portnoy was very tasteful (subjective), but he does not have these skills.
mangini has 4 brains or he is wired wrong. i am not a drummer, but it easy to see throughout most of this solo that each limb is playing something different and different time signatures. whether you find it tasteful or not is irrelevant: his skill is unmatched.
and to be fair to mangini, he did not compose the drum parts on the new album. the next album will show what he can do for DT.
@TheOsirix12 Fucking moron, go away! He did NOT write most of their songs, Petrucci did. He alongside Myung writes 90% of the material, with ruddess doing arrangements and his parts. Portnoy wrote the LYRICS on some songs, but not as often as Petrucci. And Portnoy added some vocals and arrangement input, but very limited as to compositions. I am so SICK AND TIRED of all Portnoy FANBOYS exaggerating his importance to the band, just cos he co-founded the band, and was one of it´s spokespersons!
@TheOsirix12 Nice caveman english dude..... I HAVE read who is listed on all DT songs, I have all their albums. And petrucci, myung and Portnoy are listed as composers on 99,9 % of the songs, some songs lack ruddess, and quite a few lack Labrie´s participation. What I am saying his HOW MUCH he contributes in the songwriting... to get an idea about that you have to READ articles and INTERVIEWS with the band.... Which I have, and you havent (can you even read?)
@TheOsirix12 Doesn´t contradict what I wrote initially.... Okay, maybe "some of " the lyrics which I wrote is slightly different than "significant". Still Petrucci have written more of the lyrics. AND, to the point, as to THE MUSIC (which in my book is the key writing in DT, them being a prog rock /semi-instrumental band...). The main riff writers are Petrucci and Myung.
@raclimja16 I could explain polyrythms and odd time signatures for you, but I suggest you travis-boys go back to straight beats and 8 note fills... (dude you can wave your arms while doing it, looks aaaaaaawesome..)
@raclimja16 Chris and Mike are fine, but they have nothing, NOTHING on Mangini. Don´t slay what you don't understand dude... you will only seem like a a newby in the drumming community. A community in which Mangini has been named one of the "superdrummers", i.e. performing superhuman rythms and meters... leaving the Chris´s and Portnoys in awe.... I might like a nice painting of a sunset, but I don´t understand Picasso, I just simply lack the tools to understand that art form. And so do you
@nengstro your the one who don't understand anything, being able to do something is another thing and being a good musician is another thing.
for example, metallica is not hard or very technical but it they are great musicians and their music sound really good and is consider by many as legends and even popular musicians mention them as their influence
@JOEtheHOTTIE Er.... no and no. This guy has won the WFD competition 5 (yeah, fiiiiive..) times. Check your facts before posting, or stay away from commenting.
@JOEtheHOTTIE I know 4 other Mangini fanboys. The ones that CHOSE him as their drummer. If you don´t trust their judgement you are not a true Dream Theater fan. I am though a DT FAN, even a "fanboy" if you like, WTF ever that means... Not accepting DTs ability to assess a drummers capacity and creative potential, and stubbornly sticking to "the old and known", that, my friend, makes YOU a portnoy fanboy! Lol
"...and far more TECHNICALLY and THEORETICALLY skilled than Portnoy". I guess you are just a Mangini fanboy. Both Portnoy and Mangini is one of THE best drummers in the world. And they both have different playstyles. But if you know how good Portnoy really is, you should know that NO ONE can have "FAR MORE" technic and skills. To say one is better then the other is just stating a personal opinion and not a fact. Both are worldclass and so tight there are no room for better or worse.
@rhythmatist2013 Portnoy has some licks, techinque and the ability to play in odd time. What he doesn't have is feel and originality. He's the 'Black Crows' of prog rock drumming. Meaning, he rips a bit of this one and that one with no room of originality for himself.
@nyqa Er... and you are just a Portnoy fanboy... Since you feel the need to defend him with the - "we are all equal and good at something" approach. Get real dude - "no one can have far more technic and skills".... Are you from Mars or Pluto? Of course they can, drums are built up my rudiments and rythmic skills and being able to separate your limbs. Check out MMs solo on the new tour where he plays polyrythmic figures with his right arm over the rest of his limbs - which MP simply can´t do!
Well I think we all agree that Portnoy is a bad motherfucker. Specific to DT he was the band's Prime mover in my opinion. However, Mangini is doing things that go above and beyond Portnoy from a technical aspect, and that is not debatable. As far as what is tasteful or relevant, that's subjective; both are monsters. What must be admitted is that skill levels exist, and some are more skillful than others. Mangini has more skill than Portnoy. Whether that makes him better is up for debate.
Oh yeah, I forgot you and Mike Portnoy had a superhuman telepathic connection. Seriously though, you have no idea what portnoy would have been doing in that song.
Nowhere near Portnoy is correct. Mangini is so far beyond Portnoy its almost sad. This guy is in a class all his own. If you understand what you're hearing you will have to acknowledge that fact. Otherwise you're just stating an opinion of taste, not competence. Mangini owns Portnoy in every friggin language.
@djlivingfire Trust me man I am a drummer, not a very good one, but I still know that Mike Portnoy blow this guy out of the water, this is like compering Neil Pert with Lars. Listen to "The best of times", "A Nightmare to Remember", "War inside my Head", "Take me as I am", and "Dark Eternal Night". DT will never be the same with Mangini, it will from now on be great drumming instead of completely epic drumming. I have been listening to him for several years now, and he is in a league own.
@Yadooba Um...no. Portnoy, nor anyone else, will "blow this guy out of the water." I agree that Portnoy has a skill set all his own, and is at the apex of the pyramid. But I too am a musician, and a skilled one, and believe me when I say that Mangini is executing things that are going unnoticed because they are simply so slickly executed it SEEMS simple. Trust me it isn't. The only other drummer in Mangini's technical league is Thomas Lang. Portnoy does great things, but he's not this.
