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I dont understand? You think supporting a candidate that speaks the truth on EVERYTHING is a waste? I think its the most patriotic thing I could possibly do. Thanks for your ignorant comment though.
My Cuban ancestry is Taino Indian (Arrowak). Dennis Kucinich voted AGAINST the Easter Band of Cherokee Indian Land Exchange Act of 2002 (HR 1409). I have two Tsalagi (Cherokee) contacts one from the Smokey Moutain Band and the other Easter Band and both agreed that Ron Paul was on the right side of this vote!!!
With all your various ancestry, you are a good example of why INTERNATIONALISM, rather than NATIONALISM, is the vision forward. Native Americans were here before the Constitutionalists, so by all rights, if we "return" to anything, it should be to return to the ways of the native people - ways that didn't decimate populations of life on earth, turn forests into gated communities for white bigots and feed cows ground-up animal parts. ONLY KUCINICH GETS IT RIGHT FOR OUR FUTURE.
Ask RP supporters what would happen to this nations public school system under their vision. Or about crumbling infrastructure (bridges and highways). Or about current federal protections for historically oppressed, like blacks, women, Asians, Hispanics... Ron Paul has no answers for us. He's a anti-abortion, anti-humanitarian Republican who wants to protect the money of those who have it and believes Darwinism and guns will work things out. Maybe for HIM; but not for ME.
Eso: I'm Afro-Cuban and Irish, so don't lecture me about minority "needs. You do understand that Kucinich was pro-life most of his career and he voted in favor of Pro-Life Fed Funded Bills. It doesn't matter if Ron Paul is Pro-Life because he never votes to regulate abortion pro or con. He has both a perfect Pro-Life and Pro-Choice voting record according to the Constitution. Dennis is a flip-flopper.
Octo: If your argument is valid - that since your ancestral heritage has minority ties, than I'm a woman. Don't lecture me about what Ron Paul "offers" women. You mention that Kucinich was "pro-life" most of his career, well he sure "ain't" now, but Ron Paul is very clear about his bias against women controlling their own reproductive lives. His position has less to do with economics (which is rarely part of his rhetoric in this regard), and more to do with his PERSONAL aversion to abortion.
Eso: I homeschooled my daughter -- She started college at 12 yrs old. She is transferring in '08 to go to Davis or Cal Berkeley. She is not gifted. Public Education (after 12 years) prepares children for minimum wage. Privatize it so people compete for the right to educate your child, instead of the tenure and budgetary tract method. Public Education = Minimum Wage, Private = Could mean Higher Wages
Dennis Kucinich voted down the Eastern Cherokee Band and the land exchange they wanted/needed to build schools and bring wealth to the Rez!!! Ron Paul voted in favor of this. I have to contacts one an Eastern Band and the other Smokey Mountain Band and both were in favor of the Land Exchange Bill -- Ron Paul 2008
As an anonymous poster, your comments can be as convenient as you need them to be to make a point unrelated to the reality for millions of others. Thank you for clarifying that Ron Paul is NOT IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR THE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WHO WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO REGULAR EDUCATION AT ALL WITHOUT IT.
So, Octo, you believe NO eduction is better than a Public education? And a 12-year-old college student is not gifted, but simply prospers from your correct perspective? ugh...Please enlighten us all as to what your understanding is of the history of public education? Do you have any idea what the situation was BEFORE public education? Because that's the ONLY fact we need to know. Not your theories of what you would LIKE to be the facts...
I am not happy with the lack of funding for public education and the ridiculous barriers set up to keep good teachers from teaching creatively because of cynical legislation like "No Child Left Behind" - which is meant to make robots of our kids, but that's not the problem with the concept of public education. It's a problem of elected officials with the wrong priorities. KUCINICH has the RIGHT priorities.
My children have experienced both private and public schools (began in Montessori and then transferred). I was fortunate to decide, because private Montessori was expensive, but had the Montessori curriculum been offered in public schools in Des Moines I would have opted for that. Diversity - not just racial/cultural, but also economic - is important to the education of my kids. I prefer public school and the people there, even though it suffers from economic hardships.
Eso: You are blind. Kucinich voted for every Nation Building Schema that Clinton proposed! Kucinich voted for Military Construction Bills that in part sent monies to Iraq to build bases there -- Ron Paul voted these down. I'm anti-Nation Builder and so is Ron Paul. Kucinich is in favor of the "Fairness Doctrine" - Hitler had a "Fairness Doctrine" it eliminates free-speech for regulated speech. Wake up!
Octo, On the Fairness Doctrine: (Part 1) "A license permits broadcasting, but the licensee has no constitutional right to be the one who holds the license or to monopolize a... frequency to the exclusion of his fellow citizens.
Octo, On the Fairness Doctrine (PART II): There is nothing in the First Amendment which prevents the Government from requiring a licensee to share his frequency with others.... It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the right of the broadcasters, which is paramount." U.S. Supreme Court, upholding the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine 1969.
Eso: You thouroughly do not understand the Constitution. I need to spend my time talking with people who want to "discuss" -- You are in favor of Kucinich and I am in favor for Ron Paul, we should agree to disagree.
And I think agreeing to disagree is exactly what I - and others who have pointed out that Ron Paul supporters try to take over Kucinich message boards) have been complaining about. You either assume Kucinich supporters aren't educated and resolute in our support of Kucinich, or you want to distract us from fighting the real fight - against Clinton and Obama and Edwards and the mainstream media.
Octo - I will wish you well in the Republican election and will be one of those who criticizes any effort to shut down Ron Paul by the mainstream media. I DO believe that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich truly represent best our respective party affiliations and core beliefs about how government should be run. Good luck to you.
Octo, Kucinich is a THINKER, and rarely (never that I can see now) goes with any "black and white" stance when it comes to policy. He actually READS legislation and makes an educated decision that is based on his dedication to humanitarian and internationalist sanity. I consider such people as having EVOLVED beyond simplistic "all-or-nothing" ideologies. Why don't you explain what you believe HR 1409 would have done, and why you believe Kucinich voted against it.
Octo, Whenever anyone says they have "contacts" or "ancestry/family," they want us to assume they are experts, no matter what their perspective. ABOVE ALL, I consider perspective. If you are right wing and fighting for privitization, you most likely will clash with humanitarians, humanists, historians and internationalists. That's why YOU support Republican Ron Paul, and I support Democrat Dennis Kucinich.
Eso: "Contacts" is not a good debate tool, however, you are speaking out of the side of your neck when it comes to Cuba -- You have nothing but left-wing reports. I will sight my sources so you and others can decide for yourselves. My "contacts" (relatives) offer humanistic perspective. Che was an animal and no Cuban misses him, only Communist Sheople do.
You mean no Cuban who chose to leave Cuba misses Che. Che was a revolutionary of great integrity, and someone people the world over read, study and hold as proof that tyrannical governments and big governments cannot win in the end over the will of the people.
