We Muslims have right to have Kaliph its nothing extremist or terrorist on it! The Christans got also their Pope! We have a right on a Kaliph and we will get one back and im ready to give my blood for it!!!
Well that is one point of view that is widely shared. The Ottoman leadership contemplated if they remained neutral, after WWI the Western empires would simply target them next as they were the last hurdle to knock over and make way for European colonization of N. Africa and the Middle East.
Brother A2Kaid, please adjust the text at 7:02. It says that there were Kurdish rebels against the Ottomans. This is not true as i explaines in my previous comment 2 months ago. Please honor the thousands of Kurds who fell "Sahit" against the Crusaders in WW1.
Your right in saying there were Kurds who fought for the Ottoman Empire. Though, weren't there Kurds who sought separatism and their own state after WWI. Just like the Arabs and Armenians all sought to carve a piece out of the Ottoman Empire. Am I wrong? If so please provide your evidence.
Brother there where no Kurds who sought seperatism. Simply because there was no reason for it. The Kurds in the region had autonomy from the Ottoman Empire for about 600 years. This was there reward for remaining loyal to the empire through centuries and providing troops for the Jihads. Historical proof lies in the letter from Caliph Sultan Suleyman Kanuni in his letter to King Philip of France and in the Seref-name written by Seref Han.
Okay let me do further research regarding this issue. I appreciate the information you have shared with me. Once I'm finished further researching I will then decide to change the text if it is historically inaccurate. This is one of the great things about comments, is if there is a historical inaccuracy or disagreement we can discuss this and correct any mistakes.
He refers to the autonomy of a series of regions, including Kurdistan. In the Seref-name they write that the Kurdish tribes of Beskani,Talos and Dandar provided troops for the conquest of Tabriz and Bagdad. This is historical documented evidence about the good relations between the Ottoman empire and the Kurds. In WW1 as, i mentioned in my previous comments , the uprising in the occupied Turkey started in the Kurdish regions. There is not a single evidence that the Kurdish tribes
revolted against the Ottoman Empire. The uprising in the region of Urfa, Maras and Antep against the French were Kurdish people. In the mountains of Sarikamis 900000 soldiers froze to death against the Russians. Who where this people? Armenian gangs attacked villages in the east of Turkey and killed and raped thousands of people. Who where these people who where killed? Chinees? They were Kurdish. Please explain to me who those Kurdish tribes or people where who sought a own State?
I have given you detailed historical and documanteded evidence. Please react with detailed historical and documanted evidence. If you dont have it please remove the requested text about Kurds. One of the greatest sin in the Islam is allegation to someone wtihout proof. You are now allegating a whole people with one of the most shamefull thing. Betray to there Faith and country. Please remove.
Where have you given me detailed historical evidence? I did not allege a "whole" people betrayed the Ottomans. Though there were some Kurdish separatist who sought their own state just like some Armenian groups after WWI. This is a fact. I didn't say the entire Kurdish community opposed the Ottomans.
My whole comments are full of evidence. Will you then provide evidence of one Kurd who fought against the Ottomans. Please, just give me one evidence. Just one! To support the so called fact of yours.
Comments are not evidence, if you have a source or link provide one. Learn about the Bedir Khan uprising of 1843, Kurdish separatist groups have tried multiple times to separate from the Ottomans and establish their own Kurdish state. They tried again after WWI but the Ottomans manage to hold on.
Continued existence of the Turkish state, between the years 1299-1923. Eastern Europe, Southwest Asia and North Africa, and expanded its territory until the 16th century, the most powerful empire the world has become.
All the wars in the world are evil .. why should a human kill another ?, becouse someone want some ground ... let them get happy with there ground ... we wont live 4 ever anyways...
@dirtykeskin It's not about ground. It's about belief and earning your rights. Muslims fight for honor, for their family, for their country. We fight to take your country and make you muslim. We go after the prophet muhammed's foot prints, not some joke around guy :)
@Seroosh4fun If by "we" you are content for us to infer you belong with the urban social misfits in search of an identity that prefer to wallow in the hatred and resentment stirred up by political trouble makers for their own ends and insult the prophet by misinterpreting the Koran, then the joke is on you not the Prophet: at least take the trouble to learn a little about the life of the Prophet and history of Islamic culture, rather than spout such shallow uneducated nonsense :-)
it never exists kurdish rebels the kurds had fight against the russians and armenians on our side and stop saying turks, nothing on the ottoman empire was turkish the sultans after bayezid II were all sons of not turks and the government and the elite infantry were janissaries, muslimized people from balcan.
Lawrence wasn't an "ineffectual sideshow" he helped fomen and lead the Arab rebellion, he organized attacks on the Hijaz railroad cutting off Ottoman supply route into the Arabian peninsula, sporadic attacks on Ottoman troops tieing down weak pockets of Ottoman soldiers. He helped in the British capture of Damascus. Did other critical things as well with the help of the Arab nationalist and tribes. These are not ineffectual.
@A2Kaid I agree, I don't think it would have been feezable for a British victory in Syria/Jordan/Iraq without the help of the Arabs, the Ottomans on the otherhand completely missed the any chance of using their religions to unite an Islamic front against the British.
Well if there was any chance at all I know the Arabs and Turks had a strained relationship, but I dont really know to what extent.
Ottoman Empire, didn't miss the chance to unite the people under Islam. In fact, Ottoman Empire sent envoys to Arab tribes to reassure loyalty and told them to remain loyal to the Empire. The Arab nationalist betrayed the Ottomans, Islam or no Islam. They had their own objectives. The Ottoman Sultan did try to unite the Muslims, he even declared an official "Jihad".
I know the history surrounding the Ottoman empire in WWI, more than you so don't lecture me. You are providing a more textbook pc version of that history. The Ottoman empire particularly the Minister of War Enver Pasha felt compelled to ally with Germany as they felt after WWI the Allied powers would simply target them next. Therefore by aligning with Germany they receive weaponry, training by German officers, etc. So when WWI did start Ottoman empire overtly struck first at a Russian harbor.
I think if the Arab tribes had remained loyal and not have revolted and joined the British, the Ottoman Empire would have been far more secure in the soft under-belly of Arabia. Ottoman Empire was most weak in Arabia and the British knew that hence exploited differences. It would have been difficult for the British to achieve their war objects to take Damascus, Baghdad, destroy the Hejaz railway (Arab rebels and Lawrence), Jerusalem, and other towns.
To give you a clear answer. I think yes the Ottoman Empire could have survived, but question is to what extent? Remember the Ottoman Empire was not completely destroyed but was badly damaged and lost majors to Imperial Western powers. It was reduced to Ankara and central part of Anatolia. It could have survived, the other problem is Mustafa Kemal abolished the Caliphate, precisely because of nationalism and mistrust of the Arabs.
Errr...some grave errors in the history recited here. Suggest that you review the fact that the Ottoman Empire was dragged into conflict by their Entente with Germany, as was Austria, UK with France etc. With the German invasion of Belgium, the stale corrupt Ottoman Empire were forced into war and in the Middle East had their backsides kicked out of Egypt, Palestine and Syria by the Australian Light Horse. Lawrence was an ineffectual sideshow full of romance and no substance. Can we review?
I tell you something we are the grandsons of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE and we are proud to be a TÜRK nobody can scare us with an atomic bomb and no country in the world have the balls to attac us with nuclear weapos, no one trust me.
@RusPrideAK Let us build a new union. A more powerful union than the Ottoman Empire. let us be one and speak with one voice. Lets all move as one. Let us not allow the west to divide us any longer. This is how they keep us weak and powerless. Let us be one again. I am a Turk, but im not speaking of a Turkish Empire. We all have to stand together as equals. Put aside our petty differences and look at the bigger picture. Just imagine the possibilities. The possibilities are endless!!
@tracer1024 1. It took 900 years for the ottoman empire to succesfully capture about 10-20 countries. You think we are going to expand through out what? Killing civillians and thinking small in 4-5 years? You think that's to much? Dude, think about it.. 900 years be cause 1 sultan who was Osman Gazi who signed a contract with the brotherhood of the selcuks and released all his bonds with his brothers. He formed his own people who people call "Ottoman" But its really "Osmanli Devleti" Wikipedia.
@Seroosh4fun What the hell are you on about? The Turks do not need to expand and capture. The Middle Eastern Union is being formed by the people and the region. This union will take place without having to fight. This isn't a Ottoman Empire, but a Muslim Empire
...until the end.. "the ottomans will wage their final jihad?" It seems like you are very nationalistic but nationalism was the beginning of the destruction of the Muslim world. I would advise that we return the the Quran and Sunnah and realize all of our answers lie right in front of us.
Remember how Great Britain & Turkey were allies for years before WW1. but Great Britain did a mistake when took Egipt (to secure the Suez Canal) and confiscated those 2 Turkish Battleships. In a very smart move Germany sold other 2 more little warships to already infuriated Turkey. Now Turkey did a BIG MISTAKE in went to WWI in the side of the Central Powers, instead of a wise policy of Neutrality, like she did in WW2. If BOTH sides avoided those respectives 2 mistakes, the WAR WAS IMPOSSIBLE.
The Ottomans were the biggest mockery, an excuse of an empire in history. They were brutal and savage beasts, and they were utterly destroyed in WW1. Weak and useless.
@buasasdas I am saying that the Ottoman Empire was a weak and pathetic empire that constantly embarrassed itself. In the Crimean war for example it had real powers like France and Britain stamping all over it's territory to prevent it's crumbling empire falling into Russian hands. When Britain wanted Crotia, they had to hand it over for nothing in return without question. And on top of that, they committed mass genocide and supported slavery. So, fuck the Ottomans.
@TheLiberalKnight Yes I notice you hate the Ottoman Empire, this is precisely what makes you so blind. It is very clear you will never be able to look at this piece of history from a natural standpoint thus it is quite pointless that you discuss your hateful views here.