@djlivingfire Continued comment... You can say he is better at solos (Although I don't think he is) but his beat diffidently not as good. If you think he is better then that is great, but DT will never be the same to me, Portnoy was my drum hero. Just like Micheal Romeo is my guitar hero.
@Yadooba Er...how do you figure from that song, where Mangini plays what fits best, that Portnoy is better?? You LIKE Portnoy more obviously since he is more to your taste, but he does not have the same skillset, speed, ambidexterity, polyrythms etc... thats a fact. Portnoy has a huge following, that too is a fact. But so does Britney Spears....
@nengstro I figure from the fact that it does not have a complex beat such as the ones Portnoy supplies, a beat that many metal drummers could perform... Speed, There about even I think, and as far ambidexterity, dude that guy could play with one foot on the bass pedal, one foot playing drums while helping him eat a sandwich (And still use the double bass), and using both his hands do a rhythms using every part of a 40 piece drum set... By the way I play both guitar and drums. *Ran out of text*
That is the dorkiest hair I've seen in years, and I don't understand why his mic has the largest windscreen ever made for a headset mic, but he's a pretty good drummer. Just keep him in a hole in the stage where no one can see him and it's all good.
@sfam since it was 1998, things (hairstyles and windscreen mic technology) have changed. Hopefully, they;re better. But you're wrong about him not being seen, he definitely deserves to be seen.
@JoChains He laughs in the face of simple straight chrunch-metal like Slipknot... Mangini is a lot more COMPLEX of a drummer, and far more TECHNICALLY and THEORETICALLY skilled than Portnoy. Hell, he kicks the asses of Tomas Lang and Marco Minneman! He is (was) a PROFESSOR in persussion prior to DT...There is a reason why Mangini was one of the chosen "Superdrummers" in drumhead magazine.... Portnoy was for sure not even considered... Dont even mention Slipknot in this context...
@GalloPinz Glad to see people like you on YT that understand drums!, I am sick and tired of people making a saint out of Portnoy, even though he had his thing going. Not to mention the J Jordison following..... please save us all from them
@ginjeeimano; Honestly, I think Portnoy is second to none. There are so many great drummers around. Neil peart is probably the very best. I thought Virgil was brilliant when he played with Steve Vai. amazingly he did not make a great audition this time. Gadd is also up there, and most probably another dozen drummers. A question like this is equal to "what is best, pizza, hamburger or chicken...?" peace - Rock on.. ;)
@rhesuspluss Yes, I agree with you basically,, but,, no one plays like this, no one, he is the first to play two different time signatures sort of, two rhythm's going on at once. Also, he reverses his sweeps and sweeps his bass and high hat and slows down his top of set sweeping, simply never done before!!
@geetarnut I will not disagree on what you say about Portnoy. The Metropolis 2000 show is for me the greatest metal show of all times. But still,I think the man lost THAT grip during the next 10 years. We've seen the auditions, -so many great candidates to chose from. "experts" say J Jordison from Slipknot is #1.
My private prog metal expert says it will not be a BIG problem for DT to replace Portnoy. 12-15 drummers could do the job.Let's just hope the band picked the right candidate ;)
@rhesuspluss No EXPERTS say J Jordison is no 1!!! He´s a hack, a mediocre metal drummer in a very visible and popular band, that´s all. In the drumming community Jordison is maybe a 2 or a 3 on a scale of 10, where Mangini is 10 out of 10 alongside drumming giants such as Benny Greb, Tony Royster Jr, Tomas Lang, Simon Phillips, Dave Weckl etc. Mentioning Joey in this context is an insult to all aspiring drummers true to the craft.
@nengstro thank you for commenting. I'm quite humble to this issue, I can't put words to terms inside drumming. English is not even my native language. But I DO like prog, metal etc and I follow DT, I listen to rock all day. I have ears ;) question for you; where would you place Portnoy, at his best, compared to these great names you come up with. The same scale, would you give him 9/10 ?? Neil Pert belongs at top of your scale??? Harrison from Porcupine Tree is up there, EXPERTS say...?
ya mike mangini has no groove steve vai just lets any old drummer joins his band (joking) who ever thinks this is ether retarded or has severe brain damage
@nengsto; Mike Portnoy lost the grip like 10 years ago. eventually he was forced to leave DT. Mangini's in a different league, FAR better than Portnoy ever was !!
@ginjeeimano Not trying to be a jerk, but that statement is very wrong indeed. Magnini, Virgil, and Marco are in a totally different league than Peart and Portnoy. Now they are all great drummers, and do their jobs very well, but ask anyone who knows anything about drumming, and they will tell you that straight up; totally different league... so different, it's frightening.
@ScottyWheels Man,did you see his audition? He played those triplets at the beginning of "Dance of Eternity" (sic) with ONE HAND! He already can play their catalog!
Mangini is the best drummer that ever lived because:
1. He puts all he has in every hit
2. He´s mind is split in 4, unmatched limb indepence
3. Unmatched speed
4. Unmatched theoretical understanding of polyrythms and odd time signatures
5. Can play any style and any known rythm
All the above enables him to create solos, rythms and patterns never heard before. On top of that he´s a showman. And last but not least, he plays AMBIDEXTROUSLY on his symmetrical kit, which is the coolest kit ever..
@nengstro i am, but i admire good taste more that skill in drumming, but skill is very important too in order to play whats in your mind, i can see that his playing here is very complicated but... i just don't feel it man, you know?
@nengstro but still mp is better than him because of one reason. portnoy re-invented the drums... as you said in the 5th thingie about mangini; he can only play known rythms, he cannot invent any. and if there was no portnoy there would be no DT at all... ı know that mangini fans are gonna dislike this, because they know this is the truth
@MultiSasQ mangini came because portnoy gone,,, DT need to move on, but portnoy didnt want it n prefer play with a7x..i like both of them,,, I bought a7x's nightmare album because portnoy is in the band...
