It's odd that a so called Right-Wing extremist (MUSSOLINI) would use a name and symbol (THE FASCI) that had always been used in Europe before as a Left-Wing syndicalist revolutionary tool.
All Socialistic ideologys mean to destroy the individual. The individual is "Means of production" to be owned and controlled collectively by Communists or Fascists. To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole. Joseph Goebbels.
It is not possible to argue that each individual should sacrifice for the whole of society, and yet expect each individual to know what "society's good" consists of, without having a dictator to tell them.
I'm not sure I agree with fascism being right-wing. It looks like the left wing or Democrats, for the most part, are cooperating with the right wing in instituting fascism. They may squabble and argue over the details, but in the end they pass the legislation that makes it possible. There were many competing parties in Germany's Parliament, yet they gave Hitler everything he needed to implement fascism.
@xander7ful fascism is authoritarian right-wing. it's a reactionary group. when a captialist or corporatist economy starts failing. the big business essentially swallows and controls the government as it did in italy but with communism (in practice not in theory) vice versa is true (the government takes over big business)
@4wacky No, I think it's that most people don't desire immense authority over their lifes, both private and public, controlling their lifes for the sake of the state's perpetual operation and instead of the individually's direct needs.
The idea that fascism = capitalism is farce. Any objective analysis of the fascist economies shows that it is very socialistic. If anything it is what you get when you mix half and half of capitalism and socialism. It is centrist economics. Fascism cannot survive in capitalism, where people have property rights and can engage in voluntary exchange without government intervention. Unregulated internet, books, media, etc. Fascism instructs the "private" sector what to do. That is socialistic.
@DaMaxxy if you could tell me where you get your info abt how corporations and their profits were in fascist italy it would be much appreciated, im not saying your wrong i would justlike to see the evidence for myself. usually when i ask for ppls sources they dnt respond! also i base my opinion on the the manifesto of the fasci of combat and not necessarily the gov of italy. and your rite corporatocracy so much worse! easier to type as well!
@DaMaxxy we have Anarcho-capitalism, its the mortal enemy of fascism and all forms of socialism, it uses many of the same methods and looks very similar to fascism. fascism is where the state takes control of corporations, limiting their profits. anarcho-capitalism is when corporations infiltrate and replace the state to maximize their profits.
@lookatthewholepictur this vid is way off, most of the quotes are from progressives who tried to distance them selfs from it out of guilt because progressives hailed it as the future before hitler. the main thing is that fascism was Italy's national socialism, its only ever existed in italy from the 20's until the late 30's when its was taken over by German form of national socialism, nazism. fascism was radically opposed to free market capitalism, and the exploitation of the lower class.
Foucault's definition at 1:06 is like some of his personal inside's demon that attempts to conquer him. But maybe he's one of those crooked persons some fascism would only do good. Everyone else found his 'fascism' from the outside world.
I hate people who say communism is facsism it is not we need fascism because people dont no whats in there best interest i admit i dont enitrely would you let you 3 year old go play with a gun because he wants to and he thinks its his right
p.s MLK is slim he cheated on his wife that is among the lowest thing a human being can do in my eyes
American Fascists "claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
Democracy is bad, but at least the lesser of any evil. Controlled Fascism has potential, but is just too dangerous to allow near our society. And Communism is simply just complete enslavement to the state. Socialism's not bad, but that's really just democracy again.
@greenpanic6 in that case i assume you are a fascist or a capitalist, or a wealthy person. or maybe just a miss led plebeian manipulated by a capitalist government.
but before you continue believing in that i just want to explain that fascism is not better than communism. fascism is based on hoarding power an an promoting war, communism is about sharing power an promoting peace. an if you want to argue against that then be my guest, but just keep what i have said in mind.
So the right wing is...Evil...Yup that's right! ;D That's what being a conservative is all about! Being evil! Yup! I'm gonna go do some evil things, because thats what Conservatives do!
@FalconKPD I'm not talking about left, or right for that matter, but conservatives and Fascists whom do very evil things indeed. Because it is of course possible to be of the left and a conservative as well. Ex: Southern Democrats in the United States during the 20th century, primarily in the Deep South, who were strictly opposed to racial integration, aka, change. I am merely stating the ideology of strict government control over the public, coupled with nationalism, is very evil.
@FalconKPD Well you see here, there is a slight nuance in the use of government control. Because both Fascist and Communist governments, ideologically speaking, both exercise large governments, but in different forms. A Fascist government utilises authoritarian methods to operate in order to maintain and operate, putting the state above the individual. While a Communist government would use large government as a means to improve people's lives through democracy, as Trotskyism states.
@FalconKPD (Continued) But large government control was also used by American progressives in the early 20th century under the presidencie of T. Roosevelt, Taft, and Woodrow Wilson. People who believed in the idea of reforming their country for the better by using government as a tool; people such as feminists.
@fornss Not that different from Nazism. Get away from the mainstream media news, including National Public Radio Government propaganda. Wake up & think. So we're not running death camps in the USA, or atleast don't yet have an absolute dictator. What other differences do you see between the US & Nazism that you can verify? Alot of people only think of how the nazies exterminated 6 million Jews, countless gypsies & others, but there's a whole lot more to fascism that adds to it's despicableness
@SAEuropeanPatriot centrist? no... thats extreme right wing. the people (represted by big business engulf the government and take it over) the opposite is of communism whereas goverment is bigger than the people and takes it over... national socialism was a centrist name to inflate their "ideology" and gain wide spread support... it was sham... it was fascism with forced socialistic ideals....
@SAEuropeanPatriot centrist? no... thats extreme right wing. the people (represted by big business engulf the government and take it over) the opposite is of communism whereas goverment is bigger than the people and takes it over... national socialism was a centrist name to inflate their "ideology" and gain wide spread support... it was sham... it was fascism with forced socialistic ideals....
@fornss Well remember due to the fact that fascism isn't really a party with clear cut ideals , you can really call whoever you want a fascist , however nazism did do the best out of any political system in some time bring forth tremendous wealth and prosperity to germany and any country linked to it
This is really ridiculous. Why all the pictures of islamic extremist terrorists? Fascism is strongly opposed to religious extremism because it undermines the state. Fascism is secular, and therefor strongly against islamic imperialism.
Most quotes used are lies by pseudo-intellectuals by the way, fascism is an ideology on itself. It's NOT capitalism and certainly NOT national-SOCIALISM.
I hate when people compare fascism to nazism (national socialism). I'm a fascist, not NS! Fascism is NOT equal to NS and NS is NOT equal to Fascism! NS ruined this world and the name of fascism. There is too many differences between both!
P.S. Franco was a "national catholic" nto a fascist.
That is not true. Everyone benefits. Everyone working together for the greater good of the state. They arent working for someone, but for something. That creates equality. And btw, in fascism, the more loyal you are, the higher up you get. Its only those who don't care remain at the bottom.
@orderofrecluse - And who decides who is qualified? Who decides the parameters objectively? All attempts to run government like that have failed. As Winston Churchill said: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Activists are the way foward. Communism, facism, capitalism and more, are all corrup, are all about greed ate the end of the day. Governments are not as we see, there evi, the ones ruling our world is the private bankers ffs. Rockerfeller , Rothschild so on. We have to wake up to this . Fuck the system, Fuck the illuminati. WORLD PEACE! spred the word my friends.