You insinuate that because Dennis Kucinich voted against HR 1409 that he is therefore not supportive of Native Americans. I happen to know better. You could just as easily try to lead people astray by suggesting anyone who votes against Bush's "Clean Air Act" is against clean air. Don't be misled! Dennis Kucinich would serve the rights and interests of Native Americans very well.
Eso: Number 1 -- Ron Paul stood against all Clinton's Nation Building Schemas and World Policing actions -- Ron Paul also stood against all of Pres. Bush's Nation Building Schemas and World Policing actions -- I don't see your point here!!
Ron Paul supporters campaign to take over Dennis Kucinich video sites, trying to pull support from him and gain support for Paul. But make no mistake, they are against the Iraq war for different reasons. You would do well to consider why Paul is running as a Republican as a start. He's anti-abortion, supports money, and doesn't support federal protections for minority interests. So what are Paul supporters so afraid of? KUCINICH: THE WORKER'S PRESIDENT!!!
Democractic-Republican Party (formed by Jefferson - Madison 1792) to defeat the Bankers! Later Democrats split and was the Slave Owning Party. #1 Republicans freed Slaves - #2 Democrats took us into Vietname, Korea - #3 Republicans got us out of Vietnam and Korea - #4 Democrats killed 150,000 dropping H-Bomb - I'm not a Republican in George Bush terms (neo-con) I'm a republican in jeffersonian terms
Eso: Kucinich as "Worker's President" How can this be. The biggest negativity facing workers is not healthcare but taxation. Labor Class must work 4-months per year to pay Income Tax. If you make $36K per year that's $12K - great Healthcare Insurance
Eso: Ron Paul is for "minority" rights (as a minority) this is an important issue to me, but under our Constitution the only true minority is the "individual" - not groups (special interests). Democracy or Mobocracy is where groups work hard lobbying to over throw other groups (group think). If a Congressman makes promises to any group he is violating his oath of office!! Ron Paul 08
Octo-Your desires sound better than they work in practice. How do I know? Because we've already tried Ron Paul's plan 250 years ago, and look where there got us? Without even higher principles and humanitarian evolution, the Founders were already politicking way back then with the lives of MANY individuals - they were called WOMEN and SLAVES. The "Free Market" system without safeguards and priorities HAS LED TO THE CURRENT MONOPOLIZATION.
Eso: Monopolization can only happen in a Democracy, it cannot happen in a Constitutional Republic where congress does not vote extra powers to special interest groups (blacks, mexicans, immigrants, women, gays, corporations, wealthy whites, PETA, Welfare, Warfare) only in a Democracy to you have the above group-think where individuals gather to force other individuals to pay (taxation) for their desires.
Let's assume you are correct, that we don't live in a Constitutional Republic (I would argue about what exactly we DO live under), what does monopolization have to do with animal rights, gay rights, women's rights and education?! LONG before any of these issues, there was monopolization. MONEY CORRUPTS, not the desire to live in peace. Interesting you didn't include what you take for granted: men's rights - as a special interest.
Octo- I just read this part of your comments again, and had to shake my head. You say monopolization can't happen in a Constitutional Republic where congress doesn't vote extra powers to special interest groups. From the VERY beginning of this country, that's exactly what the founders did by sacrificing integrity to appease slave holders. Your ideas are idealistic for a pure free market system, but nothing in history proves your system is possible. Logic and history prove otherwise.
Octo: Ron Paul is clear in his disrespectful rhetoric about women's right (as a woman and a mother of daughters) this is an important issue for me, and under the Constitution as it was written, women didn't have the right to divorce her husband, much less use birth control or vote. It wasn't the Constitution that set slaves free.
While I believe it's important for a people to rise up to truly create long-lasting and significant change (as was the case when the Cuban people, led by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara overthrew US-backed dictator Batista) ONLY Dennis Kucinich has shown the type of overall evolutionary understanding that I - as a humanitarian, a woman, a parent, and an internationalist - prioritize most. I can support NO OTHER CANDIDATE THAN DENNIS KUCINICH THIS ELECTION. KUCINICH '08!
Eso: I'm asking you nicely, drop Cuba from your lips because you and the Michael Moore's of the world have no flippin' clue. Che Guevara was not Cuban and he was unbelievably cruel -- Let me get some Che quotes for you see if they fit in your PETA-Vegan defintion of "peace."
I will NEVER drop Cuba from my lips. While I can be critical about aspects of Cuba's policies (i.e. succumbing to the tourism trade to get around the US/Corporatist vengeful blockage, and the backward policies regarding homosexuality - still a struggle in THIS country as well) I see Cuba's revolution as a GREAT BEACON and will continually be a lesson I impart to others interested in fighting for freedom from imperialist powers.
PART I: Whenever ANYone tries to disparage the Cuban Revolution by repeating US corporate rhetoric about Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, there is an ulterior right-wing motive. I would advise looking deeper. Why does the US hate Cuba? Is it because Bush feels for human rights? Nooooo... Consider who was in charge prior to 1957...
PART II - Here is a little bit of history of the dictator in Cuba prior to 1957: In 1934 Fulgencio Batista took over the Cuban government in what became known as "The Revolt of the Sergeants." For the next twenty-five years he ruled Cuba with an iron fist, and the full blessing and endorsement of the United States government, who feared a social and economic revolution and saw him as a stabilizing force with respect for American interests.
PART III: Batista established lasting relationships with organized crime, and under his guardianship Havana became known as "the Latin Las Vegas." Meyer Lansky and other prominent gangsters were heavily invested in Havana, and politicians from Batista on down took their cut.
PART IV: Check out Wikipedia for a quick overview of Batista's dictatorship and US corporate interest - not in human rights, but raping the economy: Batista violently suppressed a number of attempts to defeat his control. Many of those who surrendered were executed...
PART V: Octo, in order to feign concern for human rights, you like to insinuate that atrocities occurred under Che and Fidel, but you conveniently leave out of your discussion the reason for the Cuban Revolution in the first place. There's a reason for this. It's no accident.
PART VI - More from Wikipedia: While living luxuriously in Daytona Beach, Florida, Batista ran for and won a seat in the Cuban Senate in 1948. Four years later, he ran for president, but a poll published in the December 1951 issue of the popular magazine "Bohemia" showed him in last place. Not expected to win[citation needed], Batista staged a coup.
PART VII - On March 10, 1952, almost twenty years after the Revolt of the Sergeants, Batista took over the government once more, this time against elected Cuban president Carlos Prío Socorras. The coup took place three months before the upcoming elections that he was sure to lose. Also running in that election (for a different office) was a young, energetic lawyer named Fidel Castro. On March 27 Batista's government was formally recognized by U.S. President Harry Truman.