@KoivuTheHab Don't make me laugh. I have a master of the arts in history in both classical civilization and modern eras too. I hate the Ottomans. How dare you accuse me ignorance. I hate the Ottomans because they were barbaric animals who pailed in comparison to British or French scientists.
@TheLiberalKnight A learned historian going against the grain? I don't think so. You have proven that you have no knowledge of history. I am not interested in talking with someone with biased views like yourself. You can go hate somewhere else, but a piece of advice for you first. Before you decide to discuss the Ottoman Empire a second time, at least read about the subject first. Thanks.
@TheLiberalKnight british and french more barbaric than any nation on earth, arent you lot the same fuckers who raped and kill poor africans, stole their natural resources, use them as slaves in building of e.g blackwall tunnel, do you ever ask yourself why black ppl hate white man, actualy why the whole world hates your nation. i can go any country and proudly say im turkish, can you do the same, if soo how long would you live, i arrest my case.
@orhun20 Lol! Right. The Ottomans still sold women and children slaves openly at the market in the 20th century... 200 YEARS after Britain banned slavery! This is a good joke
"200 years after Britain banned slavery!" Not true fool, besides the premise of argument is a hypocritical one. I hope most Brits aren't as stupid as you are. Still upset about Cannakle? Good.
@TheLiberalKnight get your fact straight mate, the slavery ended in britain in1833 and in the ottoman empire 1908, i own your ass once agian, give up already mate otherwise ima own you as a whole, you'll be my bitch.
@TheLiberalKnight 200 years !!!!! you're a fucking joke, ottoman empire ended slavery 60 years after britain, the countries like spain, portugal, belgium, france and united states were still continued with slavery,
He's Turkish how does that make him a "Middle Eastern Desert Muslim", and if we were to describe you in relative term let's say you illiterate islander limey christian (or atheist whatever you are). Mate you need to learn civility, thanks.
@A2Kaid The only people who I would imagine defending the revolting Ottoman Empire would be islamic fundamentalists, because that empire massacred all non-Muslims like savage animals.
@TheLiberalKnight woh no need for name calling, you scummy, buck tooth, yellow belly, white trash, homeless, liberal fucker, go suck the queens cunt, you dirty inbred fuck
@orhun20 The mightiest empire the world has ever seen? That is a hilarious joke. Have you forgotten the Roman Empire? The French Empire? The Spanish Empire? The British Empire? God, even the Russian Empire was more prestigious than the Ottomans. You had 100 years of glory, and for the next 450 years it was nothing but an embarrassing and humiliating decline!
@TheLiberalKnight its even more hilarious to take critism from a english man who he's "so called army " lost a war against a handfull of scots :))
french army :D dont make me laugh they colonised african villages. spanish stil cant get over soloman, and russians queen katarina was blowing turkish sultan, if you dont believe me do some research :D
Unlike the British and French Empire, the Ottoman Empire fought against formidable enemies, Holy League, Russia, Byzantines (East Roman Empire), Italy, British, French, Polish, and other East European countries with established conventional armies. Meanwhile, look at what France and Britain conquered nations and lands much weaker then they are, mostly Africa, and poor Hindustan after collapse of Mughal Empire. Ottoman Empire 600 years of Conquest!
@A2Kaid Lol, you historically illiterate bafoon. Britain fought the Mughal empire, which was the strongest empire in the world at the time, indeed far stronger than the Ottomans were at the same time. They also fought Napoleonic France... do you really believe your pitiful empire could have stood up to Bonaparte? Oh wait a moment, you did fight him, and you got your asses kicked, you lost your egyptian territories, only a popular rebellion stopped them.
Dear stupid British bastard, the British fought against what was left of the Mughal empire, not the Mughal Empire in it's hey day. You fought against Napoleon that is one war. The Ottomans conquered half of Eastern Europe, controlled the Mediterranean, North Africa, Middle East, Caucuses, etc for hundreds of years. British rule is Hind was barely 200 years. They also defeated the British at Cannakle and Anzac troops. Your a frustrated British bastard.
@TheLiberalKnight like every mighty empires ottoman also had its prime and downfall, there is a saying whatever goes up must come down. Ottoman sultans were the king of kings !!!! most mightiest empire world has ever seen. im proud of being a Turk !!!! our mental strenght and desire to succeed is beyond this world. hopefully we'll RISE againg !!!! there're no boundaries for what we can do!!!!.
The Ottoman empire (Turkiye) defeated the imperial powers in the Wars of Liberation following WWI, so the Turks continued the war and prevailed. Greece was defeated and the imperial powers backing Greece.
@TheLiberalKnight hey, enough from you, you think that your nation, of Britain or america or what ever nation, in the west is better, i will tell you are wrong, those nations you so believe are good, were forged in blood, they caused more death then any nation in the east. you are british, your nation is the worst of the worst.
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Japanese boy, Britain was the first western country to treat you with respect. It would give good if you treated us with respect too.
The Asians and the Europeans are civilized. The middle eastern nations are uncivilized.
@TheLiberalKnight my good friend is turkish, are you call them uncivilised because i will tell you now, they are a better person then you will ever be, and your knowledge of history is abysmal, i am shocked that you would try to make your statements justified, you have no justification, everyone knows that british historians are the biggest liars on this planet, shit your british aren't you, it would explain a lot.
the middle east is a lot more civilised then the UK
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL I am not calling the Turks uncivilized you retard! The Ottomans were not exclusively Turkish!
And yes, middle eastern countries are uncivilized. Turkey is an exception.
Let's have a look here. Britain created the industrial revolution. We are soley responsible for the modern world economy. We have Newton, Darwin, Brunel. We are not only a thousand times more civilized than Turkey, but we are probably the most civilized country on earth.
Yes we and the world saw how civilized you were during the London riots, how civilized you were when you pretended to help an injured lad and actually blindly robbed him, we see how civilized you are after football games, we see how civilized you are at the pubs and late night hours. Shut your mouth you dirty Brit you and your nation are barbarians and the crimes you have perpetrated around the world hopefully one day you will pay for.
@TheLiberalKnight if you tell me that britain is civilized one more time, i fucking smack you in the face boy.
you british starved a country (ireland), you gave drugs to the chinese, just so you could control them. you enslaved almost a entire continent, you slaughtered them (africa). your very own country now isn't even civilized, look at you, you live on the bloody welfare. you invade nations for land and oil, that's not civilized. you think yourself as civilized but in fact your dirty
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Lies! We fucked the Irish, yes. We fucked the Chinese yes, with international support, because the Chinese were isolationists. Enslaved an entire continent- absoloute balls, we had no slaves you idiot. Slaughtered them? This is the funniest bullshit yet. Give me a SINGLE example where Britain slaughtered anyone. ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE.
Britain will be remembered as the new Rome. We are more civilized than those barbaric Muslims in the middle east for sure.
@TheLiberalKnight are you sure, every colony, you cam back with slaves, you were the leaders of slave trading, you slaughtered thousands, in africa, in the pacific, you slaughter the indigenous people of australia, the US, you let ireland to a famine, while you sit and watched, you are not civilized, you barely stopped a war between scotland and england continuing, is that civilised that only 400 years ago, actually less, you unified your nation? is that really civilized? muslims have are better
@TheLiberalKnight also, to justify the UK is even remotely civilized tell me something other then science, because the muslim world was better, and other then your theories which means nothing of being civilised, and a industral revolution that basically was slavery, and a empire that crumbled, and actually what else, you have inventors, so does the middle east, you go to their country claiming to be for a just cause, your the uncivilized bastard that invaded a innocent country, UK =uncivilized
@TheLiberalKnight all the scientist goes far beyond the crusade so off course i don't remember the muslims were the leading brain surgeons, on the leading on science, and before you say another word, you killed every muslim inside Jerusalem, actually you weren't because asia was, more specifically japan since the slave trade never existed. and i remember and before you call them war crimes, i think britain has a lot to answer for the war in 1812
@TheLiberalKnight you what to know why, because japan didn't open the borders until the meiji period, and japan never slavery you idiot, your knowledge of history is the most bias history i have ever read, you have very little to go on, only they the new roman empire, well i can tell you right now, germany was seen as the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, before britain was, you are nothing anymore, i wouldn't call you a empire but a island. and those crimes forcing americans to join the brits or die
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL If you weren't such a down syndrome's idiot, you'd know that the Holy Roman Empire had the most midleading name in history. The Haspburg German Empire had nothing to do with the Roman Empire at all, they merely called themselves Roman.
I wouldn't call Japan an empire any more either. You're just an island, like us.
@TheLiberalKnight yeah i do know that i'm fuckign around, but japan isn't a empire, it's just a better country then the UK will ever be.
so keep on thinking your a almighty empire, your empire is almost no existent, its a 80+ year old queen, the next in line is a vegan, and the next is a nazi.
so in all sense your empire will die, before mine, or any other empire.
You still consider yourself to be an empire... your head of state is an emperor, not a Shogun. Yet we are much bigger than you and have a much larger empire than you.
Do you really think I give a shit when a little Jap comes on youtube and talks down Britain? History speaks for itself. We have, quite simply, made history. We changed the world economy. We will be remembered as the new Rome.
@TheLiberalKnight good god, whata load of crap, it took britain 100's of years, it took japan around 20 years to conquer most of the pacific, weren't gutless to fight a superior power, the first asian nation to defeat a european superpower.
britain made history, but no for being a empire, but being a commerce hub, and the war of independence, thats all, and you changed nothing of the world economy, actually what has the uk down recently except bitch and mown, and also have riots.
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL You've obviously never heard of the industrial revolution, you illiterate pig. Factories are a British invention. Industry is a British invention. Before Britain, everyone used farms as the main source of GDP. You fucking idiot.
British empire = largest in history, 1/3 of world trade, 1/4 of world population, most powerful navy in history.
The Japanese empire... although I have great respect for it... did not set any records.