@MultiSasQ Either non-attentive / absent minded reader, or a troll; can't tell. The guy said that Mangini "Can play any style and any known rhythm," and that "All the above enables him to create solos, rythms and patterns never heard before." You need to learn to read before you learn to write.
@mediblue9 I don't think Portnoy's being gone is going to change that. I'm sure the band will remain how they've always been. I really have little respect for the guys the way they've sort of shunned Portnoy who like you thought the badn was growing stale and repetitive hence the reason he wanted a break. I love Mangini and right now he's the only member of the band I respect. The rest seem to be in it for the money, since Rock Band more people have bought their stuff. They're selling out.
For drummers this is a joy but to the regular music listener this would become annoying quickly because the beats and rhythm though are complex do not have a body rhythm most can relate to.
Because while he is an incredible player and a very nice guy, he is a bit of a freak. I have seen him play more than one set while wearing a hockey helmet.
Hahahaha People there is a world besides Dream Theater... WTF with the DT cult... the funniest comment is "he could be the next Potential drummer of Dream Theater" @kigawman you clearly didn't know Mike Mangini until now...
Dream Theater is nothing compared to Mangini. Mangini does more in this solo then each member of Dream Theater has done in each of their respective careers combined.
@monkfishstuff Hmm nice joke......even if this is a "best" drum solo (what i really don´t think) i can never do more than a writing songs, lyrics and know playing together as DT :)
@taypax You absolutely are but to say DT "sucks balls" seems an arrogant statement towards a band who's playing skills surpasses most others who ever pick up a musical instrument. Opinions are fine, that statement is trashing a band that if nothing else, deserves respect, even if you don't care for them. :)
@taypax Thanks for being polite, I try to be respectful when I disagree and it's usually met with immaturity and attitude. Nice to see some are more reasonable.
@1972njr no worries...guess i was just trying to rile up the DT fans(maybe after a couple beers)...i don't think they suck at all, just not a huge fan
@taypax LOL, ya know I hate to say this but I think it's the singer, James LaBrie. I usually hear, when introducing them to someone, that they don't care for the vocals. I met him, his ego is WAY too big considering how much more talent the rest of the band has by comparison. Checkout Liquid Tension Experiment if you haven't already. It's the rest of DT, except with Tony Levin on bass. All instrumental.
@1972njr also, i haven't really heard much DT except the hits...but if Mangini's in the band i may have to pay more attention, and i will checkout LTE, thanks
@1972njr Labrie is an amazing guy, very humble and down to earth in my opinion. Ive spoken to him a couple of times. And clearly you havent heard him in their early days, especially live. He easily outshone the rest of the band back then before his vocal injuries! Sorry, got a bit defensive there, his voice certainly takes getting used to,its very high, and so raw, u hear every nuance, most ppl hate him to begin and end up loving his voice. But anyways, mangini is epic, I hope he gets the spot.
@shakalamon uh i agree labrie was good in his early days, but at no point did he ever outshine the musicians in dream theater. that is a stretch even by the biggest james labrie fan
@shakalamon I love LaBrie's early stuff, but as has been stated, he never out-shined the rest of the band. At his best, he was on par with them, and this is shown in the live stuff with the extended solos in Ytse Jam, etc. He was great, but never better than the rest of the guys.
@Captchaos3000 Well maybe outshined is the wrong word. Because they were all incredible. But for examples, on the demos of learning to live, when labrie sings in harmony with petrucci during his solo, no one is listening to petrucci at all, because its just so amazing what labrie is singing. As with the killing hand, the voice is what leaves the lasting impression after the song because its absolutely mindblowing. The other guys are too, but the vocals just demand your attention, I find anyways
Watching him play already gives me a hands down where he could be the next Potential drummer of Dream Theater. His style definitely embodies that of what Mike Portnoy does. Hopefully, he does become the next drummer of DT.
@kigawman I pirated what I thought was Octavarium because I didn't have the money at the time. I didn't find out until much later it was James LaBrie's solo album "Elements of Persuasion" Mike Mangini played drums on it and I was convinced I had DL'd DT until I discovered my error (it came out the same year). I have no doubt he can fill Mike's spot after hearing that CD.
portnoy was very tasteful (subjective), but he does not have these skills.
mangini has 4 brains or he is wired wrong. i am not a drummer, but it easy to see throughout most of this solo that each limb is playing something different and different time signatures. whether you find it tasteful or not is irrelevant: his skill is unmatched.
and to be fair to mangini, he did not compose the drum parts on the new album. the next album will show what he can do for DT.
ishred 1 month ago
mangini is boring compared to portnoy
mangini is just a fast drummer i dont feel anything in those solos
portnoy means alot all this time in all albums i like really like
to be honest not because portnoy left
the new album drametic turns of events really REALLY sucks compared to the older albums
thier music style changed as portnoy wrote almost all thier songs and style
now i see the diffrence,,,,sadness
TheOsirix12 2 months ago
@TheOsirix12 Fucking moron, go away! He did NOT write most of their songs, Petrucci did. He alongside Myung writes 90% of the material, with ruddess doing arrangements and his parts. Portnoy wrote the LYRICS on some songs, but not as often as Petrucci. And Portnoy added some vocals and arrangement input, but very limited as to compositions. I am so SICK AND TIRED of all Portnoy FANBOYS exaggerating his importance to the band, just cos he co-founded the band, and was one of it´s spokespersons!
nengstro 2 months ago
@nengstro i see u real fucking idiot...portnoy were with dream theater from the first album to the black clouds &silver linings
now you say mangini is better then him you fucking dumbass
And about it portnoy write thier songs and petrucci helps him just go and watch who wrote thier songs on each song u fucking bitch
TheOsirix12 2 months ago
@TheOsirix12 Nice caveman english dude..... I HAVE read who is listed on all DT songs, I have all their albums. And petrucci, myung and Portnoy are listed as composers on 99,9 % of the songs, some songs lack ruddess, and quite a few lack Labrie´s participation. What I am saying his HOW MUCH he contributes in the songwriting... to get an idea about that you have to READ articles and INTERVIEWS with the band.... Which I have, and you havent (can you even read?)