PART VIII - Shortly after this recognition, Batista declared that, although he was completely loyal to Cuba's constitution of 1940, constitutional guarantees would have to be temporarily suspended, as well as the right to strike. In April, writes Hugh Thomas in The Cuban Revolution, "Batista proclaimed a new constitutional code of 275 articles, claiming that the 'democratic and progressive essence' of the 1940 Constitution was preserved in the new law." (YEAH RIGHT... LOL)
PART IX: Just over a year after Batista's second coup, a small group of revolutionaries led by Fidel Castro attacked the Moncada Army Barracks in Santiago on July 26, 1953. Having easily defeated the rebellion, and with Castro and most of the others in jail or dead, business was back to normal in Cuba.
Due to popular unrest, and to appease the United States government, Batista held an election in which he was the only legal candidate. He won, becoming president of Cuba in 1954.
PART X: Batista was so confident of his power that on May 15, 1955, he released Castro and the remaining survivors of the Moncada attack, hoping to dissuade some of his critics. ... it was rumored that Batista's military police was looking to kill Castro, so the rebel went to Mexico to plan the revolution. By late 1955 student riots and anti-Batista demonstrations had become frequent.Students attempting to march from the University of Havana were stopped and beaten by the police...
PART XI - Batista suspended constitutional guarantees and established tighter censorship of the media. His military police would pick up anyone suspected of insurrection. ...they had grown more prone to violent acts of brutality and torture, with no fear of legal repercussions.
In March of 1956 Batista refused to consider a proposal calling for elections by the end of the year. He was confident that he could defeat any revolutionary attempt from the many factions who opposed him.
PART X - Due to its continued opposition to the dictator, the University of Havana was temporarily closed on November 30, 1956. (It would not reopen until early 1959, after a revolutionary victory.)
On January 1, 1959, after formally resigning his position in Cuba's government and going through what historian Hugh Thomas describes as "a charade of handing over power" to his representatives, remaining family and closest associates boarded a plane and flew to the Dominican Republic.
Throughout the night various flights out of Camp Colombia took Batista's friends and high officials to Miami, New York, New Orleans and Jacksonville.
PART XII - There was no provision made for the thousands of other Cubans who had worked with Batista's regime. (i.e. the initial "boat people").
SO, the Cuban Revolution didn't happen in a vacuum. If there wasn't GREAT sentiment in favor of the revolution, that little island country could never have withstood the attacks of the US - just 80 miles away. It's a great testament to the Cuban people's resolve, commitment and integrity.
Octo, where did I say Che was Cuban? I said he helped lead the Cuban Revolution against US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista - a corporate puppet who did well by Cuban upper classes and bureaucrats, while the majority of Cubans suffered. In every revolution there are a minority of privileged who are pissed at the overthrow. But more people were ultimately served through literacy and basic human rights (food, shelter, education and health care) than when US corporations raped that economy.
Has anyone counted how many people were executed during the American Revolution - i.e. those fighting for the agenda of King George of England? Just curious...
Che was responsible for 180 executions (not during combat) but non-combatants or prisoners (Cuban people) here's a che quote: "To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara"
Your very selective and out-of-context point about Che proves to me that you are a subscriber to right wing rhetoric yet again. Interesting to me how you put down a revolutionary but leave the subject of BATISTA and the US CORPORATE INTEREST THAT RAPED CUBA unscathed. Anyone who hasn't seen the film "Motorcycle Diaries," I highly recommend that and to read Che's OWN words. You can read his speeches - as well as Malcolm X's - by ordering books from PATHFINDER PRESS.
180 EXECUTIONS? Ooooh... And no judicial proof??? Gee, that sounds a little like the situation of the prisoners currently held in Guantanamo Bay by none other than THIS government that supported the DICTATOR Che Guevara and Fidel Castro had to fight in Cuba. In war, there is death. Speaking of defending lives against dictators and governments like the corporate power machine that despises Cuba for its successful revolution, why again do RR supporters believe it's important to keep their guns?
Correction: RP supporters (Ron Paul supporters). They believe it's important to keep their guns in case of government tyranny. Well, Che and Fidel and the people of Cuba faced tyranny from Batista's government as well as continued attacks from the United States - a super power that encouraged and fomented insurgencies inside Cuba after the Revolution (and continues to do so).
Ron Paul supporters love to espouse the right to keep and bear arms as one of the most important aspects to them. What are they thinking that's for? A revolution? And what are they planning to use these guns for, if the time came to use them? Don't make out as though Che Guevara wasn't anything but a brave revolutionary - akin to our very own George Washington.
Eso: Nice qualifier "woman and mother of daughters" -- State where Ron Paul has fought against rights of Women. Are you talking about voting down Tax Based Bills (Fed Funded) that would benefit Women! It is Constitutionally Illegal to give advantage to anyone. Paul is anti-subsidy, anti-group, anti-IRS, anti-fed reserve, anti-war, anti-fed funded un-constitutional bills!! Every Congressman swears an oath to vote like Ron Paul, Liberty means NOT BY FORCE!!!
Octo - My being a woman and a mother isn't a "qualifier" - it's a reality, and the reason I am quite aware AND WARY - of anyone who spouts anti-woman rherotic like Paul. If my being a woman and a mother is a "qualifier" what do you call your claims to Cuban and Native American heritage? What's good for the gander ... Oh, unless you happen to be Ron Paul, then the goose can go to hell.
Octo - you and other Ron Paul supporters say it is illegal to give advantage to anyone. Again, I ask: How far back to you want to go to determine who should have what? When Europeans took the land at the barrel of a gun from the indiginous peoples, they wrote laws that benefited themselves. EVOLVE from the "me me me" to the "we we we" and maybe we can have a fruitful discussion.
Where did you get that figure? Yes we pay high taxes - mostly for illegal wars/the military industrial complex, but I'm pretty sure workers don't pay 33% for 35K per year income. Tens of millions make FAR LESS. 1/4 of American children live below poverty line. I worry more about them and what that will do to us as a people, than whether or not you want to wield your gun about and return to 1776.
What a load of malarkey. I beg you supporters to look closer at your preacher man. He has merely taken the umph and pizazz that wows the churchgoer and laid it on a couple of empty promises. With a side of, "So sorry about the pillaging!"
I've been looking all over for this. The press won't even cover this forum because none of the "top-tier" candidate showed up. 3 out of 8 candidates--almost have the field--show up, and not one press outlet even mentions it? Does anyone need any more proof that the corporations are fixing the elections? They show no regard for the importance and value of Native Americans when they neglect the Native Americans' role in America. Simply disgusting.
I so agree. There was no main media coverage that I could find.
What disrespect for Dennis, who is a valid candidate, and a long term congressman with a great record.
... also the disrespect to the American Native community is outrageous!
This nation will never heal, unless we, as Dennis says, heal the gulf of sorrows, created by our federal government's policies during the 'Indian' Wars?
Where is our national memorial to the American Holocaust victims???
#1 Research the CFR the NWO and the NAU -- Only Kucinich, Gravel, and Paul are non-CFR candidates. However, Kucinich has voted in the same direction as the CFR 289 times. For there to be Corporationism there must and always is Big Gov't. Why?
