Your post exemplifies why Religion is one giant lie. A god that loves you but sends you to an eternity of unimaginable torture? A god that is all powerful but does nothing to save the suffering? An omnipotent being that can't destroy the devil? If you would actually think about what you were saying and not just blindly following some book maybe you would get it.
God doesn't love you, not even a little. Read Psalm 5:5. Christ defeated every type of sickness and death, he proved that the reason there is still suffering is for a purpose. If you'd genuinely think about it, you'd be a Christian.
"God" doesn't love me even though I am his child and in the bible it states multiple times that he loves all of his children? And also the reason there is suffering is for a purpose? You prove nothing by having a generic answer for everything unanswerable. Why did his whole family die in a car crash? Because there is a higher purpose you would say. Actually try to think instead of bullshitting yourself into a state of denial with one sentence answers to everything.
Check out John 15:16, Jesus is clear that we don't choose him, he chooses us. Faith is a gift of God (Eph 2:8), so trusting in him is impossible lest he grants the faith, which is why I'm preaching, because faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word of Christ. (Romans 10:17) A life lived apart from God is pointless, but this point of this creation is to show why God is God, and we are not.
God's plan is only to save certain people, and God does create evil (Isa 45:7), just like the sun creates shadows. Certainly God could have created a different way, but this is the way that he chose, which means it is the best way to answer the mystery of iniquity and show us why he is God and we are not.
He is not seeing how we'll do. He knows how we'll do, see Genesis 6:5, Jeremiah 17:9, Romans 3:11. He is showing us how we'll do. There is no such thing as free-will, we have an absolutely depraved will and God is showing us why we are not God and why sin is deadly. It's a painful way to learn, but God in his infinite goodness chose this way so we know absolutely that it is a perfect plan.
That answer is something called Supralapsarianism. Everything from the beginning of time to now is exactly as God intended. God in his infinite goodness and foreknowledge chose this method to show us why sin is bad. Romans 13:1 says God put Adolf Hitler in position. Until you understand God's hatred of sin it is difficult to understand the Bible, but he is perfectly holy and requires perfection. Sin ultimately killed God on a cross 2000 years ago, this is how deadly sin is.
Quit lying to people. There is not a single verse that says God loves Paperluigi64 or anyone else who is dead in their sins. He has exibited an unconditional loving kindness, but it is far from saying that he is ushy gushy in love with anybody.
I'm an atheist, but i respect every single religion.
But what about the atheists, who deny that there's a god? are we going to hell? Or are we going to be reincarnated (in the buddhist way) or reincarnated to a pig according to the hindus?
It's a really hard question, but in my opinion it's every man for himself, to decide how his/her afterlife is going to be like. If they belive in life after death of course.
And i like the peaceful attemt to convert people, allthough Im still an atheist:)
No one will go to Hell for disbelieving God. They will go to Hell for murder at heart, lust at heart, lying, stealing, blasphemy (see my other video), coveting, disobeying parents, failing to give God one day in seven, and failing to do the right thing. Your beliefs have no bearing on you going to Hell, it is entirely your actions. God paid the penalty on the cross, in order to receive forgiveness he commands repentance and then he will save you. Salvation is of God, not of our beliefs.
I love the controversy of exist or not, but I hate the way that it polarizes the nation. Does faith exist in my world, no. However, I am not trying to recruit the masses into my lil world. I accept your vision of faith, why can't you accept the view of others? What is the point of the fire and brimstone canon? To scare the non-believers into your church? Is that what Jesus would do? Frighteningly, I think you believe it would. Oddballs on the net....
The fire and brimstone cannon is the truth, it is to show us how much God hates sin and sinners. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and Hell is not to scare you into the church, it is to put in your a respect for godliness and a hatred of iniquity.