nengstro 2 months ago
@nengstro if i could'nt read then i would;nt write my comment nor answering
open your mind
TheOsirix12 2 months ago
@nengstro before u say something stupid here is a part from wiki:"Portnoy had been writing a significant amount of Dream Theater's lyrics"
TheOsirix12 2 months ago
@TheOsirix12 Doesn´t contradict what I wrote initially.... Okay, maybe "some of " the lyrics which I wrote is slightly different than "significant". Still Petrucci have written more of the lyrics. AND, to the point, as to THE MUSIC (which in my book is the key writing in DT, them being a prog rock /semi-instrumental band...). The main riff writers are Petrucci and Myung.
nengstro 2 months ago
one of the worst solo's ive ever heard
sounds like a 3 year old hitting everything randomly, very uninspired
raclimja16 2 months ago
@raclimja16 I could explain polyrythms and odd time signatures for you, but I suggest you travis-boys go back to straight beats and 8 note fills... (dude you can wave your arms while doing it, looks aaaaaaawesome..)
nengstro 2 months ago
@nengstro travis barker?
lololololol
for sure polyrythms and odd time is hard to perform but that doesn't make your a good musician
i just see it like a 3year old boy hitting the drums randomly while having epilepsy
very uninspired sound. mike mangini is nothing more than a fast moving stick.
what i consider musicians are Chris Adler, Mike Portnoy, The Rev, Joel Piper, Joey Jordison, etc...
raclimja16 2 months ago
@raclimja16 Chris and Mike are fine, but they have nothing, NOTHING on Mangini. Don´t slay what you don't understand dude... you will only seem like a a newby in the drumming community. A community in which Mangini has been named one of the "superdrummers", i.e. performing superhuman rythms and meters... leaving the Chris´s and Portnoys in awe.... I might like a nice painting of a sunset, but I don´t understand Picasso, I just simply lack the tools to understand that art form. And so do you
nengstro 2 months ago
@nengstro your the one who don't understand anything, being able to do something is another thing and being a good musician is another thing.
for example, metallica is not hard or very technical but it they are great musicians and their music sound really good and is consider by many as legends and even popular musicians mention them as their influence
raclimja16 2 months ago
TOOOOOOOOOOOO TECHNICAL
TheDice2008 3 months ago
@TheDice2008 The more technical you practice, the better you will be when you just jam.
SnipRif 2 months ago
Mike Mangina
MlKEPORNTOY 3 months ago
travis barker has more power and speed
JOEtheHOTTIE 3 months ago
@JOEtheHOTTIE Your either trolling or retarded... Or both! lol
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@JOEtheHOTTIE Er.... no and no. This guy has won the WFD competition 5 (yeah, fiiiiive..) times. Check your facts before posting, or stay away from commenting.
nengstro 2 months ago
@nengstro ummm yeah like 10 years ago. have you seen his drumming when he auditioned for dream theater? it's pathetic. get over it fanboy.
JOEtheHOTTIE 2 months ago
@JOEtheHOTTIE I know 4 other Mangini fanboys. The ones that CHOSE him as their drummer. If you don´t trust their judgement you are not a true Dream Theater fan. I am though a DT FAN, even a "fanboy" if you like, WTF ever that means... Not accepting DTs ability to assess a drummers capacity and creative potential, and stubbornly sticking to "the old and known", that, my friend, makes YOU a portnoy fanboy! Lol
nengstro 2 months ago
@nengstro you left that he play in the best band ever!
curziorufo 4 months ago
outstanding
lartinso 4 months ago
INCREDIBLE....
vergueiroPT 5 months ago
"...and far more TECHNICALLY and THEORETICALLY skilled than Portnoy". I guess you are just a Mangini fanboy. Both Portnoy and Mangini is one of THE best drummers in the world. And they both have different playstyles. But if you know how good Portnoy really is, you should know that NO ONE can have "FAR MORE" technic and skills. To say one is better then the other is just stating a personal opinion and not a fact. Both are worldclass and so tight there are no room for better or worse.
nyqa 6 months ago
@nyqa except that portnoy himself states that mangini is technically superior to him...
rhythmatist2013 6 months ago
@rhythmatist2013 Portnoy has some licks, techinque and the ability to play in odd time. What he doesn't have is feel and originality. He's the 'Black Crows' of prog rock drumming. Meaning, he rips a bit of this one and that one with no room of originality for himself.
stevedrums 5 months ago
@nyqa Er... and you are just a Portnoy fanboy... Since you feel the need to defend him with the - "we are all equal and good at something" approach. Get real dude - "no one can have far more technic and skills".... Are you from Mars or Pluto? Of course they can, drums are built up my rudiments and rythmic skills and being able to separate your limbs. Check out MMs solo on the new tour where he plays polyrythmic figures with his right arm over the rest of his limbs - which MP simply can´t do!
nengstro 5 months ago 2
@nengstro Thankyou. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Fredthedrummer21 2 months ago
unreal!!
drumcrazy55 6 months ago
You guys can check out Mangini's Steve Vai solo for a good example of his skill set.
djlivingfire 6 months ago
Well I think we all agree that Portnoy is a bad motherfucker. Specific to DT he was the band's Prime mover in my opinion. However, Mangini is doing things that go above and beyond Portnoy from a technical aspect, and that is not debatable. As far as what is tasteful or relevant, that's subjective; both are monsters. What must be admitted is that skill levels exist, and some are more skillful than others. Mangini has more skill than Portnoy. Whether that makes him better is up for debate.
djlivingfire 6 months ago
@djlivingfire The best comment i ha ever read
tsubasa1988 6 months ago
My top 3 drummers ever:
Mike Mangini - Dream Theater.