Go troll somewhere else Octobox. I've seen you in virtually every Kucinich video spouting off about Ron Paul. We get it. Now let us talk about who the video is about and I promise I won't talk about Kucinich during Ron Paul videos. Thanks for understanding.
I came off as angrier than I intended. I apologize Octobox, but still please stop posting things about Ron Paul in every Kucinich video and I promise I will not post about Kucinich in Ron Paul videos. thanks.
Haze: You have a right to be angry, claim it. Dennis Kucinich is in favor of the Fairness Doctrine which bans free-speech, it is constitutionally illegal -- so I can understand why you would not want me to post here. Ron Paul 08
Actually I don't think I should be angry as this is just a comment space on a youtube video. Obviously I can't stop you from posting, I just don't like to wade through all the junk to get to the posts that I care about. I don't agree with Ron Paul's positions and I'm sure most people here do not either as this video is linked from the Kucinich presidential website.
Haze: Yogananda says anger can be an ally if you direct or re-direct it, because it is only energy and thoughts. Since I've been practicing this I no longer look at anger or emotions in the same way - I let them come when they are natural and spontaneous. Emotions cannot be talked or rationalized away - it's energy ride it or fight it. Smile. We can agree to disagree and post where we want *wink*
Haze, Ron Paul supporters (like Octobox) organize to take over Dennis Kucinich video sites, trying to pull support from him and gain support for Paul. But make no mistake, Paul's stance against the war is different than Kucinich's. Consider why Paul is running as a Republican. He's anti-abortion, and doesn't support federal protections for minority interests. But do you ever hear him disparage the stock market? So what are Paul supporters so afraid of? KUCINICH: THE WORKER'S PRESIDENT!!!
My Cuban ancestry is Taino Indian (Arrowak). Dennis Kucinich voted AGAINST the Easter Band of Cherokee Indian Land Exchange Act of 2002 (HR 1409). I have two Tsalagi (Cherokee) contacts one from the Smokey Moutain Band and the other Easter Band and both agreed that Ron Paul was on the right side of this vote!!!
Some RP supporters will say anything to make Dems think he stands for the same things we do. I even had one RP guy try to tell me RP in Dennis' best friend so I should vote for him. Karl Rove would be proud of some of their tactics.
Yep, the tactic: "Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul are good friends" was one of the campaign waves on the message boards. sigh... It doesn't take much research before you realize how very different they are. That's why the RP people are now disparaging Rep. Kucinich any way possible. KUCINICH in '08!
Eso: Great Healthcare Insurance would be around $500 per month - only $6K per year. Ron Paul wants to get rid of the IRS (constitutionally illegal anyway) - more than enough to pay for Great Health Care at not cost to anyone else.
The Fairness Doctrine was put in place to address a growing problem of corporate monopolization of our media. Does everyone here know WHO managed to kill it? RONALD REAGAN AND GEORGE BUSH THE FIRST! There are laws against libel and slander, and for good reason. But when the right wing forces take over, they want to be unrestrained in all that they say and do.
The Center for American Progress issued a report titled "The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio." According to the report "out of 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners reveals that 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming is conservative, and 9 percent is progressive." Read MEDIA MONOPOLY and you get chills. Right wingers shut down free speech while suggesting they defend it.
#2 Because, in a truly free-market the only wealth input a corporation would have is from its investors and predominately from its consumers (daily dollar vote). In our system corporations can bypass the will-of-the-people through Gov't subsidization, which Kucinich has voted many times in favor of (Agri-Farmers and Prison Conglomerates). Ron Paul is 100% opposed to Subsidization, the IRS, and the CFR controlled Fed Reserve!!!!
#2 Because, in a truly free-market the only wealth input a corporation would have is from its investors and predominately from its consumers (daily dollar vote). In our system corporations can bypass the will-of-the-people through Gov't subsidization, which Kucinich has voted many times in favor of (Agri-Farmers and Prison Conglomerates). Ron Paul is 100% opposed to Subsidization, the IRS, and the CFR controlled Fed Reserve!!!!
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#3 Free-Market Garage Sale - What if the government said people selling items at a garage sale, must have a $100 permit (Regulation) - would this increase or decrease the costs, thus shadow-markets. This is modern day healthcare with HMO's, Regulation, Subsidization, and Political Lobbying, there's the hidden cost. Add to it the rape in value of our dollar by the illegal printing of US dollars by the Fed Reserve and no wonder why people cannot afford health care. Ron Paul 2008
Ron Paul doesn't deserve to be mentioned with Kucinich. Kucinich supports gay rights, women right's, immigration rights, and has a plan to fight global climate change. Ron Paul is silent or on the opposite side regarding all of these issues.
Kucinich - 90% of his career he was Pro-Life - he voted for pro-life funding. He also, voted to lower the age of teenage drug offenders to be tried as adults. He also voted for every Police Action Nation Building Schema Clinton put forward (more troops died under clinton then all of Iraq War). Actually Paul will not vote for any Fed Funding Pro-Life or Pro-Choice because this is not Constitutional responsibility of the Fed!!!
You do realize that Kucinich and Ron Paul are quite different politically right? Although the one thing they have in common is they want to fix government corruption (although quite differently).
End the cynicism and nihiistic, indeed, the "giving up" of voting for the lesser of two evils. Vote for real integrity and change; vote for life, instead of death; vote for community instead of empire! Vote kucinich 08!
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ChuckDuck051 4 years ago
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paul8kangas 4 years ago
I like the scrolling text to clarify muffled audience questions. Well done.
Is what the grass roots looks like in the 21st Century?
Keep up the great Dennis Kucinich videos, fellas!
Dutchoven08 4 years ago
dennis kucinich for president 2008 ...
aviomaster 4 years ago
How does it feel to waste your time and money on this campaign (and don't mark this as spam)?
amarillo14 4 years ago
I dont understand? You think supporting a candidate that speaks the truth on EVERYTHING is a waste? I think its the most patriotic thing I could possibly do. Thanks for your ignorant comment though.
Mrtodd724 4 years ago
I don't mean to be rude, but you are wasting your time and money. Reply soon. :)
amarillo14 4 years ago
We all need to work to repair the breach and together we can lift up this nation.
Dennis is ready to be the president of all the people.
Wolfiemouse 4 years ago
Dennis Kucinich,
You are brilliant. You saved Cleveland 30 years ago, and because of it you were voted as congressman, as you will also be voted president!
linguy22 4 years ago 4
My Cuban ancestry is Taino Indian (Arrowak). Dennis Kucinich voted AGAINST the Easter Band of Cherokee Indian Land Exchange Act of 2002 (HR 1409). I have two Tsalagi (Cherokee) contacts one from the Smokey Moutain Band and the other Easter Band and both agreed that Ron Paul was on the right side of this vote!!!