0:47, Adorno, lol. --Frankfurt soft-lenninsts and Trotskyites have to be sneaky because they're full of it. Fascism was serious enough to start a world conflict versus the 'democracies' --the revolutionary Left, the biggest joke of history, sadly.
Thats just the point. We dont "select our political leaders" (just cause we vote)corporations/money people do. We dont "freely bargain" cause free trade is slave trade,it eventually distroys collective bargain and drives down our wages. and evolves to monopoly. We dont really have " free speech" corporations do. These are all good things for corporations,.....but bad for people.
may be very good things for business /large multinational corps, but bad for people. in this sense corporatism is the same as fascism. they both exproriate the labors, acumulated wealth, and wages of working people and ditribute up to the everexpanding oligarcs. this is corporatism
Sorry, but I don't see rightitst concepts of liberty whereby people freely bargain with one another for goods and services; Freedom to speak and select our political leaders; the concept of a limited government; and the rule of law, not rule of rulers.
Far rightists can control and boss just as far leftist. Caesar, Charlemagne, Henry VIII, Bloody Mary, etc., were all rightist - none of them sought the redistribution of wealth or one class; and they all had their soldiers, spies, dungeons, torture, and beheadings. There is a huge difference between "control right" and "libertarian right", just as there is a huge difference between classical liberalism and "control left."
Defination - NAZI 'Nationalist SOCIALIST German Workers Party"; Nazi Ideologist Gregor Strasser "we are enemies, deadly enemies, of today's economic capitalist system"; agenda which included expropriating property from landowners, state run, riridly secular schools, progressive taxation of capital, minimum wage laws, government restrictions on profit making. And while unlike communism, it did not seek outright ownership of the means of production, it did have the state call the shots.
Oops. You forgot to tell what happened to Gregor Strasser. Seems he did represent the left-wing of the Nazi Party, along with Capt. Rohm of the SA. On June 30, 1934, Hitler, to placate the conservative army brass, had Strasser, Rohm and others shot. He then announced that there would be no "second revolution," meaning the Nazis would not push a leftist agenda of seizing private property, redistributing wealth, etc. Shirer has an excellent review of this in "The Rise & Fall of the 3r Reich".
This video seems to construe Fascism as a movement of the political right. While the Nationalism inherent in fascism is much more indicative ot the right, its economic philosophy was far left - which makes some of the quotes from leftists about fascism herein so amusing & hypocritical because both lead to regimes that concentrate vast amounts of power into the hands of a few and enslave and slaughter its citizens.
How was it's economic philosophy far left? When you have no policy to redistribute wealth and draw your funding when coming to power from industrialists, when corporate taxes are low, unions are outlawed, and wages for the lower classes fall off by 25% in five years, how is that left?
Thats because it is far "right " its economic philosophy is "corporatism" to the extreme. When corporate interest determine political outcomes and control the government and military to serve its own pupose of "profit" for themselves, instead of and for .."We The People" by definition is fascism. And this is the result of unfettered "free market" capitalism.
"But the resemblances are inescapable. Both tyrannies relied on a desperate ideology of do-or-die confrontation. Both were obsessed by battle imagery: 'The dictatorships were military metaphors, founded to fight political war.' And despite the rhetoric about a fate-struggle between socialism and capitalism, the two economic systems converged strongly. Stalin's Russia permitted a substantial private sector, while Nazi Germany became rapidly dominated by state direction and state-owned industries.
True, they are both collectivists. But then you have to ask, who favors which system? History shows that the middle classes and wealthy turn to fascism to save themselves from communism: low taxes, still can hold private property, extreme nationalism with fanatical patriotism, and in the Nazi system, racism of lily whites over people of color. Unlike commies, fasicsts have allowed Christians to worship, provided they do not criticize the leader & movement. Working class looked to commies.
Communists also killed peasants and industrial workers in the "Red Terror". During the suppression of the Tambov Rebellion, estimates suggest that around 100,000 peasant rebels and their families were imprisoned or deported and perhaps 15,000 executed.
Lenin was concerned about the tense situation regarding workers in the Ural region. On 29 January 1920, he sent a telegram to Vladimir Smirnov stating "I am surprised that you are taking the matter so lightly, and are not immediately executing large numbers of strikers for the crime of sabotage." It didnt take long for the peasants that gave the needed muscle for the revolution to realize they had been lied to and used.
True. But Lenin also did not deal with industrialists by keeping their taxes low, & he did not set up a party labor organization which actually favored management, as another dictator did. He did not run around with the leaders of the Protestant and Catholic church and sign concordats with the Vatican, hardly a liberal or left-leaning organization. He believed in taking private property and redistributing wealth, a classless society, and a world w/o national borders, opposite of A.H.
Nazi Germany was a corporate industrialists' wet dream. No wonder Henry Ford, Lindbergh and Prescott Bush said nice things about the "new Germany." No wonder American liberals (union people, socialists, commies, students, teachers, etc.) volunteered by the thousands to fight fascism during Spain's Civil War of 1936-39, while Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church threw their support to Franco &, as Sultzburger put it in his history of WWII, his CONSERVATIVE generals.
Henry Ford? Well he was also admired by Stalin and Lenin. 1929 the Soviet Union signed an agreement with the Ford Motor Company. Under its terms, the Soviets agreed to purchase $13 million worth of automobiles and parts, while Ford agreed to give technical assistance until 1938 to construct an integrated automobile-manufacturing plant at Nizhny Novgorod.
Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.
The Anti-Defamation League. A Jewish organization no less.
Both Ford and Lindbergh were awarded the "Cross of the German Eagle" by Hitler's number 2 man, Reichmarshall Herman Goering, in the late 1930s. Let's face it....many bigwigs dealt with the Nazis, including many American companies, some even after 1941. The Nazis never worked for egalitarianism or equality, never redistributed wealth, etc. They played footsie with the church, and were seen by rightists worldwide as a bulwark protecting Europe against atheistic bolshevism.
The working class ended up in worse conditions under Communism then they did with Capitalism. After the Bolshevik revolution many rejected the communist rule and a peasant revolt led to an all-out civil war. Lenin saw the need for a crackdown that history calls The Red Terror. An estimated 9 million people died under Lenins iron fist. Furthermore, socialist ideology led to collective farming policies and the seizure of crops that caused a famine leading to over 10 million pointless deaths.
Yeah, that only proves that they often used strong arm tactics, so what? Hitler APPEALED TO THE GERMAN BURGHER CLASS AND UP...that is, the middle, upper middle, and wealthy. Those are not the types that would favor a leftist agenda, esp. when their money was involved. I don't know how many times I've heard conservatives right here in the US say, "What we need for about 5 years is a strong man to straighten this country out"...same thing the Germans said around 1932-33, & they found one!
Why is it, then, that leftist the world over have always hated fascism? Why did noted leftwinger Charlie Chaplin make a movie mocking Hitler, when we all know he had socialist tendencies? Why did 1930s liberal folk singer Woody Guthrie have "This Guitar Kills Fascists" painted on the side of his guitar? Why the Abe Lincoln Brigade, and other international brigades of lefties from the US & everywhere, rush in to Spain to fight Franco, Hitler, and the rise of fascism, if they LOVED it so much?
From the days of Marx there were innumerable splits in the extreme Leftist movement but two of the most significant occurred around the time of the Bolshevik revolution when in Russia the Bolsheviks themselves split into Leninists and Trotskyites and when in Italy Mussolini left Italy's major Marxist party to found the "Fascists". It split between the Internationalists and the nationalists with Lenin having a foot in both camps. Any idea that a nationalist cannot be a Leftist is pure fiction.
