He's been an MP for 7 years and served his community by securing funds to build the Strandherd Armstrong Bridge. What have you done in the last 7 years? CBC biased, poor people got fooled by CBC, open your eyes!!
@LittleBearCW Steve Desroches did more to help the Strandherd Armstrong Bridge than Poilievre could ever dream of.
Pierre Poilievre is a racist POS, and I'm honestly embarrassed and ashamed to be living in a riding where we elected him not once, not twice, but three times.
@funforalgernon Poilievre supporters vandalizing $2000 worth of Keon's signs shows you just how pathetic and petty his supporters are. The fact that Poilievre still has yet to denounce the vandalism shows that he condones it.
@GSGFlash He's never done or said anything publicly to suggest that he is a racist, so I'm not sure where you're trying to get with that kind of slander. His comments regarding the "apology" to Natives is not only a valid point of view but it raises significant questions about the ineffective nature of our Aboriginal policy that do need to be addressed. And how do you know it's his supporters who have defaced Keon's signs? You don't and neither does he, and he has no responsibility to address it
@GSGFlash You are using a very tired logical fallacy regarding the sign issue. "Poilievre can't prove his supporters are not responsible, therefore they are". It's true simply because it hasn't been proven false was the same kind of faulty logic to support the intervention over WMD's in Iraq. It's stupid and you ought to know better. It's also wrong to lump all of his supporters into the same category - they're not a monolith and you're riding roughshod over the sense of self of individuals.
1. Contrary to Mercer, Poilievre does NOT qualify for his pension NOW; having served six years he is now *eligible* for an MPs' pension - WHEN he turns 55 (in June 2034). Until then he'll never see a dime, even if he were voted out in the next election.
2. As for Mercer's allegation that Poilievre never held a "job", he should've looked a little harder. According to Wikipedia, Poilievre worked for Magna International and owned a polling and consulting firm.
@DarthAverage If you count Wikipedia articles as "evidence" of anything, you deserve to be lied to by the Conservatives (and you undoubtedly will be).
I would say Pierre Polievre deserves the bashing he got here. Just because we have it pretty good does not mean we should take it easy on our politicans. If you do they'll take whatever they want from us, like putting tax on groceries for example.
Here's a suggestion for an amendment. My Dad's pension worked on a factor of 90. Age + Experience. So 31 years old with 7 years experience = 38. No pension. 55 years old plus 35 years experience = full pension. Just a thought.
I took poli sci classes with this guy at the University of Calgary. To call him a condescending reactionary with a hidden agenda who is blind to his personal ambitions is the understatement of the century.
This has nothing to do with Poilivere despite him being the subject of the video. Yeah, he is a dirtbag, but he's just eligible for what we voters said Parliamentarians could get away with. Make fun of Poilivere all you want, Rick - this video says more about us not doing anything to change government than it says about the politician in question.
John Baird is such a prick. I sent him a full email about the new copyright bill...he got his secretary to send me back an email saying I was basically very very wrong, and that stealing is bad.
He's been an MP for 7 years and served his community by securing funds to build the Strandherd Armstrong Bridge. What have you done in the last 7 years? CBC biased, poor people got fooled by CBC, open your eyes!!
I'm sure the pensioners from Nortel who worked hard for 30 years to get their pensions only to have them vanish will be overjoyed that a smarmy kid who has never held a real job in his life is now set for life.
not set for life; from retirement age. If he loses his seat in the next election and can't get a job, he'll starve for thirty years. It's sad what happened to Nortel employees, and I don't like the fact that people have entire careers in politics, but he was duly elected, and should not be discriminated from the same benefits as every other elected official because he is younger. If his age is a problem, then his constituents can decide his fate.
I don't think the point was to discriminate against Pierre, but to point out the idiocy of our system - a system wherein the people currently crying poor about Nortel pensions are at the same time, giving themselves gold pensions that most of us would only dream of having, fully eligible at 31. Or voting to impose a tax on other's pensions.