Jimmy "The Rev" - Avenged Sevenfold.
Travis Barker - Blink 182.
ItsQuagmire1 6 months ago
as the drummer of DT, his skills will increase exponentially... scary stuff!
tmayne220 6 months ago
Time to eat your words Portnoy bashers, here is DT's new single: "On the backs of Angels"
The whole time I listened to I thought what Portnoy would be doing, Mangini is good, but no where near Portnoy.
Yadooba 6 months ago
@Yadooba
Oh yeah, I forgot you and Mike Portnoy had a superhuman telepathic connection. Seriously though, you have no idea what portnoy would have been doing in that song.
Herzeleid3000 6 months ago
@Yadooba
Nowhere near Portnoy is correct. Mangini is so far beyond Portnoy its almost sad. This guy is in a class all his own. If you understand what you're hearing you will have to acknowledge that fact. Otherwise you're just stating an opinion of taste, not competence. Mangini owns Portnoy in every friggin language.
djlivingfire 6 months ago
@djlivingfire Trust me man I am a drummer, not a very good one, but I still know that Mike Portnoy blow this guy out of the water, this is like compering Neil Pert with Lars. Listen to "The best of times", "A Nightmare to Remember", "War inside my Head", "Take me as I am", and "Dark Eternal Night". DT will never be the same with Mangini, it will from now on be great drumming instead of completely epic drumming. I have been listening to him for several years now, and he is in a league own.
Yadooba 6 months ago
@Yadooba Um...no. Portnoy, nor anyone else, will "blow this guy out of the water." I agree that Portnoy has a skill set all his own, and is at the apex of the pyramid. But I too am a musician, and a skilled one, and believe me when I say that Mangini is executing things that are going unnoticed because they are simply so slickly executed it SEEMS simple. Trust me it isn't. The only other drummer in Mangini's technical league is Thomas Lang. Portnoy does great things, but he's not this.
djlivingfire 6 months ago
@djlivingfire Continued comment... You can say he is better at solos (Although I don't think he is) but his beat diffidently not as good. If you think he is better then that is great, but DT will never be the same to me, Portnoy was my drum hero. Just like Micheal Romeo is my guitar hero.
Yadooba 6 months ago
@Yadooba Er...how do you figure from that song, where Mangini plays what fits best, that Portnoy is better?? You LIKE Portnoy more obviously since he is more to your taste, but he does not have the same skillset, speed, ambidexterity, polyrythms etc... thats a fact. Portnoy has a huge following, that too is a fact. But so does Britney Spears....
nengstro 5 months ago
@nengstro I figure from the fact that it does not have a complex beat such as the ones Portnoy supplies, a beat that many metal drummers could perform... Speed, There about even I think, and as far ambidexterity, dude that guy could play with one foot on the bass pedal, one foot playing drums while helping him eat a sandwich (And still use the double bass), and using both his hands do a rhythms using every part of a 40 piece drum set... By the way I play both guitar and drums. *Ran out of text*
Yadooba 5 months ago
That is the dorkiest hair I've seen in years, and I don't understand why his mic has the largest windscreen ever made for a headset mic, but he's a pretty good drummer. Just keep him in a hole in the stage where no one can see him and it's all good.
sfam 6 months ago
@sfam since it was 1998, things (hairstyles and windscreen mic technology) have changed. Hopefully, they;re better. But you're wrong about him not being seen, he definitely deserves to be seen.
WilliamsBallMusic 6 months ago
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sfam 6 months ago
i really like Mike Mangini too!
nate9503 6 months ago
Mangini would be a perfect Slipknot drummer, but not Dream Theater...
JoChains 7 months ago
@JoChains Ew. OMG NO! Do you know who those 2 bands are? That is an awful idea lol
metaldrummer47 6 months ago
@JoChains He laughs in the face of simple straight chrunch-metal like Slipknot... Mangini is a lot more COMPLEX of a drummer, and far more TECHNICALLY and THEORETICALLY skilled than Portnoy. Hell, he kicks the asses of Tomas Lang and Marco Minneman! He is (was) a PROFESSOR in persussion prior to DT...There is a reason why Mangini was one of the chosen "Superdrummers" in drumhead magazine.... Portnoy was for sure not even considered... Dont even mention Slipknot in this context...
nengstro 6 months ago
@nengstro this are the big leagues indeed, here just few in the world had a chance to play, and Slipknot drummer is certainly no one of them
tsubasa1988 6 months ago
He has more groove then Mike Portnoy had (wow, what an achievement :P), lets hope he doesn't lose it playing with Dream Theater...
Kholdaimon 7 months ago in playlist drum solo
Is this ONE person ?
Ronnymylle 7 months ago
Mike Mangini the Superman of drums
lipeguitars 7 months ago
awsom drummer ... great
blanker666 7 months ago
He is no Portnoy... Great, now all DT songs are going to have bongos.
Yadooba 7 months ago
@Yadooba Mike P. uses bongos too. (I'm not drummer, but I thinks he has some.)
FRsleepwalker 7 months ago
I didn like him much :(
oxymor0n1 7 months ago
great drummer, i just hate how symmetrical his setup is.
gozac123 7 months ago
I think this guy can do Portnoy's drum fills using only one hand!
ilovemysr505 7 months ago
Outstanding solo!,,,,Mastered the one hand rolls to perfection!
beatsdddx 7 months ago 2
Its gonna be interesting to see him in Dream Theater! :D
LexonyAble 7 months ago 2
at first I thought he had a sandwich in his mouth..
antibulletdodger101 8 months ago
mike mangini betcha can't play this.
TheSlayerito 8 months ago
Portnoy can't touch this.