If God exists, and he HATES sin, then what if a person was full of SIN, does that mean he hates them? You logic is very intelligent, Everyone lies, Lust is because of testosterone in your body that makes you crave sex. So not your fault, back then they did not kno what testosterone was so they just assumed it was evil. If God is all knowing and all powerful, Why is he (supposedly) blessing America? God Bless America? If God exists he shouldnt bother with a rich nation and focus on Africa
God hates the sinner, he hates you for your transgression. You have made yourself an enemy of God through wicked works. Obviously God cares very little for America or Africa, we need to pray for him to open all of our eyes to the truth so that we repent. Don't justify yourself, instead compare yourself to the perfect sinless Son of God who will be your judge on Judgment Day. Pride comes before destruction.
Ok so you are telling me that God hates me? haha im sorry but if God exists who are YOU to tell others what God likes and what God Hates? if God hates me then he must not love his children like the bible says, That is the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard! God loves all his children, but he hates sins...okay thats fine. But what your saying should be considered blasphemy because you dont have any right to tell me what God likes and dislikes and HATES.
Psalm 5:5, 7:11, 11:5 to name a few. Read Nahum 1, then Romans 1-6. The entire Bible says the same thing. It would be foolish for God to hate sin but love the sinner in the same way as it would be foolish for me to hate the bullet but love the assassin. Sin kills things, God hates death and especially the cause of death, check out Revelation 21:8.
does God hate the people who Sin, but for the good of their family? Such as Steal money to provide for their family. Or Kill to protect their family. Does God hate them?
Jesus said, "Woe to you who justify yourself before men! God knows your heart." I don't know if those are damnable sins, so lets not split hairs on them. The last time you had a lustful thought, was it for the good of your family? The last time you blasphemed God's name, was that to feed a starving child?
Not really, I only mentioned those that could fit in a situation like that not those that obviously can't, such as Lust or blasphemywhich you mentioned. I chose ones that could be in such a situation. Such as Murder and Theft.
how is it sufficient? You quote words from Jesus, mention things that I did not say. Why do you Christians do this!? Ignore what I have to say and bring up other things and get stubburn when you dont have a decent answer
How are you so sure that I am damned, How do you know whats God's choice? God works in "mysterious ways" doesnt he? If its so mysterious then how come I have people like you, who swear they known me all my life as if they were God, Jesus or an Angel. The only way you have knowned I have sinned is through test, not through words, Not through actions. You cannot possibly know all the things I have done in life unless you were in fact God. If God exists he obviously doesnt care about us anymore.
The Bible says that all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, that none seek after his righteousness. You are included in that statement, that's how I know. It's like we've all jumped out of an airplane, some of us have parachutes. If you fail to use yours by enjoying the fall in your sin, then you won't perish for not having a parachute, you'll perish because you've transgressed gravity. Don't take my word for it, read Romans 1-6. At the very least count it a lesson in history.
I have seeked and found nothing, If God exists he doesnt care about us. What happened to all the miracles of God in the past? He seemed to have done many before and now there is nothing. You even said: "Obviously God cares very little for America or Africa" Why wouldnt God care about Africa? A huge continent all forgotten by God...how? How do you forget the starving in Ethiopia? How do you forget the Slave children in the mines of Sierra Leone?
...What are you talking about?! Im talking about if God exists why would he ignore they places that needed to be heard? I never said anything about ME seeking God! And where does Sin come into the equation??
This conversation has reached its fruition, the darkness in your life is blinding you. Call out to God to reveal himself to you if truly want to understand the truth, but the answers have been given, this is the mystery of iniquity, God has a perfect plan which is in place to explain the true implications of the law of sin and death.
Once again, no answer, just a lecture. I never said I wanted to know the light. I ask these questions for two purposes. One being I desire an ANSWER which you always fail to give me, and the other being as an outspoken athiest I want to know why do you you people believe these things when there is no proof of such a being exists or has ever existed? I'll bet your not going to even respond with an answer, but with a lecture once again as if you know the meaning of life.