Its Pierre because he is the biggest blowhard when squawking about "Liberals" milking the system...good ole Conservative hypocrisy
Poilievre did not milk the system. He happens to now be eligible for the benefit. He did not ask for it. I'm not quite sure what he is supposed done here. Ban the MP pension system? MPs work exceptionally hard, and we want the best and brightest to work in public service. Nortel is a public company, and sometimes bad things happen in industry. We acknowledge these hardships that can occur in a capitalist society. Maybe MP pensions are too high. That doesn't mean it is the fault of any party.
Then he can refuse it (remember when Stephen Harper was going to do that when he was Leader of the opposition?)
I vaguely remember a certain party campaigning on how they were going to be different, yet all I hear right now from you are the dame excuses the Liberals gave when confronted with the same issues.
I should expect no less "fiscal conservatism" from a party that has raised spending even more than Paul Martin + Jack Layton did.
I am not talking about the Conservative Party. I am talking about Pierre Poilievre. I have stated that I do not like career politicians. But this is not his own doing. Why should he turn down a potential pension 30 years before he can receive it? What if he leaves office and later on returns? Why should he limit himself?
Again, I am only talking about Pierre Poilievre. The Conservative spending is another issue entirely.
Oh, its a Christian Conservative...well, that explains the incredible ability to miss the point completely and blindly defend anything the CPC does (even if you lambasted the Liberals for doing the same thing 5 years ago...)
BTW, before you start calling me a "Liberal" (and you knew it was coming) I'm a libertarian. I won't vote for any of those authoritarian bastards. Least of all the meanspirited, moralizing prigs in the Conservatives, out for nothing but power.
I have not lambasted the Liberals at all, and it is ridiculous to assume anything you have no knowledge of.
What does my religion have to do with anything? If I were an atheist would that have mattered? Let's not discriminate based on religion.
I was not going to call you a Liberal. I like Liberals more than libertarians.
I'm not defending any party here. I'm defending this MP because he did absolutely nothing wrong. He simply qualified for a program he won't be able to access for 30 years.
Well, he's 32-22 now it seems. Still rather shocking. Wonder what type of feedback they got?
mikegifford 10 months ago
wow.. the douchebag of the year
ctmck1492 10 months ago
He's been an MP for 7 years and served his community by securing funds to build the Strandherd Armstrong Bridge. What have you done in the last 7 years? CBC biased, poor people got fooled by CBC, open your eyes!!
LittleBearCW 10 months ago
@LittleBearCW Pork barrel spending? That's your defence? Man...his acolytes are more pathetic than we thought.
funforalgernon 10 months ago
@LittleBearCW Steve Desroches did more to help the Strandherd Armstrong Bridge than Poilievre could ever dream of.
Pierre Poilievre is a racist POS, and I'm honestly embarrassed and ashamed to be living in a riding where we elected him not once, not twice, but three times.
@funforalgernon Poilievre supporters vandalizing $2000 worth of Keon's signs shows you just how pathetic and petty his supporters are. The fact that Poilievre still has yet to denounce the vandalism shows that he condones it.
GSGFlash 10 months ago
@GSGFlash He's never done or said anything publicly to suggest that he is a racist, so I'm not sure where you're trying to get with that kind of slander. His comments regarding the "apology" to Natives is not only a valid point of view but it raises significant questions about the ineffective nature of our Aboriginal policy that do need to be addressed. And how do you know it's his supporters who have defaced Keon's signs? You don't and neither does he, and he has no responsibility to address it
levanyzzuf 10 months ago
@GSGFlash You are using a very tired logical fallacy regarding the sign issue. "Poilievre can't prove his supporters are not responsible, therefore they are". It's true simply because it hasn't been proven false was the same kind of faulty logic to support the intervention over WMD's in Iraq. It's stupid and you ought to know better. It's also wrong to lump all of his supporters into the same category - they're not a monolith and you're riding roughshod over the sense of self of individuals.
levanyzzuf 10 months ago
A couple "clarifications"...
