previsible, basic and soft. The old man couldn´t have any chance in a serious fight. But...i understand..this is only an art..of course. Thx ,
mmsouzajr 2 years ago
I must disagree. Someone of Isoyamas caliber can in fact be very dangerous in a real fight. Because of his integrated power and energy reserve combined with his skill. He can deliver extraordinary power and cause injury. Only upon experiencing this kind of power, one will be convinced of it's potential.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
but they are still A method of doing it and they are A aspect you dont have to neglect. i didnt say that is the main task to do to strengthen your body but its ONE aspect. and as it developes preventing tecnique in the case that somebodys gonna throw you and is good physical excercise both at the same time its very practical
Dschi 2 years ago
blah, blah, blah! If you want peace and harmony, give up marcial arts and go learn ikebana or tea ceremony!
mokojira 2 years ago
Very nice way to train Aikidô!
*Claps*
kenninast 2 years ago
this is a great demostration of aikido, and more masters should be how Isoyama sensei. The Aikido Is harmony and peace but powerfull and efective...
danielspaggiari 2 years ago
I won't let him through me around like that, let's see how that Uke is doing, soon enough, when his body is destroyed, and he can barely move. Let's see if Mr. Isoyama is going to solve his Medical/Financial problems for him.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
O'Senei didn't treated Mr. Isoyama in that fashion.
In the Martial Arts, it is men like him, who harm potential. True MA are about Health & Longevity. Destroying your body will bring your ambitions to an early demise.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
this uke is not going to destro his body. he's falling normally and with good technique. i don't think he's hurting himself. im practising judo for more then a decade and the falling is much harder than in this video. and my body is not weakening in fact this makes you stronger.
Dschi 2 years ago
It's not normal to slam your body to the ground. The constant impact will perpetuate injuries and eventually destroy your body in the process. That is why many of the old practitioners of throwing arts become stiff and inflexible. Some require surgeries or get arthritis. Many regretfully, quit training if they don't become teachers.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
You can always quit martial arts and take up ballet. It comes with the territory, if you want to play then you gotta pay. So, stop the whinning about getting hurt chose what ever tickles your little fancy.
salishaw 2 years ago
I practice several Martial Arts including Aikido of which I am an instructor, and intend on doing so for many years with intelligence, wisdom, and compassion. However, arrogant your response, I will address it.
I don't believe that Aikido should be about ones big Ego, in such that I should pound Uke to make myself look good. It defies & contradicts what O'Sensei was teaching. And inherently, it degenerates his legacy.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
With all due respect to Morihei Ueshiba. I can't, and will not subscribe to his philosophical religious beliefs. I give respect to those who do, but I myself have a serious problem with his mixing of marital arts with his Oomoto Shinto Japanese doctrine. I'm only interested in the Aiki-Jujutsu concepts that Aikido has. Whining is a sign of martial immaturity.
salishaw 2 years ago
You know nothing about O'Sensei's beliefs or what he professed, and it wasn't entirely Oomoto kyo, in fact, you say you follow Aikijujtsu, so you don't really understand Aikido's true essence/purpose, nor is it important to you. So, I think this conversation is over.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
That's the point I'm making. I don't care about Morihei Ueshiba beliefs. I'm only concern with marital effectiveness that works for me. The other stuff I don't care about and leave it alone. I agree with sensei Isoyama approach to self defense only. So this video is not brutal to me, because I don't care about Aikido's philosophical or spiritual stuff.
salishaw 2 years ago
so this is why you have to condition your body in a way you can recieve the falls. as i told you ive been practising judo for more then a full decade and the falling is harder than the falling in this video. but i've never injured myself. i nhever had a serious injury not one single time
Dschi 2 years ago
If you think that falling to the ground with force/impact, is not going to affect your back and other joints in your body, then carry on, you will see in time when you are older, how your body will ache with pain. In my experience in Aikido, many of the old Sempai do not take Ukemi, mostly due to their injuries and stiffness.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
gsg9ff. dont you read my comments? i have been falling now for almost 14 years. and i NEVER injured myself. this keeps my body strong. if the old sempai in your dojo have serious injuries and are stiff they do it wrong.