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Britain = fail... That is what they teach you in Japan? What Japan did? Conquer a few hundred uninhabitated islands in the middle of nowhere and commit suicide instead of fighting. Wow, hears so epic and seems to be the greatest empire ever. You know the greatest empire ever? It was the Roman Empire, PERIOD.
@prdude1234 actually no they don't like all things said, it is opinion. and those few uninhabited islands, were colonies of Britain, and were lost to the Japanese rather quickly especially in some battles, the Japanese used bikes to win, and they did win.
they committed suicide, because it is honourable, to be captured, is actually a shameful, and dishonourable act, but they don't teach you that do they westerner.
an the roman empire, was filled with more civil wars, and bitching then any other
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL was it more honorable to shot yourself 5 minutes after the battle started and kill no one than fight until the last bullet and drop of blood? Which would have served the emperor better? An incompetent bunch of fanitics who dont fight or a group of fanatics willing to give their lives for the empire?
@prdude1234 wtf is this shit, really, in no battle did japan commit suicide after 5 minutes, in most cases, the soliders fought until they were out of ammo, almost most people know that, that the japanese never did crap like that.
they fought to the end, on all the islands, only a few surrended, even read pacific journels of soldier, most were scared, or don't understand why none surrendered.
and no reply to roman empire, or the island thing, just some stupid comment on suicide
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL rofl, scared huh? A real soldier will accept defeat and surrender to fight another day for the empire... I really want you to reply to the Roman Empire comment of mine, to see all the nonsense crap you say.
@prdude1234 and most army soldies no, not to surrender, to fight to the last bullet and man. but i suppose british don't know that.
and during world war two, your not going to fight another day, nor in any wars, you would die in that camp, until the end of the war, what use are you then?
your knowledge of world ward 2 is rather tiny, so is your knowledge of honour, and shame, IT IS DISHONOURABLE TO SURRENDER, IT IS SHAMEFUL TO YOUR FAMILY, IT IS COWARDLY AND SELFISH.
the roman empire is not in the least great, in fact you forgot the persian empire, the egyptian empire, and the Macedonian empire, which were bigger, and much more impressive, considering who they fought. and what they conquered.
so in reality what you just said, have no lean weight to back it up.
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL I LMAO for 5 minutes when I readed your comment. The Egyptian empire? Really? It never conquered more than the Northern part of Nubia and Palestine. The Macedonian one? ROFL! All they did was destroy a glorious empire, then get drunk and fight for three centuries. The Persian empire in fact, was the only empire larger than the Romans of all those who you mentioned. And the Romans conquered Egypt, Gaul, Spain, Carthage, Macedon, Anatolia, Palestine, Thrace, Babylon.......
@prdude1234 the roman empire, was split into civil war, then after that, governed by 3 people, then after that war, war war, after all, the romans, only really fought barbarians, nations, that were ill prepared, the only real threat was carthage,
those empires were far better then roman, espically since it split into two, and the destroyed rather swiftly i might add
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Barbarians ill prepared? Really? Barbarians were the most fanatical warriors in the anciento world. The Romans not only fought barbarians, they fought and defetaed the professional Hellenic Armies, the Carthaganian Armies and the Epirope armies. And it was split in 2 because governing such a large empire was impossible by only one person....
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL So, then stfu and dont say it was one of the least importan Empires. Because the Romans laid the foundation of modern government,architecture,build roads unsurpassed until this century,and their language was the base for modern lagnguages (French,Italian,Spanish,and English) and had the most professional army back then,it can be compared to the modern SAS,Delta,or Spetznas forces.They unified half Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East,no other empire ever did that again.
@prdude1234 at least i have the guts to say i was wrong, where as you act high and mighty, knowing you know shit all about world war two, and japn, that your shit at understanding military morals.
and if your comparing 4 languages as a great achievement, it ain't that great, and english is take from many countries not just latin, it's also greek. wait, wait the middle east?, no i don't think so, and by half of europe do you mean spain half of uk, and france, and greece, thats not half,
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL O,so the Romans never conquered Armenia, Palestine,Anatolia,or Mesopotamia?Wow, what did all the historians smoke o_O Europe,Lets see,Spain,Gaul,Part of Germania, Italy,the Balkans,southern part of Ukraine,Dacia,Plus most of Great Britain. What the Japs did? Conquer 1/4 of China,Korea,Indonesia,and all the uninhabitated islands in the middle of nowhere. And held them for what? Korea for 40 years and the rest for minumum 5 years and maximum 10, the Romans did for 600 years.
@prdude1234 japan controlled every pacific island, they controlled hong kong, macau, about a half of china, all of korea, all of indonesia, india, actually is i remembered correctly it took 14 days, and most of the islands that were with people, had the british on them, and they surrended like you couldn't believe, a army defeats another army that is larger, and has more training (supposedly) no in reality japan had a better army and most advanced navy. you keep telling yourself that buddy
Respond to this video... 14 days? ROFL, The war against China started at 1937 and by 1945 they had only control of 1/4 of it. And yes, some islands were guarded by small garrisons who were unprepared to fight. And if I remember well, the Japs lost their "advanced and mighty" navy in just 1 day. Remember Midway? And the small planes who sunk the unsinkable Yamato? The Japanese army was so mighty they could not defeat the small Australian army in Papua New Guinea... And the battle of Wake Island?
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL The Japanese empire was weak. You took advantage of the fact that Britain was caught up fighting with Germany in order to steal parts of her empire. Then when you attacked the Americans, they beat you fair and square. Now please begone with you. History will not notice the Japanese, but Britain will be remembered as the new Rome, and Spain will be remembered too...
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 14 days? ROFL, The war against China started at 1937 and by 1945 they had only control of 1/4 of it. And yes, some islands were guarded by small garrisons who were unprepared to fight. And if I remember well, the Japs lost their "advanced and mighty" navy in just 1 day. Remember Midway? And the small planes who sunk the unsinkable Yamato? The Japanese army was so mighty they could not defeat the small Australian army in Papua New Guinea... And the battle of Wake Island?
actually i'm finished with this, you and that liberal fuck up, are both retarded, and you went away from the point you idiot, it was about ottoman empire and the british, which was nothing compared. you fuck tard, roman history is just society and wars every now and then, actually for years romans waged wars, and butchered the cities it took
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Like the Japanese, the Japanese who were at civil war for arguably 1000 years. And massacred and estimated 10 million civilians. I still have not found a reason which makes the Japanese Empire more glorious that the Roman or British (Or any empire). Simply because the Japanese won a few battles against a decaying empire does not make them Glorious. Because the Romans won many battles against 5 powerful empires. And the British ruled more than any other empire ever has done.
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Also, it is funny that the Brazilian "Empire" was larger than the Japanese one. And the Brazilians did not even fought real wars to expand their empire xD
and by professional army do you mean a bunch of rapist, pillagers, plebs, criminals and back wash, they weren't a great army, they used tactics that suited open ground warfare, and they can't be compared to special forces, considering the romans were taught to be a unit, not single man, and they were never a good army in the first place, just sound tactics.
and greek architecture was far more superior, and roads wise yes, government (capitalism) nothing good about that
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Never heard of the Roman Legion?And how it was not defeated basically in 700 years(With exceptions about ambushes)?The Roman Legions were extremly disciplined and even in midst of defeat,the soldier still acted with organization and discipline.O,did the Greek build the epic Ostia Port?Or the Thousand of miles of acueducts(Who still worked by the 16 and 17 centruy)or the large Coliseums?Or the thousand miles of Via Consularis(Some still used as highways in several countries)?
@prdude1234 those aqueducts was what killed a lot of romans, it had lead in it, what idiot makes it out of lead?
the greeks created a glorious city Alexandria, and the library at alexandria, but the romans burnt it down, fantastic, the romans actually destroyed the jewish temple too, great empire.
and the greeks never had insane emperors that massacred christians, and burnt down their own city did they?
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Those aqueducts were so bad that some of them are still used in Rome,and some were still used as far as the 17 cent.And actually,The Arabs were the ones who ultimately burned and destroyed the library. The Greeks never had insane emperors?Alex was one drank so much wine that died,and then the other Emperors fought a 300 year civil war,never able to claim the throne of Alexander.Then came the Romans and conquered it.And God said the Temple had to be destroyed as a punishment.
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL In the first sentence you confused the Japanase Army with the Roman one! I have been thinking in something the Japs did that the Romans did not. Hmmmm... Hmm, Aha! How did I not though about that in the past? Stupid me ^_^ so simple, the Nanjin Massacre.
@prdude1234 nanjing massacres for the love of god, how many cities did the romans rape woman and children, how many cities did the romans burn to the ground, and destroy the lifely hood, how many fathers did they take, how many innocents did they kill, the romans were the butcher of the western world
the massacre was nothing compared to what th romans had done
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Lets see, apart from Carthage and other cities that rebelled, they did not usually burn them. And the Romans never massacred 300,000 people in just a few weeks. Nor they massacred 10 million people in 10 years.
the ottomans may have died but ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY is eternal. it shows 2 say that empires rise n fall but god will never fall. the ottomans brought the first cannon in the world made of bronze.Today, turkey has begun returning back 2 islamic influnce damn ataturk the jew he soul will never be forgiven by god
This was the beging of what we call Kuva-i Milliye(National Forces). This was what made me sad when i read the text at 7:02. The Kurdish people always fought with there Muslim brothers and thats why they dont have a own state. Because they didn't supported the ally's in the WW1 and stood with there Muslim brothers. As i sad the Kurdish uprising was against the Secular state who forbid the religious groups. BETTER TO STAND WITH YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS THAN TO BETRAY THEM FOR LAND AND GOLD!!!!!!!!
@crazydelikanli84 Nicely said brother, I admire the bravery of the Kurds...Salahadin Al Ayubi peace be upon him stood by his brothers side and never thought of any benefits for himself. great comments once again
And the Russians in the East. The uprising begins after a French soldier takes the hijab of a muslim female and is being shot by Sutcu Imam. The people gather and begin a guerilla war against the French. Finally the drive the French back to Syria. In the east there is the Sarikamis legend. The people gather along with Enver Pasha and begin the battle of Sarikamis. It was a drama. In an attempt to take the highest mountains to gain advantage over the Russians. 90.000 soldiers froze to death.
