Herman Cain is a clueless joke. The occupy protesters are not jealous, they are pissed off! And they have every right to be, his defense of big banks is ridiculous! He should drop out of the race for those statements alone! The G.O.P had better start supporting the ONLY candidate that can beat Obama, RON PAUL!
Wall STREET, BANKS, FEMA, GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS ETC ALL WORK FOR THE SAME REASON!! THIS IS OUR FUTURE ON THE LINE! I WILL NOT PUT MY FUTURE IN THE HANDS OF THESE CURRUPT BASTARDS!! END THE FEDS! BRING BACK OUR TROOPS AND END THE WARS! RESTORE OUR FREEDOMS, BRING BACK SOUND MONEY!
GIVE ME RON PAUL OR GIVE ME DEATH!
Cain,Perry, Rommey ALL them mutha fuckers are the SAME!!!
Paul is the real deal, but the media NEVER shows him!!
Obama is the first President that is an enemy to the people. He acts as if the part of America that doesn't agree with his actions simply doesn't exist. He knows all about what America is and is about. He just HATES it. Played Hope a Dope with white libs who wanted to congratulate themselves for not being racists, even though they see everything in terms of race and gender. Anyone with a brain saw all this coming and just couldn't believe it was happening. Well... here it is.
@hellotommy Yea tommy, I saw it coming. And here it is: An end to the Bush depression, death to Bin Laden, death to Ghadaffi, A doubling of the stock mkt, Obama saves the auto mfg sector, Iraq, FINALLY is over, Afgh next yr. Thank God BO arrived when he did. OK now, repeat after me tommy boy, Prsident Barrack Hussein Obama two terms!!!!!!!!
@hellotommy I say this because i listen to his radio talk show and he preaches separation of Americans. Anytime you start with Democrats this and republicans that you are dividing this nation and this is as bad as being a thug in my view. The leaders of this country have failed us on both sides and i refuse to play the game of separatism. I may not know you but if you are American then i think we somewhat want the same thing and that's a great country to say the least and we don't have that.
@pigeonpsycho Yeah, we better stick with Obama. He's been so good for the country. He's so honest and trustworthy. And he's done a great job with the economy.
@crobarus they're both owned by the same people - hence why none of them want to end the federal reserve and the private banking cartels that own America.
Democrats wont vote for him because they are racist. Having one black parent is one thing, but two?!? Thats just too black for a modern day progressive 'liberal'!
This couldn't be serious!! embarrassing to see this guy attempting to win curry favor from Ppl who I'm sure make a spectacle of him out of his presence...Will someone nudge this guy??? he's asleep @ the wheel...
"Herman Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996" - Wiki
We have followed him for 2 yrs at TEA Party functions, he is a great entertainer; but this fact keeps raising its ugly head???
Idiotic and delusional Paul and Cain supporters. As if republicans and their big money supporters would ever let either run as the republican challenge to Obama. Republicans in charge want someone who is more to the left of extreme right in order to even have a chance of winning the Presidency. So, get used to the fact that your republican, including tea party leaders have already decided that Romney is their man. Sad eh? Serves you right.
@lizardgizard2002 that's where your wrong people are finding out Romney's flip flopping ideology. the country is tired of nutcase leftist MOOREtards running this government. he just had support of the Tea Party because he was the only stand out candidate a few months ago. but as time progresses people learn about the candidates and that's why Herman Cain is winning. Romney is another Bush to the Tea Party now, Cain will eat Obama alive right off his teleprompter if he wins the nomination.
For the first time, I can see how the political spectrum isn't a straight line with the far left on one side and far right on the other. Ron Paul and his LIBERALtarian worshippers have convinced me that it's really a circle; because the point where the LIBERALtarians and LIBERALS meet looks identical. They use the same bully tactics, the same disingenuous arguements and the same pathetic attempts at character assassination. They believe the US caused 911 and Iran isn't a threat to us.
@Rhiannon003 Hey, don't insult Liberals. Paul wants deep cuts and smaller government, wants lower taxes and is a constitutionalist, etc. He has teabagger support. That is all right wing delusional bullcrap. He is pro life an a racist and that is right wing too. It is right wing nuts that belong to the Alex Jones cult that believe all these nutty conspiracy theories and they are all conservatives. The few sane moderate conservatives are close to liberals not teahadists conservative radicals.
@lizardgizard2002 I think the Republican/Democratic establishment is the big cult. The parties and their followers do pretty much the same things. They only vigorously argue along a narrow band of acceptable political opinion.
Can you show me where in the constitution that the fed govt is given the power to wage a war on drugs? That's a state issue. Can you show me where in the Constitution that allows the govt. to ignore the 4th Amendment as with the UnPatriotic Act?
@Jacoby515 Only conspiracy theorists and nut cases think the century is screwed up. Sure it looks bad for America because of the self inflicted wounds over the last 20 years of the 20th century, but many countries are doing much better. America is not the world. America is declining and other countries are growing an prospering. Unless someone gets tough on improving education, immigration, lowering spending, increasing taxes, it will continue until the US reaches 3rd world status.
@lizardgizard2002 Well, I want a bigger shlong, but it ain't gonna happen now, is it? Ron Paul has no chance. You're wasting your time supporting him.
@BarefootArizona My god do you need a reading comprehension course. Read my comment again. I o not support any right wing nut cases. Neither Paul or Cain.
@Rhiannon003 I think you and the Democrats have more in commmon. They think (like you) that there should be unconstitional fiat currency and a central bank. They think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, can be centrally plan. They reject the free market as you do.
Cain and Romney thought stimulus and TARP were good ideas. They rejected the free market solution. They didn't even see the crash coming because they don't understand the source of it.
@Rhiannon003 Paul promises to end the Departments of Commerce, Energy, Agriculture, Education, and the Federal Reserve. None of those things are constitutional. The first three are protections, favors, and subsidization of large firms at the expense of consumers and smaller competitors. They are not consistent with free markets. Cain and Romney support these corporatist non-free market departments.
You, Cain, and Romney are big government statists who pretend to be free market.
@Rhiannon003 Why did GWB expand the welfare state at the fastest pace since LBJ? Why de he also expand the regulatory state at the fastest pace since another Republican in Nixon? Why did he expand the fed. govt. overall at the fastest pace since FDR?
Why did Cain and Romney act as cheerleaders for all of that socialism? Why do they pretend that they are free market.
Why does Cain pretend that he is free market when he was the Pres. of K.C. Federal Reserve--the largest regulator in world?
I think Ron Paul is nuts, so I don't watch his videos; but I don't think I have seen one Cain video without a bunch of Ron Paul supporters making negative comments. Is this some kind of campaign tactic you kids do? Do you honestly believe that if weren't voting Cain, we'd vote for Ron Paul? How would you like it if you couldn't read the comments in a Paul video without having to scroll through a bunch of garbage negative ads that no one bothers to read anyways?
@Rhiannon003 We think you guys are delusional. Your man was quoted as saying that the economy was just fine a month before the crisis hit. Ron Paul was warning about it since 2002. He predicted the bankruptcy of Freddie and Fannie and major banks.
The reason that Paul understood is that he is far better read on monetary, banking, and econonomics. He understood that the most important price in an economy, the interest rate, can't be pushed down to zero artificially without a bubble.
We don't care what Ron Paul supporters think of Cain. We may have bothered to read something you kids wrote once or twice; but we get it now. You're just as crazy as Paul. We dont' even read it anymore. Please just go away.
@Rhiannon003 Why won't you answer the questions? Are you a child? Do you lack an understanding of economics and money? Do you deny that Cain supported TARP? Do you deny that he supported so-called Keynesian stimulus--first in 2001 and then in 2008 and 2009. Those are central planning ideas. They are why the economy is so out of whack and the debt is so high.
Why does Cain support unconstitutional federal dept.'s like Energy, Agriculture, Commerce, etc. Why does he support fiat currency?