Dschi 2 years ago
You don't see too many Old Judo players practicing Judo. Look in my Videos at some of the Old Chinese Internal Martial Arts Master's, well into their 90's moving as fast and flexible as any athletic 20 Y/0. That's because they have cultivated internal chi, with little impact to their bodies. It's a very basic principle/concept backed by Science.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
so you're disqualifying my argument by saying that YOU have not seen many judo players that are over 90? thats because YOU haven't practised judo seriously if you ever trained it at all, because i can tell you that there are very old judoka
Dschi 2 years ago
They may be 'teaching' it, not many taking break falls to the ground. Why would you want to take Break Falls to the ground at an advanced age? It's absurd.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
first of all: if you keep training at high age and take ukemi at high age it trains your body which is very healthy. it maintains your phisical strength even at high ages. and besides you can't decide if you get thrown or not. and if you get thrown by your partner, you have to be in practise of ukemi not t hurt yourslef
Dschi 2 years ago
At Old Age, your body's calcium breaks down, you are especially prone to fracture's, Example: Hip Fractures. So, I don't know why or how, you keep trying to justify your arguement. Tell me where to look, to find Old Men Taking awesome Break Falls. ?
gsg9ff 2 years ago
your twisting my words. i never said you must do awesome break falls at high age. but you must keep your ukemi waza effective as long as its possible because you cant evade being thrown in randori for example.
Dschi 2 years ago
I never twisted your words, I speak for myself with my own input and words in response to your comments. Still, after all your writing, you don't make any logical sense in your arguement that ukemi is Healthy. And whether ukemi is effective or not is irrelevant to what I am addressing. Prolonged Ukemi can hurt you. In real fighting, I will never let someone throw me so easily, just as any skilled fighter will do.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
Ukemi is healthy because it trains your body and it helps to develope a strong body which you will need to practise martial arts. And it is relevant if your ukemi is effective. because IF you get thrown and you cant evade getting thrown sometimes you will need to do ukemi because it is the only way NOT to hurt yourself. A good ukemi wont ever injure you if it does you practise it wrong
Dschi 2 years ago
It is true that skilled breakfalls are essential to MA & can potentially protect your body from a fall to the ground. However, if you have tried breakfalling on concrete, you can still get injured regardless. As far as Health or Strength training is concerned, there are other ways to develop power that is more efficient/practical than with breakfalls. I wouldn't look to breakfalls to strengthen my body.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
Check out 10 Dan "Kyuzo Mifune" He demonstrates how he is not going to let someone throw him.
gsg9ff 2 years ago
i know mifune kyuzo hanshi i am a judoka ^^. But yeah you are right he is not going to let someone throw him. But be sure ybout he knows how to fall even if he's not thrown (and he was never thrown in competition throughout his life) and the difference between the videos is that mifune in his vids is practising randori while this one here shows a demonstration.
Dschi 2 years ago
Damn good uke i must say.
And very, very good aikido, prewar style, just like ueshiba was teaching prior the WW2. Very nice.
Morgothhhh 2 years ago
You're such a bitchs, the duude is good. Martial Arts has to be brutal and aggressive...
shevmania 2 years ago
hard cool aikido i like it !!
dnt82 3 years ago
i don't understand why there is so much people complaining about isoyama shihans style. this is not brutal. the uke is falling normally and allthough aikido is about peace and harmony you cant switch out phisical laws. falling IS hard. and aikido is an martial art. so an aikidoka as a martial artist has got to train his body in that mannor that he is able to recive techniques physically AND technically (ukemi) aikido is body AND mind not only mind. train your body and your spirit will follow
Dschi 3 years ago 2
agreed
nanatzu 2 years ago
A not very skilled uke would not take all the throws..or ends with broken bones.Isoyama san as I remeber said last year to participants: "There was a time I thought training without injury was not a good training..but do not be afraid..today I don't think so. ;)..I strongly admire this man!His techinque and ability for teaching...And must agree with some comments..this kind of aikido disappers unfortunately..however aikido is aikido..it depends on individual interpretation Isoyama one is superb
janubart 3 years ago
Please watch my videos for an exciting version. please support all channels containg his aikido!
arrigato!
Aur0rah 3 years ago
Awesome Uke to take such powerful throws! I did note on 1:30 uke shakin' himself off after taking a wicked Iriminage! KA BLAM!
vancouverism 3 years ago
if you learn to be a uke you will also be able to do this! isoyama knows what he does he is not destroying the individual before him, altough he could.