My brother, i was very sad to read at 7:02 that there was a kurdish uprising in WW1. This has never happened. The first Kurdish rebellion against the seculair state was at 1925. This was a uprising against the seculair state and a attempt to bring the Caliphate back. It was not betrayel like the Arabs and the Armenians did. The first resistance to the foreign occupation after the collapse of the Ottoman Caliphate comes from the Kurdish regions of Urfa, Maras, Antep and Kars. Against the French.
it breaks my heart every time i think about the conspiracy that lead to the end of the great ottoman khalifate.may allah ta ala re-establish the khalifate soon.amin.i love the ottoman empire because they were muslims.alhemdulillah.allah bless them 4 ever.amin.
No wonder the prophet (pbuh) said it was the best leader, best armies who will conquered constantinople. It is the the OTTOMANS!!! not the Arabs. They betrayed each other. They betrayed the muslims by befriending the west. Now they harvested what they sowed. A never-ending crisis that never heard of during the ottoman empire. I think it is a curse for the betraying the caliphate or ummah.
the west won't do shit to Turkey due it's strategic important location. with the west slowly declining, i bet the us wouldn't want Turkey to join Russia, İran, China and the Arab countries, would they?? secondly, Turkey is more Turkish than Holland is Dutch, mr/ms Nederlander76. How i know? İ live in Holland and know both cultures well. You and i know that the dutch culture is not even half as rich as the Turkish, Chinese or any other rich culture
the west won't do shit to Turkey due it's strategic important location. with the west slowly declining, i bet the us wouldn't want Turkey to join Russia, İran, China and the Arab countries, would they?? secondly, Turkey is more Turkish than Holland is Dutch, mr/ms Nederlander76. How i know? İ live in Holland and know both cultures well. You and i know that the dutch culture is not even half as rich as the Turkish, Chinese or any other rich culture
the west won't do shit to Turkey due it's strategic important location. with the west slowly declining, i bet the us wouldn't want Turkey to join Russia, İran, China and the Arab countries, would they?? secondly, Turkey is more Turkish than Holland is Dutch, mr/ms Nederlander76. How i know? İ live in Holland and know both cultures well. You and i know that the dutch culture is not even half as rich as the Turkish, Chinese or any other rich culture.
As long as the armenians themselves don't open their documents to the world, you can never prove that there was any 'genocide'. This lie has been repeated million times, and see, people believe it without giving it a second thought (or they are just anti-Turks). Evidence? Fight this case out in a court, not lobbying in the US and 'convincing' the mass with lies. So armo's should open their docs first :-)
First I would like to thank you brother for this effort. Second, I am Arabian,from Libya. What arab did at that time was not first time This happened In andalusia when arab betray each other. I do not believe in that arab we are the best. I believe in any ne follow The real islam who is the best. By the way these days we see the same thing in Libya happening again. Senhan Allah
Its sad , for the Muslim world, that the caliphate was abolished. THe muslims however, were not behind this caliphate always. Saud had been fighting them since the 1700s. And in Yemen, only the house of Hameed udin was loyal at first. Later, they too turned on the Sultan. Whether this was due to the British Navy offering gold to the locals, or b/c the sultan simply had a disorganized admin, or both; i aint sure. I do think the caliphs started slipping. They became interested primarily w/revenue.
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Well the Ottoman Empire officially was abolished by Pres. Mustafa Kemal in 1923 to create the modern Republic of Turkiye. Had he not done that the Empire could have continued, stumbling of course, but it's possible the Empire could have revitalized itself to adequate strength. So "collapse" isn't the right word here, it certainly deteriorated but I wouldn't say "collapsed" since it was officially "abolished".
Technically, I avoid using the word the Ottoman Empire "collapsed" though it was waning and weakened it was officially abolished in 1923 by Pres. Mustafa Kemal. Had he not abolished the Ottoman Empire could still be alive today revamped and strengthened.
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For heaven's sake...it was not a Holy War that Britain declared...it was a war of conquest to get Turkey's oil rich and strategic territories such as Mesopotamia and Egypt.
If you realy think the revolt got pressed onto the arabs, you should read about Alois Musil. he was basicly the german counterpart to lawrence of arabia, a professor of orientalism, considering himself a friend of the muslims.
he was send by the austrian kaiser to convince the arabs to unite under the ottomans and oppose the british, but as we know, found little response.
"Halifeliğin" ? this means "of the khilafah" in Turkish. Did you use "google translator" lol .. It should be " Halifelik or Hilafet" ... (I am Turkish)
Were the ottoman turks opressive towards the arabs? It's really sad, how UK divided up any country based on tiny differences and succeeded so easily. :/
ottomans defeated the byzantium empire by taking constantinople, their capital. this marked the end of the middle ages and also the end of the the remaining great roman empire. the west, unified, could not take their former capital back. so one british nationalist went to arab tribes to support arab revolt and convince them to fight turks and cause turmoil among turks and arabs. then, when they got a few tribes to revolt, they screwed the arabs, too. since then,the middle east is still screwed.
Well there you are wrong! A united west would conquer Turkey without any big trouble!
The reason Turkey still exists today is thanks to England France and Italy. Otherwise you would have only a small piece of land around Ankara. By the way Ankara is by origin a Keltic city. How ironic. Not much in Turkey is in fact Turkish
Why did the Ottomans invade Arabia? Shouldn't they have respected their Muslim brothers?
postneoludite 2 days ago
@postneoludite Becuse they are traitor...
hakanefe43 2 days ago
We Muslims have right to have Kaliph its nothing extremist or terrorist on it! The Christans got also their Pope! We have a right on a Kaliph and we will get one back and im ready to give my blood for it!!!
PunisherLobo 6 days ago
If the Ottoman Empire simply had remained neutral, it might have still existed.
RidiculouslyLuis 2 weeks ago
@RidiculouslyLuis
Well that is one point of view that is widely shared. The Ottoman leadership contemplated if they remained neutral, after WWI the Western empires would simply target them next as they were the last hurdle to knock over and make way for European colonization of N. Africa and the Middle East.
A2Kaid 5 days ago
Brother A2Kaid, please adjust the text at 7:02. It says that there were Kurdish rebels against the Ottomans. This is not true as i explaines in my previous comment 2 months ago. Please honor the thousands of Kurds who fell "Sahit" against the Crusaders in WW1.
crazydelikanli84 3 weeks ago
@crazydelikanli84
Your right in saying there were Kurds who fought for the Ottoman Empire. Though, weren't there Kurds who sought separatism and their own state after WWI. Just like the Arabs and Armenians all sought to carve a piece out of the Ottoman Empire. Am I wrong? If so please provide your evidence.
A2Kaid 5 days ago
@A2Kaid
Brother there where no Kurds who sought seperatism. Simply because there was no reason for it. The Kurds in the region had autonomy from the Ottoman Empire for about 600 years. This was there reward for remaining loyal to the empire through centuries and providing troops for the Jihads. Historical proof lies in the letter from Caliph Sultan Suleyman Kanuni in his letter to King Philip of France and in the Seref-name written by Seref Han.
crazydelikanli84 5 days ago
@crazydelikanli84
Okay let me do further research regarding this issue. I appreciate the information you have shared with me. Once I'm finished further researching I will then decide to change the text if it is historically inaccurate. This is one of the great things about comments, is if there is a historical inaccuracy or disagreement we can discuss this and correct any mistakes.
Thanks
A2Kaid 2 days ago
@A2Kaid
He refers to the autonomy of a series of regions, including Kurdistan. In the Seref-name they write that the Kurdish tribes of Beskani,Talos and Dandar provided troops for the conquest of Tabriz and Bagdad. This is historical documented evidence about the good relations between the Ottoman empire and the Kurds. In WW1 as, i mentioned in my previous comments , the uprising in the occupied Turkey started in the Kurdish regions. There is not a single evidence that the Kurdish tribes
crazydelikanli84 5 days ago
@A2Kaid
revolted against the Ottoman Empire. The uprising in the region of Urfa, Maras and Antep against the French were Kurdish people. In the mountains of Sarikamis 900000 soldiers froze to death against the Russians. Who where this people? Armenian gangs attacked villages in the east of Turkey and killed and raped thousands of people. Who where these people who where killed? Chinees? They were Kurdish. Please explain to me who those Kurdish tribes or people where who sought a own State?
crazydelikanli84 5 days ago
@A2Kaid
I have given you detailed historical and documanteded evidence. Please react with detailed historical and documanted evidence. If you dont have it please remove the requested text about Kurds. One of the greatest sin in the Islam is allegation to someone wtihout proof. You are now allegating a whole people with one of the most shamefull thing. Betray to there Faith and country. Please remove.
crazydelikanli84 5 days ago
@crazydelikanli84
Where have you given me detailed historical evidence? I did not allege a "whole" people betrayed the Ottomans. Though there were some Kurdish separatist who sought their own state just like some Armenian groups after WWI. This is a fact. I didn't say the entire Kurdish community opposed the Ottomans.
A2Kaid 4 days ago
@A2Kaid
My whole comments are full of evidence. Will you then provide evidence of one Kurd who fought against the Ottomans. Please, just give me one evidence. Just one! To support the so called fact of yours.
crazydelikanli84 4 days ago
@crazydelikanli84
Comments are not evidence, if you have a source or link provide one. Learn about the Bedir Khan uprising of 1843, Kurdish separatist groups have tried multiple times to separate from the Ottomans and establish their own Kurdish state. They tried again after WWI but the Ottomans manage to hold on.