@Rhiannon003 I think you are crazy. Cain has already admitted that he isn't going to lower taxes. Can't you read or listen? He said that scrapping the income tax and replace it with a consumption tax must be "REVENUE NEUTRAL." Does that compute? The obvious inference is that he thinks that tax revenue is just right.
Why does Cain support unconstitutional fiat currency. The Congress is given the power to COIN money? How do you COIN paper notes? Where is the Fed authorized in the Constitution?
@Rhiannon003 Why won't you defend your big government fake conservative with facts? He isn't going to change foreign policy. He isn't going to follow the Founders' advivce to not to create entangling alliances or be looking for dragons to slay abroad.
Why do you think Cane is no non-free market on money, banking, and interest rates. He likes central planning in these areas.
Jefferson and Jackson warned that central banks and paper currency were tools to concentrate wealth and grow govt.
You call the ads "negative" because he just points out the inconsistencies in your guys record.
Anyone who thinks that in the aftermath of a burst credit bubble of the Federal Reserve's creation (Cain worked at the K.C. branch) that you spend more, borrow more, prop up prices, print more, etc. is by definition insane. Those are the things that caused the problem for crying out loud.
Cain supported TARP. He supported the Fed buying up toxic assets from banks and moving them to tax payers.
@Rhiannon003 Who's we? You said "we" are voting for Cain. You mean big government statists who supported unconstitutional departments like Energy, Commerce, Education, and Agriculture. 3 of the 4 have become corporatist tools of firms looking for protections and subsidies.
Why does Cain support the unconstitutional non-free market central bank. It creates a banking cartel. Why do you and Cain think money and interest rates need to be centrally planned? Are you socialists?
Thinking about Romney and Cain as our leaders makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. I don't care what any of you guys say, my feelings are real, and I'm a good Conservative man(not perfect of course)
@PInk77W1 Cain supported TARP. Cain supported "stimulus." Those aren't free market. Cain supported the Federal Reserve creating money out of nothing to buy bank toxic assets that were then transferred to the rest of us.
Cain supports central planning of the most important price in the economy in the interest rate. Cain isn't a free market man. He is a big government corporatist.
@ccg8881 So you like big government Cain? Why doesn't he proposed getting rid of unconstitional Dept.'s like Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, and Education? The first 3 are just corporate welfare and protections for large firms along with central planning measures. They aren't consistent with free markets. Why does Cain support them?
Why did Cain support TARP, 1st stimulus? Why did he support the non-free market Federal Reserve buying up toxic assets with money created out of nothing?
@jer295 Cain is a corporatist, not a free market man. The Federal Reserve and fiat currency are non-free market measures that transfer unearned wealth to finance and the govt.'s favorite interest factions.
Why did Cain support non-free market bailouts like TARP? Why did he support the Federal Reserve's buying of toxic assets that were transferred from Wall Street to Main Street?
Why does Cain support the corporatist arrangement between govt. and business--especially banking?
No, this isn't about Obama. His statement is purely political. Vote Obama out, and vote him in, and we will have the EXACT SAME PROBLEMS. DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, REPUBLICANS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM. Party lines are an illusion.
@jdman331 No he's not. He's spot on right here. He's just telling it like it is. This man is not an elitist lib, he's a real man. And a patriot, regardless of what SHITHEAD O' Donnell has to say.
I'm proud he is a Republican, just like I'm proud Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican.
Cain supports corporatism, not free markets. Bailouts are theft! Cain supported non-free market TARP. Cain supports the non-free market Federal Reserve system. Cain is opposed to private mintage and gold/silver constitutional money. He likes centrally planned non-free market paper notes.
The most important price in the economy is the interest rate. Cain thinks that it shouldn't be free market. He thinks the Fed can centrally plan it. He's a corporatist, not free market.
@BarefootArizona RomneyCare. Romney sounds like a Democrat. He supported TARP. That isn't free market. He supports non-free market corporatist arrangements like mandates, subsidies, public-private partnerships, bailouts, unconstitutional government departments, and on and on.
What specific cuts are these people going to make? What specific regulatory bodies will they end
You are just getting taken down the river again. There is a dime's worth of difference between the party establishments
@joepeeler34 TARP, although hard to swallow, I believe is the only exception. There was a surplus, btw. Romney said no to all other bailouts, and I agree. You can't see that he knows what's going on? Who cares what faith he is? The only thing I care is that he understands how the free market, our economy, and out currency work. and he does.
The religious aspect is bullcrap. Who the heck cares? I would vote for Muslim if he was a true Conservative(realistic ELECTABLE you know?)
@BarefootArizona You understand that the Constitution doesn't give the federal government the power to create a central bank? Why do you think Jefferson and Jackson worked so hard for sound money and against central banks?
Why do you think the most important price in an economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned. That's very socialistic. You don't understand or support free markets if you give approval for that. You are not a real conservative. You are a big government statist.
@joepeeler34 Ok, I understand where you're coming from, and I agree. HOWEVER sir, you need to accept certain "realities" of politics and life in general. Hermain Cain or Romney can't come on here and say close down the Federal Reserve(even though I gaurantee they agree, these are smart men not LIBS). You have to accept a bit of P.C. Don't let that fool you into someone that will LOSE to Obama.
Obama is a Liberal. A flaming Liberal. Isn't that scary to you? Romney is NOT. Peace...
@BarefootArizona Herman Cain doesn't want to close down the Federal Reserve. He was the President of the Kansas City Federal Reserve for crying out loud. The Fed is unconstitutional. It creates price inflation. They debase our dollar. They try to centrally plan the economy. And Cain wants to talk about Obama being a socialist!!! Socialism is central planning. The Fed engages in economic central planning.
NOTHING is more important than the monetary issue. It's one-half of every transaction.
@BarefootArizona How is it that Ron Paul saw this crisis coming years in advance. He warned that the Federal Reserve was going to blow up a credit bubble in 2002 and onward when he saw what they were doing with interest rates. Credit comes from savings in a free market, not a central banks' manipulation of the credit money supply. You understand that a central bank is anathema to a free market, right?
Why did GWB and Cheney not see this, either. They are incompetent like Romney and Cain.
@joepeeler34 We all knew that(Besides, I love Ron Paul, I'm a Conservative.) I'm not saying Ron Paul was wrong. He is right.
I want to do what's best for our Nation. We can't afford another 4 years of these Liberals in power. It's killing us and it's going to lead to cotastrophe(I don't have spell check).
I'm just saying BE LOGICAL. Romney and Cain have the best chances of whooping this Socialist Lib in 2012.
Btw, I grew up around black people and Obama is a cracker. Peace
@BarefootArizona Cain and Romney aren't any better. The monetary system has to be fixed. Cain or Romney or Perry aren't going to address the Federal Reserve or fiat currency. They think the Fed can centrally plan the most important price in the economy.
The boom/bust cycle comes from central banks. Price inflation is not naturally occurring. It is a product of the central bank and fiat currency. Prices fell 21% from 1788 to 1913 (creation of the Fed.)
@BarefootArizona Ron Paul is the one who will get the most independent votes and some leftists will vote for him because of his positions on war, the Patriot Act, the war on drugs, and civil liberties. They may not agree with him on everything, but they know he isn't in bed with corporations.
Cain and Romney support many corporatist measures. Corporatism is a type of central planning. Govt. gets in bed with business and the consumer is no longer in charge. It centralizes power.
@joepeeler34 NO WAY. Ron Paul is the POLAR FREAKING OPPOSITE of a Spendocrat. Just because Liberals are mostly brain-dead, doesn't mean they won't learn about Ron Paul 's other "LOGICAL AND CORRECT" POLICIES. Again, unfortunately, we have to deal with political correctness and politics. That's just a fact of life and I'm sorry for it.
