Man, didn't think Dr. Enforcicle would be that effective on that server lol. You normally have to work a little more to really kick ass against those guys.
I don't think people don't second guess you as a "friendly" spy, at least they shouldn't. A spy is working behind enemy lines and behind enemy backs, you're clearly at the wrong side of the map, visible, your spy disguise appears disguised as a random enemy and kind of "hanging around" rather than desperate for stabs. It screams "DR SPY acting cute HERE".
Maybe it's the matter of the angles, maybe they believe their "friendly" spy is a super failspy from hell, or they're oblivious...
Hmm.... interesting. I will say that I don't think the Dead Ringer gets enough credit, dropping a ragdoll of a friendly team member on top of super cloak really easily lets you get behind enemy lines without making people anymore spy paranoid. But one of my favorite disguises otherwise is the enemy spy, it's insane how much they'll buy a spy hopping backwards towards them with a revolver out, and/or crouch walking with it like a failspy. Fun stuff :D
The "super cloak" works, for all intents and purposes, like a lone medic's panic uber on top of the invisibity and fake corpse. It's super strong just for that reason...
@a0classcriminal I was emphasizing dropping the corpse of a team mate specifically, like disguising as a Pyro and dropping a pyro agdoll when the cloak fires off. That's some useful shit.
@watsyurdeal It's true, but spy being the ultimate fusion of skill and metagame, using a tool as meta as the chat to find spies should come naturally!
Also in regards to your aim, to me it seems like you're just holding down the fire button and blindly shooting at them, whereas with the Ambassador you're forcing yourself to wait for that cooldown and therefore spacing your shots for when you're actually aiming at the enemy. May want to just practice not spewing bullets randomly and focusing on shooting only when your crosshair is on your target (you nailed basically all the shots with the Enforcer on targets you took your time with)
The funny thing is, in the times that I've gone Dr. Enforcicle, I've rarely had to use the knife to put myself out. Not because I'm gunning the Pyros down and then using the DR to extinguish, but because I avoid Pyros like the plague as I would regardless of what watch or knife I'm using. The only times I've had to use it is when I've turned a corner and there's a Pyro headbutting me in the face, which again, is rare.
spycicle seems more like a detriment to the spy than any sort of aid. You can hear the spycicle melt/shatter and thats a pyros que to start airblasting. If you do airblast him succesfully there is a sound that you hear. All thats left is to continue airblasting and then puff on him once and watch him scramble to a health pack.
The silent kills and fire immunity are immensely powerful, but losing your knife, and the ice sculptures notifying the enemy of your presence are equally as powerful. It's an interesting weapon to say the least, many people call it overpowered until they've actually used it, and realize how it works, and how to counter it.
Teehee, I remember when you changed your name to asshole. I looked on my buddy list (I'm Spysaac, AKA Commandifier Spysaac Sandvic XIV) and saw your name. I was curious as to why you did that. Now it all makes sense.... :D
Around 5:35 you started shooting a pyro you thought was a spy. But I knew he was not a spy before you did. So look at me. Now back at the screen. Now back to me. What am I holding? This is a gun. Now back to your screen. That pyro there is calling for medic. Now back to me. What am I doing? I'm looking at the bottom of the screen. Now look back at the screen. What do you see? A blue team member calling for medic in the chat. That's right kids, check your chat to find spies!
Haha, the second I saw the video description, I thought "Oh god this is going to be complete utter pwnage. That hypocrite!" then I realized that I can be an asshole on tf2 as well sometimes and then I was all... This calls for a Spy-five!
I know Spies who love it for the afterburn immunity, and I know some who hate it for the 15 seconds without a knife.
I know Pyros who hate the fact that it makes the Spy's escape easier, and I know some who love that it makes them knife less, and incapable of stabbing any of their allies, or pulling a trick stab on them.
It's an item that needs more time I think, give it another 6 months and I bet it'll be considered a side grade.
still dont understand why people like the spycicle so much (or think its op or w/e). If you wanna kill a pyro, you are immediately limiting yourself to using the gun, which you could quite easily do out of flamethrower range anyway. Sure the times when there isn't a pyro on the other team, means its a straight upgrade, but as soon as theres a pyro around, i'd take the standard knife anyday. and Wats you utter shitter for using enforcer blah blah blah (thought this would get liked more with that)
The only argument I have against nerfing this is, on a pub ctf map, the impossible to break Pomson-Homewrecker nests. If the other team wants to play dirty, you can just play dirtier. =P
Personally I find the Spy-cicle to pretty much be a downgrade. The silent killer is made redundant by the almost-as-loud not to mention distinctive freezing noise. And the Pyro protection is pretty useless most of the time, as a good Pyro will just airblast you against a wall and then rape you with their secondary, or even just wait until your fire-invulnerability runs out.