Yeah, and any idea that the Nazi camp of fascism is" leftist" is pure fiction also. Rightists, in Europe and Latin America, have pushed many times for a strong central gov't. to protect a race, religion, a traditional "way of life," etc. Yes, there were some leftists ideas in early Italian fascism, but Hitler ignored the 25 Points, & Nazism was a different animal altogether.
Since you've read about the Spanish Civil War. I'm guessing you know that the Communists and anarchists spent more time fighting each other than fighting Franco. George Orwell volunteered to fight on the leftist side, but his experiences on the front led to his disillusionment with Marxism and to his later authorship of his two classic books debunking that system, "Animal Farm" and "1984."
I know that the communists appealed to people who were anti-religion and left-leaning, and the fascists were supported big time by the Catholic Church & "traditionalists". I had a teacher in high school (very conservative) who had lived with her husband for several years in fascist Spain. She always spoke very highly of Franco, & how she detested communism. I also know that in 1957 Wm. F. Buckley came back from Spain & said some mighty nice things about the regime in the "Nat. Review."
Franco was a supporter of the Catholic Church and fought with Leftists that were exterminating Catholics. Hitler on the other hand did not. He killed as many as a thousand priests and nuns in Poland alone. A Hitler Youth marching song : We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel, Away with incense and Holy Water, The Church can go hang for all we care, The Swastika brings salvation on Earth.
Franco never fought WITH leftist! Period. Why would he fight with people who were killing Catholics? Your sources? As to Hitler and the church, I could find just as many quotes from A.H. in support of the church (ex: "By resisting the Jews, I Fight for the Lord" which became an SA battle cry) as you can find against. Remember, after the war it was the Vatican "rat lines" whereby priest & monks helped Nazis escape to Latin Am. Pope Pius XII was even known by many as "Hitler's Pope."
"Hitler's Pope." by John Cornwell has ten years later retracted many of this claims.
I would now argue, in the light of the debates and evidence following 'Hitler's Pope', that Pius XII had so little scope of action that it is impossible to judge the motives for his silence during the war, while Rome was under the heel of Mussolini and later occupied by the Germans." John Cornwell.
"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Yeah. Just google the words Hitler and religious quotes. As I said, you can find just as many of him being supportive of religion, esp. Catholicism, as his being against. It's no wonder, though, in Germany, the land of Luther, that an anti-semite would have appealed to people during times of crisis. Google the words Martin Luther & Jews....that man hated Jews as much as A.H.
In Poland, the Nazis murdered over 2500 monks and priests while even more were sent to concentration camps. The Priester-Block (priests barracks) the Dachau concentration camp lists 2600 Roman Catholic priests. 108 Blessed Polish Martyrs were Roman Catholics from Poland killed during World War II by the Nazis. Pope Pius and the Catholic Church were responsible for saving more Jews from Nazi persecution than any other person or institution. Some Israeli scholars estimate that as many as 860,000.
Many courageous Christians, both Protestant and Catholic, stood up to the Nazis, even risking their lives to help Jews. Still, in a country like Germany with its 65 million people, the vast majority of people attended their Lutheran & Catholic services, then left church & enthusiastically hailed their Fuerher. Anti-semitism has always been a problem within Christianity, though in recent years Christians have appeared to own up to the fact & have worked for better relations with Jews.
True, and as he volunteered to fight on the LEFTIST SIDE, he was volunteering to fight the rightist side. I thing Orwell, who considered himself a socialist (which can mean many things to many people) was writing against fascism in his books more so than communism...not sure, but of course, they both use the same METHODS, so it's reasonable to assume he could have been writing against both, despite their big differences.
Yeah, and I'm sure Henry laughed all the way to the bank. Remember, this is the same man who had been somewhat liberal before the First World War ($5 day for workers), but by the 1930s was sending out Harry Bennett and his goons to beat up union organizers. Ford would have sold cars to Satan if Old Scratch's bank account could have afforded it.
Yet these Communists before the cold war admired American industrialists.
American efficiency is that indomitable force which neither knows nor recognizes obstacles; which continues on a task once started until it is finished, even if it is a minor task; and without which serious constructive work is impossible . . . The combination of the Russian revolutionary sweep with American efficiency is the essence of Leninism. Joesph Stalin
And this has what to do with fascism being on the right or left? In Reid's book "The Fall of Berlin," he cites American businessmen and their admiration for the Germany they saw in the mid-1930s, a country with "no unions, no commies, no agitators."
In Central Europe only Germans, Hungarians, and Poles counted as bearers of progress. The rest must go. The chief mission of all other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Friedrich Engels
Corporate socialism? If by that you mean a military-industrial-gov't triangle that kept taxes LOW on corporations and the wealthy, that outlawed unions & then set up a "Labor Front" organization which FAVORED MANAGEMENT, that NEVER worked to redistribute wealth, and a regime that was ADORED by the middle class & up, then, yes, corporate socialism.
Fascism = Nazionalizing industry at dismay of free market
Fascism = targeted tax redistributation to the State to subsidize Corporations married to the state "such as many of Al Gore's
Fascism = Nazionalizing healthcare as Hitler did and taking the responsibilty of the Corporate oligarthy to include in salary/compensation and forcing it on the tax payer
Fascists shoot progressives, liberals, socialists, communists, and, yes, many conservatives too. It is a form of gov't favored by the large landowners and industrialists who fear encroaching bolshevism. It does NOT redistribute wealth or force equality on people at the point of a gun. It has even been favored by the church. Instead of a worker's socialist paradise, most fascist countries fit the bill as a "Military-Industrial-Government Triangle." Taxes were low under Hitler.
"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled.
Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."
"In the background, to be sure, there lurked the terror of the Gestapo & the fear of the concentration camp for those who got out of line or who had been Communists or SOCIALISTS or TOO LIBERAL or too pacifist, or who were Jews." - William Shirer, "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," p. 231, describing the Germany of 1934. While there may have been a few leftwing eco. elements in the Third Reich (just as there were in, say, the Nixon adm.), most of their beliefs were on the far right.
It is obvious what the fraudulent issue of fascism versus communism accomplishes: it sets up, as opposites, two variants of the same political system; it eliminates the possibility of considering capitalism; it switches the choice of Freedom or dictatorship? into Which kind of dictatorship?—thus establishing dictatorship as an inevitable fact and offering only a choice of rulers. Extremism, or The Art of Smearing,
True, but who benefits from a fascist dictatorship? Why do the wealthy capitalists, large landowners, hierarchy of the church, etc., favor fascism? Interesting, the commies have always had to put up walls to keep people inside areas they control...but other than Jews, there was no mass exodus from Germany...Hitler was very popular with the middle classes AND UP. Most Germans wholeheartedly approved of the Third Reich...it did not preach socialistic equality, but rather their superiority.
Who benefits from a fascist dictatorship? In the long run only those at top of the fascist party. Capitalists? Only if they produce for the state and in the manner they are told to produce. Christians? In the end Hitler killed many of them as well. Are Jews safer in the Communist state? Read about the Night of the Murdered Poets or The Great Purge. Stalin said "The good workers at the factory should be given clubs so they can beat the hell out of those Jews." "every Jew is a potential spy."
Ha! Hitler was ADORED by industrialists - they weren't forced to go to Berlin, they RAN to get lucrative military contracts...taxes were low, unions banned, they cleaned house. Recently, several studies of that time have shown just how popular the Nazi regime was with the average German. Christians? Yeah, they killed a lot....got help from a lot too, esp. at end of war with Vatican pipelines to S. America. Jews have been hated in just about every society since the beginning of time.
