Ughh...this makes me sick. BUSH pardons another felon. Libby belongs in a cage right next to KKKarl Rover. This administration has been the most scandalous I'll probably ever see in my lifetime and hopefully my kid's too. The Republipuke party needs to get booted the fuck out of this world, with all their crazy hillbillies, crazy Christians, and greedy bastards.
Scooter Libby won't serve a day in jail! If you haven't realized by now that this current regime has no respect for the constitution or any sense of accountablity then you are completely naive. They have successfully circumvented the checks and balances. Welcome to rule by oligarchy! The sad thing is, you WON'T do anything but talk about it when it happens!
medic19800 and others are a bit confused about my comment a few days back. I was referring to the 9/11 cover-up about the prior warning of the 5th September 2001. 9/11 should not have happened and hence strange confidence for appeal unless you know background.
What's this hubbub about Scooter going to the pokey? I just saw him the other day with Cleetus and they was having a hell of a time greasing this pig. I reckon Boss Hog will bail him out. It's just a shame.
But.....their skin is brown.....that's why the GOP put them down in Guantanamo instead of here in the US where they would be entitled to Habeus Corpus and a lawyer and due process. The GOP is good at things like that...dividing then conquering. That's not the USA I know and love. That's the GOP's USA.
Libby was sentenced for lying to a grand jury, not for the actual reason why he was dragged there in the first place.... There is one other person I know of that lied to a grand jury, and they never went to jail... could his name be Bill Clinton?
lal, that may be, however they both lied to a grand jury. And Clinton admitted to it. I am not defending Libby, he gets what is coming to him, I am pointing out the inconsistencies in this whole issue. Hopefully you see my point.
I do see your point and I'm willing to concede that Clinton should go to jail for his perjury as long as Libby's defenders concede that Libby should go to jail for longer time than Clinton.
The reportage seemed smugly delighted with Libby's sentence to me. Aren't reporters supposed to remain objective?
Scooter, after all the appeals are over, and if he has to actually go to jail, can simply invoke the Paris Hilton method of getting a release. Go on a hunger strike and beg for mercy.
Wow, 30 MONTHS. The way the Liberal Media puts it it's 30 YEARS! Who cares, He will be pardoned and even if he is not he probally would get out in 10 months for good behavior. This is a non-story.
you dumbass, the video gives quotes about how everyone thought this was a serious crime. You corupt repbulicans just love to downplay you're own failures. If Bush tries to pardon a criminal, he will get impeached by the democratic controlled congress. Now shut your highschool mouth and learn something.
HA HA HA HA at you. You child! You actually think congress can impeach the president for pardoning someone? HA HA HA HA, wow you are dumb, I mean I have met plnety of dumb people in my life but your way up there. I guess Clinton got impeached for pardoning those Puerto Rican terrorist right?
you have no idea who you are talking to, im actually studying politics and he can get impeached if a mjority of congress feels that it is the right thing to do.
I guarantee i am more educated and smarter than your right wing ass, you are completley wrong in everything you just said.
Go choke on failure fries you dirty little facist.
You are not articulate at all. And no little communist, congress cannot impeach someone only because "they feel it's the right thing to do", they need a valid,court approved reason not just a gut feeling. Also, what is "mjority" and what does "completley" mean? You just bragged about how smart you are...thanks for proving it.
Grounds for impeachment is "high crimes and misdemeanors" but that term is not defined anywhere. So, Congress can in fact impeach a President for anything real or imagined, assuming they have the votes. Remember "impeach" does not mean "remove from office" it is more like "bring to trial." And finally, it is not a court that names the powers of the Legislative Branch, it is the language of the Consitution that controls.
It is when they ask "did you get a blow job?" and he says "nope". When he should have said "yup". Gotcha--purgery. Come on now, even us republicans can figure that one out. He wasn't impeached for the blowjob, but for lying about the blowjob knowingly.
Yer not going to start the "Bush lied" campaign are you. There's just too much evidence to the contrary, too many clips from dems making the same case Bush did, and it's tiresome at this point.