If anything, look at Romney/Cain as the .lesser of two evils. THE FAR LESSER. I'm Mormon, and I bet we'de be friends if we met, fyi.
@BarefootArizona If you pick the lesser of two evils, you are still picking evil. In some ways establishment drones like Cane and Romney are just as bad as Democrats. I can't tell the difference between Romney and Democrats.
Cane is a corporatist who likes subsidies, public-private partnerships, regulations to create barriers to entry, the Federal Reserve--which serves to protect the big banks, fiat currency, and centrally planned artificially low interest rates--a direct subsidy to banks.
You don't seem to know much about the Paulies. They don't think 0bama is any worse than Cain, Romney, Perry or any of the others. All they see is Ron Paul and "neocons". Many of them would like to see 0bama reelected just to punish us for not supporting Ron Paul. ...And are not shy about saying so.
I'm not trying to be harsh or nasty. I just want you to be aware of what you're dealing with here.
@qpwillie They need to recognize that they're wrong, and I will never stop trying to get them on our team. Conservatives are smart and independant people(man or woman, black or white). These are my type of people and I will never give up trying to form a Union with them that can destroy the forces of "evil" (Liberalism, socialism, COMMUNISM-over my dead body) You see?
This isn't a religious competition. This is politics, and we need some sanity in there. Even if it's only "some"
@BarefootArizona If conservatives are smart, then why do they keep voting for Republican establishment drones who don't follow or even understand the Constitution. Gold and silver are to be monies. The Federal Reserve is unconstitutional. The entitlement programs are unconstitutional--though we'll have to slowly phase them out.
Bailouts and TARP are unconstitional. Mandates, subsidies, public-private partnerships, many federal departments are unconstitional. Romney supports these things.
@BarefootArizona Really, what's the difference in the rhetoric between Cain, Romney and Bush? Didn't Bush use free market rhetoric to sell corporatist and socialist programs? What SPECIFIC departments have Cain and Romney promised to eliminate?
They both think money, interest rates, and banking can be centrally planned to good effect. You are getting conned....again. The establishment of the GOP does the same damn thing as Democrats. Cain and Romney are establishment drones.
@joepeeler34 Romney doesn't owe anybody-anything. Corporations donate to his campaign because they feel like he will help the economy. That's a NO-BRAINER
Romney already made his money. He has 4 boys, and 16 grand-children(inevitably there will be many more), so why would he want to leave a bad legacy behind?
Nah, I'm going for Romney/Cain 2012. We'll see what happens, but arguing about the past and making false accusations isn't going to get us anywhere. Peace : )
@BarefootArizona Corporations donate to Romney's campaign because he will help the economy? Alrighty then!! LOL! Could it be that some of those firms hate laissez-faire capitalism because there are no protections? They must constantly compete? There is much class and market share movement up and DOWN.
Many of them prefer corporatist measures like mandates, subusidies, public-private partnerships, regulations designed to create barriers to entry, tax credits that only large firms can access.
@joepeeler34 Just wait and see. Romney is going to shock the world. He is going to cut out the loopholes, and he is going to grow this economy. We're talking jobs in the private sector.
He will work (with The Dems mind you, because unfortunately they are there), to expand domestic drilling. Just wait and see. Big things are a comin...
@BarefootArizona I have seen Romney is action. He increased fees (taxes) and regulations in Mass. Government did not shrink. He isn't going to cut anything.
It's not just the loopholes. It's the public-private partnerships, mandates (Romney loves those!), state-sanctioned cartels (see Federal Reserve and ratings agencies), regulations that create barriers to entry, etc.
Romney isn't opposed to those things. Listen to his rhetoric. Check his record. He might as well be a Democrat.
@BarefootArizona I'm sure that Romney means well. It's just that his ideas are bad. Obama means well,too. It's just that his ideas are bad.
Romney is a statist. Cain is a statist. They think the Federal Reserve should attempt to centrally plan the economy.
They think spending is the source of wealth creation which is why they suported the Bush and Obama stimulus measures (at least the first one with Obama). For political reasons they pretend to oppose Keynesian stimulus now.
I'm sure Romney meant well when signed the Mass. health care mandate (socialist/corporatist hybrid). It hasn't worked out very well. He had already "made his money" when he signed that into law.
The reason that Romney (and Cain if he continues to poll well and win some primaries) gets corporate cash is because he is promising things. Corporatism is a type of central planning. Connected firms and govt are in charge. In a free market the consumer is in charge. Cain and Romney are frauds.
@joepeeler34 Massachusetts has every right to have mandated healthcare. Romney has already said that the first thing he will do is repeal ObamaCare. I believe him.
Nope, Romney hasn't made any promises. I believe him over you, with all due respect. He was a good Governor, and he NEVER broke any promises to his Liberal constituents.
Conservatives seem to forget how Liberal Massachusetts is. Sometimes you have to make compramises in order to do THE RIGHT THING.
@BarefootArizona Under the Constitution there is nothing that restricts the states from doing that. That is true. It's still moronic. It isn't consistent with free markets and liberty.
Romney is a soft socialist. You are getting conned....again. How are those corporatist dept.'s like Energy, Commerce, and Agriculture consistent with free markets?
How is fiat currency, planned interest rates, and a central bank consistent with a free market.
@BarefootArizona Romney and Cain just use free market rhetoric because they know that is what the some people want to hear. They are never specific. Then their proposals and actions belie their rhetoric. It's the same con that Bush employed.
Why do you impute free market ideas on these people? You imagine that there is some great difference between Obama and establishment R's. They only disgree along a narrow band. It's a joke. It's not a chioce, it's an echo.
@joepeeler34In a perfect world, Ron Paul and his adorable wife are in The White House.We live in an imperfect world. You may not agree with Romney's faith, but know that he is true to his faith.
And I know his faith teaches self-reliance. It teaches thriftiness. It teaches that we have freewill.I wish Romney wasnt Mormon because it seems to be the only thing(besides the misunderstanding of his STATE healthcare bill)He is not a gosh darn socialist.I would be the last to support him if he were
@BarefootArizona I don't care about Romney's faith. I am an atheist. It's irrelevant to me. Why would any sane person care about whether he is Mormon?
I care about ideas. Romney is a statist. Romney thinks the U.S. should police the world. Romney thinks the Federal Reserve should centrally plan the economy. Romney supports all kinds of unconstitutional measures.
Romney might has well call himself a progressive.
Romney supports fiat currency. Romney supports public-private partnerships.
@BarefootArizona Romney supports the unconstitutional war on drugs. That is a state and local matter. I personally think people who think prohibition works need to check reality.
Romney support TARP. Romney support stimulus. Romney laughed at Ron Paul when Paul told him that a housing bubble had been blown up and the economy was already in recession. It was just that establishment drones like Romney don't understand the business cycle because he hasn't read enough of economics.
You're so far off the mark, it's pitiful. Herman Cain knows that this is not just another bad president. 0bama is not doing a bad job the way he sees it. He's doing exactly what he set out to do and Mr. Cain knows it just like the rest of us know it. In fact, Mr. Cain has stated that he's aware of it.
@qpwillie Cain supported TARP. Cain supported the original stimulus. Cain supported the non-free market Federal Reserve system. Cain supports unconsitutional non-free market fiat paper currency. Cain supported non-free market bailouts.
Cain was quoted as late as the summer of 2008 saying the housing market and economy were just fine.
Ron Paul was warning consistently from 2002 onward that the Federal Reserve and govt. subsidies were blowing up a housing bubble. Cain is incompetent.
Look, I don't have time to argue with a bunch of glarry eyed Paulies. You will attack anybody who is not Ron Paul. ...And I mean ANYBODY. That's one of the reasons most people won't vote for him.
You won't argue because you are a big government statist who doesn't understand monetary history, economics, or the Constituion's instuctions on monetary issues.