GalloPinz 8 months ago 2
@GalloPinz Glad to see people like you on YT that understand drums!, I am sick and tired of people making a saint out of Portnoy, even though he had his thing going. Not to mention the J Jordison following..... please save us all from them
nengstro 7 months ago
@ginjeeimano; Honestly, I think Portnoy is second to none. There are so many great drummers around. Neil peart is probably the very best. I thought Virgil was brilliant when he played with Steve Vai. amazingly he did not make a great audition this time. Gadd is also up there, and most probably another dozen drummers. A question like this is equal to "what is best, pizza, hamburger or chicken...?" peace - Rock on.. ;)
rhesuspluss 8 months ago
@rhesuspluss Yes, I agree with you basically,, but,, no one plays like this, no one, he is the first to play two different time signatures sort of, two rhythm's going on at once. Also, he reverses his sweeps and sweeps his bass and high hat and slows down his top of set sweeping, simply never done before!!
geetarnut 8 months ago 2
@geetarnut I will not disagree on what you say about Portnoy. The Metropolis 2000 show is for me the greatest metal show of all times. But still,I think the man lost THAT grip during the next 10 years. We've seen the auditions, -so many great candidates to chose from. "experts" say J Jordison from Slipknot is #1.
My private prog metal expert says it will not be a BIG problem for DT to replace Portnoy. 12-15 drummers could do the job.Let's just hope the band picked the right candidate ;)
rhesuspluss 8 months ago
@rhesuspluss No EXPERTS say J Jordison is no 1!!! He´s a hack, a mediocre metal drummer in a very visible and popular band, that´s all. In the drumming community Jordison is maybe a 2 or a 3 on a scale of 10, where Mangini is 10 out of 10 alongside drumming giants such as Benny Greb, Tony Royster Jr, Tomas Lang, Simon Phillips, Dave Weckl etc. Mentioning Joey in this context is an insult to all aspiring drummers true to the craft.
nengstro 7 months ago 2
@nengstro thank you for commenting. I'm quite humble to this issue, I can't put words to terms inside drumming. English is not even my native language. But I DO like prog, metal etc and I follow DT, I listen to rock all day. I have ears ;) question for you; where would you place Portnoy, at his best, compared to these great names you come up with. The same scale, would you give him 9/10 ?? Neil Pert belongs at top of your scale??? Harrison from Porcupine Tree is up there, EXPERTS say...?
rhesuspluss 7 months ago
he is a beast
stbojan 8 months ago
ya mike mangini has no groove steve vai just lets any old drummer joins his band (joking) who ever thinks this is ether retarded or has severe brain damage
TKG1201 8 months ago
@nengsto; Mike Portnoy lost the grip like 10 years ago. eventually he was forced to leave DT. Mangini's in a different league, FAR better than Portnoy ever was !!
rhesuspluss 8 months ago 2
@rhesuspluss aww cmon...dont say portnoy is less than mangini...i dont like to rank them both...
mangini, portnoy, marco, virgil, peart are on the same league
ginjeeimano 8 months ago 4
@ginjeeimano Not trying to be a jerk, but that statement is very wrong indeed. Magnini, Virgil, and Marco are in a totally different league than Peart and Portnoy. Now they are all great drummers, and do their jobs very well, but ask anyone who knows anything about drumming, and they will tell you that straight up; totally different league... so different, it's frightening.
Fredthedrummer21 2 months ago
@Fredthedrummer21 well, it can be..but i guess there isn't much of a big gap between them
ginjeeimano 2 months ago
@nengstro I do understand drums and I don't care if hes better. Mike Portnoy was Dream Theater and I dont wanna hear an album without Mike Portnoy.
mikeish4 8 months ago
I think that DT will do VERY GOOD and NEW things with this monster
MasticArte 8 months ago 2
This Mangini is ALIEN!
shiwa048 8 months ago
he's great and all... but he has no taste (no groove)
ryonafan 8 months ago
I am starting to think he have 3 arms :P
Mixteradk 8 months ago
Hard to fill Portnoys sticks, so his time with Dream Theater will be interesting. He's got A LOT of studying to do...A LOT!!!!
I couldn't imagine trying to fully memorize Dream Theaters work...talk about pressure!
He is good though, although I agree about the plastic sound to his drums...LOL!
ScottyWheels 8 months ago
@ScottyWheels Man,did you see his audition? He played those triplets at the beginning of "Dance of Eternity" (sic) with ONE HAND! He already can play their catalog!
mrthundaboots 8 months ago
Mangini is the best drummer that ever lived because:
1. He puts all he has in every hit
2. He´s mind is split in 4, unmatched limb indepence
3. Unmatched speed
4. Unmatched theoretical understanding of polyrythms and odd time signatures
5. Can play any style and any known rythm
All the above enables him to create solos, rythms and patterns never heard before. On top of that he´s a showman. And last but not least, he plays AMBIDEXTROUSLY on his symmetrical kit, which is the coolest kit ever..
nengstro 8 months ago 31
@nengstro 8(... yeah right... hes skilled but he has no taste (no groove) in my opinion
ryonafan 8 months ago
@ryonafan I am guessing your not a drummer
nengstro 8 months ago
@nengstro i am, but i admire good taste more that skill in drumming, but skill is very important too in order to play whats in your mind, i can see that his playing here is very complicated but... i just don't feel it man, you know?
ryonafan 8 months ago
@nengstro nope jory jordison
drago8296 6 months ago
@nengstro
you couldn't have said it better!!
foad6661 5 months ago
@nengstro but still mp is better than him because of one reason. portnoy re-invented the drums... as you said in the 5th thingie about mangini; he can only play known rythms, he cannot invent any. and if there was no portnoy there would be no DT at all... ı know that mangini fans are gonna dislike this, because they know this is the truth
MultiSasQ 4 months ago
@MultiSasQ mangini came because portnoy gone,,, DT need to move on, but portnoy didnt want it n prefer play with a7x..i like both of them,,, I bought a7x's nightmare album because portnoy is in the band...
tejacavalera 4 months ago
@MultiSasQ Either non-attentive / absent minded reader, or a troll; can't tell. The guy said that Mangini "Can play any style and any known rhythm," and that "All the above enables him to create solos, rythms and patterns never heard before." You need to learn to read before you learn to write.
tudormihalache1 2 months ago
I dont even have words to explain this performance. By far an upgrade compared to Portnoy.
xPrOFeSsi0NaL 8 months ago
DLEEM TIATAA
FIRST MIKE, NOW MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKEEE!!!!!!