OctoPuno 4 years ago
With all your various ancestry, you are a good example of why INTERNATIONALISM, rather than NATIONALISM, is the vision forward. Native Americans were here before the Constitutionalists, so by all rights, if we "return" to anything, it should be to return to the ways of the native people - ways that didn't decimate populations of life on earth, turn forests into gated communities for white bigots and feed cows ground-up animal parts. ONLY KUCINICH GETS IT RIGHT FOR OUR FUTURE.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Ask RP supporters what would happen to this nations public school system under their vision. Or about crumbling infrastructure (bridges and highways). Or about current federal protections for historically oppressed, like blacks, women, Asians, Hispanics... Ron Paul has no answers for us. He's a anti-abortion, anti-humanitarian Republican who wants to protect the money of those who have it and believes Darwinism and guns will work things out. Maybe for HIM; but not for ME.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: I'm Afro-Cuban and Irish, so don't lecture me about minority "needs. You do understand that Kucinich was pro-life most of his career and he voted in favor of Pro-Life Fed Funded Bills. It doesn't matter if Ron Paul is Pro-Life because he never votes to regulate abortion pro or con. He has both a perfect Pro-Life and Pro-Choice voting record according to the Constitution. Dennis is a flip-flopper.
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Octo: If your argument is valid - that since your ancestral heritage has minority ties, than I'm a woman. Don't lecture me about what Ron Paul "offers" women. You mention that Kucinich was "pro-life" most of his career, well he sure "ain't" now, but Ron Paul is very clear about his bias against women controlling their own reproductive lives. His position has less to do with economics (which is rarely part of his rhetoric in this regard), and more to do with his PERSONAL aversion to abortion.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: I homeschooled my daughter -- She started college at 12 yrs old. She is transferring in '08 to go to Davis or Cal Berkeley. She is not gifted. Public Education (after 12 years) prepares children for minimum wage. Privatize it so people compete for the right to educate your child, instead of the tenure and budgetary tract method. Public Education = Minimum Wage, Private = Could mean Higher Wages
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Dennis Kucinich voted down the Eastern Cherokee Band and the land exchange they wanted/needed to build schools and bring wealth to the Rez!!! Ron Paul voted in favor of this. I have to contacts one an Eastern Band and the other Smokey Mountain Band and both were in favor of the Land Exchange Bill -- Ron Paul 2008
OctoPuno 4 years ago
As an anonymous poster, your comments can be as convenient as you need them to be to make a point unrelated to the reality for millions of others. Thank you for clarifying that Ron Paul is NOT IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR THE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WHO WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO REGULAR EDUCATION AT ALL WITHOUT IT.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
So, Octo, you believe NO eduction is better than a Public education? And a 12-year-old college student is not gifted, but simply prospers from your correct perspective? ugh...Please enlighten us all as to what your understanding is of the history of public education? Do you have any idea what the situation was BEFORE public education? Because that's the ONLY fact we need to know. Not your theories of what you would LIKE to be the facts...
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
I am not happy with the lack of funding for public education and the ridiculous barriers set up to keep good teachers from teaching creatively because of cynical legislation like "No Child Left Behind" - which is meant to make robots of our kids, but that's not the problem with the concept of public education. It's a problem of elected officials with the wrong priorities. KUCINICH has the RIGHT priorities.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
My children have experienced both private and public schools (began in Montessori and then transferred). I was fortunate to decide, because private Montessori was expensive, but had the Montessori curriculum been offered in public schools in Des Moines I would have opted for that. Diversity - not just racial/cultural, but also economic - is important to the education of my kids. I prefer public school and the people there, even though it suffers from economic hardships.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: That of course is your choice, regarding education. I will not argue parenting chioces, too personal.
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Eso: You are blind. Kucinich voted for every Nation Building Schema that Clinton proposed! Kucinich voted for Military Construction Bills that in part sent monies to Iraq to build bases there -- Ron Paul voted these down. I'm anti-Nation Builder and so is Ron Paul. Kucinich is in favor of the "Fairness Doctrine" - Hitler had a "Fairness Doctrine" it eliminates free-speech for regulated speech. Wake up!
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Octo, On the Fairness Doctrine: (Part 1) "A license permits broadcasting, but the licensee has no constitutional right to be the one who holds the license or to monopolize a... frequency to the exclusion of his fellow citizens.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Octo, On the Fairness Doctrine (PART II): There is nothing in the First Amendment which prevents the Government from requiring a licensee to share his frequency with others.... It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the right of the broadcasters, which is paramount." U.S. Supreme Court, upholding the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine 1969.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: You thouroughly do not understand the Constitution. I need to spend my time talking with people who want to "discuss" -- You are in favor of Kucinich and I am in favor for Ron Paul, we should agree to disagree.
OctoPuno 4 years ago
And I think agreeing to disagree is exactly what I - and others who have pointed out that Ron Paul supporters try to take over Kucinich message boards) have been complaining about. You either assume Kucinich supporters aren't educated and resolute in our support of Kucinich, or you want to distract us from fighting the real fight - against Clinton and Obama and Edwards and the mainstream media.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago 5
Octo - I will wish you well in the Republican election and will be one of those who criticizes any effort to shut down Ron Paul by the mainstream media. I DO believe that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich truly represent best our respective party affiliations and core beliefs about how government should be run. Good luck to you.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago 4
Octo, Kucinich is a THINKER, and rarely (never that I can see now) goes with any "black and white" stance when it comes to policy. He actually READS legislation and makes an educated decision that is based on his dedication to humanitarian and internationalist sanity. I consider such people as having EVOLVED beyond simplistic "all-or-nothing" ideologies. Why don't you explain what you believe HR 1409 would have done, and why you believe Kucinich voted against it.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Octo, Whenever anyone says they have "contacts" or "ancestry/family," they want us to assume they are experts, no matter what their perspective. ABOVE ALL, I consider perspective. If you are right wing and fighting for privitization, you most likely will clash with humanitarians, humanists, historians and internationalists. That's why YOU support Republican Ron Paul, and I support Democrat Dennis Kucinich.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: "Contacts" is not a good debate tool, however, you are speaking out of the side of your neck when it comes to Cuba -- You have nothing but left-wing reports. I will sight my sources so you and others can decide for yourselves. My "contacts" (relatives) offer humanistic perspective. Che was an animal and no Cuban misses him, only Communist Sheople do.
OctoPuno 4 years ago
You mean no Cuban who chose to leave Cuba misses Che. Che was a revolutionary of great integrity, and someone people the world over read, study and hold as proof that tyrannical governments and big governments cannot win in the end over the will of the people.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
You insinuate that because Dennis Kucinich voted against HR 1409 that he is therefore not supportive of Native Americans. I happen to know better. You could just as easily try to lead people astray by suggesting anyone who votes against Bush's "Clean Air Act" is against clean air. Don't be misled! Dennis Kucinich would serve the rights and interests of Native Americans very well.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: Number 1 -- Ron Paul stood against all Clinton's Nation Building Schemas and World Policing actions -- Ron Paul also stood against all of Pres. Bush's Nation Building Schemas and World Policing actions -- I don't see your point here!!
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Don't forget any one who registers as a Democrat can vote for Dennis Kucinich to win the Democratic primary.