Dems were warning about WMD in Iraq before Bush ever entered office. Clinton himself references these facts. Rev. Gore is on record blasting Bush Sr. about NOT doing anything about Iraq's WMD programs in '92-even used it for his campaign. Not to mention the intel on Iraq came from CLINTON carry-overs in the State Dept. You blame Bush for lying about intel given to him by dems.
Your facts seem to be conveniently blurred. All of the major Dems are on record agreeing to the War (because it polled well). Dems had the very same access to the very same information which led the Dems and Bush to vote for the war. (con't)
1. Bush withheld such information, which every investigation as to such an allegation has been proved false by congress- hence no charges filed. (controlled by dems).
2. There was substantial evidence of WMD through prior use, refusal to allow inspections, international consensus.
3. Dems are great legislators assuming they may take hind-sight into account.
I reject the premise that they learned from their mistake. Their opposition to the war is solely based on which way the political winds blow--hence the numerous changes changes on their stance. Their opposition is only about political gain. That is a stance of international weakness & pandering, not leadership.
I also reject that dems let Bush "have his way". His way was the way of the American people and that of a unanimous congress. Everyone based their own decision on the exact same evidence. Its the dems that fold only because they see political advantage to do so by undercutting the troops, weakening public support and emboldening the terrorists through their cheap political games. Unprincipled, manipulative, valueless political power grab. Leaders lead by principals, not polls.
I guess you will always be a lib--can't save everyone. Course I understand that...The left on the other hand will probably try to create a govt program TO save everyone and tax the crap out of everyone else to make it FAIR and EQUITABLE since it's not their fault.
If you choose to stay believing in Bush that is your choice and i respect you for it.
But next time a president from whatever affiliation say America should attack another country for whatever reason you remember our little discussion so you won't be fooled again.
I didn't realize that High School politics courses covered the intricacies of impeachment. Your knowledge of the subject is humorously lacking. How's summer school going for you? Look on the bright side, you can go to your junior prom TWICE!
that whole case was a joke. Why didn't they even charge him for outting that ho Plame? When they knew they had no case, they went fishing to see what would bite. Totally policially motivated and pathetic. Betcha heeee's par-doned...HA (that's gonna sting a little...)
Marcy -- I want you on TV every day, M-F, with a nightly wrap up od day's events. No once comes close to you... Oh, okay, Josh comes close... but your glasses are better than his. That should settle it.
Marcy does look great! I love the plain Jane outfit, no make-up, librarian glasses, and frizzy doo! I love it when she says uh, uh, throughout the report. She should be anchor for CBS. Too bad Scooter gets 30 months for being forgetful, and Paris Hilton gets 3 days for drunk driving. That's justice!
Help me figure this out. Sandy Berger stole classified documents and destroyed them in his office and was fined. Scooter basically told the truth about how Wilson ended up in Niger and he's doing time?
I guess justice depends on which party you support.
Then the criminal that we have for a president releases him. WE MUST IMPEACH BUSH and the ADMIN NOW!!!!
****** CONGRESS, DO YOUR JOB AND REPRESENT WE THE PEOPLE ***** IMPEACH NOW!!!!
stevethul1 3 years ago
Ughh...this makes me sick. BUSH pardons another felon. Libby belongs in a cage right next to KKKarl Rover. This administration has been the most scandalous I'll probably ever see in my lifetime and hopefully my kid's too. The Republipuke party needs to get booted the fuck out of this world, with all their crazy hillbillies, crazy Christians, and greedy bastards.
timmyblaze 4 years ago
Paris Hilton got a tougher sentence than Scooter Libby!
keygbay 4 years ago
Fortunately Paris Hilton doesn't work for Cheney.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Scooter Libby won't serve a day in jail! If you haven't realized by now that this current regime has no respect for the constitution or any sense of accountablity then you are completely naive. They have successfully circumvented the checks and balances. Welcome to rule by oligarchy! The sad thing is, you WON'T do anything but talk about it when it happens!