Hitler setup the Labour Front. Both employers and employees joined it. According to the National Labour Law of January 20, 1934, the state would exert direct influence and control over all business employing more than twenty persons. In other words, both employers and employees were put under the control of the government. When faced with only the choice of Communism or Fascism you may be forced to side with the one that seems less likely to exterminate you.
Read Braun's book, "The German Eco. in the 20 Century"...you'll see how the Labour Front actually FAVORED MANAGEMENT....wages for the lower classes fell by up to 25% between 1933-38, and taxes were reduced on wealthy & big business. The Nazis shot people who favored anything like redistribution of wealth. Read Shirer, Toland, Bullock...these books have been in print for 40-50 plus years, still stand the test of time. Hitler hated the left, equality in economics, etc.
Yet the Nazis removed the bourgeois completely from control. Those entrepreneurs who were neither Jewish nor suspect of liberal and pacifist leanings retained their positions in the economic structure. But they were virtually merely salaried civil servants bound to comply unconditionally with the orders of their superiors, the bureaucrats of the Reich and the Nazi party.
von Mises? Ha, that institute thinks it's socialism when the town council decides to put up a stop sign at the corner of Maple and Elm. You might try reading some real history. Oh, and from "The Fall of Berlin," by Read & Fisher, describing American businessmen & their views on the Reich in 1936, p. 16: "They liked it...the streets were clean & peaceful. Law & order. No strikes, no trouble-making unions. No agitators. No commies." It was many things....leftwing it weren't!
Ludwig Von Mises was one of the most well known and respected economists of the 20th century. The quote who made from 'The Fall of Berlin" could describe any Communist county. Except of course the No commies part.
"the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers' party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the fuhrer."
True. But just as you said that the quote from "The Fall of Berlin" could describe any Communist country, the description of the NSDAP describes a RIGHTWING DICATATORSHIP,
Please refrence the song - it's not too often that such a cheery toe-tapper about fascism and the Nazis comes along. Good job!
possums1010 1 week ago
It's neither right wing nor left wing. Right now, in the United States, it's both parties/wings working together to implement it one law at a time.
xander7ful 1 week ago in playlist Fascism
It's odd that a so called Right-Wing extremist (MUSSOLINI) would use a name and symbol (THE FASCI) that had always been used in Europe before as a Left-Wing syndicalist revolutionary tool.
willmickel71 4 weeks ago
@willmickel71 Fascism Is not Right Wing or Left Wing movement its a third position .
NeWorldFail 2 weeks ago
@NeWorldFail I'm fine with that. Fascism has no place sitting next to Laissez-faire Capitalism on some political spectrum.
willmickel71 1 week ago
All Socialistic ideologys mean to destroy the individual. The individual is "Means of production" to be owned and controlled collectively by Communists or Fascists. To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole. Joseph Goebbels.
willmickel71 2 months ago 2
It is not possible to argue that each individual should sacrifice for the whole of society, and yet expect each individual to know what "society's good" consists of, without having a dictator to tell them.
willmickel71 2 months ago 2
I'm not sure I agree with fascism being right-wing. It looks like the left wing or Democrats, for the most part, are cooperating with the right wing in instituting fascism. They may squabble and argue over the details, but in the end they pass the legislation that makes it possible. There were many competing parties in Germany's Parliament, yet they gave Hitler everything he needed to implement fascism.
xander7ful 2 months ago
@xander7ful fascism is authoritarian right-wing. it's a reactionary group. when a captialist or corporatist economy starts failing. the big business essentially swallows and controls the government as it did in italy but with communism (in practice not in theory) vice versa is true (the government takes over big business)
gonzopoet00 1 month ago
Expansionism,militarism,extreme right-wing,ethno-centrism (xenophobia,anti-minority,anti-immigrant,extreme nationalism,discrimination,racism),assimilation,anti-Semitism,Islamophobia,homophobia,conservatism,religious extremism,religious fanaticism, traditionalism,anti-secular,anti-democracy,anti-parliamentary,dictatorship,totalitarianism, excessive centralization,anti-labor,anti-liberal thinking,anti-internationalist,Islamist,authoritarian corporatism and the dictatorship of capital = FASCISM
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SnazzyService 8 months ago
hitler is the one who fucked up fascism for everyone>:(
4wacky 9 months ago 2
@4wacky No, I think it's that most people don't desire immense authority over their lifes, both private and public, controlling their lifes for the sake of the state's perpetual operation and instead of the individually's direct needs.
Ariminua 8 months ago
Not all fascist are nazis! im a strong fascist and i completely go against nazism and racism! i hate the intolerance of people to fascism
4wacky 9 months ago
Great choice of music - from Mel Brook's 'To Be or Not to Be' - spread it around and make Nazis cross.
kitabwalli 10 months ago
Au contraire, nazism is but one sub-species of fascism. Thus it is possible for peoples targeted by the Nazis such as Jews and Roma to be fascists.
kitabwalli 10 months ago
The multinational corporations are our composite dictator and they strive to create a New World Order one world government.
DickWhittington1000 11 months ago
watch?v=Le6t5c4hyz8 What is Free Market Fascism?
dimaniak 11 months ago
it doesnt fit with the vid at all
djsvchost 1 year ago
the music sucks..........
djsvchost 1 year ago
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Fascism is fuckin evil. abolish the federal reserve act.
bozzi90 1 year ago
Fascism is in the middle of left and right
iakodu 1 year ago
@iakodu wow.....
natuankur 1 year ago
@iakodu Actually that would be democracy. Communism and Fascism are right next to each other and on the far end of the board we have anarchy.
taberr5 1 year ago
Obviously the guy who created this video has no idea what Fascism is. It looks like a ten year old's history project.
Reazzurro90 1 year ago
@Reazzurro90 hahaah
LeninGagaFan 1 year ago
The idea that fascism = capitalism is farce. Any objective analysis of the fascist economies shows that it is very socialistic. If anything it is what you get when you mix half and half of capitalism and socialism. It is centrist economics. Fascism cannot survive in capitalism, where people have property rights and can engage in voluntary exchange without government intervention. Unregulated internet, books, media, etc. Fascism instructs the "private" sector what to do. That is socialistic.
67shafar 1 year ago
@67shafar True. Fascism is normally called "The 3rd Position". Meaning it's against Communism AND Capitalism.
MasterAdam100 1 year ago
this is such a stupid video.... no facts...
itaman13 1 year ago
Oh god most of these pictures don't even make sense.
Not to mention there is a major difference between Fascism and National Socialism.
kill3456 1 year ago
fascism depends on the leader and the country. Most point at hitler and say "thats fascism"
lilwayneisgarbage09 1 year ago
what is this song called?
sandwich7587 1 year ago
@sandwich7587 the song is called: TO BE OR NOT TO BE. (THE HITLER RAP).