Why do you think the most important price in the economy--the interest rate--should be managed by the Federal Reserve?
I think fake neo-cons (not real conservatives) are the ones who are "glazed"-eyed. Nobody wants your wars.
Cain didn't see housing bubble. Paul did. Cain=incompetent
@qpwillie You can't argue. I think Cain has a cult of neo-con statists who think they are voting for a constitutionalists and free market man.
Why do you think you support free markets while supporting a Federal Reserve/fiat currency system? Why do you think a product like money has to be centrally planned? Why do you think the most important price in an economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned.
Why didn't the economically illiterate Cain see housing bubble coming in 2008?
@joepeeler34 Cain is a success in business. You have no such success but whine and complain. Who, therefore should people listen to? Who is economically illiterate, a successful business man or a bumbling follower of the Paul cult who is stuck in the 18th century?
@qpwillie I think you are clearly a brainwashed Republican party hack? You don't see that the establishments of both parties do the same things.
Bush expanded the govt. the fastest since Roosevelt. He expanded the welfare state faster than anyone since LBJ. He expanded the regulatory state faster than anyone since anther R in Nixon
Why did Cain say that the economy and housing sector were just fine in the summer of 2008. 6-years earlier Ron Paul was warning about the what the Fed was doing
@qpwillie Why does your guy not stand up for the Constitution. The Constitution says that Congress shall COIN money. How do you COIN paper notes. It refers to Standards of Weights and Measures. How are "Weights and Measures" germane to paper notes? It's referring to the weight of the precious metal and fineness of it.
The dollar was defines as 371 1/4 grains of fine silver. The Coinage Act of 1792 codified this.
Jefferson and Jackson warned about central banks and fiat paper notes.
@punkshaman Yes, he is. Interventionism abroad and involvement in social issues. He says he wants to get rid of the income tax but replace it with a "revenue neutral" consumption tax. The inference being that the tax levels are just fine. It's just a matter of how it is done. That sounds like a big govt. statist.
Ron Paul says he will eliminate Dept.'s of Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, and Education. The first three are corporate slush funds. Cain likes unconstitutional dept.'s.
@punkshaman Also, Cain doesn't want to challenge the curreny unconsitutional Federal Reserve/fiat currency system. The Congress is to COIN money, not the Federal Reserve print worthless paper notes. Also, private mintage used to be common before govt. banned it.
Cain was at the K.C. Federal Reserve. It's the most powerful regulator in the world. And Cain wants to talk about regulations? Ha! Interest rates should be free market, not centrally planned.
YES! THAT THE WAY YOU DO IT! ATTACK OBAMA! All this talk on immigration, Romneycare, Gay soldiers, Gardasil, capital punishment are nothing but distractions. OBAMA IS THE PROBLEM! DEMOCRATS ARE THE PROBLEM! When they lose elections THINGS WILL GET BETTER!
@megamaniac76 The Republican party isn't any better in action. They both support the unconstitutiona, non-free market Federal Reserve/fiat currency monetary system? Neither is consistent with free markets.
Private mintage used to be common until it was banned by govt. to shore up its money monopoly in the 1860's. The govt's money is to be gold and silver, but private minters can compete.
Why did Cain support socialist solutions to the credit bubble bursting?
@qpwillie He is a big government statist. Why does he support a "revenue neutral" replacement for the income tax? That means he thinks tax levels are about right.
Why does Cain support non-free market bailouts like TARP? Why did he support non-free market stimulus?
Why does he support unconstitutional fiat paper currency? Why does he support a central bank that isn't consitutional? Why does he speak about deregulation when he worked for the FED, the most powerful regulator in the world?
@BarefootArizona Nope , you sure are not weird for watching this three times...Herman Cain seems to be one of the few persons still making sense in this county any more.
@toogawn I'm a Mitt Romney supporter, but I wouldn't mind seeing Cain get the nod. I really wouldn't Perry either. I REALLY wouldn't mind seeing a Romney/Cain ticket.
@dustsmoke its becoming more commo0n among the Republican Party. People with passion and real world experience are becoming more popular than the empty suits with money.
@punkshaman A govt is not a business. Why did Cain support TARP? Why did he riducule real free market people who wanted to let debt be liquidated, prices fall, and labor and capital be reallocated in the wake of the Federal Reserve-created bubble? Why did he support non-free market bailouts? Why does he support unconstitutional Federal Reserve and fiat currency? Why does he think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned by the Federal Reserve?
@dustsmoke He's very much a politician. He says he will cut spending, but where? Will he cut unconsitutional Dept's like Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, and Education. Does he tell agribusinesses that subsidies are socialism. Ron Paul does.
Why did non-free market Cain support TARP and stimulus? Why does he support socialist Keynesian monetary and stimulus measures? Why does he support the unconstitional Federal Reserve/fiat currency system? Neither are consistent with free markets.
Cain supported a 700 billion dollar TARP program. That's not free market. He supported the Federal Reserve buying up bad debt of banks and putting them on the tax payers' books. That's not free market.
Cain didn't see the housing collapse coming. Ron Paul did many years in advance.
Cain supports unconstitutional fiat currency and the Federal Reserve. Jefferson warned us about fiat paper notes and central banks. So did Jackson.
@dustsmoke Mitt Romney has been answering with direct answers as well. Give credit where credit is due. Mitt Romney and Hermain Cain are a perfect ticket.
Herman Cain is a clueless joke. The occupy protesters are not jealous, they are pissed off! And they have every right to be, his defense of big banks is ridiculous! He should drop out of the race for those statements alone! The G.O.P had better start supporting the ONLY candidate that can beat Obama, RON PAUL!
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RON PAUL 2012!!!
Wall STREET, BANKS, FEMA, GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS ETC ALL WORK FOR THE SAME REASON!! THIS IS OUR FUTURE ON THE LINE! I WILL NOT PUT MY FUTURE IN THE HANDS OF THESE CURRUPT BASTARDS!! END THE FEDS! BRING BACK OUR TROOPS AND END THE WARS! RESTORE OUR FREEDOMS, BRING BACK SOUND MONEY!
GIVE ME RON PAUL OR GIVE ME DEATH!
Cain,Perry, Rommey ALL them mutha fuckers are the SAME!!!
Paul is the real deal, but the media NEVER shows him!!
This is our last chance!!!
lilshontaycandy 4 months ago
Now here you go! This man has it all right! Mr. Cain you have my vote!
TomahawkTater 4 months ago
Herman Cain loves to point the finger at Obama and the White House when the Republicans put us in this shit to begin with, smh.....
mlpdade 4 months ago
@mlpdade AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!
powerface71 4 months ago
Obama is the first President that is an enemy to the people. He acts as if the part of America that doesn't agree with his actions simply doesn't exist. He knows all about what America is and is about. He just HATES it. Played Hope a Dope with white libs who wanted to congratulate themselves for not being racists, even though they see everything in terms of race and gender. Anyone with a brain saw all this coming and just couldn't believe it was happening. Well... here it is.
hellotommy 4 months ago
@hellotommy Yea tommy, I saw it coming. And here it is: An end to the Bush depression, death to Bin Laden, death to Ghadaffi, A doubling of the stock mkt, Obama saves the auto mfg sector, Iraq, FINALLY is over, Afgh next yr. Thank God BO arrived when he did. OK now, repeat after me tommy boy, Prsident Barrack Hussein Obama two terms!!!!!!!!