A2Kaid 4 days ago
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Devlet-i Âliyye-i Osmâniyye
Yüce Osmanlı Devleti
Osmanlı İmparatorluğu
دولتْ علیّه عثمانیّه
OTTOMAN EMPİRE
OSMANLI DEVLETİ
Continued existence of the Turkish state, between the years 1299-1923. Eastern Europe, Southwest Asia and North Africa, and expanded its territory until the 16th century, the most powerful empire the world has become.
harbiye100 3 weeks ago
Cant read half the fucking text... Just fucking die
happywadey 3 weeks ago
otermans did not kill civs yous did retard
TheBotsCast 3 weeks ago
All the wars in the world are evil .. why should a human kill another ?, becouse someone want some ground ... let them get happy with there ground ... we wont live 4 ever anyways...
dirtykeskin 1 month ago
@dirtykeskin It's not about ground. It's about belief and earning your rights. Muslims fight for honor, for their family, for their country. We fight to take your country and make you muslim. We go after the prophet muhammed's foot prints, not some joke around guy :)
Seroosh4fun 3 weeks ago
@Seroosh4fun
Brother i am elhamdulillah muslim, you got me wrong ?.
dirtykeskin 3 weeks ago
@Seroosh4fun If by "we" you are content for us to infer you belong with the urban social misfits in search of an identity that prefer to wallow in the hatred and resentment stirred up by political trouble makers for their own ends and insult the prophet by misinterpreting the Koran, then the joke is on you not the Prophet: at least take the trouble to learn a little about the life of the Prophet and history of Islamic culture, rather than spout such shallow uneducated nonsense :-)
elrjames777 2 weeks ago
it never exists kurdish rebels the kurds had fight against the russians and armenians on our side and stop saying turks, nothing on the ottoman empire was turkish the sultans after bayezid II were all sons of not turks and the government and the elite infantry were janissaries, muslimized people from balcan.
MrMIkailAydin 1 month ago
from that day they ruled by jews and british government...
turkoli 1 month ago
WHERE THE EFF IS PART 2, NEED TO SEE..
MegaXLG 1 month ago
Lawrence wasn't an "ineffectual sideshow" he helped fomen and lead the Arab rebellion, he organized attacks on the Hijaz railroad cutting off Ottoman supply route into the Arabian peninsula, sporadic attacks on Ottoman troops tieing down weak pockets of Ottoman soldiers. He helped in the British capture of Damascus. Did other critical things as well with the help of the Arab nationalist and tribes. These are not ineffectual.
A2Kaid 1 month ago
@A2Kaid I agree, I don't think it would have been feezable for a British victory in Syria/Jordan/Iraq without the help of the Arabs, the Ottomans on the otherhand completely missed the any chance of using their religions to unite an Islamic front against the British.
Well if there was any chance at all I know the Arabs and Turks had a strained relationship, but I dont really know to what extent.
gotsda 1 week ago
@gotsda
Ottoman Empire, didn't miss the chance to unite the people under Islam. In fact, Ottoman Empire sent envoys to Arab tribes to reassure loyalty and told them to remain loyal to the Empire. The Arab nationalist betrayed the Ottomans, Islam or no Islam. They had their own objectives. The Ottoman Sultan did try to unite the Muslims, he even declared an official "Jihad".
A2Kaid 5 days ago
I know the history surrounding the Ottoman empire in WWI, more than you so don't lecture me. You are providing a more textbook pc version of that history. The Ottoman empire particularly the Minister of War Enver Pasha felt compelled to ally with Germany as they felt after WWI the Allied powers would simply target them next. Therefore by aligning with Germany they receive weaponry, training by German officers, etc. So when WWI did start Ottoman empire overtly struck first at a Russian harbor.
A2Kaid 1 month ago
@A2Kaid Do you think that the Ottoman Empire would have survived if the Arabs didnt Revolt?
PunisherLobo 6 days ago
@PunisherLobo
I think if the Arab tribes had remained loyal and not have revolted and joined the British, the Ottoman Empire would have been far more secure in the soft under-belly of Arabia. Ottoman Empire was most weak in Arabia and the British knew that hence exploited differences. It would have been difficult for the British to achieve their war objects to take Damascus, Baghdad, destroy the Hejaz railway (Arab rebels and Lawrence), Jerusalem, and other towns.
A2Kaid 5 days ago
@PunisherLobo
To give you a clear answer. I think yes the Ottoman Empire could have survived, but question is to what extent? Remember the Ottoman Empire was not completely destroyed but was badly damaged and lost majors to Imperial Western powers. It was reduced to Ankara and central part of Anatolia. It could have survived, the other problem is Mustafa Kemal abolished the Caliphate, precisely because of nationalism and mistrust of the Arabs.
A2Kaid 5 days ago
Errr...some grave errors in the history recited here. Suggest that you review the fact that the Ottoman Empire was dragged into conflict by their Entente with Germany, as was Austria, UK with France etc. With the German invasion of Belgium, the stale corrupt Ottoman Empire were forced into war and in the Middle East had their backsides kicked out of Egypt, Palestine and Syria by the Australian Light Horse. Lawrence was an ineffectual sideshow full of romance and no substance. Can we review?
helgasaab 1 month ago
ERDOGAN WANTS TO REVIVE THE STUPID EMPIRE
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Hadith03 2 months ago
@Hadith03 shut the fuck up you're a fuckin american
RusPrideAK 1 month ago
@RusPrideAK
I'm just trying to save your life from nuclear bomb
Hadith03 1 month ago
@Hadith03 still keep ur mouth shut. Put a beef burger or somethin
RusPrideAK 1 month ago
@RusPrideAK
I tell you something we are the grandsons of the OTTOMAN EMPIRE and we are proud to be a TÜRK nobody can scare us with an atomic bomb and no country in the world have the balls to attac us with nuclear weapos, no one trust me.
first1maganda 1 month ago
@first1maganda I know. I love Turks, and I support a revival of the ottoman Empire.
RusPrideAK 1 month ago
@RusPrideAK Let us build a new union. A more powerful union than the Ottoman Empire. let us be one and speak with one voice. Lets all move as one. Let us not allow the west to divide us any longer. This is how they keep us weak and powerless. Let us be one again. I am a Turk, but im not speaking of a Turkish Empire. We all have to stand together as equals. Put aside our petty differences and look at the bigger picture. Just imagine the possibilities. The possibilities are endless!!
tracer1024 1 month ago
@tracer1024 1. It took 900 years for the ottoman empire to succesfully capture about 10-20 countries. You think we are going to expand through out what? Killing civillians and thinking small in 4-5 years? You think that's to much? Dude, think about it.. 900 years be cause 1 sultan who was Osman Gazi who signed a contract with the brotherhood of the selcuks and released all his bonds with his brothers. He formed his own people who people call "Ottoman" But its really "Osmanli Devleti" Wikipedia.
Seroosh4fun 3 weeks ago
@Seroosh4fun What the hell are you on about? The Turks do not need to expand and capture. The Middle Eastern Union is being formed by the people and the region. This union will take place without having to fight. This isn't a Ottoman Empire, but a Muslim Empire
tracer1024 3 weeks ago
thumbs up for the red orchestra music
cbradley1391 2 months ago
KONUŞMAYIN LAN GODOŞLAR ALAMAZSINIZ BU VATANI Bİ SAVAŞ CIKSA KAFADAN 40 MİLYON GENÇ ASKERE ALIN DİYE DİLEKÇE VERİR
MrGreenDayy 2 months ago
@MrGreenDayy aynen oyle :D
EskisehirliWarrior 2 months ago
The last of the great empires! No other empire will be so great and will have such a cultural diverity. AIP!
prdude1234 2 months ago
Great documentary...very accurate and well made.
...until the end.. "the ottomans will wage their final jihad?" It seems like you are very nationalistic but nationalism was the beginning of the destruction of the Muslim world. I would advise that we return the the Quran and Sunnah and realize all of our answers lie right in front of us.
Azamspazam91 2 months ago
Remember how Great Britain & Turkey were allies for years before WW1. but Great Britain did a mistake when took Egipt (to secure the Suez Canal) and confiscated those 2 Turkish Battleships. In a very smart move Germany sold other 2 more little warships to already infuriated Turkey. Now Turkey did a BIG MISTAKE in went to WWI in the side of the Central Powers, instead of a wise policy of Neutrality, like she did in WW2. If BOTH sides avoided those respectives 2 mistakes, the WAR WAS IMPOSSIBLE.
TheTrueHistory 2 months ago
The Ottomans were the biggest mockery, an excuse of an empire in history. They were brutal and savage beasts, and they were utterly destroyed in WW1. Weak and useless.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
Luckily most credible and professional historians disagree with you. Lol.
A2Kaid 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight what are you talking about?
buasasdas 3 months ago
@buasasdas I am saying that the Ottoman Empire was a weak and pathetic empire that constantly embarrassed itself. In the Crimean war for example it had real powers like France and Britain stamping all over it's territory to prevent it's crumbling empire falling into Russian hands. When Britain wanted Crotia, they had to hand it over for nothing in return without question. And on top of that, they committed mass genocide and supported slavery. So, fuck the Ottomans.
TheLiberalKnight 3 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight What kind of idiot would come here and spout random comments? For the love of god pick up a fucking book you illiterate fuck!
KoivuTheHab 2 months ago
@KoivuTheHab I have an MA in history and I am telling you that I hate the Ottoman Empire!
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight Yes I notice you hate the Ottoman Empire, this is precisely what makes you so blind. It is very clear you will never be able to look at this piece of history from a natural standpoint thus it is quite pointless that you discuss your hateful views here.
KoivuTheHab 2 months ago
@KoivuTheHab Don't make me laugh. I have a master of the arts in history in both classical civilization and modern eras too. I hate the Ottomans. How dare you accuse me ignorance. I hate the Ottomans because they were barbaric animals who pailed in comparison to British or French scientists.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
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@TheLiberalKnight A learned historian going against the grain? I don't think so. You have proven that you have no knowledge of history. I am not interested in talking with someone with biased views like yourself. You can go hate somewhere else, but a piece of advice for you first. Before you decide to discuss the Ottoman Empire a second time, at least read about the subject first. Thanks.