MADEINMAIDEN 8 months ago
DLEEM TIATAA
MADEINMAIDEN 8 months ago
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I will not listen to dream theater without mike portnoy
mikeish4 9 months ago
@mikeish4 That's your decision to live in the past. I personally can't wait, because Dream Theater has become nothing but stale and repeating scales!
mediblue9 9 months ago
@mediblue9 I don't think Portnoy's being gone is going to change that. I'm sure the band will remain how they've always been. I really have little respect for the guys the way they've sort of shunned Portnoy who like you thought the badn was growing stale and repetitive hence the reason he wanted a break. I love Mangini and right now he's the only member of the band I respect. The rest seem to be in it for the money, since Rock Band more people have bought their stuff. They're selling out.
DMCMaster550 9 months ago
@mikeish4 Means you don´t understand drums dude... Mangini wipes out Portnoy with one hand
nengstro 8 months ago
i like his style...but hes drumkit sounds like its completely made out of fuckin plastic -.-
petra07 9 months ago
good god. ridiculous. I quit. Lol! this guy is un-fucking-real. no wonder he got the DT gig...... only bozzio has this kind of 4-way. Cripes!
drumdude46 9 months ago
CONGRATULATIONS TO MIKE MANGINI THE NEW DREAM THEATER
fabaixista 9 months ago
S.O.S.
DaddyBahmani 9 months ago
CONGRATS MIKE! YOU WILL LIFT DT TO A NEW HIGH! AND I WILL START LISTENING TO THEM AGAIN ...
nengstro 9 months ago
Mike Mangina.
Just messing, the guy's a genius
Santaslave666 9 months ago
CONGRATS to Mike from a past student :D
The mangineius is a manchine ...mangini the machiney
trickyrawricky 9 months ago
the kick drum part sounds like a little faster of "The Mirror" from DT's Awake album .
Mutantjz 9 months ago
how many brains does mangini have? damn!
shiwa048 9 months ago
carlos tevez?
progessive99 9 months ago
the animal!
posaunix 9 months ago
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If you wanna see his audition for Dream Theater,go to drummerworld. It's amazing!
mrthundaboots 9 months ago
muito foda toca d+
EXECUTOR fofão
made in brazil
ospodraozonaleste 9 months ago
Mike Mangini. My respects for you¡. Thank you for being a drummer. I´m a drummer too and you are one of my inspirations. Thank you¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
mix3848 9 months ago
Mangini = DT
xabishabby90 9 months ago
This is immense...I was actually there...MENTAL!
MrMeldiablo 9 months ago
For drummers this is a joy but to the regular music listener this would become annoying quickly because the beats and rhythm though are complex do not have a body rhythm most can relate to.
blitzspeer 9 months ago
This happens when you grow 4 brains in only one head....
ytsebam 9 months ago 70
@ytsebam And not one of them sane.
teachingfeller 8 months ago
Oh my dear mother. He is dividing the beat divisions between both legs and his upper body.
I thought it was impossible...
RaidonSama 9 months ago 4
@RaidonSama He's doing twos with both feet, fives on his hands, with cymbal hits in between the fives. This man is a god.
Captchaos3000 9 months ago 2
chato demais
LucasYahn 9 months ago
Listen also the following James LaBrie's albums:
Mullmuzzler - Keep It To Yourself (1999)---drummer: Mike Mangini
Mullmuzzler - Mullmuzzler 2 (2001)---drummer: Mike Mangini
Tim Donahue - Madmen & Sinners (2004)---drummer: Mike Mangini
James LaBrie - Elements of Persuasion (2005)---drummer: Mike Mangini
and then:
Tribute To Rush - Subdivisions (2005)---drummer: Mike Mangini
........
MauroBattaglio 10 months ago
Bass drum mikes out?
Xardox17 10 months ago
he moves with the speed of light...
Aaahjah 10 months ago
separating your mind into 4 parts as a drummer. 1 on the left foot, 1 on ryt, 1 on left hand, and another for the right.
luzier13x 10 months ago
Why has he got a sugarcube stuck on the end of his mic? Still brilliant drumming from a brilliant drummer.
paulwall1981 1 year ago
@paulwall1981
Because while he is an incredible player and a very nice guy, he is a bit of a freak. I have seen him play more than one set while wearing a hockey helmet.
TimMcGrath74 1 year ago
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mike mangini's is a great drummer yall go check out my drum videos
dm6testa777 1 year ago
1:26 mary had a little lamb?!
TrakeBake 1 year ago 48
eeeergh boring
MCshlthead 1 year ago
thats my teacher!!!! :P
and yeah please dont compare to mike portnoy. this guy probably taught him.
pricesmithmusic 1 year ago
Hahahaha People there is a world besides Dream Theater... WTF with the DT cult... the funniest comment is "he could be the next Potential drummer of Dream Theater" @kigawman you clearly didn't know Mike Mangini until now...
blonep 1 year ago
the only thing i dont like is his hair...
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago
Now this was impressive. It just lacked a nice groove.
Lexcoaster 1 year ago
Dream Theater is nothing compared to Mangini. Mangini does more in this solo then each member of Dream Theater has done in each of their respective careers combined.
monkfishstuff 1 year ago
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@monkfishstuff You know nothing, about anything.