Loejyrrab 3 weeks ago
Herman Cain is a Jesse Jackson for the republicans and is working hard to divide this nation.
newsoundfactory 4 months ago
@newsoundfactory Jesse Jackson is a Thug that shakesdown people for money, how does Herman Cain compare?
hellotommy 4 months ago
@hellotommy I say this because i listen to his radio talk show and he preaches separation of Americans. Anytime you start with Democrats this and republicans that you are dividing this nation and this is as bad as being a thug in my view. The leaders of this country have failed us on both sides and i refuse to play the game of separatism. I may not know you but if you are American then i think we somewhat want the same thing and that's a great country to say the least and we don't have that.
newsoundfactory 4 months ago
Ha cane how about 000 sounds good to me
tlbashort 4 months ago
damn right theyre anti- capitalism. the twisted fuckin capitalism, and keep your fucking cadillac no one wants that shit.
goldengirl19 4 months ago
look at all the sheep stand up, ready to walk to the slaughter
pigeonpsycho 4 months ago
@pigeonpsycho Yeah, we better stick with Obama. He's been so good for the country. He's so honest and trustworthy. And he's done a great job with the economy.
crobarus 4 months ago
@crobarus they're both owned by the same people - hence why none of them want to end the federal reserve and the private banking cartels that own America.
pigeonpsycho 4 months ago
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@pigeonpsycho So would you vote for Obama again because you "think" they're the same?
crobarus 4 months ago
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t is true sasquatch that when rob heard the beautiful people the beautiful people he drops a monkey into the cage of beautiful people.
shush robot , i'm trying to speak to the thingie guy dude Oz, dude.
already hair of chinny chinny chin.
come here mr foo man choo...
confucious say man who walk onto airport door sides going to Bangkok, a passage to
SuperMegaUberGenius 4 months ago
God bless Herman Cain. This guy has a backbone. lol
andrewpeter05 4 months ago 2
Democrats wont vote for him because they are racist. Having one black parent is one thing, but two?!? Thats just too black for a modern day progressive 'liberal'!
joejohnson043 4 months ago
Cain is badass! That was exactly the right perspective!
joejohnson043 4 months ago 2
Cain for pres
beefking69er 4 months ago 2
Herman Cain is going to win this primary, and will be the next president of the United States. Get on the Herman Cain train!!!!
m60madness 4 months ago 5
@m60madness he will never win. if he does. ill kill him myself. you can count on that.
khorn1994 2 months ago
*** CAPITALISM IS ANTI-HUMANITY ***
*** CAPITALISM IS PRO-GREED ***
*** WALL STREET IS THE WHITE HOUSE ***
*** YOU WILL NOT SILENCE US ***
oODarkEnergyOo 4 months ago
@oODarkEnergyOo I can silence you right now with the thumbs down button. LOL stupid liberal kiddie.
curtiskessler 4 months ago
@oODarkEnergyOo No, but you will silence one of the greatest African Americans in history like you did in Atlanta though you racist pigs!
chadsem 4 months ago
GO GO GO HERMAN CAIN!
1Snooper1 4 months ago
This couldn't be serious!! embarrassing to see this guy attempting to win curry favor from Ppl who I'm sure make a spectacle of him out of his presence...Will someone nudge this guy??? he's asleep @ the wheel...
ScholarMusic 4 months ago
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"Herman Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996" - Wiki
We have followed him for 2 yrs at TEA Party functions, he is a great entertainer; but this fact keeps raising its ugly head???
alybower 4 months ago
Idiotic and delusional Paul and Cain supporters. As if republicans and their big money supporters would ever let either run as the republican challenge to Obama. Republicans in charge want someone who is more to the left of extreme right in order to even have a chance of winning the Presidency. So, get used to the fact that your republican, including tea party leaders have already decided that Romney is their man. Sad eh? Serves you right.
lizardgizard2002 4 months ago
@lizardgizard2002 that's where your wrong people are finding out Romney's flip flopping ideology. the country is tired of nutcase leftist MOOREtards running this government. he just had support of the Tea Party because he was the only stand out candidate a few months ago. but as time progresses people learn about the candidates and that's why Herman Cain is winning. Romney is another Bush to the Tea Party now, Cain will eat Obama alive right off his teleprompter if he wins the nomination.
Jacoby515 4 months ago
@Jacoby515 LOL, so funny and you are so delusional.
lizardgizard2002 4 months ago
@JackLarson9 I agree. They can't say nothing about this man. He's not Jesus Christ but I believe he is a good man. I trust him.
Liberals DESPISE THIS MAN, and that makes me love him even more!
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@JackLarson9 That would be my second choice, but heck yeah!
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
Herman Cain baby!!!!! Best man for the job AND he makes Obama look like an Albino!
chadsem 4 months ago
@chadsem I was going to say Cain makes Obama look like Bryant Gumble, because he already looks like Bryant Gumble
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
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@chadsem And you guys say you are not racist.
lizardgizard2002 4 months ago
Herminator at his best. Cain is able.
xychr0 4 months ago
@xychr0 That would be an awesome bumper sticker "Cain is Able"
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona coin that phrase
Jacoby515 4 months ago
Why is he running? Because he is exactly what this country needs!!
gerstu1 4 months ago
Props to Herman Cain
bhabeney 4 months ago 2
Preach it Herman!
praizequeen 4 months ago
You are sooooooooooooooo right Herman! I love you man!!!
brainards11 4 months ago
PREACH IT BRO!!!
denise007dm 5 months ago
For the first time, I can see how the political spectrum isn't a straight line with the far left on one side and far right on the other. Ron Paul and his LIBERALtarian worshippers have convinced me that it's really a circle; because the point where the LIBERALtarians and LIBERALS meet looks identical. They use the same bully tactics, the same disingenuous arguements and the same pathetic attempts at character assassination. They believe the US caused 911 and Iran isn't a threat to us.
Rhiannon003 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 Hey, don't insult Liberals. Paul wants deep cuts and smaller government, wants lower taxes and is a constitutionalist, etc. He has teabagger support. That is all right wing delusional bullcrap. He is pro life an a racist and that is right wing too. It is right wing nuts that belong to the Alex Jones cult that believe all these nutty conspiracy theories and they are all conservatives. The few sane moderate conservatives are close to liberals not teahadists conservative radicals.
lizardgizard2002 5 months ago
@lizardgizard2002 I think the Republican/Democratic establishment is the big cult. The parties and their followers do pretty much the same things. They only vigorously argue along a narrow band of acceptable political opinion.
Can you show me where in the constitution that the fed govt is given the power to wage a war on drugs? That's a state issue. Can you show me where in the Constitution that allows the govt. to ignore the 4th Amendment as with the UnPatriotic Act?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Personally I don't give a damn. I live in the 21st century not the 18th.
lizardgizard2002 4 months ago
@lizardgizard2002 yeah no wonder why the 21st century is so screwed up.
Jacoby515 4 months ago
@Jacoby515 Only conspiracy theorists and nut cases think the century is screwed up. Sure it looks bad for America because of the self inflicted wounds over the last 20 years of the 20th century, but many countries are doing much better. America is not the world. America is declining and other countries are growing an prospering. Unless someone gets tough on improving education, immigration, lowering spending, increasing taxes, it will continue until the US reaches 3rd world status.
lizardgizard2002 4 months ago
@lizardgizard2002 we are talking about the United States. thanks for explaining what's wrong with this country for me lol
Jacoby515 4 months ago
@lizardgizard2002 Well, I want a bigger shlong, but it ain't gonna happen now, is it? Ron Paul has no chance. You're wasting your time supporting him.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona My god do you need a reading comprehension course. Read my comment again. I o not support any right wing nut cases. Neither Paul or Cain.
lizardgizard2002 4 months ago
@lizardgizard2002 Oh, ok. Good luck with that.
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@Rhiannon003 I think you and the Democrats have more in commmon. They think (like you) that there should be unconstitional fiat currency and a central bank. They think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, can be centrally plan. They reject the free market as you do.
Cain and Romney thought stimulus and TARP were good ideas. They rejected the free market solution. They didn't even see the crash coming because they don't understand the source of it.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 Paul promises to end the Departments of Commerce, Energy, Agriculture, Education, and the Federal Reserve. None of those things are constitutional. The first three are protections, favors, and subsidization of large firms at the expense of consumers and smaller competitors. They are not consistent with free markets. Cain and Romney support these corporatist non-free market departments.