Kucinich 2008
Ozz04 4 years ago 2
Ron Paul supporters campaign to take over Dennis Kucinich video sites, trying to pull support from him and gain support for Paul. But make no mistake, they are against the Iraq war for different reasons. You would do well to consider why Paul is running as a Republican as a start. He's anti-abortion, supports money, and doesn't support federal protections for minority interests. So what are Paul supporters so afraid of? KUCINICH: THE WORKER'S PRESIDENT!!!
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Democractic-Republican Party (formed by Jefferson - Madison 1792) to defeat the Bankers! Later Democrats split and was the Slave Owning Party. #1 Republicans freed Slaves - #2 Democrats took us into Vietname, Korea - #3 Republicans got us out of Vietnam and Korea - #4 Democrats killed 150,000 dropping H-Bomb - I'm not a Republican in George Bush terms (neo-con) I'm a republican in jeffersonian terms
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Eso: Kucinich as "Worker's President" How can this be. The biggest negativity facing workers is not healthcare but taxation. Labor Class must work 4-months per year to pay Income Tax. If you make $36K per year that's $12K - great Healthcare Insurance
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Eso: Ron Paul is for "minority" rights (as a minority) this is an important issue to me, but under our Constitution the only true minority is the "individual" - not groups (special interests). Democracy or Mobocracy is where groups work hard lobbying to over throw other groups (group think). If a Congressman makes promises to any group he is violating his oath of office!! Ron Paul 08
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Octo-Your desires sound better than they work in practice. How do I know? Because we've already tried Ron Paul's plan 250 years ago, and look where there got us? Without even higher principles and humanitarian evolution, the Founders were already politicking way back then with the lives of MANY individuals - they were called WOMEN and SLAVES. The "Free Market" system without safeguards and priorities HAS LED TO THE CURRENT MONOPOLIZATION.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: Monopolization can only happen in a Democracy, it cannot happen in a Constitutional Republic where congress does not vote extra powers to special interest groups (blacks, mexicans, immigrants, women, gays, corporations, wealthy whites, PETA, Welfare, Warfare) only in a Democracy to you have the above group-think where individuals gather to force other individuals to pay (taxation) for their desires.
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Let's assume you are correct, that we don't live in a Constitutional Republic (I would argue about what exactly we DO live under), what does monopolization have to do with animal rights, gay rights, women's rights and education?! LONG before any of these issues, there was monopolization. MONEY CORRUPTS, not the desire to live in peace. Interesting you didn't include what you take for granted: men's rights - as a special interest.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Octo- I just read this part of your comments again, and had to shake my head. You say monopolization can't happen in a Constitutional Republic where congress doesn't vote extra powers to special interest groups. From the VERY beginning of this country, that's exactly what the founders did by sacrificing integrity to appease slave holders. Your ideas are idealistic for a pure free market system, but nothing in history proves your system is possible. Logic and history prove otherwise.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Octo: Ron Paul is clear in his disrespectful rhetoric about women's right (as a woman and a mother of daughters) this is an important issue for me, and under the Constitution as it was written, women didn't have the right to divorce her husband, much less use birth control or vote. It wasn't the Constitution that set slaves free.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
While I believe it's important for a people to rise up to truly create long-lasting and significant change (as was the case when the Cuban people, led by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara overthrew US-backed dictator Batista) ONLY Dennis Kucinich has shown the type of overall evolutionary understanding that I - as a humanitarian, a woman, a parent, and an internationalist - prioritize most. I can support NO OTHER CANDIDATE THAN DENNIS KUCINICH THIS ELECTION. KUCINICH '08!
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: I'm asking you nicely, drop Cuba from your lips because you and the Michael Moore's of the world have no flippin' clue. Che Guevara was not Cuban and he was unbelievably cruel -- Let me get some Che quotes for you see if they fit in your PETA-Vegan defintion of "peace."
OctoPuno 4 years ago
I will NEVER drop Cuba from my lips. While I can be critical about aspects of Cuba's policies (i.e. succumbing to the tourism trade to get around the US/Corporatist vengeful blockage, and the backward policies regarding homosexuality - still a struggle in THIS country as well) I see Cuba's revolution as a GREAT BEACON and will continually be a lesson I impart to others interested in fighting for freedom from imperialist powers.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART I: Whenever ANYone tries to disparage the Cuban Revolution by repeating US corporate rhetoric about Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, there is an ulterior right-wing motive. I would advise looking deeper. Why does the US hate Cuba? Is it because Bush feels for human rights? Nooooo... Consider who was in charge prior to 1957...
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART II - Here is a little bit of history of the dictator in Cuba prior to 1957: In 1934 Fulgencio Batista took over the Cuban government in what became known as "The Revolt of the Sergeants." For the next twenty-five years he ruled Cuba with an iron fist, and the full blessing and endorsement of the United States government, who feared a social and economic revolution and saw him as a stabilizing force with respect for American interests.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART III: Batista established lasting relationships with organized crime, and under his guardianship Havana became known as "the Latin Las Vegas." Meyer Lansky and other prominent gangsters were heavily invested in Havana, and politicians from Batista on down took their cut.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART IV: Check out Wikipedia for a quick overview of Batista's dictatorship and US corporate interest - not in human rights, but raping the economy: Batista violently suppressed a number of attempts to defeat his control. Many of those who surrendered were executed...
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART V: Octo, in order to feign concern for human rights, you like to insinuate that atrocities occurred under Che and Fidel, but you conveniently leave out of your discussion the reason for the Cuban Revolution in the first place. There's a reason for this. It's no accident.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART VI - More from Wikipedia: While living luxuriously in Daytona Beach, Florida, Batista ran for and won a seat in the Cuban Senate in 1948. Four years later, he ran for president, but a poll published in the December 1951 issue of the popular magazine "Bohemia" showed him in last place. Not expected to win[citation needed], Batista staged a coup.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART VII - On March 10, 1952, almost twenty years after the Revolt of the Sergeants, Batista took over the government once more, this time against elected Cuban president Carlos Prío Socorras. The coup took place three months before the upcoming elections that he was sure to lose. Also running in that election (for a different office) was a young, energetic lawyer named Fidel Castro. On March 27 Batista's government was formally recognized by U.S. President Harry Truman.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART VIII - Shortly after this recognition, Batista declared that, although he was completely loyal to Cuba's constitution of 1940, constitutional guarantees would have to be temporarily suspended, as well as the right to strike. In April, writes Hugh Thomas in The Cuban Revolution, "Batista proclaimed a new constitutional code of 275 articles, claiming that the 'democratic and progressive essence' of the 1940 Constitution was preserved in the new law." (YEAH RIGHT... LOL)
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART IX: Just over a year after Batista's second coup, a small group of revolutionaries led by Fidel Castro attacked the Moncada Army Barracks in Santiago on July 26, 1953. Having easily defeated the rebellion, and with Castro and most of the others in jail or dead, business was back to normal in Cuba.