Rhys96 1 year ago
@monkfishstuff Hmm nice joke......even if this is a "best" drum solo (what i really don´t think) i can never do more than a writing songs, lyrics and know playing together as DT :)
IMagineF 1 year ago
yeah he's alright i guess but lars ulrich is way better.....ha jk mangini FTW!!
BEASTMACHIN3 1 year ago
MANGINI FOR DREAM THEATER.
Peartyboy 1 year ago
@Peartyboy Dream Theater don't deserve Mike Mangini.
Exterminans777 1 year ago
@Exterminans777 Mangini doesn't deserve DT, but we'll let him in for now.
Rhys96 1 year ago
@Rhys96 STFU, dumbass.
Exterminans777 1 year ago
@Exterminans777 Oh dear, did I make you cry by offending your favourite drummer? Get a life faggot
Rhys96 1 year ago
@Rhys96 No. I have a life and no, I'm not a faggot.
lol.
Exterminans777 1 year ago
@Exterminans777 Well in that case I apologise and bid good-day to you, Sir.
Rhys96 1 year ago
@Rhys96 he blows Portnoy away
taypax 11 months ago
@taypax Different styles perhaps but I still prefer Portnoy.
Rhys96 10 months ago
@Rhys96 agreed, I was a little harsh...Portnoy is very good
taypax 10 months ago
@Exterminans777 he's better than Portnoy...DT sucks balls
taypax 11 months ago
@taypax Try saying that with my foot up your arse, :)
surfertron20000 9 months ago
@surfertron20000 sorry...not a fan
taypax 9 months ago
@taypax If you think you have room to make such a statement, lets see your super musician skills
1972njr 9 months ago
@1972njr never claimed to be good, but i am entitled to my opinion
taypax 9 months ago
@taypax You absolutely are but to say DT "sucks balls" seems an arrogant statement towards a band who's playing skills surpasses most others who ever pick up a musical instrument. Opinions are fine, that statement is trashing a band that if nothing else, deserves respect, even if you don't care for them. :)
1972njr 9 months ago
@1972njr fair enough
taypax 9 months ago
@taypax Thanks for being polite, I try to be respectful when I disagree and it's usually met with immaturity and attitude. Nice to see some are more reasonable.
Keep rockin' whatever it is you DO like :)
1972njr 9 months ago
@1972njr no worries...guess i was just trying to rile up the DT fans(maybe after a couple beers)...i don't think they suck at all, just not a huge fan
taypax 9 months ago
@taypax LOL, ya know I hate to say this but I think it's the singer, James LaBrie. I usually hear, when introducing them to someone, that they don't care for the vocals. I met him, his ego is WAY too big considering how much more talent the rest of the band has by comparison. Checkout Liquid Tension Experiment if you haven't already. It's the rest of DT, except with Tony Levin on bass. All instrumental.
1972njr 9 months ago
@1972njr also, i haven't really heard much DT except the hits...but if Mangini's in the band i may have to pay more attention, and i will checkout LTE, thanks
taypax 9 months ago
@1972njr Labrie is an amazing guy, very humble and down to earth in my opinion. Ive spoken to him a couple of times. And clearly you havent heard him in their early days, especially live. He easily outshone the rest of the band back then before his vocal injuries! Sorry, got a bit defensive there, his voice certainly takes getting used to,its very high, and so raw, u hear every nuance, most ppl hate him to begin and end up loving his voice. But anyways, mangini is epic, I hope he gets the spot.
shakalamon 9 months ago
@shakalamon uh i agree labrie was good in his early days, but at no point did he ever outshine the musicians in dream theater. that is a stretch even by the biggest james labrie fan
BOOLsheet 9 months ago
@shakalamon I love LaBrie's early stuff, but as has been stated, he never out-shined the rest of the band. At his best, he was on par with them, and this is shown in the live stuff with the extended solos in Ytse Jam, etc. He was great, but never better than the rest of the guys.
Captchaos3000 9 months ago
@Captchaos3000 Well maybe outshined is the wrong word. Because they were all incredible. But for examples, on the demos of learning to live, when labrie sings in harmony with petrucci during his solo, no one is listening to petrucci at all, because its just so amazing what labrie is singing. As with the killing hand, the voice is what leaves the lasting impression after the song because its absolutely mindblowing. The other guys are too, but the vocals just demand your attention, I find anyways
shakalamon 9 months ago
this guy has been laying it down for yrs, sick
drummerg2 1 year ago
Watching him play already gives me a hands down where he could be the next Potential drummer of Dream Theater. His style definitely embodies that of what Mike Portnoy does. Hopefully, he does become the next drummer of DT.
kigawman 1 year ago
@kigawman I pirated what I thought was Octavarium because I didn't have the money at the time. I didn't find out until much later it was James LaBrie's solo album "Elements of Persuasion" Mike Mangini played drums on it and I was convinced I had DL'd DT until I discovered my error (it came out the same year). I have no doubt he can fill Mike's spot after hearing that CD.
1972njr 9 months ago
He sort of a combination of Simon Phillips and Terry Bozzio, that's a good thing
stickstam 1 year ago
missing plugin wtf
Hans1994yout 1 year ago
YES!!
StickyInADarkBlueCut 1 year ago
Mangini is a FREAK!!!
jcbacongrease 1 year ago
cosa' in bocca?
necterium 1 year ago
I just LOVE this solo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Selenasjtvnns 1 year ago
hihat input at 1:33 is so epic
grgo00 1 year ago
If Mike goes to hell when he dies...He can drum his way out of it...
ThElitE 1 year ago
I am dont understand Why so many People think Joey was the best Drummer every where????
MyBlacksoul666 1 year ago
THIS WAY OF USING DRUMS ASS MELODIC INSTRUMENTS AND NOT AS RYTHM INSTRUMENTS ITS UNIQUE AND COOL BUT AT CERTAIN POINT IT BECAME BORRING.