You, Cain, and Romney are big government statists who pretend to be free market.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 Why did GWB expand the welfare state at the fastest pace since LBJ? Why de he also expand the regulatory state at the fastest pace since another Republican in Nixon? Why did he expand the fed. govt. overall at the fastest pace since FDR?
Why did Cain and Romney act as cheerleaders for all of that socialism? Why do they pretend that they are free market.
Why does Cain pretend that he is free market when he was the Pres. of K.C. Federal Reserve--the largest regulator in world?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
I think Ron Paul is nuts, so I don't watch his videos; but I don't think I have seen one Cain video without a bunch of Ron Paul supporters making negative comments. Is this some kind of campaign tactic you kids do? Do you honestly believe that if weren't voting Cain, we'd vote for Ron Paul? How would you like it if you couldn't read the comments in a Paul video without having to scroll through a bunch of garbage negative ads that no one bothers to read anyways?
Rhiannon003 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 We think you guys are delusional. Your man was quoted as saying that the economy was just fine a month before the crisis hit. Ron Paul was warning about it since 2002. He predicted the bankruptcy of Freddie and Fannie and major banks.
The reason that Paul understood is that he is far better read on monetary, banking, and econonomics. He understood that the most important price in an economy, the interest rate, can't be pushed down to zero artificially without a bubble.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34
Whaa Whaa Whaa Whaa Whaa
We don't care what Ron Paul supporters think of Cain. We may have bothered to read something you kids wrote once or twice; but we get it now. You're just as crazy as Paul. We dont' even read it anymore. Please just go away.
Rhiannon003 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 Why won't you answer the questions? Are you a child? Do you lack an understanding of economics and money? Do you deny that Cain supported TARP? Do you deny that he supported so-called Keynesian stimulus--first in 2001 and then in 2008 and 2009. Those are central planning ideas. They are why the economy is so out of whack and the debt is so high.
Why does Cain support unconstitutional federal dept.'s like Energy, Agriculture, Commerce, etc. Why does he support fiat currency?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 I think you are crazy. Cain has already admitted that he isn't going to lower taxes. Can't you read or listen? He said that scrapping the income tax and replace it with a consumption tax must be "REVENUE NEUTRAL." Does that compute? The obvious inference is that he thinks that tax revenue is just right.
Why does Cain support unconstitutional fiat currency. The Congress is given the power to COIN money? How do you COIN paper notes? Where is the Fed authorized in the Constitution?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 Why won't you defend your big government fake conservative with facts? He isn't going to change foreign policy. He isn't going to follow the Founders' advivce to not to create entangling alliances or be looking for dragons to slay abroad.
Why do you think Cane is no non-free market on money, banking, and interest rates. He likes central planning in these areas.
Jefferson and Jackson warned that central banks and paper currency were tools to concentrate wealth and grow govt.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
You call the ads "negative" because he just points out the inconsistencies in your guys record.
Anyone who thinks that in the aftermath of a burst credit bubble of the Federal Reserve's creation (Cain worked at the K.C. branch) that you spend more, borrow more, prop up prices, print more, etc. is by definition insane. Those are the things that caused the problem for crying out loud.
Cain supported TARP. He supported the Fed buying up toxic assets from banks and moving them to tax payers.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@Rhiannon003 Who's we? You said "we" are voting for Cain. You mean big government statists who supported unconstitutional departments like Energy, Commerce, Education, and Agriculture. 3 of the 4 have become corporatist tools of firms looking for protections and subsidies.
Why does Cain support the unconstitutional non-free market central bank. It creates a banking cartel. Why do you and Cain think money and interest rates need to be centrally planned? Are you socialists?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
Thinking about Romney and Cain as our leaders makes me feel all warm and cozy inside. I don't care what any of you guys say, my feelings are real, and I'm a good Conservative man(not perfect of course)
We need the win in 2012 ya'll.
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
could u imagine two black candidates running for PREZ!!!!! go cain
PInk77W1 5 months ago
@PInk77W1 Cain supported TARP. Cain supported "stimulus." Those aren't free market. Cain supported the Federal Reserve creating money out of nothing to buy bank toxic assets that were then transferred to the rest of us.
Cain supports central planning of the most important price in the economy in the interest rate. Cain isn't a free market man. He is a big government corporatist.
What Departments has he promised to end? Waiting.
Ron Paul 2012
joepeeler34 5 months ago
Hasn't Paul dropped out yet?
lizardgizard2002 5 months ago
@ccg8881 So you like big government Cain? Why doesn't he proposed getting rid of unconstitional Dept.'s like Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, and Education? The first 3 are just corporate welfare and protections for large firms along with central planning measures. They aren't consistent with free markets. Why does Cain support them?
Why did Cain support TARP, 1st stimulus? Why did he support the non-free market Federal Reserve buying up toxic assets with money created out of nothing?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
Yes I like this guy, Lets beat Obama with a Cain LOL
jer295 5 months ago
@jer295 LMAO!
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@jer295 Cain is a corporatist, not a free market man. The Federal Reserve and fiat currency are non-free market measures that transfer unearned wealth to finance and the govt.'s favorite interest factions.
Why did Cain support non-free market bailouts like TARP? Why did he support the Federal Reserve's buying of toxic assets that were transferred from Wall Street to Main Street?
Why does Cain support the corporatist arrangement between govt. and business--especially banking?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
No, this isn't about Obama. His statement is purely political. Vote Obama out, and vote him in, and we will have the EXACT SAME PROBLEMS. DEMOCRATS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, REPUBLICANS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM. Party lines are an illusion.
jdman331 5 months ago
@jdman331 but Cain isn't preaching the typical Republican partyline mantra.
punkshaman 5 months ago
@punkshaman He's preaching the typical "vote the incumbent out of office because he's doing a bad job and that will fix all our problems" mantra.
jdman331 5 months ago
@jdman331 No he's not. He's spot on right here. He's just telling it like it is. This man is not an elitist lib, he's a real man. And a patriot, regardless of what SHITHEAD O' Donnell has to say.
I'm proud he is a Republican, just like I'm proud Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican.
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona
Cain supports corporatism, not free markets. Bailouts are theft! Cain supported non-free market TARP. Cain supports the non-free market Federal Reserve system. Cain is opposed to private mintage and gold/silver constitutional money. He likes centrally planned non-free market paper notes.
The most important price in the economy is the interest rate. Cain thinks that it shouldn't be free market. He thinks the Fed can centrally plan it. He's a corporatist, not free market.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Blah blah blah.
ROMNEY/CAIN 2012!
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona RomneyCare. Romney sounds like a Democrat. He supported TARP. That isn't free market. He supports non-free market corporatist arrangements like mandates, subsidies, public-private partnerships, bailouts, unconstitutional government departments, and on and on.
What specific cuts are these people going to make? What specific regulatory bodies will they end
You are just getting taken down the river again. There is a dime's worth of difference between the party establishments
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 TARP, although hard to swallow, I believe is the only exception. There was a surplus, btw. Romney said no to all other bailouts, and I agree. You can't see that he knows what's going on? Who cares what faith he is? The only thing I care is that he understands how the free market, our economy, and out currency work. and he does.
The religious aspect is bullcrap. Who the heck cares? I would vote for Muslim if he was a true Conservative(realistic ELECTABLE you know?)
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona You understand that the Constitution doesn't give the federal government the power to create a central bank? Why do you think Jefferson and Jackson worked so hard for sound money and against central banks?
Why do you think the most important price in an economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned. That's very socialistic. You don't understand or support free markets if you give approval for that. You are not a real conservative. You are a big government statist.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Ok, I understand where you're coming from, and I agree. HOWEVER sir, you need to accept certain "realities" of politics and life in general. Hermain Cain or Romney can't come on here and say close down the Federal Reserve(even though I gaurantee they agree, these are smart men not LIBS). You have to accept a bit of P.C. Don't let that fool you into someone that will LOSE to Obama.