Aur0rah 3 years ago
Isoyama Sensei is very kind and witty person. His technique is excellent and astonishing. As well as physical state (remember how old he is) I had a great pleasure to take part in meeting with Isoyama Sensei last year in Poland, and this year I will be there for sure!! Isoyama san is not brutal..he is simply effective! He is not rough..he is smooth in a different way ;). Peace! Greetings to all akido practicioners!
janubart 3 years ago
i havent met him but i very much agree with you! this is not "toss me arround" show off aikido.. you should know what imean.
Aur0rah 3 years ago
How do you intend to practice a lock-based art without pain? With lock throws especially, your technique is going to fail if you don't put the pain on. The pain in a lot of these techniques is what makes Uke move. So long as he doesn't actually break Uke, it's fine.
EkimCF 3 years ago 3
Hey, honey, this is a martial art. Why don't you try yoga instead.
yokomokulo 3 years ago
thats why Aikido gets ragged on,cause when someone does it right,people rag him for being powerful,there envious..hes 9th dan,remember that before you critize someone better than you.your Aikido should aspire to be like that,plus its a performace.Isoyama Sensei is awsome to behold,and Steven Seagal was his student,his form shows it.
aikikhan 3 years ago
if someone goes arround trying to do what isoyama does that is not good intention that is not aikido , you can only become in my opinion good at doing powerfull techniques when you find out that they are truelly not powerfull. What isoyama does not amny understand that its not the term people say "Effective" its just another expression its not more "power"
Aur0rah 3 years ago
wow! his sooooo good, AMAZING!
DonxxSollozzo 3 years ago
pinches mamadas
esta verga no te sirbe pa nada ahahahaa
josa619 3 years ago
jajaja te aseguro que con un Koshi Nage quedas mas feo de lo que ya Dios te hizo ;)
fmluisito 3 years ago
hahaha pendejo
es tu kaso verdad hahah
josa619 3 years ago
Por que estas usandos palabras malas? Son las unicas palabras que sabes? Mal educado.
cora3713 3 years ago
GEESEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
antederemon 3 years ago
isoyama is not brutal he practices a traditional way of aikido from ibaraki so i dont think he is brutal he gives what he had been tought by ueshiba sensei and primary from morihiro saito sensei. look at inagaki sensei, he practices like isoyama, and they are both from ibaraki.
totomagic 3 years ago
the one thing I will say though is.
he carries to much chi..or intent...
or ...gah.. I'm just gonna call it tension in the shoulders.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
your info also shows you easily are sucked into a performance...
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
this isn't brutality. lmao
this is what it should look like.
if you see to much flow... then you loose the affect of what it should be in real life.
we can't expect for aikdio on the street to look blissful as it does here. chaos vs order.
i see sometimes in aikido were a student puts out to much flow. it makes it look very fake. at least this trainning is showing something right. just a little more of flow. not an overwhelming amount.
MrPinoy91 3 years ago
Ueshiba Morihei never said: aikido is a soft style. He said: you should stand the intersection of yin and yang (soft and hard).
I think the correct way is a correct form from the out (as it do Isoyama sensei, because the Hombu-way has too much mistake), and a correct feeling from the inner ( as it do Endo sensei, because the Iwama-way has too much fighting): this is the pont of intersection. But where is the ONE master?!
hiromoritosai 3 years ago
Osensei has broken his student arm (I think his uke were Shirata and Sioda sensei)at a demonstration before the World War, because his uke was too tired. So, the Founder's aikido was not "the aikido" too?!
Isoyama sensei nowdays the only living shihan who was Osensei's long-time-student (it means Hombu student wasn't the Founder's student, because it's not a corresponding course from Iwama to Tokyo:))
The big question is: what practice you or most of the world?!
SunAquarius19 3 years ago 2
That wasn't the last time what I've heard.
onemasse 2 years ago
alvintanhk123 - Shame on you for writing incorrect & disrespectful things about Isoyama-Sensei in a public forum. He is not intentionally hurting his uke, who seems to be handling the demo without difficulty. You aren't shihan. You don't have the experience or rank to determine such things or what should be banned. I understand that you don't like his Aikido, but you haven't the right to publicly criticize a sensei you will never equal. Show proper respect & remove your comment about this video.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
Isoyama-Sensei takes a position of being able to take whatever comes your way - IF you wear the black belt. He is not the only sesnei that holds this view. Talk of this being banned or that his technique is sub-standard is gnorant and disrespectful - just what you can expect from someone who doesn't have or isn't good enough to be a yudansha. Talking crap about a teacher whose rank and ability you will never attain is the sign of a lousy Aikidoka, hiding behind the internet.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
I think this sensei is great. He has an excellent technique, clean and effective. Besides he´s elegant.
huseag 3 years ago
I don't think it should be banned. It shows a martial nature that so many lack these days. Aikido is whatever you make it out to be, even Osensei was considered quite brutal in his early days.