Ask yourself this question, "What kind of proof would prove to me that God exists?" Most atheists have no clue because they don't think about this stuff. Christianity is 99% fact and 1% faith, unlike atheism which is 50% pride, 1% sifted science, and 49% blind faith.
Whoo! Why am I not surprised? Another lecture! :D Oh boy! I love those..anyway Atheism is 100% scientific fact, because unliek your God, We have PROOF of evolution. We have EVIDENCE of the big bang. The only type of proof you horrible Christians have is 1 book. Which is for the most part, historically accurate, BUT there is no proof of the mythic tale of Adam & Eve, also we even found Jesus's bones in Jerusalem which proves your resurrection of Christ is false.
Now your just acting childish, Christians are evil, They have killed more people in the name of God than any other religion...and you people talk about muslims...shame
Hahahahahahaha, quit showing your low I.Q. and lack of research. Atheists have killed more people than any other religion, it's a scientific fact. But that's beyond the point, atheists are evil, Christians are evil, Muslims are evil, everyone is evil, and everyone will face a wrathful and holy God. Are you ready?
Now you're resulting to insults because Im correct? Huh, Well I would like an answer, WHEN HAVE ATHIEST KILLED PEOPLE? Back then Christians killed Athiests or anyone who they sought to be UNHOLY. Christians Have killed many people in the CRUSADES! Christians committed MAS GENOCIDE when they destroyed AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE known as the Aztecs. When In History A VAST AMOUNT of Athiests killed many people? More people have died in the name of God than you can possibly imagine...Name 3
Stalin was Athiest, Hitler was Christian, He even claimed he was doing "God's Work" by killing the jewish. He was raised in a catholic home and admired muslims. and...pot? Do you mean Marijuana? Because I never heard of a historical figure named POT. You still fail. Name more, so far you got 1.
Hahahahahahaha, you're dumber than I ever thought possible. Hitler was just a smarter atheist than you, knowing how to play off of the emotions of the people. If you'd actually research this stuff, you'd know he was an ardent God-hater and atheist. Next three, Lenin, TseTung, Jong-Il. The Bible says that atheists will deliberately forget history, so you're just damning yourself with every omission.
nooooooo Hitler was Christian, YOu just don't want to think such a horrible Dictator like Hitler was a Christian who despised Jews. Lenin did not reign for that long. So he I dont think he even did kill people, sounds to me like your just pulling Communist's names right out of your ass. And even If he did, he couldnt have killed a VAST AMOUNT of people...because such an event would have been covered in history books.
Great question! God hates sin, hates it, and he will punish the originator of sin for eternity because a transgression against an infinite God requires infinite retribution. We're living in the experiment in iniquity right now, Satan asked, "Why am I not God?" God is answering that question right now. He should abandon all of us in our sins, but instead he chose to save a few out of the mire by paying the infinite price himself on the cross.
"and...pot? Do you mean Marijuana? Because I never heard of a historical figure named POT."
I don't believe this! Pol Pot! Cambodian despot. Leader of the Khmer Rouge. Didn't you see "The Killing Fields?"
truthseeker1971 3 years ago
Your post exemplifies why Religion is one giant lie. A god that loves you but sends you to an eternity of unimaginable torture? A god that is all powerful but does nothing to save the suffering? An omnipotent being that can't destroy the devil? If you would actually think about what you were saying and not just blindly following some book maybe you would get it.
graphiccardz 3 years ago 7
God doesn't love you, not even a little. Read Psalm 5:5. Christ defeated every type of sickness and death, he proved that the reason there is still suffering is for a purpose. If you'd genuinely think about it, you'd be a Christian.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
"God" doesn't love me even though I am his child and in the bible it states multiple times that he loves all of his children? And also the reason there is suffering is for a purpose? You prove nothing by having a generic answer for everything unanswerable. Why did his whole family die in a car crash? Because there is a higher purpose you would say. Actually try to think instead of bullshitting yourself into a state of denial with one sentence answers to everything.