ARTIST: film maker -- MELL BROOKS (the dude who made the funny movies in the 70's & 80's.)
combattaskforce 1 year ago
@DaMaxxy if you could tell me where you get your info abt how corporations and their profits were in fascist italy it would be much appreciated, im not saying your wrong i would justlike to see the evidence for myself. usually when i ask for ppls sources they dnt respond! also i base my opinion on the the manifesto of the fasci of combat and not necessarily the gov of italy. and your rite corporatocracy so much worse! easier to type as well!
thewaterwillcome 1 year ago
@DaMaxxy we have Anarcho-capitalism, its the mortal enemy of fascism and all forms of socialism, it uses many of the same methods and looks very similar to fascism. fascism is where the state takes control of corporations, limiting their profits. anarcho-capitalism is when corporations infiltrate and replace the state to maximize their profits.
thewaterwillcome 1 year ago
God dam, why cant I just find a video explaining facism without propagonda :(
lookatthewholepictur 1 year ago
@lookatthewholepictur this vid is way off, most of the quotes are from progressives who tried to distance them selfs from it out of guilt because progressives hailed it as the future before hitler. the main thing is that fascism was Italy's national socialism, its only ever existed in italy from the 20's until the late 30's when its was taken over by German form of national socialism, nazism. fascism was radically opposed to free market capitalism, and the exploitation of the lower class.
thewaterwillcome 1 year ago
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Are you Japanese???
Hosea22 1 year ago
Foucault's definition at 1:06 is like some of his personal inside's demon that attempts to conquer him. But maybe he's one of those crooked persons some fascism would only do good. Everyone else found his 'fascism' from the outside world.
JapaninArmeija 1 year ago
I hate people who say communism is facsism it is not we need fascism because people dont no whats in there best interest i admit i dont enitrely would you let you 3 year old go play with a gun because he wants to and he thinks its his right
p.s MLK is slim he cheated on his wife that is among the lowest thing a human being can do in my eyes
Eldernesh 1 year ago
American Fascists "claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
-Vice President Henry A. Wallace 1944
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
I think Fascism is better then Communism.
JosephStalin11 1 year ago
also ppl need ot know that Fascist and NAZI's are 2 different things
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
I do favor Democracy,but if I had to choose I would choose the type of Government in the Book Star Ship Troopers. it's a type of Fascist-Democracy.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
Democracy is bad, but at least the lesser of any evil. Controlled Fascism has potential, but is just too dangerous to allow near our society. And Communism is simply just complete enslavement to the state. Socialism's not bad, but that's really just democracy again.
MyDormantSoul 1 year ago
seriously why the fuck did my parents move to America when I was 2 years old? I still wanna be in England =(
OrinjFlames24 1 year ago
Might I ask the name of the song? Its truly unprecedented.
Mauser9513 1 year ago
@Mauser9513 I'm pretty sure the song is "To Be Or Not To Be" and is performed by Mel Brooks from the movie of the same name.
JayElsmere 1 year ago
What song was that?
redfoxbennaton 1 year ago
i like facism it's better than communism
greenpanic6 1 year ago
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@greenpanic6 If you like fascism then perhaps you should first learn how to spell the word.
MrJefferson1969 1 year ago
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@greenpanic6 If you like fascism then perhaps you should first learn how to spell the word.
MrJefferson1969 1 year ago
@greenpanic6 in that case i assume you are a fascist or a capitalist, or a wealthy person. or maybe just a miss led plebeian manipulated by a capitalist government.
but before you continue believing in that i just want to explain that fascism is not better than communism. fascism is based on hoarding power an an promoting war, communism is about sharing power an promoting peace. an if you want to argue against that then be my guest, but just keep what i have said in mind.
escottproductions 1 year ago
i like facism it's better than communism
greenpanic6 1 year ago
Yeah.. Fuck Fascism.. Long Live Communism! XD
oxonthewall 1 year ago
MEL BROOKES
raffytaffy2 2 years ago
this is the world
yocopocopoco 2 years ago
So the right wing is...Evil...Yup that's right! ;D That's what being a conservative is all about! Being evil! Yup! I'm gonna go do some evil things, because thats what Conservatives do!
FalconKPD 2 years ago 6
@FalconKPD
If you are emotionally attached to either left or right wing then you have already trapped yourself in political illiteracy.
Ryukikon 8 months ago
@FalconKPD That would be funny really if you were being sarcastic... but sadly you're not.
Ariminua 8 months ago
@Ariminua I am being sarcastic.
FalconKPD 8 months ago
@FalconKPD No you're clearly not cos' Fascists and conservatives do clearly evil things in the world.
Ariminua 8 months ago
@Ariminua And the left doesn't?
FalconKPD 8 months ago
@FalconKPD I'm not talking about left, or right for that matter, but conservatives and Fascists whom do very evil things indeed. Because it is of course possible to be of the left and a conservative as well. Ex: Southern Democrats in the United States during the 20th century, primarily in the Deep South, who were strictly opposed to racial integration, aka, change. I am merely stating the ideology of strict government control over the public, coupled with nationalism, is very evil.
Ariminua 8 months ago
@Ariminua I'm no fascist, but I am conservative. Government control IS evil as well, so I agree with you in that aspect.
FalconKPD 8 months ago
@FalconKPD Well you see here, there is a slight nuance in the use of government control. Because both Fascist and Communist governments, ideologically speaking, both exercise large governments, but in different forms. A Fascist government utilises authoritarian methods to operate in order to maintain and operate, putting the state above the individual. While a Communist government would use large government as a means to improve people's lives through democracy, as Trotskyism states.
Ariminua 8 months ago
@FalconKPD (Continued) But large government control was also used by American progressives in the early 20th century under the presidencie of T. Roosevelt, Taft, and Woodrow Wilson. People who believed in the idea of reforming their country for the better by using government as a tool; people such as feminists.
Ariminua 8 months ago
whats a nazism and whats a fascim coz hitler was those two so how can that be?
20peru 2 years ago
Nazism is widely regarded as a form of fascism, though they are very different.
fornss 2 years ago 8
@fornss Quite
TheAranethon 11 months ago
@fornss Not that different from Nazism. Get away from the mainstream media news, including National Public Radio Government propaganda. Wake up & think. So we're not running death camps in the USA, or atleast don't yet have an absolute dictator. What other differences do you see between the US & Nazism that you can verify? Alot of people only think of how the nazies exterminated 6 million Jews, countless gypsies & others, but there's a whole lot more to fascism that adds to it's despicableness
DickWhittington1000 11 months ago
@fornss
You can consider Fascism as Third-Position Right, and Nazism as Third-Position Left
Every TP ideology can be more left or right.
Fascism tried to be religious, conserative in some way (and anti-conservative the same time) with some private property puts him more to right
Nazism was anti-church, anti-conservtive, and private property was a fiction, because it was re-collored socialist economy, puts him more to left
AMEN xd
NationalSyndycalism 9 months ago
@NationalSyndycalism Wrong fascism is the far right
Hyper neocon
FGalaxie 4 months ago
@FGalaxie, that is Trotskyist propaganda. Italian Fascism and German National Socialism are centrist.
SAEuropeanPatriot 2 months ago
@SAEuropeanPatriot centrist? no... thats extreme right wing. the people (represted by big business engulf the government and take it over) the opposite is of communism whereas goverment is bigger than the people and takes it over... national socialism was a centrist name to inflate their "ideology" and gain wide spread support... it was sham... it was fascism with forced socialistic ideals....
gonzopoet00 1 month ago
@gonzopoet00 You sound like a communist.