Gfan1987 3 years ago
Absolutely. Eve as he got older, he was very civil in general. Quite kind and open hearted but in the dojo he was said to be dangerous, if not LETHAL.
c00lwatter 3 years ago
Brutal Nikyo @ 1:24!
gsg9f 3 years ago
ywah!! what about at 1:02 and 1:47 ??
jamrock300zx 3 years ago
My Sensei has mentioned his time with Isoyama Sensei a couple of times, it's great to finally see him lifting Uke's above his head as my Sensei described...
I agre, it is a little rough, but there is a certain magnificence to it as well...
Aikidopoi 3 years ago
But, it is not only his technique but also his attitude that is unhealthy for Aikido. Because of him we cannot even mention "Iwama" or anything relating to Morihiro Saito Sensei in Ibaraki dojo. As the current head of Ibaraki, he is trying to wipe away the memory of Saito Sensei. It is outrageous and so very sad..
nsmmt 3 years ago
Neela, he talks very fondly of Saito Shihan. I don't think he is trying to erase his memory. They were good friends. Why regale us with affectionate stories of their escapades together? In two years, I've never been told I can't mention Iwama. There was something else going regarding the collarbone incident.
kaarutomuson 3 years ago
Isoyama broke the collar bone of an uchideshi while I was in Japan and I have heard of worse. Most foreigners there know to be wary of him because he is unpredictable. From observation, I dont believe he is especially malicious, he wants to look good and his technique is sub-standard that he must use quick and hard moves to make a show of it.
nsmmt 3 years ago
When I began Aikido almost 40 yrs ago, I learned that if I'm injured taking ukemi, the responsibility is solely mine, not nage's. Just like a poor workman blames his tools, a poor Aikidoka blames nage. Are you such an expert, that you can make the statements you do - being insulting & disrespectful toward someone like Isoyama-Sensei & his students? You're a poor example of Aikido, talking the way you do. But then you don't need to be responsible for what you say, do you? Internet anonymitiy.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
My comments were impetuous and rude. I regret to have posted it. It does not convey the Aikido spirit.
But good ukemi does not mean you can avoid injury altogether. You cannot evade malicious intent. There is give and take in nage and uke. It is sad to see people who do not respect their partners bodies whether out of ignorance or disregard it doesn't matter.
nsmmt 3 years ago
nsmmt - Thank you for your comments. I could have been more generous in my response.
I have responded to the things you've said by posting to you directly. In that way I am not frustrated by the 500 character limit here.
OldAikiDog 3 years ago
I have attend several Isoyama Shihan seminars. he is very kind and gentle with beginners and even with the upper Kyus and Udansha that he can clearly see can't take good Ukemi. He has a great deal of kindness in his heart. Aikido is still listed as a martial art and for those blackbelts that have very good ukemi Isoyama Shihan throws them accordingly.
muffyno20 3 years ago 2
alvintanhk123 this is an aikido that is going to disappear.... a pity really, most of the aikido today is too soft
xlins 3 years ago
First time ive seen the high kotegaeshi in a video. This sensei is awesome!
shikakubu 3 years ago
I wish I could train and improve my Aikido with that sensei for a while.
But imho, the best sensei is the one who knows you, who has seen you improving day by day
xlins 3 years ago
I don't like the editing, but the master is excellent, strong technique and a lot of Ki energy, the old masters are the best they know how to show real aikido not just the showy movements. I wish there would be more masters like Isoyama in Aikikai.
snakeeye12 3 years ago
Isoyama has a serious insecurity problem. His strutting around and body language tells it all. He is a bully and a Dinosaur. Some tuition from Yoshinobu Takeda could do him the world of good. The sooner his type are gone the better. Uke is worthy of applause for his Aikido, all for the sake of making some AikEgo bully look good.. The editing is lovely. Well done.
fudo9 3 years ago
Aikido techniques don't allow to take ukemi. Nage creates a window to take ukemi, in most forms the techniques are very open and uke is failing all over the place (making nake look good! AikiEgo) Isoyama Sensei makes this window very tight (whiteout struggling and muscle power) so uke must be really relax and with his technique. Being calm under pressure, this is also what Aikido has to offer.