1. Contrary to Mercer, Poilievre does NOT qualify for his pension NOW; having served six years he is now *eligible* for an MPs' pension - WHEN he turns 55 (in June 2034). Until then he'll never see a dime, even if he were voted out in the next election.
2. As for Mercer's allegation that Poilievre never held a "job", he should've looked a little harder. According to Wikipedia, Poilievre worked for Magna International and owned a polling and consulting firm.
DarthAverage 1 year ago
@DarthAverage u cud not suk peere dik more
permatroll 11 months ago
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ericvallillee 10 months ago
@DarthAverage If you count Wikipedia articles as "evidence" of anything, you deserve to be lied to by the Conservatives (and you undoubtedly will be).
ericvallillee 10 months ago
a "job" LOL
sweiland75 1 year ago
a lot of people are complaining about the idocy of our system
but as much as it sucks, for so many people. it could be worse
all of our politicians are lying fools
it could be worse
we could live in a dictatorship where we are starving all the time and the word pension or retirment simply does not exist
i dont mean to be a jerk i mean it really sucks about the Nortel etc, and the unfairness of so much
and i know its fun to bash our politicians but just keep in mind we have it pretty good.
TheSomeone12389 2 years ago
I would say Pierre Polievre deserves the bashing he got here. Just because we have it pretty good does not mean we should take it easy on our politicans. If you do they'll take whatever they want from us, like putting tax on groceries for example.
Bullfrog1983 2 years ago 10
@TheSomeone12389 My counter to your "could be worse" argument:
Should be better
powereater 1 year ago 4
Here's a suggestion for an amendment. My Dad's pension worked on a factor of 90. Age + Experience. So 31 years old with 7 years experience = 38. No pension. 55 years old plus 35 years experience = full pension. Just a thought.
lugger11 2 years ago
fuckin hell..
someone.
please save me..?
EoinStidster 2 years ago
I love you RM
microdeath123 2 years ago
Damn, he' s my MP
CrazyShakaZulu 2 years ago
what would happen if I suddenly walked into to his office and started doing a striptease for him?
annaLaPointe 2 years ago
Nothing...he's far to friendly with John Baird to let that affect him....
johnycannuk 2 years ago
Just as a note, Andrew Scheer also comes up for this...
I don't really see a problem with the pension thing to be honest, possibly make the amount of time you need longer, but c'est la vie.
Makaki0 2 years ago
And if it had been a Liberal or NDP MP getting this...I can't imagine your outrage....
johnycannuk 2 years ago
I took poli sci classes with this guy at the University of Calgary. To call him a condescending reactionary with a hidden agenda who is blind to his personal ambitions is the understatement of the century.
cimmeriantower 2 years ago 8
This guy is my MP and I have met him many times...he didn't by any chance have a personal photographer in that class did he?
He sure does now...
johnycannuk 2 years ago
This has nothing to do with Poilivere despite him being the subject of the video. Yeah, he is a dirtbag, but he's just eligible for what we voters said Parliamentarians could get away with. Make fun of Poilivere all you want, Rick - this video says more about us not doing anything to change government than it says about the politician in question.
liberalrealist 2 years ago
Will Pierre refuse to accept it?
I mean the poor guy only makes $149K plus expenses per year . That's tough for a single guy to live on.
Especially one who claims to represent the views of families and pimp family values at every chance.
Hell no, Pierre is a carpet bagger from Alberta who parachuted in 5 years ago. He'll take his pension and run back home as as he gets the chance.
johnycannuk 2 years ago
Epic
Delvaris 2 years ago 6
I remember when the National Citizens Coalition would go after a story like this. What ever happened to them?
pattipage12 2 years ago 2
Pierre Poilievre is an even bigger douchebag than John Baird.
He's also my MP.
funforalgernon 2 years ago 35
John Baird is such a prick. I sent him a full email about the new copyright bill...he got his secretary to send me back an email saying I was basically very very wrong, and that stealing is bad.
elitexero 2 years ago 4
@funforalgernon
He's been an MP for 7 years and served his community by securing funds to build the Strandherd Armstrong Bridge. What have you done in the last 7 years? CBC biased, poor people got fooled by CBC, open your eyes!!
