Andy Irvine ~ Tutorial of 'Reynardine/Johnny Cúig'

[citolero]

Great tune and song, and a good story. It's not a paidushko though, as it's far too slow and clearly in a 3+2 rhythm instead of the 2+3 structure that a paidushko should have.

[pdebee]

@citolero Hi 'Citolero'! :-))

Thank you for your kind comment. You're quite right: the paidushko rhythm is in 5/16 time, with the short beat first. As this is in 5/8 and with the long beat first, I should have called it a 'slowed-down & reversed paidushko'... ;-)) But since there isn't a separate name for that rhythm, I have a tendency of equating '5/8' with 'paidushko'.

For the sake of purity, I shall correct the 'Description' accordingly. Thank you! ;-)

With kind regards;

Patrick.

[citolero]

@pdebee Thanks! I'll see if I can dig out a proper Balkan name for that rhythm, although none springs to mind...

[pdebee]

@citolero 'Bulgarian Folk Dances' (1958/1976) has 'paidushko' as 5/16 in 2-3; no 5/8. Wikipedia has: "(Пайдушко хоро; Paidushko horo, Pajduško horo, Pajduška horo, Payduska horo, Baiduska horo) (2+3; 5/16 or 5/8), Often characterized as a "limping dance", this dance typically involves two footwork patterns, a "step hop" and a "step step". In the southern parts of Bulgaria, Macedonia (all regions) and Greece, the quick-slow pattern is sometimes reversed into a slow-quick patter (3+2)."

Patrick

[citolero]

@pdebee Hmmm, interesting. Never came across one like that with the name paidushko (or any variant of it) in a good 20 years playing Balkan dance music, but then I imagine there's a rather a lot I've missed :)

The funny thing is that until I first read the comments it hadn't even struck me that the song was in five... these rhythms are so familiar to me nowadays.

[pdebee]

@citolero The book 'Bulgarian Folk Dances' [published in 1958 & again in 1976], by Raina Katzarova-Kukudova and Kiril Djenev focused on the dances and is excellent for learning all the rhythms and how they relate to the dances.

Wikipedia is very complete about all the rhythms if you search it using the precise keywords: "Bulgarian dances".

Like you, I love the challenge of learning to play in these great rhythms, especially when I no longer have to count! :-))

Kind regards;

Patrick.

[rchatterley1]

@pdebee thanks for that Patrick. I'll take a look and take the first steps on the road! Like you say, half the fun is in the learning anyhow.. I love my bouzouki! :-)))

[pdebee]

@rchatterley1 You're most welcome! After posting my reply to your initial comment, I noticed you'd already subscribed to 'AndyzFanz'; so, thank you for your vote of confidence. Send me a Personal Message any time you wish to have a private chat about your practice. I tend to focus solely on Andy's technique--enough to occupy a lifetime! ;-D If that's your aspiration also, then I'd be happy to help. I am glad you love your bouzouki! Who made it? What tuning?

With kind regards; :-)))

Patrick.

[rchatterley1]

Having just bought a bouzouki 5 days ago, I'm awe-struck... I guess only another 20-30 years worth of practising and I'll be do this! ..gulp.

[pdebee]

@rchatterley1 There's a lot of truth in your statement! I spent many hours over many years listening to his albums, trying to figure out where the fingers should go! Luckily, the advent of YouTube has added an invaluable visual dimension to our learning. Visit my tribute channel to Andy [at 'AndyzFanz'] for more. In my Uploads here [at 'pdebee'] you can find my own attempts; far from perfect, but the joy of trying is huge! I warmly encourage you to persevere; good luck. ;-))

Patrick.

[lconole]

The Irish bouzouki is such a wonderful instrument - but rarely as lovely as when Andy plays one! If only I could play like that :-) Sensational - and what a gentleman to boot.

[jimmyreturns]

Amazing!

[padraig1971]

Patrick, thanks for sharing this clip and a great story. And Irvine is a legend.

[FBrigdon]

Very nice! Thanks!

[TheManicman11]

Absolutely Fantastic Video , Thanks for sharing Pdebee