Spy-cicle did give spy two more seconds to fight against pyro, that's a useful lesson and, amby's spread recovery time is 0.95 sec, which is shorter than any other guns' which is 1.25 sec. That's why you love amby. It would be better aiming at body with other guns to compensate for spread firing in my opinion.
@darkerxXx LL doesn't need a nerf since it's already a bad launcher to begin with. I use stock all the time over that p.o.s. Only noobs might think it's good but in the long run it won't be as beneficial to a soldier as a 4th rocket.
@darkerxXx Then learn to reflect? Stay at mid range and reflect all his rockets back at him and make him eat mini crits. You can pepper on some shotgun pellets while you do this as well.
@darkerxXx It did too little on nerfing the Enforcer
since u can still run around trying to shoot full health players to death and will still get away with the Dead Ringer
The proper nerf is as watsyurdeal said before,
unable to change weapon, disguise or cloak whenever u take out the enforcer unless u kill someone.
Thats mean, if some shitty spies try to initiate fights with that thing without thinking, they will get punished by cant DR. May be should + cant see enemy health too
@XC11301991 You know that circle hat is the minigun crosshair? All spie's revolvers but the ambassador has that circle spread. It's used in other source games too like the AK-47 in CS:S.
@Jamilotc Minigun as well, first bullet that comes out is where you aim. This also goes for shotguns, 1 pellet goes down the middle. Amby does not have as big of a spread as the other revolvers but it does have spread after first shot.
There are one more thing that i like act as , its acting paranoid - and turning back same time enemy do it
iVirtueToVice 3 days ago
I always say it as Doctor Enforcer myself.
Paralellex 1 month ago
mr watsurdeal can u pls make a video to teach me how to helichopter stab?
metalgearmonkeyboy 1 month ago
My god, Asshole, you got 42 points! Ugh I'm so jealous. I wish I had even 1/10th of your spying abilities D:
EmberflyLayouts 1 month ago
Really good video
TheArkitektSol 1 month ago
Man, didn't think Dr. Enforcicle would be that effective on that server lol. You normally have to work a little more to really kick ass against those guys.
aznbkd19 1 month ago
"Who stabs people anymore? Why not shoot them?"
whydon'twehaveboth.avi
RNGgod 1 month ago
Are u using Stabby's script?
soccerphenom26 1 month ago
Gah! You recorded this? You owned the fuck outta me and pissed me off so bad XD
ZantPaul 1 month ago
I don't think people don't second guess you as a "friendly" spy, at least they shouldn't. A spy is working behind enemy lines and behind enemy backs, you're clearly at the wrong side of the map, visible, your spy disguise appears disguised as a random enemy and kind of "hanging around" rather than desperate for stabs. It screams "DR SPY acting cute HERE".
Maybe it's the matter of the angles, maybe they believe their "friendly" spy is a super failspy from hell, or they're oblivious...
a0classcriminal 1 month ago
Hmm.... interesting. I will say that I don't think the Dead Ringer gets enough credit, dropping a ragdoll of a friendly team member on top of super cloak really easily lets you get behind enemy lines without making people anymore spy paranoid. But one of my favorite disguises otherwise is the enemy spy, it's insane how much they'll buy a spy hopping backwards towards them with a revolver out, and/or crouch walking with it like a failspy. Fun stuff :D
weirddudeonice 1 month ago
@weirddudeonice
The "super cloak" works, for all intents and purposes, like a lone medic's panic uber on top of the invisibity and fake corpse. It's super strong just for that reason...
a0classcriminal 1 month ago
@a0classcriminal I was emphasizing dropping the corpse of a team mate specifically, like disguising as a Pyro and dropping a pyro agdoll when the cloak fires off. That's some useful shit.
weirddudeonice 1 month ago
watsyurdeal r u using a custom hud? i really like ur hud
Nobodyy147 1 month ago
@Nobodyy147
pretty sure that's the normal one but minimal HUD
FinnT3hHuman 1 month ago
Hey Wats, Kaji here. Why not do a video of you spamming the "unspammable" pomson? :D
Mackinz92 1 month ago
@Mackinz92
I may do it on the live stream, just because those people were absolute idiots.