Blending with softness and peace is easy compare to hard and aggressive.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
i would kill to have isoyama's technique. if you wanna study dance instead of aikido, go and study dance.
jeffcrouch 3 years ago
Isoyama technique is all shoulders and physical strength. His style disregards most females and weaker males.
Since when has there only been 2 options in aikido -- Brutality, Nastiness and Disrespect for uke or flowery dance?
There is dynamic, assertive power that uses ukes own energy against him by unbalancing his centre and using Aikido principles to destroy him. Isoyama has never found that because of his Dodo attitude and ego problem. He is probably a lovely person.
fudo9 3 years ago
The movie itself unbalance you, the movie is just there and you are already in a stiff, non blending, attacking mode. (Brutality, Nastiness and Disrespect). Maybe your personality is just like how you think of Isoyama's personality.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
Yes maybe.
fudo9 3 years ago
His Aikido not his personality. He is a very good teacher and a lovely person. Pay attention. What's your problem? You see in me what is in you?
fudo9 3 years ago
I did pay attention and know you are making no sense to me!
First you say that he is a bully, brutal, got personality problems, and the sooner his type are gone the better. And now you are saying that he is a very good teacher and a lovely person.
To answer your questions:
- I got a lot of problems, and you are not one of them.
- I don't see in you what's in me. I'm just responding to your comment.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
Most people upload video's they like. Alvintanhk123 uploaded a video to make a point. To show what he believes is "rough and brutal". I support him in his opinion. I don't like to see violence in the dojo, or anywhere else. We need to "perceive and not only see". Miyamoto Musashi.
Aikido is a martial art, which are usually very ego centred. It is supposed to be about letting go?
If you like it then Whatever!! I would say that you also are probably a very decent person.
fudo9 3 years ago
I never said I like it or not, that is beside my point. When I look at this video, I see good ukemi practice. (Being calm and open under pressure) I don't see the violence part. It is a mutual agreement to practice, and if that practice is not what you prefer go and train in a other Dojo. Do not want to change it. We can learn parts from anyone every were.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
Ego is the biggest trap in aikido, everyone fore his/ herself while experience there level of understanding aikido when something real is going fore you (emotional, mentally or physical) in the bigger Dojo kwon as daily life.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
Ego is the biggest trap in aikido, everyone fore his/ herself while experience there level of understanding aikido when something real is going fore you (emotional, mentally or physical) in the bigger Dojo kwon as daily life.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
Your points ...
1 - "I see good ukemi practice" . - I agree. Total entry for survival.
1 - "It is a mutual agreement to practice" to practice together.- Not One person beats the shite out of the other.
2 --" I don't see the violence part". -That's what I'm saying.
3 - "go and train in a other Dojo". Turn your back on your fear and don't evolve.
4 - We can learn parts from anyone every were. - I learned about you
I get the full pix now.
fudo9 3 years ago
Hé, that is great.
You points at the other end are going all over the place.
First he is brutal, etc, and then he is a good teacher with a good personality.
Then he is violent, then he is not violent.
aikidoamsterdam 3 years ago
Isoyama Sensei is one of the greats of Aikido living today.
timothyjarchambault 3 years ago
Hiroshi Isoyama learned directly from O'Sensei himself. I have had the honor of being uke for him once. He is NOT brutal. He is direct and to the point. Aikido IS about peace and harmony but it is also assertive. As O'Sensei grew older, his technique refined and became lighter and wistful but still effective. Some students took this wistful approach and some went with the more assertive. Regardless, ALL Aikido came from O'Sensei and deserves its place in study.
Deke101 3 years ago
Actually I think he is a bit Rock&Roll and I like That, I thing there is not enough people in the Traditional Arts Who put the fear of God in people if there was I think people would respect the Martial Arts More 5/5
gekiryudojo 4 years ago
I have seen Isoyama Shihan and directly have experienced his waza.
His waza is very vigorous but he does not use excesive force. Another feature is that Shihan is very carefull if uke can exept his technique.
Logracira 4 years ago
you want part of aikido banned?
How can you be a master of aikido if you don't know all of it, only the 'love and peace' parts?
you claimed that this was EGOkido that isn't true at all
this is AIKIDO and aikido is aikido
hoyt596 4 years ago
He's technic is to much hard... For what? is not necesary, I dont´n like it.
Novum07 4 years ago