KoivuTheHab 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight british and french more barbaric than any nation on earth, arent you lot the same fuckers who raped and kill poor africans, stole their natural resources, use them as slaves in building of e.g blackwall tunnel, do you ever ask yourself why black ppl hate white man, actualy why the whole world hates your nation. i can go any country and proudly say im turkish, can you do the same, if soo how long would you live, i arrest my case.
orhun20 2 months ago
@orhun20 Lol! Right. The Ottomans still sold women and children slaves openly at the market in the 20th century... 200 YEARS after Britain banned slavery! This is a good joke
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
"200 years after Britain banned slavery!" Not true fool, besides the premise of argument is a hypocritical one. I hope most Brits aren't as stupid as you are. Still upset about Cannakle? Good.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight get your fact straight mate, the slavery ended in britain in1833 and in the ottoman empire 1908, i own your ass once agian, give up already mate otherwise ima own you as a whole, you'll be my bitch.
orhun20 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight 200 years !!!!! you're a fucking joke, ottoman empire ended slavery 60 years after britain, the countries like spain, portugal, belgium, france and united states were still continued with slavery,
orhun20 2 months ago
@orhun20 You think it's OK for the Ottoman Empire to continue slavery until 1908? You make me sick! I refuse to talk to scum like you.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight the only reason u dont wanna talk me coz i own ur ass over and over again !!!im just too good for u, fucking stupid cunt.
orhun20 2 months ago
@orhun20 You illiterate middle eastern desert muslim :-)
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
He's Turkish how does that make him a "Middle Eastern Desert Muslim", and if we were to describe you in relative term let's say you illiterate islander limey christian (or atheist whatever you are). Mate you need to learn civility, thanks.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@A2Kaid The only people who I would imagine defending the revolting Ottoman Empire would be islamic fundamentalists, because that empire massacred all non-Muslims like savage animals.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight because the non muslims massacred the muslims, justifies what they did, actually you killed every muslim alive in Jerusalem
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight woh no need for name calling, you scummy, buck tooth, yellow belly, white trash, homeless, liberal fucker, go suck the queens cunt, you dirty inbred fuck
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
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orhun20 2 months ago
@orhun20 The mightiest empire the world has ever seen? That is a hilarious joke. Have you forgotten the Roman Empire? The French Empire? The Spanish Empire? The British Empire? God, even the Russian Empire was more prestigious than the Ottomans. You had 100 years of glory, and for the next 450 years it was nothing but an embarrassing and humiliating decline!
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight its even more hilarious to take critism from a english man who he's "so called army " lost a war against a handfull of scots :))
french army :D dont make me laugh they colonised african villages. spanish stil cant get over soloman, and russians queen katarina was blowing turkish sultan, if you dont believe me do some research :D
orhun20 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
Unlike the British and French Empire, the Ottoman Empire fought against formidable enemies, Holy League, Russia, Byzantines (East Roman Empire), Italy, British, French, Polish, and other East European countries with established conventional armies. Meanwhile, look at what France and Britain conquered nations and lands much weaker then they are, mostly Africa, and poor Hindustan after collapse of Mughal Empire. Ottoman Empire 600 years of Conquest!
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@A2Kaid Lol, you historically illiterate bafoon. Britain fought the Mughal empire, which was the strongest empire in the world at the time, indeed far stronger than the Ottomans were at the same time. They also fought Napoleonic France... do you really believe your pitiful empire could have stood up to Bonaparte? Oh wait a moment, you did fight him, and you got your asses kicked, you lost your egyptian territories, only a popular rebellion stopped them.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
Dear stupid British bastard, the British fought against what was left of the Mughal empire, not the Mughal Empire in it's hey day. You fought against Napoleon that is one war. The Ottomans conquered half of Eastern Europe, controlled the Mediterranean, North Africa, Middle East, Caucuses, etc for hundreds of years. British rule is Hind was barely 200 years. They also defeated the British at Cannakle and Anzac troops. Your a frustrated British bastard.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
By the way thanks for admitting the Mughal empire was mighty and strong.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight noooooooooooooo comment, it's that stupid what you just said
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
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@TheLiberalKnight like every mighty empires ottoman also had its prime and downfall, there is a saying whatever goes up must come down. Ottoman sultans were the king of kings !!!! most mightiest empire world has ever seen. im proud of being a Turk !!!! our mental strenght and desire to succeed is beyond this world. hopefully we'll RISE againg !!!! there're no boundaries for what we can do!!!!.
orhun20 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
The Ottoman empire (Turkiye) defeated the imperial powers in the Wars of Liberation following WWI, so the Turks continued the war and prevailed. Greece was defeated and the imperial powers backing Greece.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight hey, enough from you, you think that your nation, of Britain or america or what ever nation, in the west is better, i will tell you are wrong, those nations you so believe are good, were forged in blood, they caused more death then any nation in the east. you are british, your nation is the worst of the worst.
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Japanese boy, Britain was the first western country to treat you with respect. It would give good if you treated us with respect too.
The Asians and the Europeans are civilized. The middle eastern nations are uncivilized.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight my good friend is turkish, are you call them uncivilised because i will tell you now, they are a better person then you will ever be, and your knowledge of history is abysmal, i am shocked that you would try to make your statements justified, you have no justification, everyone knows that british historians are the biggest liars on this planet, shit your british aren't you, it would explain a lot.
the middle east is a lot more civilised then the UK
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL I am not calling the Turks uncivilized you retard! The Ottomans were not exclusively Turkish!
And yes, middle eastern countries are uncivilized. Turkey is an exception.
Let's have a look here. Britain created the industrial revolution. We are soley responsible for the modern world economy. We have Newton, Darwin, Brunel. We are not only a thousand times more civilized than Turkey, but we are probably the most civilized country on earth.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight
Yes we and the world saw how civilized you were during the London riots, how civilized you were when you pretended to help an injured lad and actually blindly robbed him, we see how civilized you are after football games, we see how civilized you are at the pubs and late night hours. Shut your mouth you dirty Brit you and your nation are barbarians and the crimes you have perpetrated around the world hopefully one day you will pay for.
A2Kaid 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight if you tell me that britain is civilized one more time, i fucking smack you in the face boy.
you british starved a country (ireland), you gave drugs to the chinese, just so you could control them. you enslaved almost a entire continent, you slaughtered them (africa). your very own country now isn't even civilized, look at you, you live on the bloody welfare. you invade nations for land and oil, that's not civilized. you think yourself as civilized but in fact your dirty
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Lies! We fucked the Irish, yes. We fucked the Chinese yes, with international support, because the Chinese were isolationists. Enslaved an entire continent- absoloute balls, we had no slaves you idiot. Slaughtered them? This is the funniest bullshit yet. Give me a SINGLE example where Britain slaughtered anyone. ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE.
Britain will be remembered as the new Rome. We are more civilized than those barbaric Muslims in the middle east for sure.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight are you sure, every colony, you cam back with slaves, you were the leaders of slave trading, you slaughtered thousands, in africa, in the pacific, you slaughter the indigenous people of australia, the US, you let ireland to a famine, while you sit and watched, you are not civilized, you barely stopped a war between scotland and england continuing, is that civilised that only 400 years ago, actually less, you unified your nation? is that really civilized? muslims have are better
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight also, to justify the UK is even remotely civilized tell me something other then science, because the muslim world was better, and other then your theories which means nothing of being civilised, and a industral revolution that basically was slavery, and a empire that crumbled, and actually what else, you have inventors, so does the middle east, you go to their country claiming to be for a just cause, your the uncivilized bastard that invaded a innocent country, UK =uncivilized
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Name me a single Muslim scientist who can rival Issac Newton or Charles Darwin.
Right, you claim that we slaughtered thousands in Africa. PROVE IT, you down syndrome Jap. You can't, because it DIDN'T HAPPEN.
We were the FIRST country in the world to ban slavery. You can't get much more civilized than that.
You can say what you want, but we will be remembered as the new Roman Empire.
Need I remind you of Japanese war crimes against China?
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight all the scientist goes far beyond the crusade so off course i don't remember the muslims were the leading brain surgeons, on the leading on science, and before you say another word, you killed every muslim inside Jerusalem, actually you weren't because asia was, more specifically japan since the slave trade never existed. and i remember and before you call them war crimes, i think britain has a lot to answer for the war in 1812
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL War crimes in 1812? Japan banned slavery before Britain?
I am finished talking to you. You clearly know less about history than Cat shit.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight you what to know why, because japan didn't open the borders until the meiji period, and japan never slavery you idiot, your knowledge of history is the most bias history i have ever read, you have very little to go on, only they the new roman empire, well i can tell you right now, germany was seen as the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, before britain was, you are nothing anymore, i wouldn't call you a empire but a island. and those crimes forcing americans to join the brits or die
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL If you weren't such a down syndrome's idiot, you'd know that the Holy Roman Empire had the most midleading name in history. The Haspburg German Empire had nothing to do with the Roman Empire at all, they merely called themselves Roman.
I wouldn't call Japan an empire any more either. You're just an island, like us.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight yeah i do know that i'm fuckign around, but japan isn't a empire, it's just a better country then the UK will ever be.
so keep on thinking your a almighty empire, your empire is almost no existent, its a 80+ year old queen, the next in line is a vegan, and the next is a nazi.
so in all sense your empire will die, before mine, or any other empire.
actually in sense your empire is dying
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Lol, you keep telling yourself that ;-)
You still consider yourself to be an empire... your head of state is an emperor, not a Shogun. Yet we are much bigger than you and have a much larger empire than you.
Do you really think I give a shit when a little Jap comes on youtube and talks down Britain? History speaks for itself. We have, quite simply, made history. We changed the world economy. We will be remembered as the new Rome.