I mean it's not like nobody wanted the Righteous Bison for Engi, not at all.
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
@watsyurdeal When is the stream? :O
Mackinz92 1 month ago
@watsyurdeal It's true, but spy being the ultimate fusion of skill and metagame, using a tool as meta as the chat to find spies should come naturally!
IsaaCrafter 1 month ago
You played that entire round disguised as a red spy. Shame on you!
TreyTheTrebor 1 month ago
@TreyTheTrebor
I r asshole, I do what I want
watsyurdeal 1 month ago 7
Also in regards to your aim, to me it seems like you're just holding down the fire button and blindly shooting at them, whereas with the Ambassador you're forcing yourself to wait for that cooldown and therefore spacing your shots for when you're actually aiming at the enemy. May want to just practice not spewing bullets randomly and focusing on shooting only when your crosshair is on your target (you nailed basically all the shots with the Enforcer on targets you took your time with)
ChaoSynergy 1 month ago
@ChaoSynergy
I'm just used to the Ambassador, it's like an addiction to me.
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
The funny thing is, in the times that I've gone Dr. Enforcicle, I've rarely had to use the knife to put myself out. Not because I'm gunning the Pyros down and then using the DR to extinguish, but because I avoid Pyros like the plague as I would regardless of what watch or knife I'm using. The only times I've had to use it is when I've turned a corner and there's a Pyro headbutting me in the face, which again, is rare.
ChaoSynergy 1 month ago
spycicle seems more like a detriment to the spy than any sort of aid. You can hear the spycicle melt/shatter and thats a pyros que to start airblasting. If you do airblast him succesfully there is a sound that you hear. All thats left is to continue airblasting and then puff on him once and watch him scramble to a health pack.
ZypherZZZ10 1 month ago
@ZypherZZZ10
It's at both ends of the spectrum
The silent kills and fire immunity are immensely powerful, but losing your knife, and the ice sculptures notifying the enemy of your presence are equally as powerful. It's an interesting weapon to say the least, many people call it overpowered until they've actually used it, and realize how it works, and how to counter it.
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
How do you install the quake hitsounds?
Blackpanfa 1 month ago
Teehee, I remember when you changed your name to asshole. I looked on my buddy list (I'm Spysaac, AKA Commandifier Spysaac Sandvic XIV) and saw your name. I was curious as to why you did that. Now it all makes sense.... :D
IsaaCrafter 1 month ago
Around 5:35 you started shooting a pyro you thought was a spy. But I knew he was not a spy before you did. So look at me. Now back at the screen. Now back to me. What am I holding? This is a gun. Now back to your screen. That pyro there is calling for medic. Now back to me. What am I doing? I'm looking at the bottom of the screen. Now look back at the screen. What do you see? A blue team member calling for medic in the chat. That's right kids, check your chat to find spies!
IsaaCrafter 1 month ago
@IsaaCrafter
I'm pretty paranoid of Spies, I oughta be since I play one so much.
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
Haha, the second I saw the video description, I thought "Oh god this is going to be complete utter pwnage. That hypocrite!" then I realized that I can be an asshole on tf2 as well sometimes and then I was all... This calls for a Spy-five!
IsaaCrafter 1 month ago
Some pyros i know love the spycicle. They love being able to destroy a spys chainstab with ease
mufffcabbage 1 month ago
@mufffcabbage
It's very much a love it or hate it weapon
I know Spies who love it for the afterburn immunity, and I know some who hate it for the 15 seconds without a knife.
I know Pyros who hate the fact that it makes the Spy's escape easier, and I know some who love that it makes them knife less, and incapable of stabbing any of their allies, or pulling a trick stab on them.
It's an item that needs more time I think, give it another 6 months and I bet it'll be considered a side grade.
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
What's that mod that shows you how well people on the other team played?
razornfs123 1 month ago
still dont understand why people like the spycicle so much (or think its op or w/e). If you wanna kill a pyro, you are immediately limiting yourself to using the gun, which you could quite easily do out of flamethrower range anyway. Sure the times when there isn't a pyro on the other team, means its a straight upgrade, but as soon as theres a pyro around, i'd take the standard knife anyday. and Wats you utter shitter for using enforcer blah blah blah (thought this would get liked more with that)
FainTx2 1 month ago
@FainTx2
I'm Asshole, your argument is invalid
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
@watsyurdeal :((( you're still shit!! mwahahahah!