graphiccardz 3 years ago
Read John 8:44
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Noworries you are a tool and Graphiccardz just owned you.
mrblonde614 3 years ago
How? I'm owned by the God of the Universe, graphiccardz is owned by the Devil.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
99% fact, 1% faith.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Check out John 15:16, Jesus is clear that we don't choose him, he chooses us. Faith is a gift of God (Eph 2:8), so trusting in him is impossible lest he grants the faith, which is why I'm preaching, because faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word of Christ. (Romans 10:17) A life lived apart from God is pointless, but this point of this creation is to show why God is God, and we are not.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
God's plan is only to save certain people, and God does create evil (Isa 45:7), just like the sun creates shadows. Certainly God could have created a different way, but this is the way that he chose, which means it is the best way to answer the mystery of iniquity and show us why he is God and we are not.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
I grew up Christian buddy, but now Im athiest
paperluigi64 3 years ago
He is not seeing how we'll do. He knows how we'll do, see Genesis 6:5, Jeremiah 17:9, Romans 3:11. He is showing us how we'll do. There is no such thing as free-will, we have an absolutely depraved will and God is showing us why we are not God and why sin is deadly. It's a painful way to learn, but God in his infinite goodness chose this way so we know absolutely that it is a perfect plan.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
That answer is something called Supralapsarianism. Everything from the beginning of time to now is exactly as God intended. God in his infinite goodness and foreknowledge chose this method to show us why sin is bad. Romans 13:1 says God put Adolf Hitler in position. Until you understand God's hatred of sin it is difficult to understand the Bible, but he is perfectly holy and requires perfection. Sin ultimately killed God on a cross 2000 years ago, this is how deadly sin is.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Quit lying to people. There is not a single verse that says God loves Paperluigi64 or anyone else who is dead in their sins. He has exibited an unconditional loving kindness, but it is far from saying that he is ushy gushy in love with anybody.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
I'm an atheist, but i respect every single religion.
But what about the atheists, who deny that there's a god? are we going to hell? Or are we going to be reincarnated (in the buddhist way) or reincarnated to a pig according to the hindus?
It's a really hard question, but in my opinion it's every man for himself, to decide how his/her afterlife is going to be like. If they belive in life after death of course.
And i like the peaceful attemt to convert people, allthough Im still an atheist:)
cowmadness 3 years ago
No one will go to Hell for disbelieving God. They will go to Hell for murder at heart, lust at heart, lying, stealing, blasphemy (see my other video), coveting, disobeying parents, failing to give God one day in seven, and failing to do the right thing. Your beliefs have no bearing on you going to Hell, it is entirely your actions. God paid the penalty on the cross, in order to receive forgiveness he commands repentance and then he will save you. Salvation is of God, not of our beliefs.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
I love the controversy of exist or not, but I hate the way that it polarizes the nation. Does faith exist in my world, no. However, I am not trying to recruit the masses into my lil world. I accept your vision of faith, why can't you accept the view of others? What is the point of the fire and brimstone canon? To scare the non-believers into your church? Is that what Jesus would do? Frighteningly, I think you believe it would. Oddballs on the net....