Don't expect a reply.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@TheLiberalKnight good god, whata load of crap, it took britain 100's of years, it took japan around 20 years to conquer most of the pacific, weren't gutless to fight a superior power, the first asian nation to defeat a european superpower.
britain made history, but no for being a empire, but being a commerce hub, and the war of independence, thats all, and you changed nothing of the world economy, actually what has the uk down recently except bitch and mown, and also have riots.
britain=fail
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL You've obviously never heard of the industrial revolution, you illiterate pig. Factories are a British invention. Industry is a British invention. Before Britain, everyone used farms as the main source of GDP. You fucking idiot.
British empire = largest in history, 1/3 of world trade, 1/4 of world population, most powerful navy in history.
The Japanese empire... although I have great respect for it... did not set any records.
Now please, talk politely to me or I won't reply.
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Britain = fail... That is what they teach you in Japan? What Japan did? Conquer a few hundred uninhabitated islands in the middle of nowhere and commit suicide instead of fighting. Wow, hears so epic and seems to be the greatest empire ever. You know the greatest empire ever? It was the Roman Empire, PERIOD.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 actually no they don't like all things said, it is opinion. and those few uninhabited islands, were colonies of Britain, and were lost to the Japanese rather quickly especially in some battles, the Japanese used bikes to win, and they did win.
they committed suicide, because it is honourable, to be captured, is actually a shameful, and dishonourable act, but they don't teach you that do they westerner.
an the roman empire, was filled with more civil wars, and bitching then any other
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL was it more honorable to shot yourself 5 minutes after the battle started and kill no one than fight until the last bullet and drop of blood? Which would have served the emperor better? An incompetent bunch of fanitics who dont fight or a group of fanatics willing to give their lives for the empire?
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 wtf is this shit, really, in no battle did japan commit suicide after 5 minutes, in most cases, the soliders fought until they were out of ammo, almost most people know that, that the japanese never did crap like that.
they fought to the end, on all the islands, only a few surrended, even read pacific journels of soldier, most were scared, or don't understand why none surrendered.
and no reply to roman empire, or the island thing, just some stupid comment on suicide
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL rofl, scared huh? A real soldier will accept defeat and surrender to fight another day for the empire... I really want you to reply to the Roman Empire comment of mine, to see all the nonsense crap you say.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 and most army soldies no, not to surrender, to fight to the last bullet and man. but i suppose british don't know that.
and during world war two, your not going to fight another day, nor in any wars, you would die in that camp, until the end of the war, what use are you then?
your knowledge of world ward 2 is rather tiny, so is your knowledge of honour, and shame, IT IS DISHONOURABLE TO SURRENDER, IT IS SHAMEFUL TO YOUR FAMILY, IT IS COWARDLY AND SELFISH.
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
the roman empire is not in the least great, in fact you forgot the persian empire, the egyptian empire, and the Macedonian empire, which were bigger, and much more impressive, considering who they fought. and what they conquered.
so in reality what you just said, have no lean weight to back it up.
finished with a child like you.
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL I LMAO for 5 minutes when I readed your comment. The Egyptian empire? Really? It never conquered more than the Northern part of Nubia and Palestine. The Macedonian one? ROFL! All they did was destroy a glorious empire, then get drunk and fight for three centuries. The Persian empire in fact, was the only empire larger than the Romans of all those who you mentioned. And the Romans conquered Egypt, Gaul, Spain, Carthage, Macedon, Anatolia, Palestine, Thrace, Babylon.......
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 the roman empire, was split into civil war, then after that, governed by 3 people, then after that war, war war, after all, the romans, only really fought barbarians, nations, that were ill prepared, the only real threat was carthage,
those empires were far better then roman, espically since it split into two, and the destroyed rather swiftly i might add
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Barbarians ill prepared? Really? Barbarians were the most fanatical warriors in the anciento world. The Romans not only fought barbarians, they fought and defetaed the professional Hellenic Armies, the Carthaganian Armies and the Epirope armies. And it was split in 2 because governing such a large empire was impossible by only one person....
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 actually my knowledge of roman history is very small, so i prefer not to comment on something i know i cannot win,
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL So, then stfu and dont say it was one of the least importan Empires. Because the Romans laid the foundation of modern government,architecture,build roads unsurpassed until this century,and their language was the base for modern lagnguages (French,Italian,Spanish,and English) and had the most professional army back then,it can be compared to the modern SAS,Delta,or Spetznas forces.They unified half Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East,no other empire ever did that again.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 at least i have the guts to say i was wrong, where as you act high and mighty, knowing you know shit all about world war two, and japn, that your shit at understanding military morals.
and if your comparing 4 languages as a great achievement, it ain't that great, and english is take from many countries not just latin, it's also greek. wait, wait the middle east?, no i don't think so, and by half of europe do you mean spain half of uk, and france, and greece, thats not half,
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL O,so the Romans never conquered Armenia, Palestine,Anatolia,or Mesopotamia?Wow, what did all the historians smoke o_O Europe,Lets see,Spain,Gaul,Part of Germania, Italy,the Balkans,southern part of Ukraine,Dacia,Plus most of Great Britain. What the Japs did? Conquer 1/4 of China,Korea,Indonesia,and all the uninhabitated islands in the middle of nowhere. And held them for what? Korea for 40 years and the rest for minumum 5 years and maximum 10, the Romans did for 600 years.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 japan controlled every pacific island, they controlled hong kong, macau, about a half of china, all of korea, all of indonesia, india, actually is i remembered correctly it took 14 days, and most of the islands that were with people, had the british on them, and they surrended like you couldn't believe, a army defeats another army that is larger, and has more training (supposedly) no in reality japan had a better army and most advanced navy. you keep telling yourself that buddy
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
Respond to this video... 14 days? ROFL, The war against China started at 1937 and by 1945 they had only control of 1/4 of it. And yes, some islands were guarded by small garrisons who were unprepared to fight. And if I remember well, the Japs lost their "advanced and mighty" navy in just 1 day. Remember Midway? And the small planes who sunk the unsinkable Yamato? The Japanese army was so mighty they could not defeat the small Australian army in Papua New Guinea... And the battle of Wake Island?
prdude1234 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL The Japanese empire was weak. You took advantage of the fact that Britain was caught up fighting with Germany in order to steal parts of her empire. Then when you attacked the Americans, they beat you fair and square. Now please begone with you. History will not notice the Japanese, but Britain will be remembered as the new Rome, and Spain will be remembered too...
TheLiberalKnight 2 months ago
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@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 14 days? ROFL, The war against China started at 1937 and by 1945 they had only control of 1/4 of it. And yes, some islands were guarded by small garrisons who were unprepared to fight. And if I remember well, the Japs lost their "advanced and mighty" navy in just 1 day. Remember Midway? And the small planes who sunk the unsinkable Yamato? The Japanese army was so mighty they could not defeat the small Australian army in Papua New Guinea... And the battle of Wake Island?
prdude1234 2 months ago
actually i'm finished with this, you and that liberal fuck up, are both retarded, and you went away from the point you idiot, it was about ottoman empire and the british, which was nothing compared. you fuck tard, roman history is just society and wars every now and then, actually for years romans waged wars, and butchered the cities it took
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Like the Japanese, the Japanese who were at civil war for arguably 1000 years. And massacred and estimated 10 million civilians. I still have not found a reason which makes the Japanese Empire more glorious that the Roman or British (Or any empire). Simply because the Japanese won a few battles against a decaying empire does not make them Glorious. Because the Romans won many battles against 5 powerful empires. And the British ruled more than any other empire ever has done.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Also, it is funny that the Brazilian "Empire" was larger than the Japanese one. And the Brazilians did not even fought real wars to expand their empire xD
prdude1234 2 months ago
and by professional army do you mean a bunch of rapist, pillagers, plebs, criminals and back wash, they weren't a great army, they used tactics that suited open ground warfare, and they can't be compared to special forces, considering the romans were taught to be a unit, not single man, and they were never a good army in the first place, just sound tactics.
and greek architecture was far more superior, and roads wise yes, government (capitalism) nothing good about that
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Never heard of the Roman Legion?And how it was not defeated basically in 700 years(With exceptions about ambushes)?The Roman Legions were extremly disciplined and even in midst of defeat,the soldier still acted with organization and discipline.O,did the Greek build the epic Ostia Port?Or the Thousand of miles of acueducts(Who still worked by the 16 and 17 centruy)or the large Coliseums?Or the thousand miles of Via Consularis(Some still used as highways in several countries)?
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 those aqueducts was what killed a lot of romans, it had lead in it, what idiot makes it out of lead?
the greeks created a glorious city Alexandria, and the library at alexandria, but the romans burnt it down, fantastic, the romans actually destroyed the jewish temple too, great empire.
and the greeks never had insane emperors that massacred christians, and burnt down their own city did they?