UncleRico13 4 years ago
medic19800 and others are a bit confused about my comment a few days back. I was referring to the 9/11 cover-up about the prior warning of the 5th September 2001. 9/11 should not have happened and hence strange confidence for appeal unless you know background.
mikexxxxxnolan 4 years ago
What's this hubbub about Scooter going to the pokey? I just saw him the other day with Cleetus and they was having a hell of a time greasing this pig. I reckon Boss Hog will bail him out. It's just a shame.
theropingeffect 4 years ago
At least Libby got accused, tried, and then convicted.
There are many in Guantanamo would like the same luxury but the trouble is they are to keep secrets in.
It is double standards that shame the USA.
mikexxxxxnolan 4 years ago
But.....their skin is brown.....that's why the GOP put them down in Guantanamo instead of here in the US where they would be entitled to Habeus Corpus and a lawyer and due process. The GOP is good at things like that...dividing then conquering. That's not the USA I know and love. That's the GOP's USA.
medic19800 4 years ago
It's amazing. Scooter gets 30 months and Sandy Burgler gets a slap on the wrist. Unbelievable!
darcytirsia 4 years ago
And yet you believe in Creationism.
I guess it's only unbelievable to you when bad things happen to Republican.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Libby was sentenced for lying to a grand jury, not for the actual reason why he was dragged there in the first place.... There is one other person I know of that lied to a grand jury, and they never went to jail... could his name be Bill Clinton?
netcisco 4 years ago
Bill Clinton was acquitted.
Libby isn't.
That's the different.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
lal, that may be, however they both lied to a grand jury. And Clinton admitted to it. I am not defending Libby, he gets what is coming to him, I am pointing out the inconsistencies in this whole issue. Hopefully you see my point.
netcisco 4 years ago
I do see your point and I'm willing to concede that Clinton should go to jail for his perjury as long as Libby's defenders concede that Libby should go to jail for longer time than Clinton.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
lal... LOL! Well, we can't agree on everything. Either way, they should both go.. as to how long, to be honest, I really can't say.
netcisco 4 years ago
The reportage seemed smugly delighted with Libby's sentence to me. Aren't reporters supposed to remain objective?
Scooter, after all the appeals are over, and if he has to actually go to jail, can simply invoke the Paris Hilton method of getting a release. Go on a hunger strike and beg for mercy.
TAMARLANE 4 years ago
This is PoliticsTv. They are a "Progressive" program. AKA LIberal, AKA Get boners when something bad happens to people they disagree with.
TheAmericanManifesto 4 years ago
Wow, 30 MONTHS. The way the Liberal Media puts it it's 30 YEARS! Who cares, He will be pardoned and even if he is not he probally would get out in 10 months for good behavior. This is a non-story.
TheAmericanManifesto 4 years ago
you dumbass, the video gives quotes about how everyone thought this was a serious crime. You corupt repbulicans just love to downplay you're own failures. If Bush tries to pardon a criminal, he will get impeached by the democratic controlled congress. Now shut your highschool mouth and learn something.
sixstringer101 4 years ago
HA HA HA HA at you. You child! You actually think congress can impeach the president for pardoning someone? HA HA HA HA, wow you are dumb, I mean I have met plnety of dumb people in my life but your way up there. I guess Clinton got impeached for pardoning those Puerto Rican terrorist right?
TheAmericanManifesto 4 years ago
you have no idea who you are talking to, im actually studying politics and he can get impeached if a mjority of congress feels that it is the right thing to do.
I guarantee i am more educated and smarter than your right wing ass, you are completley wrong in everything you just said.
Go choke on failure fries you dirty little facist.
sixstringer101 4 years ago
You are not articulate at all. And no little communist, congress cannot impeach someone only because "they feel it's the right thing to do", they need a valid,court approved reason not just a gut feeling. Also, what is "mjority" and what does "completley" mean? You just bragged about how smart you are...thanks for proving it.
TheAmericanManifesto 4 years ago
Grounds for impeachment is "high crimes and misdemeanors" but that term is not defined anywhere. So, Congress can in fact impeach a President for anything real or imagined, assuming they have the votes. Remember "impeach" does not mean "remove from office" it is more like "bring to trial." And finally, it is not a court that names the powers of the Legislative Branch, it is the language of the Consitution that controls.
