Is there a video of this entire performance online somewhere? This clip cuts out just when Gary Bartz is starting to really get down. Would love to hear the rest of this cut. and Jarrett is just freakin' amazing here!!!!
This is Miles' at his electric best. The Fall '71 tour features some of his best output. This lineup is totally overlooked by the critics. Do yourself a favour & check out the Berlin & Dietekon dates from the tour.
in my opinion, the best group of this period is the one assembled for "live evil" with john mclaughlin, jack dejohnette, keith jarrett, airto, gary bartz and michael henderson.
Just for the record, the only reason McLaughlin is on Live/Evil is because he showed up on the last night of a five night engagement which Miles had arranged to have recorded properly. McLaughlin was never a regular member of that or any other band Miles took on the road. Miles made McLaughlin an offer after the In A Silent Way sessions, then again after Bitches Brew, but each time, McLaughlin had already made other commitments.
@halfmonk Yes, you name some very talented musicians. I, however, kind of agree with Keith Jarrett when he says that this music was actually causing Miles to be chronically ill. There was music, like narrative ballads, harmonies that he refused to play as his then rock-band rhythm sections just had no technical talents. Jarrett tried his best to help Miles but this genre caused Miles to lose both his sound and ear. I also, refused to listen to most jazz in this era. Made no sense.
jarret is a revisionist. i'm not surprised. jarrett is a massive egomaniac & out of touch with reality. those who choose to denigrate this music, are judging it from the same tired paradigm of anglo-european harmony (i.e. wynton marsarlis, etc., couldn't play this and don't understand it). this music reinvigorated the african rhythmic aspect of improvised music & introduced electronic music to jazz. by his own admission, miles he was addicted to coke during this time which is why he burned out.
@halfmonk. when i say THIS music, i mean the electric period miles. almost all musicians now recognize that period as one of miles' most innovative. only the curators of the museum of dead jazz like marsalis, crouch, etc.), take issue with that fact. it is because marsalis and his ilk don't get it and they have a vested interest in promoting their version of jazz history. their version which leaves them in charge as proprietors of jazz. as jack dejohnette said, "jazz is about innovation."
@halfmonk. marsalis would have every innovation in jazz excluded from his revisionist history of jazz including the free period of coltrane, albert ayler, the art ensemble of chicago and the entire AACM, cecil taylor, don cherry, eric dolphy, etc. shall i go on? the list is too long to post. marsalis is, like jarret, full of shit. there is no single history of jazz. if you don't like that music then say so. it's subjective and nothing more. don't create some mythology to rationalize it.
@halfmonk Seens its only you and I that actually knew Miles' habit(s). Jarret was and still is a revisionist due to his actual knowledge related to constructing harmonic sounds into rhythms. His ear is extremely sensitive and he is one who knows if someone actually knows and understands. One subject you mention is basaically up for debate. African Rhythic aspect of improvised music was actually the problem: to those who know, there is no such thing as improvision. Only for those untrained.
@publius352 i have no idea what you're talking about but you're bordering on delusional. jarrett had no idea what miles was doing. that's clear from every interview that he gave about the miles electric period. those who are enslaved by euro-centric harmonic concepts can't hear what miles was doing because it has nothing to do with that. there is no such thing as improvisation? are you a musician? just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
This is great music but in my opinion it went on getting better and better up to '75. Al Foster - Pete Cosey - Reggie Lucas - Michael Henderson. I wish i'd seen that band - some of the best music ever done.
Keith Jarrett played the Fender Rhodes quite a lot, particularly with the Charles Lloyd quartet before this. Now he plays a specially prepared piano that has hard action much like a Rhodes. No one ever had more "issues" in terms of jazz performance than Miles!
I love Miles fusion work. Live-evil, water babies, on the corner. I wanna get into more of it after playing standards and bebop for so many years. I need a change in texture. This is great shit.
Dark Magus is indeed a great suggestion, check out the "Cellar Door sessions". 6 cd's, it may be expensive, but i can't stop listening to it and i've had it about 2 years. Jarrett rules on Rhodes and some electric organ at the same time...