quixote0 3 years ago
The fire and brimstone cannon is the truth, it is to show us how much God hates sin and sinners. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and Hell is not to scare you into the church, it is to put in your a respect for godliness and a hatred of iniquity.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
If God exists, and he HATES sin, then what if a person was full of SIN, does that mean he hates them? You logic is very intelligent, Everyone lies, Lust is because of testosterone in your body that makes you crave sex. So not your fault, back then they did not kno what testosterone was so they just assumed it was evil. If God is all knowing and all powerful, Why is he (supposedly) blessing America? God Bless America? If God exists he shouldnt bother with a rich nation and focus on Africa
paperluigi64 3 years ago
God hates the sinner, he hates you for your transgression. You have made yourself an enemy of God through wicked works. Obviously God cares very little for America or Africa, we need to pray for him to open all of our eyes to the truth so that we repent. Don't justify yourself, instead compare yourself to the perfect sinless Son of God who will be your judge on Judgment Day. Pride comes before destruction.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Ok so you are telling me that God hates me? haha im sorry but if God exists who are YOU to tell others what God likes and what God Hates? if God hates me then he must not love his children like the bible says, That is the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard! God loves all his children, but he hates sins...okay thats fine. But what your saying should be considered blasphemy because you dont have any right to tell me what God likes and dislikes and HATES.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Psalm 5:5, 7:11, 11:5 to name a few. Read Nahum 1, then Romans 1-6. The entire Bible says the same thing. It would be foolish for God to hate sin but love the sinner in the same way as it would be foolish for me to hate the bullet but love the assassin. Sin kills things, God hates death and especially the cause of death, check out Revelation 21:8.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
does God hate the people who Sin, but for the good of their family? Such as Steal money to provide for their family. Or Kill to protect their family. Does God hate them?
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Jesus said, "Woe to you who justify yourself before men! God knows your heart." I don't know if those are damnable sins, so lets not split hairs on them. The last time you had a lustful thought, was it for the good of your family? The last time you blasphemed God's name, was that to feed a starving child?
NoWorries88 3 years ago
I never said that, I was giving other examples
paperluigi64 3 years ago
My answer is still valid.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Not really, I only mentioned those that could fit in a situation like that not those that obviously can't, such as Lust or blasphemywhich you mentioned. I chose ones that could be in such a situation. Such as Murder and Theft.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Please reread my answer. It is sufficient.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
how is it sufficient? You quote words from Jesus, mention things that I did not say. Why do you Christians do this!? Ignore what I have to say and bring up other things and get stubburn when you dont have a decent answer
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Reread my answer. I said that I didn't know, but that you are condemned despite your attempted justification of your self and others. Sufficient.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
How are you so sure that I am damned, How do you know whats God's choice? God works in "mysterious ways" doesnt he? If its so mysterious then how come I have people like you, who swear they known me all my life as if they were God, Jesus or an Angel. The only way you have knowned I have sinned is through test, not through words, Not through actions. You cannot possibly know all the things I have done in life unless you were in fact God. If God exists he obviously doesnt care about us anymore.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
The Bible says that all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, that none seek after his righteousness. You are included in that statement, that's how I know. It's like we've all jumped out of an airplane, some of us have parachutes. If you fail to use yours by enjoying the fall in your sin, then you won't perish for not having a parachute, you'll perish because you've transgressed gravity. Don't take my word for it, read Romans 1-6. At the very least count it a lesson in history.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
I have seeked and found nothing, If God exists he doesnt care about us. What happened to all the miracles of God in the past? He seemed to have done many before and now there is nothing. You even said: "Obviously God cares very little for America or Africa" Why wouldnt God care about Africa? A huge continent all forgotten by God...how? How do you forget the starving in Ethiopia? How do you forget the Slave children in the mines of Sierra Leone?
paperluigi64 3 years ago
You've sought God like a drug dealer seeks the DEA. God hates sin, remember?
NoWorries88 3 years ago
...What are you talking about?! Im talking about if God exists why would he ignore they places that needed to be heard? I never said anything about ME seeking God! And where does Sin come into the equation??
paperluigi64 3 years ago
This conversation has reached its fruition, the darkness in your life is blinding you. Call out to God to reveal himself to you if truly want to understand the truth, but the answers have been given, this is the mystery of iniquity, God has a perfect plan which is in place to explain the true implications of the law of sin and death.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
If God existed, he would NOT reveal himself before me. *sigh* just like every other Christian in my life...only give me lectures instead of answers.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
You've just proved that you don't want to know the light.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Once again, no answer, just a lecture. I never said I wanted to know the light. I ask these questions for two purposes. One being I desire an ANSWER which you always fail to give me, and the other being as an outspoken athiest I want to know why do you you people believe these things when there is no proof of such a being exists or has ever existed? I'll bet your not going to even respond with an answer, but with a lecture once again as if you know the meaning of life.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Ask yourself this question, "What kind of proof would prove to me that God exists?" Most atheists have no clue because they don't think about this stuff. Christianity is 99% fact and 1% faith, unlike atheism which is 50% pride, 1% sifted science, and 49% blind faith.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Whoo! Why am I not surprised? Another lecture! :D Oh boy! I love those..anyway Atheism is 100% scientific fact, because unliek your God, We have PROOF of evolution. We have EVIDENCE of the big bang. The only type of proof you horrible Christians have is 1 book. Which is for the most part, historically accurate, BUT there is no proof of the mythic tale of Adam & Eve, also we even found Jesus's bones in Jerusalem which proves your resurrection of Christ is false.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, you win for funniest joke on YouTube ever. See my video, "Sex, Nude Girls, War, Evolution, and Jesus Christ."
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Now your just acting childish, Christians are evil, They have killed more people in the name of God than any other religion...and you people talk about muslims...shame
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Hahahahahahaha, quit showing your low I.Q. and lack of research. Atheists have killed more people than any other religion, it's a scientific fact. But that's beyond the point, atheists are evil, Christians are evil, Muslims are evil, everyone is evil, and everyone will face a wrathful and holy God. Are you ready?
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Now you're resulting to insults because Im correct? Huh, Well I would like an answer, WHEN HAVE ATHIEST KILLED PEOPLE? Back then Christians killed Athiests or anyone who they sought to be UNHOLY. Christians Have killed many people in the CRUSADES! Christians committed MAS GENOCIDE when they destroyed AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE known as the Aztecs. When In History A VAST AMOUNT of Athiests killed many people? More people have died in the name of God than you can possibly imagine...Name 3
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Your low I.Q. is showing. Three? Hitler, Stalin, Pot. Want more? Atheism is the most despicable of man's wickedness.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Stalin was Athiest, Hitler was Christian, He even claimed he was doing "God's Work" by killing the jewish. He was raised in a catholic home and admired muslims. and...pot? Do you mean Marijuana? Because I never heard of a historical figure named POT. You still fail. Name more, so far you got 1.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
Hahahahahahaha, you're dumber than I ever thought possible. Hitler was just a smarter atheist than you, knowing how to play off of the emotions of the people. If you'd actually research this stuff, you'd know he was an ardent God-hater and atheist. Next three, Lenin, TseTung, Jong-Il. The Bible says that atheists will deliberately forget history, so you're just damning yourself with every omission.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
nooooooo Hitler was Christian, YOu just don't want to think such a horrible Dictator like Hitler was a Christian who despised Jews. Lenin did not reign for that long. So he I dont think he even did kill people, sounds to me like your just pulling Communist's names right out of your ass. And even If he did, he couldnt have killed a VAST AMOUNT of people...because such an event would have been covered in history books.
paperluigi64 3 years ago
I can't argue with you if you're going to live in fantasy.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Great question! God hates sin, hates it, and he will punish the originator of sin for eternity because a transgression against an infinite God requires infinite retribution. We're living in the experiment in iniquity right now, Satan asked, "Why am I not God?" God is answering that question right now. He should abandon all of us in our sins, but instead he chose to save a few out of the mire by paying the infinite price himself on the cross.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Sounds to me like gods a mighty judgmental bastard. Ill stick my morals he/she or it can stick to theirs.
lwouldliketoknow 3 years ago
He is indeed the righteous judge whose wrath burns everyday.
NoWorries88 3 years ago
Amen! Praise the Lord for boldly sharing your faith!
georgeamarcelo 4 years ago
1 Corinthians 1:18, "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
Keep sharing the Word of God and His message to this lost and dying world. Have a great year in 2008, brother!
OMM06 4 years ago