Secularprophet 4 years ago
"they need a valid,court approved reason not just a gut feeling".
So going after a president for lying about a blow job counts as valid, court approved reason?
You Republicans are so smart.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
It is when they ask "did you get a blow job?" and he says "nope". When he should have said "yup". Gotcha--purgery. Come on now, even us republicans can figure that one out. He wasn't impeached for the blowjob, but for lying about the blowjob knowingly.
H8DaLibs 4 years ago
Hey I'm not saying that Clinton not guilty.
I'm saying that impeachment for a president whose lies only ruin his marriage and his mistress dress is somewhat a big effing waste of time.
Now if he lied about starting a war which wasted a lot American lives that would be something worth impeaching about.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Yer not going to start the "Bush lied" campaign are you. There's just too much evidence to the contrary, too many clips from dems making the same case Bush did, and it's tiresome at this point.
H8DaLibs 4 years ago
"There's just too much evidence to the contrary, too many clips from dems making the same case Bush did, and it's tiresome at this point".
The dems believe Bush at the time for the same reason you still believe Bush.
They thought Bush has the nation's best interest and wouldn't lie to them about Iraq's WMD.
The difference is they don't want to get fooled again by Bush or his ilk.
If you still want to be fooled you can go "right" ahead (pun clearly intended).
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Dems were warning about WMD in Iraq before Bush ever entered office. Clinton himself references these facts. Rev. Gore is on record blasting Bush Sr. about NOT doing anything about Iraq's WMD programs in '92-even used it for his campaign. Not to mention the intel on Iraq came from CLINTON carry-overs in the State Dept. You blame Bush for lying about intel given to him by dems.
johnh926 4 years ago
"Not to mention the intel on Iraq came from CLINTON carry-overs in the State Dept. You blame Bush for lying about intel given to him by dems".
Oh John you got your fact mixed up again.
The intel from Clinton warned Bush about BIN LADEN not Iraq's WMD.
Besides on the run up to Iraq war Hans Blix (remember him?) has told that Iraq DOES NOT have WMD.
So Bush had fresh intel about how Iraq NOT having WMD and still he attacked.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Your facts seem to be conveniently blurred. All of the major Dems are on record agreeing to the War (because it polled well). Dems had the very same access to the very same information which led the Dems and Bush to vote for the war. (con't)
johnh926 4 years ago
Logically, you must assume one of 3 things:
1. Bush withheld such information, which every investigation as to such an allegation has been proved false by congress- hence no charges filed. (controlled by dems).
2. There was substantial evidence of WMD through prior use, refusal to allow inspections, international consensus.
3. Dems are great legislators assuming they may take hind-sight into account.
johnh926 4 years ago
I'm not absolving dems for their complicity in letting Bush has his way with Iraq.
But at least they learn from their mistake.
Now the question is John are you?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I reject the premise that they learned from their mistake. Their opposition to the war is solely based on which way the political winds blow--hence the numerous changes changes on their stance. Their opposition is only about political gain. That is a stance of international weakness & pandering, not leadership.
johnh926 4 years ago
I also reject that dems let Bush "have his way". His way was the way of the American people and that of a unanimous congress. Everyone based their own decision on the exact same evidence. Its the dems that fold only because they see political advantage to do so by undercutting the troops, weakening public support and emboldening the terrorists through their cheap political games. Unprincipled, manipulative, valueless political power grab. Leaders lead by principals, not polls.
johnh926 4 years ago
"Leaders lead by principals, not polls".
What kind of principle a man has that if he makes a mistake he refuses to change course?
"His way was the way of the American people and that of a unanimous congress".
And that way has proven to be wrong and costly.
So i ask again
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I just did! I learned!
1. politics before priciples
2. power before ethics
3. pandering buys votes
4. Scapegoats and witch hunts = justice
5. Blow Job perjury is legal
6. Classified docs in your pants is just a "whoops"
and
7. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault.