SAEuropeanPatriot 1 month ago
@gonzopoet00 it combines right and left wings. it best define as state control captialism.
spark300c 1 month ago
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@SAEuropeanPatriot centrist? no... thats extreme right wing. the people (represted by big business engulf the government and take it over) the opposite is of communism whereas goverment is bigger than the people and takes it over... national socialism was a centrist name to inflate their "ideology" and gain wide spread support... it was sham... it was fascism with forced socialistic ideals....
gonzopoet00 1 month ago
@fornss Well remember due to the fact that fascism isn't really a party with clear cut ideals , you can really call whoever you want a fascist , however nazism did do the best out of any political system in some time bring forth tremendous wealth and prosperity to germany and any country linked to it
codenamedwarfboy1 4 months ago
Fascism isn't Corporatism. Any retard that reads would know this.
Xtragicfever 2 years ago
Yeah. The state controls the corporations, not the other way around.
Derpatyderp 2 years ago 2
What is Fascism?
it is the best form of government
ChidoriAnbu 2 years ago 3
@ChidoriAnbu cheers
SatanicGaia 1 year ago
This is really ridiculous. Why all the pictures of islamic extremist terrorists? Fascism is strongly opposed to religious extremism because it undermines the state. Fascism is secular, and therefor strongly against islamic imperialism.
Most quotes used are lies by pseudo-intellectuals by the way, fascism is an ideology on itself. It's NOT capitalism and certainly NOT national-SOCIALISM.
liquid0celot 2 years ago
I hate when people compare fascism to nazism (national socialism). I'm a fascist, not NS! Fascism is NOT equal to NS and NS is NOT equal to Fascism! NS ruined this world and the name of fascism. There is too many differences between both!
P.S. Franco was a "national catholic" nto a fascist.
0masakra0 2 years ago 3
@0masakra0 I know how you feel mate. I too am a fascist. Its annoying you get caslled racist, German supremacist, white nationalist and other things.
All i can say is hang in there and just support the politcal actors that will bring the world closer to what we want.
Good Luck
fp470 2 years ago 3
@fp470 Good luck with that
IamTheRealSolidSnerk 2 years ago
I am also a fascist.
Derpatyderp 2 years ago
@0masakra0 How on earth could you be a fascist??? The only people who benefit from fascism are those on top. Are you a dictator or a CEO?
marisaml77 2 years ago
That is not true. Everyone benefits. Everyone working together for the greater good of the state. They arent working for someone, but for something. That creates equality. And btw, in fascism, the more loyal you are, the higher up you get. Its only those who don't care remain at the bottom.
Derpatyderp 2 years ago 3
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orderofrecluse 2 years ago 10
Hey guy, do you like fish sticks?
IamTheRealSolidSnerk 2 years ago
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orderofrecluse 2 years ago 2
@IamTheRealSolidSnerk ROFL!....classic.
JayElsmere 1 year ago
@orderofrecluse Do you like to stick them in your mouth?
IamTheRealSolidSnerk 2 years ago
@orderofrecluse - Sure. Let's start with removing your freedom of expression and right to vote. Deal? Do you feel Liberty refreshed?
lehtorja 1 year ago
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orderofrecluse 1 year ago
@orderofrecluse - And who decides who is qualified? Who decides the parameters objectively? All attempts to run government like that have failed. As Winston Churchill said: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
lehtorja 1 year ago
@orderofrecluse LOL!
sandwich7587 1 year ago
at 1:49 are the children an obama youth group
omfganime1 2 years ago
Activists are the way foward. Communism, facism, capitalism and more, are all corrup, are all about greed ate the end of the day. Governments are not as we see, there evi, the ones ruling our world is the private bankers ffs. Rockerfeller , Rothschild so on. We have to wake up to this . Fuck the system, Fuck the illuminati. WORLD PEACE! spred the word my friends.
bigjellygiraffe 2 years ago
Are you an anarchist?
March3Yahoo 2 years ago
0:47, Adorno, lol. --Frankfurt soft-lenninsts and Trotskyites have to be sneaky because they're full of it. Fascism was serious enough to start a world conflict versus the 'democracies' --the revolutionary Left, the biggest joke of history, sadly.
barrywinehousexp 2 years ago
Thats just the point. We dont "select our political leaders" (just cause we vote)corporations/money people do. We dont "freely bargain" cause free trade is slave trade,it eventually distroys collective bargain and drives down our wages. and evolves to monopoly. We dont really have " free speech" corporations do. These are all good things for corporations,.....but bad for people.
noybyah 2 years ago
may be very good things for business /large multinational corps, but bad for people. in this sense corporatism is the same as fascism. they both exproriate the labors, acumulated wealth, and wages of working people and ditribute up to the everexpanding oligarcs. this is corporatism
noybyah 2 years ago
Sorry, but I don't see rightitst concepts of liberty whereby people freely bargain with one another for goods and services; Freedom to speak and select our political leaders; the concept of a limited government; and the rule of law, not rule of rulers.
jermbrid99 2 years ago
Far rightists can control and boss just as far leftist. Caesar, Charlemagne, Henry VIII, Bloody Mary, etc., were all rightist - none of them sought the redistribution of wealth or one class; and they all had their soldiers, spies, dungeons, torture, and beheadings. There is a huge difference between "control right" and "libertarian right", just as there is a huge difference between classical liberalism and "control left."
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Defination - NAZI 'Nationalist SOCIALIST German Workers Party"; Nazi Ideologist Gregor Strasser "we are enemies, deadly enemies, of today's economic capitalist system"; agenda which included expropriating property from landowners, state run, riridly secular schools, progressive taxation of capital, minimum wage laws, government restrictions on profit making. And while unlike communism, it did not seek outright ownership of the means of production, it did have the state call the shots.
jermbrid99 2 years ago
Oops. You forgot to tell what happened to Gregor Strasser. Seems he did represent the left-wing of the Nazi Party, along with Capt. Rohm of the SA. On June 30, 1934, Hitler, to placate the conservative army brass, had Strasser, Rohm and others shot. He then announced that there would be no "second revolution," meaning the Nazis would not push a leftist agenda of seizing private property, redistributing wealth, etc. Shirer has an excellent review of this in "The Rise & Fall of the 3r Reich".
ciraldofan 2 years ago
This video seems to construe Fascism as a movement of the political right. While the Nationalism inherent in fascism is much more indicative ot the right, its economic philosophy was far left - which makes some of the quotes from leftists about fascism herein so amusing & hypocritical because both lead to regimes that concentrate vast amounts of power into the hands of a few and enslave and slaughter its citizens.
jermbrid99 2 years ago
How was it's economic philosophy far left? When you have no policy to redistribute wealth and draw your funding when coming to power from industrialists, when corporate taxes are low, unions are outlawed, and wages for the lower classes fall off by 25% in five years, how is that left?
ciraldofan 2 years ago
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noybyah 2 years ago
Thats because it is far "right " its economic philosophy is "corporatism" to the extreme. When corporate interest determine political outcomes and control the government and military to serve its own pupose of "profit" for themselves, instead of and for .."We The People" by definition is fascism. And this is the result of unfettered "free market" capitalism.
noybyah 2 years ago
Bush ruined the country completely and Obama is just making it worse.
