Mikkelravn - please do not pass on incorrect information like this... where to start...
1. Rappelling does NOT CAUSE DEATH. Screwing up causes death, and sometimes climbers do that while rappelling.
2. Aluminum and steel are a wonderful metals. They do not micro-crack, that is mistaking ductile aluminum and steel for brittle ceramics. Drop Aluminum climbing stuff as far as you want - no hidden damage is created. So STOP PASSING ON THIS BIT OF BS. Thank you.
I totally disagree with everyones harsh skepticism and dogmatic fear of rappeling..."it's the most dangerous aspect of climbing....". SOOOOOOOOOO untrue, and you all know it !!! If you study and train in your climbing skills, you absolutely know the most dangerous thing is a poor set up, not understanding every aspect of your gear.....now, to be fair, the one thing this guy did forget was a rope sleeve.
But what is the application of this technique anyway? I would assume that it is intended for cases where a doubled rope is too short, e.g. if you've got a 60 m rope and there is in excess of 30 m to the next belay. However, having 30 m+ of rope weighing down the bungee cord will make it impossible to release the fifi anyway, particularly when it's drenched in water (this technique is meant for canyoning, I guess). Interesting in theory, impractical and dangerous in practice
@BatmanProject777 But what is the application of this technique anyway? I would assume that it is intended for cases where a doubled rope is too short, e.g. if you've got a 60 m rope and there is in excess of 30 m to the next belay. However, having 30 m+ of rope weighing down the bungee cord will make it impossible to release the fifi anyway, particularly when it's drenched in water (this technique is meant for canyoning, I guess). Interesting in theory, impractical and dangerous in practice.
@BatmanProject777 Hey, I didn't mean that that rappeling as such is dangerous, in fact it is perfectly safe when executed correctly. But: In mountaineering and climbing, rappelling does cause many deaths, as it is usually done when descending after a long climb, meaning that exhaustion cause well trained climbers to rappel to their death. In these cases, you need a foolproof system, not something like this.
Tanks for your coments, this fifi hook ia a modified versión of the aluminium gear, its a steel fifi hook, this device is for a single use in case of emergency, use this one time and the device will retired from service...
Rappeling off a fifi hook? Please don't do this... AND: aluminium gear that has been subjected to impacts onto rock from heights above two meters is to be immediately retired from service - how well does your fifi hook stand up to hitting the deck from great heights? Rappeling is the number one cause of deaths in climbing, this technique is not going make the stats better :(
@mikkelravn I'd thing if a hook is placed, not on a crack, but over something that the hook wraps around, when you pull the attached rope, from the bottom, no matter where ya pull, the hook rotates, and can't unhook. If you mean dangerous in terms of using such a small piece of metal, I agree totally, unless you know it to be of extreme strength.
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rfs010203 1 month ago
Mikkelravn - please do not pass on incorrect information like this... where to start...
1. Rappelling does NOT CAUSE DEATH. Screwing up causes death, and sometimes climbers do that while rappelling.
2. Aluminum and steel are a wonderful metals. They do not micro-crack, that is mistaking ductile aluminum and steel for brittle ceramics. Drop Aluminum climbing stuff as far as you want - no hidden damage is created. So STOP PASSING ON THIS BIT OF BS. Thank you.
3. Fifi hooks are strong...
ratagonia 9 months ago
Esse é o famoso rapel foda-se.......
maurochiara 1 year ago
I totally disagree with everyones harsh skepticism and dogmatic fear of rappeling..."it's the most dangerous aspect of climbing....". SOOOOOOOOOO untrue, and you all know it !!! If you study and train in your climbing skills, you absolutely know the most dangerous thing is a poor set up, not understanding every aspect of your gear.....now, to be fair, the one thing this guy did forget was a rope sleeve.
BatmanProject777 1 year ago
@BatmanProject777
But what is the application of this technique anyway? I would assume that it is intended for cases where a doubled rope is too short, e.g. if you've got a 60 m rope and there is in excess of 30 m to the next belay. However, having 30 m+ of rope weighing down the bungee cord will make it impossible to release the fifi anyway, particularly when it's drenched in water (this technique is meant for canyoning, I guess). Interesting in theory, impractical and dangerous in practice
mikkelravn 1 year ago
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@BatmanProject777 But what is the application of this technique anyway? I would assume that it is intended for cases where a doubled rope is too short, e.g. if you've got a 60 m rope and there is in excess of 30 m to the next belay. However, having 30 m+ of rope weighing down the bungee cord will make it impossible to release the fifi anyway, particularly when it's drenched in water (this technique is meant for canyoning, I guess). Interesting in theory, impractical and dangerous in practice.
mikkelravn 1 year ago
@BatmanProject777 Hey, I didn't mean that that rappeling as such is dangerous, in fact it is perfectly safe when executed correctly. But: In mountaineering and climbing, rappelling does cause many deaths, as it is usually done when descending after a long climb, meaning that exhaustion cause well trained climbers to rappel to their death. In these cases, you need a foolproof system, not something like this.
mikkelravn 1 year ago
Tanks for your coments, this fifi hook ia a modified versión of the aluminium gear, its a steel fifi hook, this device is for a single use in case of emergency, use this one time and the device will retired from service...
desafiodebarrancos 1 year ago
Rappeling off a fifi hook? Please don't do this... AND: aluminium gear that has been subjected to impacts onto rock from heights above two meters is to be immediately retired from service - how well does your fifi hook stand up to hitting the deck from great heights? Rappeling is the number one cause of deaths in climbing, this technique is not going make the stats better :(
mikkelravn 1 year ago
@mikkelravn I'd thing if a hook is placed, not on a crack, but over something that the hook wraps around, when you pull the attached rope, from the bottom, no matter where ya pull, the hook rotates, and can't unhook. If you mean dangerous in terms of using such a small piece of metal, I agree totally, unless you know it to be of extreme strength.
BatmanProject777 1 year ago
its sooooo cooool and soooo fXXking dangerous! u must sure tension is always act on the rope , if you hit any bump on the way down , it may kill you!
macmac969 1 year ago
@macmac969
i love your other design but not this one
macmac969 1 year ago
buena tecnica aunque arriesgada para inesperto gracias por los tutoriale son muy bueno desde españa un saludo
kunfuteka 1 year ago 2
Bullshit! Much to dangerous!
007Bobo007 2 years ago 2
ummm creative. I guess. if I had to get down and could not double rope rap......
aikidophreak 2 years ago 2
That is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Please don't land on me
mrp72 2 years ago 2
creative. but....sketch?
raorroar 2 years ago 2
yipes
mtnkid85 2 years ago
Yeah!! a very cool but dangerous device!
desafiodebarrancos 2 years ago
That is a very cool rappelling device, Pepe.
ACAcanyoneering 2 years ago