Yeah Keith has his issues and I'm not a big fan of him, due to his atitude, but he's skill full and I only like his playing with miles, I tho think its absured that he devoids the Fender rhodes. I love the rhodes and its a charm to play. he's just I guess what you calll "Special" but his brother chris Jarrett is realy good. yeah Chick herbie and zawinul is the King of Fender rhodes. RIP Harold Rhodes "The Creator of Fine Instrument".
interesting to see Keith Jarrett doing the fender rhodes part that was usually played by Chick Corea. Corea was the GOD of fender rhodes. His melodic lines and accompaniment were absolutely supreme - he was essential to the Bitches Brew Era. Keith Jarrett is a marvelous musician, but you can tell he is not completely comfortable playing the electric piano.
ive been listening to very type of genre of musis for the past 30 years,and i will definately admit miles davis has got to be my all time favourite! what a musician
Oh my GOD!! Extremely rare footage of Miles's transition from the "Bitches Brew/Fillmore East" lineup to the funkified Electric Band. Didn't even know this lineup played together!!
Is there a video of this entire performance online somewhere? This clip cuts out just when Gary Bartz is starting to really get down. Would love to hear the rest of this cut. and Jarrett is just freakin' amazing here!!!!
TheBaronVitelius 9 months ago
This is Miles' at his electric best. The Fall '71 tour features some of his best output. This lineup is totally overlooked by the critics. Do yourself a favour & check out the Berlin & Dietekon dates from the tour.
scandalinbohemia 1 year ago
does anyone know what month?
01loosenut 1 year ago
@01loosenut 23rd or 27th of october 1971
masqualero09 1 year ago
in my opinion, the best group of this period is the one assembled for "live evil" with john mclaughlin, jack dejohnette, keith jarrett, airto, gary bartz and michael henderson.
halfmonk 2 years ago 6
Just for the record, the only reason McLaughlin is on Live/Evil is because he showed up on the last night of a five night engagement which Miles had arranged to have recorded properly. McLaughlin was never a regular member of that or any other band Miles took on the road. Miles made McLaughlin an offer after the In A Silent Way sessions, then again after Bitches Brew, but each time, McLaughlin had already made other commitments.
Kohntarkosz 1 year ago
@halfmonk
I agree..
fldsthedrummer 1 year ago
@halfmonk Yes, you name some very talented musicians. I, however, kind of agree with Keith Jarrett when he says that this music was actually causing Miles to be chronically ill. There was music, like narrative ballads, harmonies that he refused to play as his then rock-band rhythm sections just had no technical talents. Jarrett tried his best to help Miles but this genre caused Miles to lose both his sound and ear. I also, refused to listen to most jazz in this era. Made no sense.
publius352 1 year ago
jarret is a revisionist. i'm not surprised. jarrett is a massive egomaniac & out of touch with reality. those who choose to denigrate this music, are judging it from the same tired paradigm of anglo-european harmony (i.e. wynton marsarlis, etc., couldn't play this and don't understand it). this music reinvigorated the african rhythmic aspect of improvised music & introduced electronic music to jazz. by his own admission, miles he was addicted to coke during this time which is why he burned out.
halfmonk 1 year ago
@halfmonk. when i say THIS music, i mean the electric period miles. almost all musicians now recognize that period as one of miles' most innovative. only the curators of the museum of dead jazz like marsalis, crouch, etc.), take issue with that fact. it is because marsalis and his ilk don't get it and they have a vested interest in promoting their version of jazz history. their version which leaves them in charge as proprietors of jazz. as jack dejohnette said, "jazz is about innovation."
halfmonk 1 year ago
@halfmonk. marsalis would have every innovation in jazz excluded from his revisionist history of jazz including the free period of coltrane, albert ayler, the art ensemble of chicago and the entire AACM, cecil taylor, don cherry, eric dolphy, etc. shall i go on? the list is too long to post. marsalis is, like jarret, full of shit. there is no single history of jazz. if you don't like that music then say so. it's subjective and nothing more. don't create some mythology to rationalize it.
halfmonk 1 year ago
@halfmonk Seens its only you and I that actually knew Miles' habit(s). Jarret was and still is a revisionist due to his actual knowledge related to constructing harmonic sounds into rhythms. His ear is extremely sensitive and he is one who knows if someone actually knows and understands. One subject you mention is basaically up for debate. African Rhythic aspect of improvised music was actually the problem: to those who know, there is no such thing as improvision. Only for those untrained.
publius352 1 year ago
@publius352 Yes sir. That's the tripple-truth, Ruth.
