@x3jShiNx3 you don't need to keep clicking s. Simply get a lurker to attack an enemy building that's in a fog of war, and it wont' attack anything near it.
Allying your opponent (but not allying victory) is a legitimate strategy. However, the point here was that he scouted with that marine; if the Zergling hadn't retaliated, his opponent might of saw this coming
Recommended Uses * Hold Overlord - standard method. * Order the burrowed Lurker to attack an enemy building in the fog of war.
Not recommended * Spamming the stop command - It's inefficient and doesn't guarantee the Lurker won't attack. * Ally your enemy - This method is banned in competitive play, similar to allied Mines.
The first two are both valid ways of accomplishing this. This is directly from Team Liquid's site.
see... the thing savior did was ally his enemy and used "A" attack button on that marine with zergling and the lurkers above the hill. then when he saw the marines on top of the marines, BOOM UnALLY! then marines die! nyahaha!
Hitting S requires that you sitting there and stop your units repeatedly whereas hold with another unit simply just freezes the lurker's attack. Hitting S is great except for the fact that if you're wasting your time hitting S for a few seconds, you missed out on a good deal of macro or something else you should be doing.
Hold position with another unit is far more efficient because that way you don't have to sit there hitting S until the other units get close enough to surprise. Keep the lurkers hotkeyed and Hold position with another unit, then A-click with the lurkers once you see the units move close on the minimap or whatever. Use the time you'd waste hitting S repeatedly to macro.
@Jst0911 So, what you're saying is that...using mines that, logically, should be perfectly capable of holding fire granted the technology of the Starcraft universe, to hold fire SHOULD be a disqualification, while forcing a wild animal that's in a state of constant bloodlust to hold fire is a totally legitimate tactic?
The problem is that it's using meta-game functions to affect in-game outcomes. It'd be like if you were able to somehow wring an advantage out of tournament situation by adjusting your graphics options at the right time. Stop/hold lurkers have been considered borderline pretty much since the technique was discovered. They're almost always allowed, but many players disagree with that decision, because they're essentially relying on a glitch to achieve the hold status.
I think they reason they typically allowed Hold Lurkers, though, is that it was correcting something that many saw as an oversight by Blizzard. I'm not sure whether Bliz ever gave any official word on it, but Lurkers were weird because they didn't, IIRC, have a Hold function like most other units. This was likely just because they have to be burrowed to attack anyway, and Bliz didn't foresee that players would want to have them hold fire for the right moment, as well.
I think they reason they typically allowed Hold Lurkers, though, is that it was correcting something that many saw as an oversight by Blizzard. I'm not sure whether Bliz ever gave any official word on it, but Lurkers were weird because they didn't, IIRC, have a Hold function like most other units. This was likely just because they have to be burrowed to attack anyway, and Bliz didn't foresee that players would want to have them hold fire for the right moment, as well.
That's not mashing the S key, that's having the lurkers attack an allied unit outside of range. Mashing the S key would prevent further micromanagement from happening.
actually its called hold position lurkers. You group the lurkers with another unit and put them on hold position and the lurkers won't attack and when you want them to attack you take them off hold position.
Savior of zerg
again07daumstarlegue 3 months ago
try it with siege tanks
RokushoKiRa 8 months ago
You gotta luv the face at the end.. LOL
hobbang2 10 months ago
Hold lurker does not equal spamming stop >_>
GaleStream 11 months ago
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CarrionSpirit 11 months ago
진짜 sick
songj7 11 months ago
"oooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" :O
Drummer11121 1 year ago
마재윤 안녕..
sctivcrmnfeconicu430 1 year ago
Wow Korea is Starcraft heaven lol :D
Xrosder 1 year ago
its spam Stop button.
WaynE412 1 year ago
吵死人了~臭韓狗
sn1020 1 year ago
i bet Savior was clicking S like a crazy mofo
x3jShiNx3 1 year ago
@x3jShiNx3 you don't need to keep clicking s. Simply get a lurker to attack an enemy building that's in a fog of war, and it wont' attack anything near it.
brainwasher9876 1 year ago 2
i recall watching this years ago...still sexy to see....come check out some starcraft2 shit in my channel...enjoy
Hazedream 1 year ago
how do not make those things attack? i thought they were auto ?
AJwentyoyoyoyo 1 year ago
@AJwentyoyoyoyo u ally the opponent.
blo0magic 1 year ago
@AJwentyoyoyoyo you group lurkers with overlord, press hold position. when u want to attack, choose lurkers and simply click stop.
Mun885 1 year ago
@AJwentyoyoyoyo spam hold position
PenileFracture 1 year ago
ITS A TRAP!
Quote3232 1 year ago 12
lol, just spam the hold position button
oDrSofto 1 year ago
@oDrSofto
Actually i think you have to spam STOP, since ranged units WILL attack even if they hold their position.
pedrotrberaldo 1 year ago
Allying your opponent (but not allying victory) is a legitimate strategy. However, the point here was that he scouted with that marine; if the Zergling hadn't retaliated, his opponent might of saw this coming
Satoshiji 1 year ago
FANTASTIC !!!!!
rm04ever 1 year ago
does that mean he invented it?
sinekonata 1 year ago
awesome
dillon4321 1 year ago
AMAZING!
cjzamora1992 1 year ago
rip gosu savior...
lightsinthesky246 1 year ago
@lightsinthesky246 Its a shame he got disqualified for loosing on purpose on some gambling sites.
ironfrost312 1 year ago
@lightsinthesky246 Why is he dead? :S
profaa927 1 year ago
Thats how you fucking do it. Ye babby suck my nuts and give me a hamberger.
chrstilen5 2 years ago
so many noobs comment this vid -_-
Calvin040 2 years ago 9
That was so sick.He allowed other 2 lurkers to attack to give guy false impression of safety haha.
Classic
ModeLTU 2 years ago
Just to clarify: when you select a units of different kinds they can share their commands.
For "Lurker Hold" you select Lurkers with Overlords and then Hold them. Works perfect.
Just like that you can make your Workers Patrol territory.
Wenonimus 2 years ago 4
Recommended Uses * Hold Overlord - standard method. * Order the burrowed Lurker to attack an enemy building in the fog of war.
Not recommended * Spamming the stop command - It's inefficient and doesn't guarantee the Lurker won't attack. * Ally your enemy - This method is banned in competitive play, similar to allied Mines.
The first two are both valid ways of accomplishing this. This is directly from Team Liquid's site.
Betolicious42 2 years ago 5
Hey, I think you can right click an enemy building thats far away, then, when enemies are close, select ''attack'' around it.
sorajsm 2 years ago
huh? u mean u need to group ur lurkers with an ovi and right click on a building in the fog and lurks wont attack?
infestedzerg99 1 year ago
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He spammed stop or probaly hold.God you guys are seriously fucking idiots.
Halfpastnoob 2 years ago
probably hold???
IDIOT !!
don2x8 2 years ago 3
no allying or unallying u dumbasses. he used one of the many methods described below. i hope u get this. and that i dont sound like a jackass.
wasdzxc12345 2 years ago
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hmmm how bout ally ur enemy and then unally them when they're close to the lurkers lol NOOBS!
wpinoyfcw 2 years ago
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see... the thing savior did was ally his enemy and used "A" attack button on that marine with zergling and the lurkers above the hill. then when he saw the marines on top of the marines, BOOM UnALLY! then marines die! nyahaha!
wpinoyfcw 2 years ago
wrong.. read ckyisyourfuture reply below.
jiok2003 2 years ago
Wow.... What a Starcraft Pro with extensive knowledge of this game... Way to go dude, L-O-fucking-L. What a champ.
IT'S CALLED STOP LURKERS YOU DUMBASS, YOU GROUP LURKER WITH AN OVERLORD AND 'STOP'
fenicsisthebest 2 years ago
cuz thats illegal retard
JAFrk 2 years ago 2
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that's not allowed in pro championships you noob
Frankiezapp 2 years ago
you're not allowed to ally and unally
purepwnage007 2 years ago 2
lol u don't need to hit s to stop lurkers from attacking. u can make lurkers target a enemy building that is in fog and it will not attack
IcingKSW 2 years ago 2
isnt there another way to do stop lurkers w/ an ovy? Although the method you stated above is just as affective
JAFrk 2 years ago
ma bonjwa
sandiegosuperbowl 2 years ago 2
how this? learn me plz -.-
MashaBiseX 2 years ago
group your lurkers with another unit and hold position until you want them to attack, then just hit a
ckyisyourfuture 2 years ago
or s
matsis01 2 years ago
Hitting S requires that you sitting there and stop your units repeatedly whereas hold with another unit simply just freezes the lurker's attack. Hitting S is great except for the fact that if you're wasting your time hitting S for a few seconds, you missed out on a good deal of macro or something else you should be doing.
ckyisyourfuture 2 years ago
i think he meant to hit S instead of A once your lurkers are held.
knighttwentyk 2 years ago
No, not "or S".
Why the hell would you waste time spamming S when group hold is infinitely better?
zippo718 2 years ago
or tell ur lurkers to attck a building thts in the fog of war
cornballbeast 2 years ago
spam the stop button... hence stop lurkers
potatoman32323 2 years ago
Hold position with another unit is far more efficient because that way you don't have to sit there hitting S until the other units get close enough to surprise. Keep the lurkers hotkeyed and Hold position with another unit, then A-click with the lurkers once you see the units move close on the minimap or whatever. Use the time you'd waste hitting S repeatedly to macro.
ckyisyourfuture 2 years ago 2
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Insane micro. You have to hit S while microing your other units normally so it doesn't seem strange... lol
dorkydorkdork 2 years ago
WOW IM GONNA TRY THAT!!!!
andychatsab 2 years ago
sick move
hephronss 2 years ago
lmao just awsome..
2MinuteSoup 2 years ago
i loled.
brainwasher9876 2 years ago 2
God dam! the U.S. needs to host these games too man...i want to see colored people go at it with each other..
gooddevilboy 3 years ago
coloured? as in black ppl?
MightyFire 2 years ago
WELL DUH lol
Davie557 2 years ago
colored people? Are you from the KKK by any chance?^^
HumanStrategy 2 years ago
AMAZING !!! why do pro gamers dont use that trick any more ?
MaciejJerzyk 3 years ago 3
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It's actually illegal sometimes.
Akumasama 3 years ago
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illegal to stop lurkers...huh??
LankyScoot 2 years ago
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In some tournaments, being caught using the stop lurker trick is ground for disqualification.
Akumasama 2 years ago
negative. allied mines is disqualification because allying ur opponent goes against the SC premise. stop lurks is a strategy while in-game
Jst0911 2 years ago 41
@Jst0911 So, what you're saying is that...using mines that, logically, should be perfectly capable of holding fire granted the technology of the Starcraft universe, to hold fire SHOULD be a disqualification, while forcing a wild animal that's in a state of constant bloodlust to hold fire is a totally legitimate tactic?
iammishahearmeroar 9 months ago
@iammishahearmeroar yeah and alien people can control your mind and can make blue lighting. your argument is invalid.
aimthailaxu 9 months ago
@aimthailaxu ...How so? Okay, it's sci-fi. And? That proves my point even more.
iammishahearmeroar 9 months ago
@iammishahearmeroar
The problem is that it's using meta-game functions to affect in-game outcomes. It'd be like if you were able to somehow wring an advantage out of tournament situation by adjusting your graphics options at the right time. Stop/hold lurkers have been considered borderline pretty much since the technique was discovered. They're almost always allowed, but many players disagree with that decision, because they're essentially relying on a glitch to achieve the hold status.
antsache 4 months ago
@iammishahearmeroar
I think they reason they typically allowed Hold Lurkers, though, is that it was correcting something that many saw as an oversight by Blizzard. I'm not sure whether Bliz ever gave any official word on it, but Lurkers were weird because they didn't, IIRC, have a Hold function like most other units. This was likely just because they have to be burrowed to attack anyway, and Bliz didn't foresee that players would want to have them hold fire for the right moment, as well.
antsache 4 months ago
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@iammishahearmeroar
I think they reason they typically allowed Hold Lurkers, though, is that it was correcting something that many saw as an oversight by Blizzard. I'm not sure whether Bliz ever gave any official word on it, but Lurkers were weird because they didn't, IIRC, have a Hold function like most other units. This was likely just because they have to be burrowed to attack anyway, and Bliz didn't foresee that players would want to have them hold fire for the right moment, as well.
antsache 4 months ago
@Jst0911 It got banned when Slayers used allied mines in a game
Foxhound1112 5 months ago
@Jst0911 stupid rule :|
llVIU 5 months ago
It is never illegal is ANY tournament to use hold lurkers.
FabledIntegral 2 years ago 2
its very legal. You're completely wrong
woofantango123 2 years ago 3
MJY 2009 is here!
bigmouthstrikespain 3 years ago
Its actually TheSTC Last i checked
ArbbbbSC 3 years ago
You are correct, I was confused about the Terrans on STX.
wontonsoup89 3 years ago
anyone knows who was the terran?
Nacho9001 3 years ago
so much pwn
locopuyo 3 years ago
this is why savior is great
he was patient, most gamers would have released at the first group, not seeing that there would be a better chance to get more kills.
sandiegosuperbowl 3 years ago
ahah fuckin' hilarious seriously
HumanStrategy 3 years ago 2
EPIC
CareBear8847 3 years ago 3
That's not mashing the S key, that's having the lurkers attack an allied unit outside of range. Mashing the S key would prevent further micromanagement from happening.
LarryLaffer90 3 years ago 4
actually its called hold position lurkers. You group the lurkers with another unit and put them on hold position and the lurkers won't attack and when you want them to attack you take them off hold position.
illmatic7 3 years ago 2
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if zerg can s lurks then ter should be allowed to allied mines
caesarofrome2002 3 years ago
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lurker plus "S" key = awesomeness
island47 3 years ago
what the fuck
babyshaker90210 3 years ago 2
christ......................
AznLeeman 4 years ago
i would love to see terran face after that... gg insta
JoGoArm 4 years ago 7
SICK!!!
quigonjinntte 4 years ago 2
thats insta gg right there
kirbyman1kanden7pf 4 years ago 3
funny, my thoughts exactly
switchtechnique 4 years ago
Whoa! I wanna see the face of savior's opponent after this was done!:-D
Shartallon 4 years ago 25
@Shartallon his opponent was TheStC.
Mun885 8 months ago
!!!!!!
gladtobemyself 4 years ago
holy fuck
this is dope!!!!
savior + july zerg ftw!
nobonesar 4 years ago
pimp
imperat 4 years ago
lol just type OWNT in the game
Wakalord 4 years ago
HAHHAA totally rogued!
JelloJay 4 years ago
SICK!!!
videogames9 4 years ago
SICK!!!
iplayrtsgames 4 years ago