Did I miss anything?
johnh926 4 years ago
Apparently you missed:
1. Preemptive strike on bad intel is bad
2. Stubbornness is not a principle
3. Perjury to obstruct justice is WORSE than perjury about a blowjob
4. Following the will of the people isn't pandering
5. You still haven't learned ANYTHING
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I guess you will always be a lib--can't save everyone. Course I understand that...The left on the other hand will probably try to create a govt program TO save everyone and tax the crap out of everyone else to make it FAIR and EQUITABLE since it's not their fault.
johnh926 4 years ago
It's been a pleasure debating with you with out getting personal. You Tube needs more liberals like you.
John.
johnh926 4 years ago
Thank you John.
If you choose to stay believing in Bush that is your choice and i respect you for it.
But next time a president from whatever affiliation say America should attack another country for whatever reason you remember our little discussion so you won't be fooled again.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
"Their opposition is only about political gain. That is a stance of international weakness & pandering, not leadership".
So following the will of the people is pandering?
And changing one's mind when mistaken is weakness?
Only the weak think being stubborn is a sign of strength.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I didn't realize that High School politics courses covered the intricacies of impeachment. Your knowledge of the subject is humorously lacking. How's summer school going for you? Look on the bright side, you can go to your junior prom TWICE!
johnh926 4 years ago
he will be pardoned. Marcy, you is so damn ugly, you need a job in the zoo.
goldfinger41 4 years ago
that whole case was a joke. Why didn't they even charge him for outting that ho Plame? When they knew they had no case, they went fishing to see what would bite. Totally policially motivated and pathetic. Betcha heeee's par-doned...HA (that's gonna sting a little...)
johnh926 4 years ago
"Why didn't they even charge him for outting that ho Plame?".
Because it wasn't him it was Armitage.
Libby was charged with perjury.
Please get your facts straight.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I forget, is Sandy "Burglar" rotting in prison for felonly theft by sticking classified documents down his drawers?
johnh926 4 years ago
I forget, how long did Billary Clinton serve in prison for his purgery trial and HE was the President?
johnh926 4 years ago
It seems you also forget that Clinton was ACQUITTED.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
but gets the shame of impeachment. Nice "legacy" for a horny redneck.
H8DaLibs 4 years ago
Some shame, Bill Clinton gets 10 million dollar from speeches alone this year.
If that's his legacy then he's laughing all the way to the bank.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
and I'm sure the history books will publish his bank statements. he was a stain on American history (no refrence to blue dress intended...)
H8DaLibs 4 years ago
"and I'm sure the history books will publish his bank statements".
Aaw you're just mad because Clinton still more popular than Bush even when he's no longer president.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Keep that son of a bitch in jail and throw bush and cheney in there with him.
sixstringer101 4 years ago
Marcy -- I want you on TV every day, M-F, with a nightly wrap up od day's events. No once comes close to you... Oh, okay, Josh comes close... but your glasses are better than his. That should settle it.
quicksite 4 years ago
thanks for your honesty and great reporting, Marcy.
honestyispatriotic 4 years ago
Marcy has a gigantic brain!
dougkeenan 4 years ago
Marcy is awesome!! Without a doubt the best reporting on this case, thanks FDL, Jane Hamsher and Marcy!!
Neoconhater 4 years ago
Marcy does look great! I love the plain Jane outfit, no make-up, librarian glasses, and frizzy doo! I love it when she says uh, uh, throughout the report. She should be anchor for CBS. Too bad Scooter gets 30 months for being forgetful, and Paris Hilton gets 3 days for drunk driving. That's justice!
PatriotNews 4 years ago
justice will only be served when they throw cheney in prison and throw away the keys.
talktal 4 years ago
Help me figure this out. Sandy Berger stole classified documents and destroyed them in his office and was fined. Scooter basically told the truth about how Wilson ended up in Niger and he's doing time?
I guess justice depends on which party you support.
schoonero 4 years ago
"Scooter basically told the truth about how Wilson ended up in Niger and he's doing time?"
He DIDN'T tell the truth, which is why he is convicted of PERJURY.
As for Berger i agree that he should get more than just a fine.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago