Manuel Fernandez plays Webern Piano Variations, op.27

[Hero0fSilence]

If this music sounds to you like traffic accidents it is because you are not listening like you should. Listen to the intervals, not for the tonic. Theres no tonic, so its like trying to judge a pizza like if it was a waffle. "where is my honey? this thing has cheese, its like a kitchen accident!". Indeed, I have found more love in Boulez, he is most gentle and playful! And after all, what music has done since it started is progressing. But hey, maybe Ockeghem wouldve called Bach destructive!

[KhagarBalugrak]

This is a terrible piece. You're a gifted pianist, you shouldn't waste your time with this.

[Hero0fSilence]

@KhagarBalugrak It is not as terrible as living 200 years without musical progression. In the medieval times chords did not have thirds, the conservative harmony was limited to 5ths. In the baroque times there were accidentals and things like those, but chords would have never included a 7th, and modulation was always properly bridged. If you think that 19th century music is so perfect that it requires no further developing then you are a terrible artist.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@Hero0fSilence, what you call "progress" is progress toward a musical style - atonal music - that has been scientifically proven to harm living creatures. As such, you are the terrible artist for promoting this kind of anti-music and for not having the intuition to realize it is destructive, ugly, and worthless.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@Hero0fSilence, it is so typical these days for some classical musicians to define musical progress as progress toward more and more destructive forms of "music". This definition of progress is really borrowed from the ideology and essence of corporate capitalism and military technophilia, which also define progress as the ability to develop more and more sophisticated and efficient methods of destruction and control, and which have banished compassion and conscience from the modern world.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@Hero0fSilence, music that sounds like traffic accidents and industrial warfare is not better or more evolved than harmonious, gentle, loving music. That is a fact, and no matter what you say or convince yourself of, you can't change this fact. It's a pity people like you don't put your musical intellects toward something constructive and beneficial. You could actually be a positive force if you did.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@Hero0fSilence, as George Orwell wrote in his book 1984, which has proved so prophetic, "Progress in this world will be progress toward more pain." This sums up the idea that more and more dissonance in music - that which makes music harsh and, in large doses, ugly and destructive - is progress. That's not progress, that's profound regression to a state of musical barbarism! Civilized hearts and minds do not even go near such destructive music.

[Hero0fSilence]

@KhagarBalugrak It is true, we shouldnt degenerate music with regression. Civilized hearts will never use such beethovenian tonality. Circle of fourths? Harmonic seconds? forgotten! And Mozart! His dissonant works! And thirds! Naughty Haendel, naughty Vivaldi, too dissonant! Too much 'beat' in the harmonies! And never mind fifths too! We should only play unison harmonies! Only octaves! We have progressed too our doom! To regression! To noise! 7th chords are omens of death!!! yyaargh!!

[KhagarBalugrak]

@Hero0fSilence, you fool, I'm not arguing against Baroque music. Baroque, Classical, and Romantic music have all been scientifically proven to be good for living things. Why? I did the experiment myself.

But if scientific evidence means nothing to you, then keep on thinking what you want to think. You should respect science - it's what's allowing you to post comments here!

[petezilla]

@KhagarBalugrak Science?? But it is science that is responsible for industrial destruction, not Webern!! This is art you guys are talking about - progress happens in the world and artists express themselves while living in whatever time they live in.

In your studies, are you sure that you didn't project your expectations onto the lifeforms? I read once that in experiments, plants would react adversely if you thought about burning them regularly.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@petezilla, well, actually, no, I loved those plants. And yes, you might have a very slight adverse reaction if you don't iike your plants...but it's not going to cause them all to die like the plants did in the experiments. Well, not unless you hit them and scream at them, which I assure you the researchers did not do to the plants.

Yes, science is responsible for the world's destruction, but this kind of music merely mirrors the destructiveness of science. The experiments prove it.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@petezilla, I really don't like being the bearer of bad news. But science has proven that modern music - especially rock music - is destructive. I know this is not rock music, but it's disturbing that so-called "high culture" pretty much exclusively produces music that is still destructive (atonal music).

To be fair, rock music kills plants much quicker than this kind of music. But atonal music does kill them all the same.

[KhagarBalugrak]

@petezilla, I can tell you why both rock and atonal music are destructive to living things. It's the result of what could only be called harshness. In rock music, the quality of the sound is harsh - the electric guitar often sounds like a car engine. In atonal music, it's the harmonic language that is harsh. As proof of this, I should point out that rock music songs played on acoustic strings cause plants to thrive. So it's not complexity, but gentleness that makes music great.

[petezilla]

@KhagarBalugrak This all makes sense, and I do remember also reading that rock was the number one plant killer. It probably has to do with overtones (electric guitar music is full of unruly overtones). I still feel though, that if a fish grows three eyes in polluted water, it's not the fishes fault, and also not necessarily ugly : )

[KhagarBalugrak]

@petezilla, I would also like to thank you for being civilized in your response, and for discussing this issue rationally. I can't tell you the number of people I've talked to who reject the results of scientific experiments if they prove something they don't want to believe.

[shayanmokhtarani]

I liked it, It's good, but it needs more dynamic and tension

[saotomi5102]

This was good....but not great. No hay emocion!!!! You look so dandy, be intense.

[cscunha1984]

Grande Manuel! Abrazo

[micash86]

Ich kauf dir deine Interpretation nicht ab...sry...

[manuelfernandezkrk]

@micash86 es mir wirklig egal :-)

[bceugene]

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