FingersPlainview 1 year ago
@publius352 i have no idea what you're talking about but you're bordering on delusional. jarrett had no idea what miles was doing. that's clear from every interview that he gave about the miles electric period. those who are enslaved by euro-centric harmonic concepts can't hear what miles was doing because it has nothing to do with that. there is no such thing as improvisation? are you a musician? just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
halfmonk 2 months ago
@halfmonk Rite On! I co-sign everything you posit! Spot on!
afrikan57 5 months ago
I saw Miles' band in '73 @ the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. Cosey, Lucas,& possibly Foster had joined the tour.
bmuhamad 2 years ago
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cali22boi 2 years ago
Thank alot Baba. They were really LOUD.
Peace. P.S. Nina Simone & The Last Poets, were there also. Let's re: the music , when you get time. Peace
bmuhamad 2 years ago
Aaaaaaaaahhhhh!
LodoGrdzak 2 years ago
This is great music but in my opinion it went on getting better and better up to '75. Al Foster - Pete Cosey - Reggie Lucas - Michael Henderson. I wish i'd seen that band - some of the best music ever done.
CAWTEXCAWTEX 2 years ago 2
@CAWTEXCAWTEX and Sonny Effing Fortune was smokin' on all that stuff.
Zappatero 1 year ago
i'm only 15 and i can still see how this influenced so many types of modern music, this is real talent.
2ojacko7 2 years ago
is this video from just before the formation of the Bartz-Dejohnette-Henderson-Jarrett group? or at the end when dejohnette left?
whosetoewasit 2 years ago
Keith Jarrett played the Fender Rhodes quite a lot, particularly with the Charles Lloyd quartet before this. Now he plays a specially prepared piano that has hard action much like a Rhodes. No one ever had more "issues" in terms of jazz performance than Miles!
gamoonbat 2 years ago
I love Miles fusion work. Live-evil, water babies, on the corner. I wanna get into more of it after playing standards and bebop for so many years. I need a change in texture. This is great shit.
groovinhigh487 2 years ago
I recommend "Dark Magus", if that's useful to you.... =)
TheRealDerfMan 2 years ago
Dark Magus is indeed a great suggestion, check out the "Cellar Door sessions". 6 cd's, it may be expensive, but i can't stop listening to it and i've had it about 2 years. Jarrett rules on Rhodes and some electric organ at the same time...
whosetoewasit 2 years ago
Yeah Keith has his issues and I'm not a big fan of him, due to his atitude, but he's skill full and I only like his playing with miles, I tho think its absured that he devoids the Fender rhodes. I love the rhodes and its a charm to play. he's just I guess what you calll "Special" but his brother chris Jarrett is realy good. yeah Chick herbie and zawinul is the King of Fender rhodes. RIP Harold Rhodes "The Creator of Fine Instrument".
dhampex 2 years ago
interesting to see Keith Jarrett doing the fender rhodes part that was usually played by Chick Corea. Corea was the GOD of fender rhodes. His melodic lines and accompaniment were absolutely supreme - he was essential to the Bitches Brew Era. Keith Jarrett is a marvelous musician, but you can tell he is not completely comfortable playing the electric piano.
Justino111 2 years ago
Great post and performance. Never get tired of this shit despite the haters.
LodoGrdzak 3 years ago
rare...fantastic.
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evaqator 3 years ago
rear footage, fantastic
Face202 3 years ago
sweet post... thanks for sharing... i almost like ndugu more than jack...
saxnviolinz 4 years ago
I think this is 'Sanctuary' not Jack Johnson suite as the title says from the 1st few notes of the tpt/sax entry
finchtrump 4 years ago
yeah i agree, tho miles often did quote himself
caoniya 2 years ago
This band was the SHIZZY!!!!
babs411 4 years ago
they were creating an entirely new music that had never been played before nightly. its still the s#*t 30 years later
pgonzo98 4 years ago 2
ive been listening to very type of genre of musis for the past 30 years,and i will definately admit miles davis has got to be my all time favourite! what a musician
doyve06 4 years ago 6
I love it. Amazing. Miles is a legend.
Selftaught 5 years ago
There is a CD called "another bitches brew" with the same line up in Belgrade. Check it out.
ghettowalk 5 years ago 2
Thank you man I was always wondering were I could find a live album of this FANTASTIC line up.Thanks again
01121945 4 years ago
Oh my GOD!! Extremely rare footage of Miles's transition from the "Bitches Brew/Fillmore East" lineup to the funkified Electric Band. Didn't even know this lineup played together!!
BlackfyreWarrior 5 years ago
Remarkable
usmann777 5 years ago