LittleBearCW 10 months ago
@funforalgernon at least pierre isn't always pictured yelling.!
CPR9818 9 months ago
@funforalgernon at least pierre isn't always pictured yelling!
CPR9818 9 months ago
@funforalgernon That means you live less than 10 minutes from where I live.
LivesForJihad 4 months ago
Note that he will receive the pension when he hits mandatory retirement age, not when he loses/retires his seat.
AEdwardWoolley 2 years ago
I'm sure the pensioners from Nortel who worked hard for 30 years to get their pensions only to have them vanish will be overjoyed that a smarmy kid who has never held a real job in his life is now set for life.
Yeah, its all about Standing up for Canada...
johnycannuk 2 years ago 4
not set for life; from retirement age. If he loses his seat in the next election and can't get a job, he'll starve for thirty years. It's sad what happened to Nortel employees, and I don't like the fact that people have entire careers in politics, but he was duly elected, and should not be discriminated from the same benefits as every other elected official because he is younger. If his age is a problem, then his constituents can decide his fate.
AEdwardWoolley 2 years ago
I don't think the point was to discriminate against Pierre, but to point out the idiocy of our system - a system wherein the people currently crying poor about Nortel pensions are at the same time, giving themselves gold pensions that most of us would only dream of having, fully eligible at 31. Or voting to impose a tax on other's pensions.
Its Pierre because he is the biggest blowhard when squawking about "Liberals" milking the system...good ole Conservative hypocrisy
johnycannuk 2 years ago 7
Poilievre did not milk the system. He happens to now be eligible for the benefit. He did not ask for it. I'm not quite sure what he is supposed done here. Ban the MP pension system? MPs work exceptionally hard, and we want the best and brightest to work in public service. Nortel is a public company, and sometimes bad things happen in industry. We acknowledge these hardships that can occur in a capitalist society. Maybe MP pensions are too high. That doesn't mean it is the fault of any party.
AEdwardWoolley 2 years ago
Then he can refuse it (remember when Stephen Harper was going to do that when he was Leader of the opposition?)
I vaguely remember a certain party campaigning on how they were going to be different, yet all I hear right now from you are the dame excuses the Liberals gave when confronted with the same issues.
I should expect no less "fiscal conservatism" from a party that has raised spending even more than Paul Martin + Jack Layton did.
No wonder we have a record deficit...
johnycannuk 2 years ago 5
I am not talking about the Conservative Party. I am talking about Pierre Poilievre. I have stated that I do not like career politicians. But this is not his own doing. Why should he turn down a potential pension 30 years before he can receive it? What if he leaves office and later on returns? Why should he limit himself?
Again, I am only talking about Pierre Poilievre. The Conservative spending is another issue entirely.
AEdwardWoolley 2 years ago
Oh, its a Christian Conservative...well, that explains the incredible ability to miss the point completely and blindly defend anything the CPC does (even if you lambasted the Liberals for doing the same thing 5 years ago...)
BTW, before you start calling me a "Liberal" (and you knew it was coming) I'm a libertarian. I won't vote for any of those authoritarian bastards. Least of all the meanspirited, moralizing prigs in the Conservatives, out for nothing but power.
johnycannuk 2 years ago 4
I have not lambasted the Liberals at all, and it is ridiculous to assume anything you have no knowledge of.
What does my religion have to do with anything? If I were an atheist would that have mattered? Let's not discriminate based on religion.
I was not going to call you a Liberal. I like Liberals more than libertarians.
I'm not defending any party here. I'm defending this MP because he did absolutely nothing wrong. He simply qualified for a program he won't be able to access for 30 years.
AEdwardWoolley 2 years ago
Well done, Rick. CBC needs more opinion in its op/ed.
Thrax1 2 years ago 26
Ouch!!! pension at 31... Politic corruption at is best!
XRayden 2 years ago 10