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Those aqueducts were so bad that some of them are still used in Rome,and some were still used as far as the 17 cent.And actually,The Arabs were the ones who ultimately burned and destroyed the library. The Greeks never had insane emperors?Alex was one drank so much wine that died,and then the other Emperors fought a 300 year civil war,never able to claim the throne of Alexander.Then came the Romans and conquered it.And God said the Temple had to be destroyed as a punishment.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL In the first sentence you confused the Japanase Army with the Roman one! I have been thinking in something the Japs did that the Romans did not. Hmmmm... Hmm, Aha! How did I not though about that in the past? Stupid me ^_^ so simple, the Nanjin Massacre.
prdude1234 2 months ago
@prdude1234 nanjing massacres for the love of god, how many cities did the romans rape woman and children, how many cities did the romans burn to the ground, and destroy the lifely hood, how many fathers did they take, how many innocents did they kill, the romans were the butcher of the western world
the massacre was nothing compared to what th romans had done
NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL 2 months ago
@NOWAYIAMGOINGTOJAIL Lets see, apart from Carthage and other cities that rebelled, they did not usually burn them. And the Romans never massacred 300,000 people in just a few weeks. Nor they massacred 10 million people in 10 years.
prdude1234 2 months ago
the ottomans may have died but ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY is eternal. it shows 2 say that empires rise n fall but god will never fall. the ottomans brought the first cannon in the world made of bronze.Today, turkey has begun returning back 2 islamic influnce damn ataturk the jew he soul will never be forgiven by god
azrilrazlan 3 months ago
gar ossmanion pe kohe ham tota tu kia gham hay
k khon e sat hazar anjum se hoti ha sahar peda...long live turkey
ateeqkhan09 3 months ago
This was the beging of what we call Kuva-i Milliye(National Forces). This was what made me sad when i read the text at 7:02. The Kurdish people always fought with there Muslim brothers and thats why they dont have a own state. Because they didn't supported the ally's in the WW1 and stood with there Muslim brothers. As i sad the Kurdish uprising was against the Secular state who forbid the religious groups. BETTER TO STAND WITH YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS THAN TO BETRAY THEM FOR LAND AND GOLD!!!!!!!!
crazydelikanli84 3 months ago
@crazydelikanli84 Nicely said brother, I admire the bravery of the Kurds...Salahadin Al Ayubi peace be upon him stood by his brothers side and never thought of any benefits for himself. great comments once again
jumshid 3 months ago
And the Russians in the East. The uprising begins after a French soldier takes the hijab of a muslim female and is being shot by Sutcu Imam. The people gather and begin a guerilla war against the French. Finally the drive the French back to Syria. In the east there is the Sarikamis legend. The people gather along with Enver Pasha and begin the battle of Sarikamis. It was a drama. In an attempt to take the highest mountains to gain advantage over the Russians. 90.000 soldiers froze to death.
crazydelikanli84 3 months ago
My brother, i was very sad to read at 7:02 that there was a kurdish uprising in WW1. This has never happened. The first Kurdish rebellion against the seculair state was at 1925. This was a uprising against the seculair state and a attempt to bring the Caliphate back. It was not betrayel like the Arabs and the Armenians did. The first resistance to the foreign occupation after the collapse of the Ottoman Caliphate comes from the Kurdish regions of Urfa, Maras, Antep and Kars. Against the French.
crazydelikanli84 3 months ago
it breaks my heart every time i think about the conspiracy that lead to the end of the great ottoman khalifate.may allah ta ala re-establish the khalifate soon.amin.i love the ottoman empire because they were muslims.alhemdulillah.allah bless them 4 ever.amin.
brooklynyte4ever 3 months ago
No wonder the prophet (pbuh) said it was the best leader, best armies who will conquered constantinople. It is the the OTTOMANS!!! not the Arabs. They betrayed each other. They betrayed the muslims by befriending the west. Now they harvested what they sowed. A never-ending crisis that never heard of during the ottoman empire. I think it is a curse for the betraying the caliphate or ummah.
MrSaga2702 3 months ago
true true and true brothers
cengizsogutlu 3 months ago
Britain beat them once and would again
FeignofCordor 3 months ago
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@Nederlander76
the west won't do shit to Turkey due it's strategic important location. with the west slowly declining, i bet the us wouldn't want Turkey to join Russia, İran, China and the Arab countries, would they?? secondly, Turkey is more Turkish than Holland is Dutch, mr/ms Nederlander76. How i know? İ live in Holland and know both cultures well. You and i know that the dutch culture is not even half as rich as the Turkish, Chinese or any other rich culture
DragovianMythiX 4 months ago
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@Nederlander76
the west won't do shit to Turkey due it's strategic important location. with the west slowly declining, i bet the us wouldn't want Turkey to join Russia, İran, China and the Arab countries, would they?? secondly, Turkey is more Turkish than Holland is Dutch, mr/ms Nederlander76. How i know? İ live in Holland and know both cultures well. You and i know that the dutch culture is not even half as rich as the Turkish, Chinese or any other rich culture
DragovianMythiX 4 months ago
@Nederlander76
the west won't do shit to Turkey due it's strategic important location. with the west slowly declining, i bet the us wouldn't want Turkey to join Russia, İran, China and the Arab countries, would they?? secondly, Turkey is more Turkish than Holland is Dutch, mr/ms Nederlander76. How i know? İ live in Holland and know both cultures well. You and i know that the dutch culture is not even half as rich as the Turkish, Chinese or any other rich culture.
DragovianMythiX 4 months ago
@nuneh
As long as the armenians themselves don't open their documents to the world, you can never prove that there was any 'genocide'. This lie has been repeated million times, and see, people believe it without giving it a second thought (or they are just anti-Turks). Evidence? Fight this case out in a court, not lobbying in the US and 'convincing' the mass with lies. So armo's should open their docs first :-)
DragovianMythiX 4 months ago
ALsalam alikum
First I would like to thank you brother for this effort. Second, I am Arabian,from Libya. What arab did at that time was not first time This happened In andalusia when arab betray each other. I do not believe in that arab we are the best. I believe in any ne follow The real islam who is the best. By the way these days we see the same thing in Libya happening again. Senhan Allah
aali4622 4 months ago
Big mistake for the Ottomans to allied themselves with the German Empire.
AdvanXer 4 months ago
Its sad , for the Muslim world, that the caliphate was abolished. THe muslims however, were not behind this caliphate always. Saud had been fighting them since the 1700s. And in Yemen, only the house of Hameed udin was loyal at first. Later, they too turned on the Sultan. Whether this was due to the British Navy offering gold to the locals, or b/c the sultan simply had a disorganized admin, or both; i aint sure. I do think the caliphs started slipping. They became interested primarily w/revenue.
translationwiz 4 months ago
RED ORCHESTRA!!!!
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TheServiceWeb 4 months ago
May Allah burn those traitors in the deepest depths of hell...AllahuAkbar...
anzsai 4 months ago
Interesting, if one-sided, video.
Big mistake, to let the Ottoman Empire collapse.
AulicExclusiva 4 months ago
@AulicExclusiva
Well the Ottoman Empire officially was abolished by Pres. Mustafa Kemal in 1923 to create the modern Republic of Turkiye. Had he not done that the Empire could have continued, stumbling of course, but it's possible the Empire could have revitalized itself to adequate strength. So "collapse" isn't the right word here, it certainly deteriorated but I wouldn't say "collapsed" since it was officially "abolished".
A2Kaid 4 months ago
@A2Kaid I am a Turk, And FUCK AtaJew !
Dreamkillah1 3 months ago
@Dreamkillah1
Why do you think he is a Jew? It is rumored he is a Doenmeh Jew. What is your evidence?
A2Kaid 3 months ago
@A2Kaid This is my evidence.
secretjews.wordpress(dot)com ( W.W.w) before the url.
Dreamkillah1 3 months ago
@Dreamkillah1
I've seen this source before, in academics this isn't considered a reputable or credible source. Do you have any credible source?
A2Kaid 3 months ago
@AulicExclusiva
Technically, I avoid using the word the Ottoman Empire "collapsed" though it was waning and weakened it was officially abolished in 1923 by Pres. Mustafa Kemal. Had he not abolished the Ottoman Empire could still be alive today revamped and strengthened.
A2Kaid 3 months ago
so, the GENOCIDE of 1.5 MILLION ARMENIANS within the ottoman empire was not significant enough to be included in this documentary of yours?
shame on you.
nuneh 4 months ago
nice documentary but next time could you make sure the colour of the text is different from the background cos some bits are hard to read
stealthunter14 4 months ago
@stealthunter14
I understand, I have fixed this problem for all future documentaries and videos. At the time this documentary was made I was using a less than sophisticated video editing software, which made it difficult to make the necessary editing to make the texts more visible. I'm using a professional video editing software now, so the problem will no longer remain. In fact I invite you to check my new trailer "Ottoman Empire: 600 Years of Conquest", you'll see what I mean...
A2Kaid 4 months ago
For heaven's sake...it was not a Holy War that Britain declared...it was a war of conquest to get Turkey's oil rich and strategic territories such as Mesopotamia and Egypt.
Asskicker32294 5 months ago
perspective
MrFalconford 5 months ago
If you realy think the revolt got pressed onto the arabs, you should read about Alois Musil. he was basicly the german counterpart to lawrence of arabia, a professor of orientalism, considering himself a friend of the muslims.
he was send by the austrian kaiser to convince the arabs to unite under the ottomans and oppose the british, but as we know, found little response.
Blindanddumb 6 months ago
"Halifeliğin" ? this means "of the khilafah" in Turkish. Did you use "google translator" lol .. It should be " Halifelik or Hilafet" ... (I am Turkish)
osamalet 6 months ago
Fuck the British
italianboy18FQ 6 months ago
Were the ottoman turks opressive towards the arabs? It's really sad, how UK divided up any country based on tiny differences and succeeded so easily. :/
teeeshizzle 6 months ago
Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin !
becharev 7 months ago
ottomans defeated the byzantium empire by taking constantinople, their capital. this marked the end of the middle ages and also the end of the the remaining great roman empire. the west, unified, could not take their former capital back. so one british nationalist went to arab tribes to support arab revolt and convince them to fight turks and cause turmoil among turks and arabs. then, when they got a few tribes to revolt, they screwed the arabs, too. since then,the middle east is still screwed.
elena55o 7 months ago 16
@elena55o
That sounds about right...
A2Kaid 7 months ago 2
@elena55o the british ruined everything, now the US, and in the future Israel will... thats the plan
DORC101 5 months ago
@elena55o
very nice observation...
jorax1973 5 months ago
@elena55o
Well there you are wrong! A united west would conquer Turkey without any big trouble!
The reason Turkey still exists today is thanks to England France and Italy. Otherwise you would have only a small piece of land around Ankara. By the way Ankara is by origin a Keltic city. How ironic. Not much in Turkey is in fact Turkish
Nederlander76 4 months ago
@elena55o Well said
jumshid 3 months ago