FainTx2 1 month ago
@FainTx2
Aw....you seem mad?
U mad bro?
watsyurdeal 1 month ago 3
@watsyurdeal oh all the time. Cant get enough of raging! You should try it some time...oh wait :D
FainTx2 1 month ago
@FainTx2
lolololol
Touche
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
Awesome! perfect!
lefuedol 1 month ago
I don't give a fuck for Enforcer being OP, since other classes have their OP shit too.
Now, I just hate the spy cicle, it's too much of a "hey a spy is near here, i know it, becaus I just saw a frozen person..."
Since, I have astigmatism, and my Contact Lens are not ready yet, I can't play amby, so... derp.
NyygeL 1 month ago
@NyygeL
slpngsUn 1 month ago
The only argument I have against nerfing this is, on a pub ctf map, the impossible to break Pomson-Homewrecker nests. If the other team wants to play dirty, you can just play dirtier. =P
Oathblivion 1 month ago
Personally I find the Spy-cicle to pretty much be a downgrade. The silent killer is made redundant by the almost-as-loud not to mention distinctive freezing noise. And the Pyro protection is pretty useless most of the time, as a good Pyro will just airblast you against a wall and then rape you with their secondary, or even just wait until your fire-invulnerability runs out.
DoubleGale 1 month ago
Spy-cicle did give spy two more seconds to fight against pyro, that's a useful lesson and, amby's spread recovery time is 0.95 sec, which is shorter than any other guns' which is 1.25 sec. That's why you love amby. It would be better aiming at body with other guns to compensate for spread firing in my opinion.
arnolder 1 month ago
HOW DARE YOU
YOU SHAME US
ThatsEvenMoreCrap 1 month ago
Thank god, enforcer gets drawback on TF2 beta, hopefully it will be on TF2 which is:
Enforcer stats changed to:
0.5 increased decloak time
Unable to see enemy health
I hate enforcer for being overpowered.
Also liberty launcher could be nerfed too :/
darkerxXx 1 month ago
@darkerxXx LL doesn't need a nerf since it's already a bad launcher to begin with. I use stock all the time over that p.o.s. Only noobs might think it's good but in the long run it won't be as beneficial to a soldier as a 4th rocket.
XC11301991 1 month ago
@XC11301991 i'm fond to pyros you know. :D
darkerxXx 1 month ago
@darkerxXx Then learn to reflect? Stay at mid range and reflect all his rockets back at him and make him eat mini crits. You can pepper on some shotgun pellets while you do this as well.
XC11301991 1 month ago
@darkerxXx It did too little on nerfing the Enforcer
since u can still run around trying to shoot full health players to death and will still get away with the Dead Ringer
The proper nerf is as watsyurdeal said before,
unable to change weapon, disguise or cloak whenever u take out the enforcer unless u kill someone.
Thats mean, if some shitty spies try to initiate fights with that thing without thinking, they will get punished by cant DR. May be should + cant see enemy health too
kingkongtiger 1 month ago
That Interests guy is such a jerk! What a total ass... >>
InterestsAndTodes 1 month ago
@InterestsAndTodes
Hey, I did nothing but give you good rep, so don't even go there. =P
watsyurdeal 1 month ago
Even when playing as an asshole you still have some interesting things to show us. :P
Wolfraham 1 month ago
The enforcer's bullet doesn't go exactly where you aim.
Jamilotc 1 month ago
@Jamilotc First bullet of all hitscan weapons always goes where you aim, then the following bullets have spread applied til you allow cooldown.
XC11301991 1 month ago
@XC11301991 You know that circle hat is the minigun crosshair? All spie's revolvers but the ambassador has that circle spread. It's used in other source games too like the AK-47 in CS:S.
Jamilotc 1 month ago
@Jamilotc Minigun as well, first bullet that comes out is where you aim. This also goes for shotguns, 1 pellet goes down the middle. Amby does not have as big of a spread as the other revolvers but it does have spread after first shot.
XC11301991 1 month ago
Thanks for the flow of videos lately!
DeltaForce1522 1 month ago 3
@DeltaForce1522
I try =)
watsyurdeal 1 month ago 4
@watsyurdeal ;D
sonik121 1 month ago