Due to popular unrest, and to appease the United States government, Batista held an election in which he was the only legal candidate. He won, becoming president of Cuba in 1954.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART X: Batista was so confident of his power that on May 15, 1955, he released Castro and the remaining survivors of the Moncada attack, hoping to dissuade some of his critics. ... it was rumored that Batista's military police was looking to kill Castro, so the rebel went to Mexico to plan the revolution. By late 1955 student riots and anti-Batista demonstrations had become frequent.Students attempting to march from the University of Havana were stopped and beaten by the police...
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART XI - Batista suspended constitutional guarantees and established tighter censorship of the media. His military police would pick up anyone suspected of insurrection. ...they had grown more prone to violent acts of brutality and torture, with no fear of legal repercussions.
In March of 1956 Batista refused to consider a proposal calling for elections by the end of the year. He was confident that he could defeat any revolutionary attempt from the many factions who opposed him.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART X - Due to its continued opposition to the dictator, the University of Havana was temporarily closed on November 30, 1956. (It would not reopen until early 1959, after a revolutionary victory.)
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
On January 1, 1959, after formally resigning his position in Cuba's government and going through what historian Hugh Thomas describes as "a charade of handing over power" to his representatives, remaining family and closest associates boarded a plane and flew to the Dominican Republic.
Throughout the night various flights out of Camp Colombia took Batista's friends and high officials to Miami, New York, New Orleans and Jacksonville.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
PART XII - There was no provision made for the thousands of other Cubans who had worked with Batista's regime. (i.e. the initial "boat people").
SO, the Cuban Revolution didn't happen in a vacuum. If there wasn't GREAT sentiment in favor of the revolution, that little island country could never have withstood the attacks of the US - just 80 miles away. It's a great testament to the Cuban people's resolve, commitment and integrity.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
VIVA CUBA!
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Octo, where did I say Che was Cuban? I said he helped lead the Cuban Revolution against US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista - a corporate puppet who did well by Cuban upper classes and bureaucrats, while the majority of Cubans suffered. In every revolution there are a minority of privileged who are pissed at the overthrow. But more people were ultimately served through literacy and basic human rights (food, shelter, education and health care) than when US corporations raped that economy.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Has anyone counted how many people were executed during the American Revolution - i.e. those fighting for the agenda of King George of England? Just curious...
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Che was responsible for 180 executions (not during combat) but non-combatants or prisoners (Cuban people) here's a che quote: "To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary...These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the The Wall! (El Paredón)" --Ernesto 'Che' Guevara"
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Your very selective and out-of-context point about Che proves to me that you are a subscriber to right wing rhetoric yet again. Interesting to me how you put down a revolutionary but leave the subject of BATISTA and the US CORPORATE INTEREST THAT RAPED CUBA unscathed. Anyone who hasn't seen the film "Motorcycle Diaries," I highly recommend that and to read Che's OWN words. You can read his speeches - as well as Malcolm X's - by ordering books from PATHFINDER PRESS.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
180 EXECUTIONS? Ooooh... And no judicial proof??? Gee, that sounds a little like the situation of the prisoners currently held in Guantanamo Bay by none other than THIS government that supported the DICTATOR Che Guevara and Fidel Castro had to fight in Cuba. In war, there is death. Speaking of defending lives against dictators and governments like the corporate power machine that despises Cuba for its successful revolution, why again do RR supporters believe it's important to keep their guns?
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Correction: RP supporters (Ron Paul supporters). They believe it's important to keep their guns in case of government tyranny. Well, Che and Fidel and the people of Cuba faced tyranny from Batista's government as well as continued attacks from the United States - a super power that encouraged and fomented insurgencies inside Cuba after the Revolution (and continues to do so).
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Ron Paul supporters love to espouse the right to keep and bear arms as one of the most important aspects to them. What are they thinking that's for? A revolution? And what are they planning to use these guns for, if the time came to use them? Don't make out as though Che Guevara wasn't anything but a brave revolutionary - akin to our very own George Washington.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: Nice qualifier "woman and mother of daughters" -- State where Ron Paul has fought against rights of Women. Are you talking about voting down Tax Based Bills (Fed Funded) that would benefit Women! It is Constitutionally Illegal to give advantage to anyone. Paul is anti-subsidy, anti-group, anti-IRS, anti-fed reserve, anti-war, anti-fed funded un-constitutional bills!! Every Congressman swears an oath to vote like Ron Paul, Liberty means NOT BY FORCE!!!
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Octo - My being a woman and a mother isn't a "qualifier" - it's a reality, and the reason I am quite aware AND WARY - of anyone who spouts anti-woman rherotic like Paul. If my being a woman and a mother is a "qualifier" what do you call your claims to Cuban and Native American heritage? What's good for the gander ... Oh, unless you happen to be Ron Paul, then the goose can go to hell.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Octo - you and other Ron Paul supporters say it is illegal to give advantage to anyone. Again, I ask: How far back to you want to go to determine who should have what? When Europeans took the land at the barrel of a gun from the indiginous peoples, they wrote laws that benefited themselves. EVOLVE from the "me me me" to the "we we we" and maybe we can have a fruitful discussion.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Where did you get that figure? Yes we pay high taxes - mostly for illegal wars/the military industrial complex, but I'm pretty sure workers don't pay 33% for 35K per year income. Tens of millions make FAR LESS. 1/4 of American children live below poverty line. I worry more about them and what that will do to us as a people, than whether or not you want to wield your gun about and return to 1776.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
What a load of malarkey. I beg you supporters to look closer at your preacher man. He has merely taken the umph and pizazz that wows the churchgoer and laid it on a couple of empty promises. With a side of, "So sorry about the pillaging!"
ryetee14 4 years ago
interesting.. wonder if he'd be willing to save the lost in the desert, or if he'd be just another......
Remember, I was born because of this history, when the trigger was pulled.
Judgement shall come.
desertfae 4 years ago
Dennis is the perfect candidate!
blakkat31 4 years ago
I've been looking all over for this. The press won't even cover this forum because none of the "top-tier" candidate showed up. 3 out of 8 candidates--almost have the field--show up, and not one press outlet even mentions it? Does anyone need any more proof that the corporations are fixing the elections? They show no regard for the importance and value of Native Americans when they neglect the Native Americans' role in America. Simply disgusting.
cjfriz 4 years ago 6
I so agree. There was no main media coverage that I could find.
What disrespect for Dennis, who is a valid candidate, and a long term congressman with a great record.
... also the disrespect to the American Native community is outrageous!
This nation will never heal, unless we, as Dennis says, heal the gulf of sorrows, created by our federal government's policies during the 'Indian' Wars?
Where is our national memorial to the American Holocaust victims???
Wolfiemouse 4 years ago 2
Dennis is DA MAN!
Tarotlaydee 4 years ago
#1 Research the CFR the NWO and the NAU -- Only Kucinich, Gravel, and Paul are non-CFR candidates. However, Kucinich has voted in the same direction as the CFR 289 times. For there to be Corporationism there must and always is Big Gov't. Why?