Luigi84289 2 years ago
"But the resemblances are inescapable. Both tyrannies relied on a desperate ideology of do-or-die confrontation. Both were obsessed by battle imagery: 'The dictatorships were military metaphors, founded to fight political war.' And despite the rhetoric about a fate-struggle between socialism and capitalism, the two economic systems converged strongly. Stalin's Russia permitted a substantial private sector, while Nazi Germany became rapidly dominated by state direction and state-owned industries.
willmickel71 2 years ago
True, they are both collectivists. But then you have to ask, who favors which system? History shows that the middle classes and wealthy turn to fascism to save themselves from communism: low taxes, still can hold private property, extreme nationalism with fanatical patriotism, and in the Nazi system, racism of lily whites over people of color. Unlike commies, fasicsts have allowed Christians to worship, provided they do not criticize the leader & movement. Working class looked to commies.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Communists also killed peasants and industrial workers in the "Red Terror". During the suppression of the Tambov Rebellion, estimates suggest that around 100,000 peasant rebels and their families were imprisoned or deported and perhaps 15,000 executed.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Lenin was concerned about the tense situation regarding workers in the Ural region. On 29 January 1920, he sent a telegram to Vladimir Smirnov stating "I am surprised that you are taking the matter so lightly, and are not immediately executing large numbers of strikers for the crime of sabotage." It didnt take long for the peasants that gave the needed muscle for the revolution to realize they had been lied to and used.
willmickel71 2 years ago
True. But Lenin also did not deal with industrialists by keeping their taxes low, & he did not set up a party labor organization which actually favored management, as another dictator did. He did not run around with the leaders of the Protestant and Catholic church and sign concordats with the Vatican, hardly a liberal or left-leaning organization. He believed in taking private property and redistributing wealth, a classless society, and a world w/o national borders, opposite of A.H.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Nazi Germany was a corporate industrialists' wet dream. No wonder Henry Ford, Lindbergh and Prescott Bush said nice things about the "new Germany." No wonder American liberals (union people, socialists, commies, students, teachers, etc.) volunteered by the thousands to fight fascism during Spain's Civil War of 1936-39, while Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church threw their support to Franco &, as Sultzburger put it in his history of WWII, his CONSERVATIVE generals.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Henry Ford? Well he was also admired by Stalin and Lenin. 1929 the Soviet Union signed an agreement with the Ford Motor Company. Under its terms, the Soviets agreed to purchase $13 million worth of automobiles and parts, while Ford agreed to give technical assistance until 1938 to construct an integrated automobile-manufacturing plant at Nizhny Novgorod.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.
The Anti-Defamation League. A Jewish organization no less.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Both Ford and Lindbergh were awarded the "Cross of the German Eagle" by Hitler's number 2 man, Reichmarshall Herman Goering, in the late 1930s. Let's face it....many bigwigs dealt with the Nazis, including many American companies, some even after 1941. The Nazis never worked for egalitarianism or equality, never redistributed wealth, etc. They played footsie with the church, and were seen by rightists worldwide as a bulwark protecting Europe against atheistic bolshevism.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
The working class ended up in worse conditions under Communism then they did with Capitalism. After the Bolshevik revolution many rejected the communist rule and a peasant revolt led to an all-out civil war. Lenin saw the need for a crackdown that history calls The Red Terror. An estimated 9 million people died under Lenins iron fist. Furthermore, socialist ideology led to collective farming policies and the seizure of crops that caused a famine leading to over 10 million pointless deaths.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Yeah, that only proves that they often used strong arm tactics, so what? Hitler APPEALED TO THE GERMAN BURGHER CLASS AND UP...that is, the middle, upper middle, and wealthy. Those are not the types that would favor a leftist agenda, esp. when their money was involved. I don't know how many times I've heard conservatives right here in the US say, "What we need for about 5 years is a strong man to straighten this country out"...same thing the Germans said around 1932-33, & they found one!
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Why is it, then, that leftist the world over have always hated fascism? Why did noted leftwinger Charlie Chaplin make a movie mocking Hitler, when we all know he had socialist tendencies? Why did 1930s liberal folk singer Woody Guthrie have "This Guitar Kills Fascists" painted on the side of his guitar? Why the Abe Lincoln Brigade, and other international brigades of lefties from the US & everywhere, rush in to Spain to fight Franco, Hitler, and the rise of fascism, if they LOVED it so much?
ciraldofan 2 years ago
From the days of Marx there were innumerable splits in the extreme Leftist movement but two of the most significant occurred around the time of the Bolshevik revolution when in Russia the Bolsheviks themselves split into Leninists and Trotskyites and when in Italy Mussolini left Italy's major Marxist party to found the "Fascists". It split between the Internationalists and the nationalists with Lenin having a foot in both camps. Any idea that a nationalist cannot be a Leftist is pure fiction.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Yeah, and any idea that the Nazi camp of fascism is" leftist" is pure fiction also. Rightists, in Europe and Latin America, have pushed many times for a strong central gov't. to protect a race, religion, a traditional "way of life," etc. Yes, there were some leftists ideas in early Italian fascism, but Hitler ignored the 25 Points, & Nazism was a different animal altogether.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Since you've read about the Spanish Civil War. I'm guessing you know that the Communists and anarchists spent more time fighting each other than fighting Franco. George Orwell volunteered to fight on the leftist side, but his experiences on the front led to his disillusionment with Marxism and to his later authorship of his two classic books debunking that system, "Animal Farm" and "1984."
willmickel71 2 years ago
I know that the communists appealed to people who were anti-religion and left-leaning, and the fascists were supported big time by the Catholic Church & "traditionalists". I had a teacher in high school (very conservative) who had lived with her husband for several years in fascist Spain. She always spoke very highly of Franco, & how she detested communism. I also know that in 1957 Wm. F. Buckley came back from Spain & said some mighty nice things about the regime in the "Nat. Review."
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Franco was a supporter of the Catholic Church and fought with Leftists that were exterminating Catholics. Hitler on the other hand did not. He killed as many as a thousand priests and nuns in Poland alone. A Hitler Youth marching song : We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel, Away with incense and Holy Water, The Church can go hang for all we care, The Swastika brings salvation on Earth.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Franco never fought WITH leftist! Period. Why would he fight with people who were killing Catholics? Your sources? As to Hitler and the church, I could find just as many quotes from A.H. in support of the church (ex: "By resisting the Jews, I Fight for the Lord" which became an SA battle cry) as you can find against. Remember, after the war it was the Vatican "rat lines" whereby priest & monks helped Nazis escape to Latin Am. Pope Pius XII was even known by many as "Hitler's Pope."
ciraldofan 2 years ago
I didn't mean "with" like together. I meant like a Husband fights with his wife.
willmickel71 2 years ago
"I am now as before a Catholic & will always remain so." - Adolph Hitler to a Gen. of the Wermacht, 1941.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter..." - A. Hitler, April 12, 1922.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
"Hitler's Pope." by John Cornwell has ten years later retracted many of this claims.