Obama is a Liberal. A flaming Liberal. Isn't that scary to you? Romney is NOT. Peace...
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona Herman Cain doesn't want to close down the Federal Reserve. He was the President of the Kansas City Federal Reserve for crying out loud. The Fed is unconstitutional. It creates price inflation. They debase our dollar. They try to centrally plan the economy. And Cain wants to talk about Obama being a socialist!!! Socialism is central planning. The Fed engages in economic central planning.
NOTHING is more important than the monetary issue. It's one-half of every transaction.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona How is it that Ron Paul saw this crisis coming years in advance. He warned that the Federal Reserve was going to blow up a credit bubble in 2002 and onward when he saw what they were doing with interest rates. Credit comes from savings in a free market, not a central banks' manipulation of the credit money supply. You understand that a central bank is anathema to a free market, right?
Why did GWB and Cheney not see this, either. They are incompetent like Romney and Cain.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 We all knew that(Besides, I love Ron Paul, I'm a Conservative.) I'm not saying Ron Paul was wrong. He is right.
I want to do what's best for our Nation. We can't afford another 4 years of these Liberals in power. It's killing us and it's going to lead to cotastrophe(I don't have spell check).
I'm just saying BE LOGICAL. Romney and Cain have the best chances of whooping this Socialist Lib in 2012.
Btw, I grew up around black people and Obama is a cracker. Peace
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona Cain and Romney aren't any better. The monetary system has to be fixed. Cain or Romney or Perry aren't going to address the Federal Reserve or fiat currency. They think the Fed can centrally plan the most important price in the economy.
The boom/bust cycle comes from central banks. Price inflation is not naturally occurring. It is a product of the central bank and fiat currency. Prices fell 21% from 1788 to 1913 (creation of the Fed.)
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona Ron Paul is the one who will get the most independent votes and some leftists will vote for him because of his positions on war, the Patriot Act, the war on drugs, and civil liberties. They may not agree with him on everything, but they know he isn't in bed with corporations.
Cain and Romney support many corporatist measures. Corporatism is a type of central planning. Govt. gets in bed with business and the consumer is no longer in charge. It centralizes power.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 NO WAY. Ron Paul is the POLAR FREAKING OPPOSITE of a Spendocrat. Just because Liberals are mostly brain-dead, doesn't mean they won't learn about Ron Paul 's other "LOGICAL AND CORRECT" POLICIES. Again, unfortunately, we have to deal with political correctness and politics. That's just a fact of life and I'm sorry for it.
If anything, look at Romney/Cain as the .lesser of two evils. THE FAR LESSER. I'm Mormon, and I bet we'de be friends if we met, fyi.
I agree with you!
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona If you pick the lesser of two evils, you are still picking evil. In some ways establishment drones like Cane and Romney are just as bad as Democrats. I can't tell the difference between Romney and Democrats.
Cane is a corporatist who likes subsidies, public-private partnerships, regulations to create barriers to entry, the Federal Reserve--which serves to protect the big banks, fiat currency, and centrally planned artificially low interest rates--a direct subsidy to banks.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona
You don't seem to know much about the Paulies. They don't think 0bama is any worse than Cain, Romney, Perry or any of the others. All they see is Ron Paul and "neocons". Many of them would like to see 0bama reelected just to punish us for not supporting Ron Paul. ...And are not shy about saying so.
I'm not trying to be harsh or nasty. I just want you to be aware of what you're dealing with here.
qpwillie 5 months ago
@qpwillie They need to recognize that they're wrong, and I will never stop trying to get them on our team. Conservatives are smart and independant people(man or woman, black or white). These are my type of people and I will never give up trying to form a Union with them that can destroy the forces of "evil" (Liberalism, socialism, COMMUNISM-over my dead body) You see?
This isn't a religious competition. This is politics, and we need some sanity in there. Even if it's only "some"
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona If conservatives are smart, then why do they keep voting for Republican establishment drones who don't follow or even understand the Constitution. Gold and silver are to be monies. The Federal Reserve is unconstitutional. The entitlement programs are unconstitutional--though we'll have to slowly phase them out.
Bailouts and TARP are unconstitional. Mandates, subsidies, public-private partnerships, many federal departments are unconstitional. Romney supports these things.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Easy, we have nobody else to choose from! Voting for Bush 2 times is the hardest thing I've ever done. Romney and Cain aren't like that.
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona Really, what's the difference in the rhetoric between Cain, Romney and Bush? Didn't Bush use free market rhetoric to sell corporatist and socialist programs? What SPECIFIC departments have Cain and Romney promised to eliminate?
They both think money, interest rates, and banking can be centrally planned to good effect. You are getting conned....again. The establishment of the GOP does the same damn thing as Democrats. Cain and Romney are establishment drones.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Romney doesn't owe anybody-anything. Corporations donate to his campaign because they feel like he will help the economy. That's a NO-BRAINER
Romney already made his money. He has 4 boys, and 16 grand-children(inevitably there will be many more), so why would he want to leave a bad legacy behind?
Nah, I'm going for Romney/Cain 2012. We'll see what happens, but arguing about the past and making false accusations isn't going to get us anywhere. Peace : )
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona Corporations donate to Romney's campaign because he will help the economy? Alrighty then!! LOL! Could it be that some of those firms hate laissez-faire capitalism because there are no protections? They must constantly compete? There is much class and market share movement up and DOWN.
Many of them prefer corporatist measures like mandates, subusidies, public-private partnerships, regulations designed to create barriers to entry, tax credits that only large firms can access.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34 Just wait and see. Romney is going to shock the world. He is going to cut out the loopholes, and he is going to grow this economy. We're talking jobs in the private sector.
He will work (with The Dems mind you, because unfortunately they are there), to expand domestic drilling. Just wait and see. Big things are a comin...
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona I have seen Romney is action. He increased fees (taxes) and regulations in Mass. Government did not shrink. He isn't going to cut anything.
It's not just the loopholes. It's the public-private partnerships, mandates (Romney loves those!), state-sanctioned cartels (see Federal Reserve and ratings agencies), regulations that create barriers to entry, etc.
Romney isn't opposed to those things. Listen to his rhetoric. Check his record. He might as well be a Democrat.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona I'm sure that Romney means well. It's just that his ideas are bad. Obama means well,too. It's just that his ideas are bad.
Romney is a statist. Cain is a statist. They think the Federal Reserve should attempt to centrally plan the economy.
They think spending is the source of wealth creation which is why they suported the Bush and Obama stimulus measures (at least the first one with Obama). For political reasons they pretend to oppose Keynesian stimulus now.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
I'm sure Romney meant well when signed the Mass. health care mandate (socialist/corporatist hybrid). It hasn't worked out very well. He had already "made his money" when he signed that into law.
The reason that Romney (and Cain if he continues to poll well and win some primaries) gets corporate cash is because he is promising things. Corporatism is a type of central planning. Connected firms and govt are in charge. In a free market the consumer is in charge. Cain and Romney are frauds.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34 Massachusetts has every right to have mandated healthcare. Romney has already said that the first thing he will do is repeal ObamaCare. I believe him.
Nope, Romney hasn't made any promises. I believe him over you, with all due respect. He was a good Governor, and he NEVER broke any promises to his Liberal constituents.
Conservatives seem to forget how Liberal Massachusetts is. Sometimes you have to make compramises in order to do THE RIGHT THING.
Romney/Cain 2012 FTW
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona Under the Constitution there is nothing that restricts the states from doing that. That is true. It's still moronic. It isn't consistent with free markets and liberty.