OctoBox 4 years ago
Go troll somewhere else Octobox. I've seen you in virtually every Kucinich video spouting off about Ron Paul. We get it. Now let us talk about who the video is about and I promise I won't talk about Kucinich during Ron Paul videos. Thanks for understanding.
haze4peace 4 years ago 4
I came off as angrier than I intended. I apologize Octobox, but still please stop posting things about Ron Paul in every Kucinich video and I promise I will not post about Kucinich in Ron Paul videos. thanks.
haze4peace 4 years ago 5
Haze: You have a right to be angry, claim it. Dennis Kucinich is in favor of the Fairness Doctrine which bans free-speech, it is constitutionally illegal -- so I can understand why you would not want me to post here. Ron Paul 08
OctoBox 4 years ago
Actually I don't think I should be angry as this is just a comment space on a youtube video. Obviously I can't stop you from posting, I just don't like to wade through all the junk to get to the posts that I care about. I don't agree with Ron Paul's positions and I'm sure most people here do not either as this video is linked from the Kucinich presidential website.
haze4peace 4 years ago 3
Haze: Yogananda says anger can be an ally if you direct or re-direct it, because it is only energy and thoughts. Since I've been practicing this I no longer look at anger or emotions in the same way - I let them come when they are natural and spontaneous. Emotions cannot be talked or rationalized away - it's energy ride it or fight it. Smile. We can agree to disagree and post where we want *wink*
OctoBox 4 years ago
Haze, Ron Paul supporters (like Octobox) organize to take over Dennis Kucinich video sites, trying to pull support from him and gain support for Paul. But make no mistake, Paul's stance against the war is different than Kucinich's. Consider why Paul is running as a Republican. He's anti-abortion, and doesn't support federal protections for minority interests. But do you ever hear him disparage the stock market? So what are Paul supporters so afraid of? KUCINICH: THE WORKER'S PRESIDENT!!!
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago 2
My Cuban ancestry is Taino Indian (Arrowak). Dennis Kucinich voted AGAINST the Easter Band of Cherokee Indian Land Exchange Act of 2002 (HR 1409). I have two Tsalagi (Cherokee) contacts one from the Smokey Moutain Band and the other Easter Band and both agreed that Ron Paul was on the right side of this vote!!!
OctoPuno 4 years ago
Some RP supporters will say anything to make Dems think he stands for the same things we do. I even had one RP guy try to tell me RP in Dennis' best friend so I should vote for him. Karl Rove would be proud of some of their tactics.
JWH8sGW 4 years ago
Yep, the tactic: "Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul are good friends" was one of the campaign waves on the message boards. sigh... It doesn't take much research before you realize how very different they are. That's why the RP people are now disparaging Rep. Kucinich any way possible. KUCINICH in '08!
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
Eso: Great Healthcare Insurance would be around $500 per month - only $6K per year. Ron Paul wants to get rid of the IRS (constitutionally illegal anyway) - more than enough to pay for Great Health Care at not cost to anyone else.
OctoPuno 4 years ago
The Fairness Doctrine was put in place to address a growing problem of corporate monopolization of our media. Does everyone here know WHO managed to kill it? RONALD REAGAN AND GEORGE BUSH THE FIRST! There are laws against libel and slander, and for good reason. But when the right wing forces take over, they want to be unrestrained in all that they say and do.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
The Center for American Progress issued a report titled "The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio." According to the report "out of 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners reveals that 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming is conservative, and 9 percent is progressive." Read MEDIA MONOPOLY and you get chills. Right wingers shut down free speech while suggesting they defend it.
EsoterikGirl 4 years ago
#2 Because, in a truly free-market the only wealth input a corporation would have is from its investors and predominately from its consumers (daily dollar vote). In our system corporations can bypass the will-of-the-people through Gov't subsidization, which Kucinich has voted many times in favor of (Agri-Farmers and Prison Conglomerates). Ron Paul is 100% opposed to Subsidization, the IRS, and the CFR controlled Fed Reserve!!!!
OctoBox 4 years ago
#2 Because, in a truly free-market the only wealth input a corporation would have is from its investors and predominately from its consumers (daily dollar vote). In our system corporations can bypass the will-of-the-people through Gov't subsidization, which Kucinich has voted many times in favor of (Agri-Farmers and Prison Conglomerates). Ron Paul is 100% opposed to Subsidization, the IRS, and the CFR controlled Fed Reserve!!!!
OctoBox 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
#3 Free-Market Garage Sale - What if the government said people selling items at a garage sale, must have a $100 permit (Regulation) - would this increase or decrease the costs, thus shadow-markets. This is modern day healthcare with HMO's, Regulation, Subsidization, and Political Lobbying, there's the hidden cost. Add to it the rape in value of our dollar by the illegal printing of US dollars by the Fed Reserve and no wonder why people cannot afford health care. Ron Paul 2008
OctoBox 4 years ago
Dennis Kucinich will be a great President!
skiman1115 4 years ago 5
I meant "shivers a JOY"... sorry about that, guess I got a little too excited!
maranelloboy 4 years ago 3
Hallelujah, a possible President that sends shivers of you down your spine when you listen to him
deep deep respect,
An astonished Italian
maranelloboy 4 years ago 2
GOOOO Dennis!! You have all my support!! I wish I knew you were here! I would have been there to show my support!
<b>Kucinich '08!!</b>
GreatGig1 4 years ago 4
We don't *just* need to restore sovereignty to the native communities; it should be restored to the states and to the individuals!
Kucinich/Paul vs Paul/Kucinich in '08!
momerath42 4 years ago 3
Ron Paul doesn't deserve to be mentioned with Kucinich. Kucinich supports gay rights, women right's, immigration rights, and has a plan to fight global climate change. Ron Paul is silent or on the opposite side regarding all of these issues.
woostopalypse 4 years ago 11
Kucinich - 90% of his career he was Pro-Life - he voted for pro-life funding. He also, voted to lower the age of teenage drug offenders to be tried as adults. He also voted for every Police Action Nation Building Schema Clinton put forward (more troops died under clinton then all of Iraq War). Actually Paul will not vote for any Fed Funding Pro-Life or Pro-Choice because this is not Constitutional responsibility of the Fed!!!
OctoBox 4 years ago
You do realize that Kucinich and Ron Paul are quite different politically right? Although the one thing they have in common is they want to fix government corruption (although quite differently).
Kucinich 08
haze4peace 4 years ago 3
End the cynicism and nihiistic, indeed, the "giving up" of voting for the lesser of two evils. Vote for real integrity and change; vote for life, instead of death; vote for community instead of empire! Vote kucinich 08!
peacelf 4 years ago 2
He's the only visionary in the race.
vigorbrasil 4 years ago 2
Wow! He's great! It's been so long sice i've heard a politician speak like that. Kucinich 2008!
tuckefresh 4 years ago 3