I would now argue, in the light of the debates and evidence following 'Hitler's Pope', that Pius XII had so little scope of action that it is impossible to judge the motives for his silence during the war, while Rome was under the heel of Mussolini and later occupied by the Germans." John Cornwell.
willmickel71 2 years ago
"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Adolf Hitler
willmickel71 2 years ago
Yeah. Just google the words Hitler and religious quotes. As I said, you can find just as many of him being supportive of religion, esp. Catholicism, as his being against. It's no wonder, though, in Germany, the land of Luther, that an anti-semite would have appealed to people during times of crisis. Google the words Martin Luther & Jews....that man hated Jews as much as A.H.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
In Poland, the Nazis murdered over 2500 monks and priests while even more were sent to concentration camps. The Priester-Block (priests barracks) the Dachau concentration camp lists 2600 Roman Catholic priests. 108 Blessed Polish Martyrs were Roman Catholics from Poland killed during World War II by the Nazis. Pope Pius and the Catholic Church were responsible for saving more Jews from Nazi persecution than any other person or institution. Some Israeli scholars estimate that as many as 860,000.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Many courageous Christians, both Protestant and Catholic, stood up to the Nazis, even risking their lives to help Jews. Still, in a country like Germany with its 65 million people, the vast majority of people attended their Lutheran & Catholic services, then left church & enthusiastically hailed their Fuerher. Anti-semitism has always been a problem within Christianity, though in recent years Christians have appeared to own up to the fact & have worked for better relations with Jews.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
True, and as he volunteered to fight on the LEFTIST SIDE, he was volunteering to fight the rightist side. I thing Orwell, who considered himself a socialist (which can mean many things to many people) was writing against fascism in his books more so than communism...not sure, but of course, they both use the same METHODS, so it's reasonable to assume he could have been writing against both, despite their big differences.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Yeah, and I'm sure Henry laughed all the way to the bank. Remember, this is the same man who had been somewhat liberal before the First World War ($5 day for workers), but by the 1930s was sending out Harry Bennett and his goons to beat up union organizers. Ford would have sold cars to Satan if Old Scratch's bank account could have afforded it.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Yet these Communists before the cold war admired American industrialists.
American efficiency is that indomitable force which neither knows nor recognizes obstacles; which continues on a task once started until it is finished, even if it is a minor task; and without which serious constructive work is impossible . . . The combination of the Russian revolutionary sweep with American efficiency is the essence of Leninism. Joesph Stalin
willmickel71 2 years ago
And this has what to do with fascism being on the right or left? In Reid's book "The Fall of Berlin," he cites American businessmen and their admiration for the Germany they saw in the mid-1930s, a country with "no unions, no commies, no agitators."
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Communists on race.
In Central Europe only Germans, Hungarians, and Poles counted as bearers of progress. The rest must go. The chief mission of all other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Friedrich Engels
willmickel71 2 years ago
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willmickel71 2 years ago
Cirodan FASCISM = Corporate Socialism!
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MisterRight4prez 2 years ago
Corporate socialism? If by that you mean a military-industrial-gov't triangle that kept taxes LOW on corporations and the wealthy, that outlawed unions & then set up a "Labor Front" organization which FAVORED MANAGEMENT, that NEVER worked to redistribute wealth, and a regime that was ADORED by the middle class & up, then, yes, corporate socialism.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Fascism = modern day Progressive movement
Fascism is cap & trade
Fasscism = national socialism
Fascism = Nazionalizing industry at dismay of free market
Fascism = targeted tax redistributation to the State to subsidize Corporations married to the state "such as many of Al Gore's
Fascism = Nazionalizing healthcare as Hitler did and taking the responsibilty of the Corporate oligarthy to include in salary/compensation and forcing it on the tax payer
MisterRight4prez 2 years ago
Fascists shoot progressives, liberals, socialists, communists, and, yes, many conservatives too. It is a form of gov't favored by the large landowners and industrialists who fear encroaching bolshevism. It does NOT redistribute wealth or force equality on people at the point of a gun. It has even been favored by the church. Instead of a worker's socialist paradise, most fascist countries fit the bill as a "Military-Industrial-Government Triangle." Taxes were low under Hitler.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
so stupid!!!! hahaha!!!!
itaman13 2 years ago
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s11121sx 2 years ago
"Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism."
(Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)
willmickel71 2 years ago
"In the background, to be sure, there lurked the terror of the Gestapo & the fear of the concentration camp for those who got out of line or who had been Communists or SOCIALISTS or TOO LIBERAL or too pacifist, or who were Jews." - William Shirer, "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," p. 231, describing the Germany of 1934. While there may have been a few leftwing eco. elements in the Third Reich (just as there were in, say, the Nixon adm.), most of their beliefs were on the far right.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
It is obvious what the fraudulent issue of fascism versus communism accomplishes: it sets up, as opposites, two variants of the same political system; it eliminates the possibility of considering capitalism; it switches the choice of Freedom or dictatorship? into Which kind of dictatorship?—thus establishing dictatorship as an inevitable fact and offering only a choice of rulers. Extremism, or The Art of Smearing,
willmickel71 2 years ago
True, but who benefits from a fascist dictatorship? Why do the wealthy capitalists, large landowners, hierarchy of the church, etc., favor fascism? Interesting, the commies have always had to put up walls to keep people inside areas they control...but other than Jews, there was no mass exodus from Germany...Hitler was very popular with the middle classes AND UP. Most Germans wholeheartedly approved of the Third Reich...it did not preach socialistic equality, but rather their superiority.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Who benefits from a fascist dictatorship? In the long run only those at top of the fascist party. Capitalists? Only if they produce for the state and in the manner they are told to produce. Christians? In the end Hitler killed many of them as well. Are Jews safer in the Communist state? Read about the Night of the Murdered Poets or The Great Purge. Stalin said "The good workers at the factory should be given clubs so they can beat the hell out of those Jews." "every Jew is a potential spy."
willmickel71 2 years ago
Ha! Hitler was ADORED by industrialists - they weren't forced to go to Berlin, they RAN to get lucrative military contracts...taxes were low, unions banned, they cleaned house. Recently, several studies of that time have shown just how popular the Nazi regime was with the average German. Christians? Yeah, they killed a lot....got help from a lot too, esp. at end of war with Vatican pipelines to S. America. Jews have been hated in just about every society since the beginning of time.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Hitler setup the Labour Front. Both employers and employees joined it. According to the National Labour Law of January 20, 1934, the state would exert direct influence and control over all business employing more than twenty persons. In other words, both employers and employees were put under the control of the government. When faced with only the choice of Communism or Fascism you may be forced to side with the one that seems less likely to exterminate you.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Read Braun's book, "The German Eco. in the 20 Century"...you'll see how the Labour Front actually FAVORED MANAGEMENT....wages for the lower classes fell by up to 25% between 1933-38, and taxes were reduced on wealthy & big business. The Nazis shot people who favored anything like redistribution of wealth. Read Shirer, Toland, Bullock...these books have been in print for 40-50 plus years, still stand the test of time. Hitler hated the left, equality in economics, etc.
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Yet the Nazis removed the bourgeois completely from control. Those entrepreneurs who were neither Jewish nor suspect of liberal and pacifist leanings retained their positions in the economic structure. But they were virtually merely salaried civil servants bound to comply unconditionally with the orders of their superiors, the bureaucrats of the Reich and the Nazi party.
Ludwig von Mises
willmickel71 2 years ago
von Mises? Ha, that institute thinks it's socialism when the town council decides to put up a stop sign at the corner of Maple and Elm. You might try reading some real history. Oh, and from "The Fall of Berlin," by Read & Fisher, describing American businessmen & their views on the Reich in 1936, p. 16: "They liked it...the streets were clean & peaceful. Law & order. No strikes, no trouble-making unions. No agitators. No commies." It was many things....leftwing it weren't!
ciraldofan 2 years ago
Ludwig Von Mises was one of the most well known and respected economists of the 20th century. The quote who made from 'The Fall of Berlin" could describe any Communist county. Except of course the No commies part.
willmickel71 2 years ago
Webster's Dictionary defines National Socialism.
"the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the National Socialist German Workers' party in the Third German Reich including the totalitarian principle of government, state control of all industry, predominance of groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the fuhrer."
willmickel71 2 years ago
True. But just as you said that the quote from "The Fall of Berlin" could describe any Communist country, the description of the NSDAP describes a RIGHTWING DICATATORSHIP,