Romney is a soft socialist. You are getting conned....again. How are those corporatist dept.'s like Energy, Commerce, and Agriculture consistent with free markets?
How is fiat currency, planned interest rates, and a central bank consistent with a free market.
Romney supports corporatism, not free markets.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@BarefootArizona Romney and Cain just use free market rhetoric because they know that is what the some people want to hear. They are never specific. Then their proposals and actions belie their rhetoric. It's the same con that Bush employed.
Why do you impute free market ideas on these people? You imagine that there is some great difference between Obama and establishment R's. They only disgree along a narrow band. It's a joke. It's not a chioce, it's an echo.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@qpwillie One more thing: I'm Mormon and I DESPISE Harry Reid. Most Mormons I know agree...
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@joepeeler34In a perfect world, Ron Paul and his adorable wife are in The White House.We live in an imperfect world. You may not agree with Romney's faith, but know that he is true to his faith.
And I know his faith teaches self-reliance. It teaches thriftiness. It teaches that we have freewill.I wish Romney wasnt Mormon because it seems to be the only thing(besides the misunderstanding of his STATE healthcare bill)He is not a gosh darn socialist.I would be the last to support him if he were
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona I don't care about Romney's faith. I am an atheist. It's irrelevant to me. Why would any sane person care about whether he is Mormon?
I care about ideas. Romney is a statist. Romney thinks the U.S. should police the world. Romney thinks the Federal Reserve should centrally plan the economy. Romney supports all kinds of unconstitutional measures.
Romney might has well call himself a progressive.
Romney supports fiat currency. Romney supports public-private partnerships.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona Romney supports the unconstitutional war on drugs. That is a state and local matter. I personally think people who think prohibition works need to check reality.
Romney support TARP. Romney support stimulus. Romney laughed at Ron Paul when Paul told him that a housing bubble had been blown up and the economy was already in recession. It was just that establishment drones like Romney don't understand the business cycle because he hasn't read enough of economics.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@jdman331
You're so far off the mark, it's pitiful. Herman Cain knows that this is not just another bad president. 0bama is not doing a bad job the way he sees it. He's doing exactly what he set out to do and Mr. Cain knows it just like the rest of us know it. In fact, Mr. Cain has stated that he's aware of it.
qpwillie 5 months ago
@qpwillie Cain supported TARP. Cain supported the original stimulus. Cain supported the non-free market Federal Reserve system. Cain supports unconsitutional non-free market fiat paper currency. Cain supported non-free market bailouts.
Cain was quoted as late as the summer of 2008 saying the housing market and economy were just fine.
Ron Paul was warning consistently from 2002 onward that the Federal Reserve and govt. subsidies were blowing up a housing bubble. Cain is incompetent.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34
Look, I don't have time to argue with a bunch of glarry eyed Paulies. You will attack anybody who is not Ron Paul. ...And I mean ANYBODY. That's one of the reasons most people won't vote for him.
qpwillie 5 months ago
@qpwillie I like Gary Johnson.
You won't argue because you are a big government statist who doesn't understand monetary history, economics, or the Constituion's instuctions on monetary issues.
Why do you think the most important price in the economy--the interest rate--should be managed by the Federal Reserve?
I think fake neo-cons (not real conservatives) are the ones who are "glazed"-eyed. Nobody wants your wars.
Cain didn't see housing bubble. Paul did. Cain=incompetent
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34
I won't argue because I would be lowering myself to the level of a brainwashed cult follower.
qpwillie 5 months ago
@qpwillie You can't argue. I think Cain has a cult of neo-con statists who think they are voting for a constitutionalists and free market man.
Why do you think you support free markets while supporting a Federal Reserve/fiat currency system? Why do you think a product like money has to be centrally planned? Why do you think the most important price in an economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned.
Why didn't the economically illiterate Cain see housing bubble coming in 2008?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Cain is a success in business. You have no such success but whine and complain. Who, therefore should people listen to? Who is economically illiterate, a successful business man or a bumbling follower of the Paul cult who is stuck in the 18th century?
lizardgizard2002 5 months ago
@qpwillie I think you are clearly a brainwashed Republican party hack? You don't see that the establishments of both parties do the same things.
Bush expanded the govt. the fastest since Roosevelt. He expanded the welfare state faster than anyone since LBJ. He expanded the regulatory state faster than anyone since anther R in Nixon
Why did Cain say that the economy and housing sector were just fine in the summer of 2008. 6-years earlier Ron Paul was warning about the what the Fed was doing
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@qpwillie Why does your guy not stand up for the Constitution. The Constitution says that Congress shall COIN money. How do you COIN paper notes. It refers to Standards of Weights and Measures. How are "Weights and Measures" germane to paper notes? It's referring to the weight of the precious metal and fineness of it.
The dollar was defines as 371 1/4 grains of fine silver. The Coinage Act of 1792 codified this.
Jefferson and Jackson warned about central banks and fiat paper notes.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@punkshaman Yes, he is. Interventionism abroad and involvement in social issues. He says he wants to get rid of the income tax but replace it with a "revenue neutral" consumption tax. The inference being that the tax levels are just fine. It's just a matter of how it is done. That sounds like a big govt. statist.
Ron Paul says he will eliminate Dept.'s of Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, and Education. The first three are corporate slush funds. Cain likes unconstitutional dept.'s.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@punkshaman Also, Cain doesn't want to challenge the curreny unconsitutional Federal Reserve/fiat currency system. The Congress is to COIN money, not the Federal Reserve print worthless paper notes. Also, private mintage used to be common before govt. banned it.
Cain was at the K.C. Federal Reserve. It's the most powerful regulator in the world. And Cain wants to talk about regulations? Ha! Interest rates should be free market, not centrally planned.
Cain is a statist.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
Cain the man....and he actually answers questiongs put to him!! unlike Obumbles.
uzimodem 5 months ago
YES! THAT THE WAY YOU DO IT! ATTACK OBAMA! All this talk on immigration, Romneycare, Gay soldiers, Gardasil, capital punishment are nothing but distractions. OBAMA IS THE PROBLEM! DEMOCRATS ARE THE PROBLEM! When they lose elections THINGS WILL GET BETTER!
megamaniac76 5 months ago
@megamaniac76 The Republican party isn't any better in action. They both support the unconstitutiona, non-free market Federal Reserve/fiat currency monetary system? Neither is consistent with free markets.
Private mintage used to be common until it was banned by govt. to shore up its money monopoly in the 1860's. The govt's money is to be gold and silver, but private minters can compete.
Why did Cain support socialist solutions to the credit bubble bursting?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
Am I weird for watching this 3 times?
BarefootArizona 5 months ago 13
@BarefootArizona
I'm sure I'll watch it several times today. The man is energizing and inspiring.
qpwillie 5 months ago
@qpwillie He is a big government statist. Why does he support a "revenue neutral" replacement for the income tax? That means he thinks tax levels are about right.
Why does Cain support non-free market bailouts like TARP? Why did he support non-free market stimulus?
Why does he support unconstitutional fiat paper currency? Why does he support a central bank that isn't consitutional? Why does he speak about deregulation when he worked for the FED, the most powerful regulator in the world?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@BarefootArizona Nope , you sure are not weird for watching this three times...Herman Cain seems to be one of the few persons still making sense in this county any more.
toogawn 4 months ago
@toogawn I'm a Mitt Romney supporter, but I wouldn't mind seeing Cain get the nod. I really wouldn't Perry either. I REALLY wouldn't mind seeing a Romney/Cain ticket.
BarefootArizona 4 months ago
Folks, I do believe with this energetic and brilliant man as V.P., and Romney as our Presidential candidate, we will utterly destroy Obama in 2012.
That's if you want to win. Otherwise, pick any other candidate.
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
The federal reserve, the CIA, and the Mossad make the rules and the roles...
whoobie2008 5 months ago
BEWARE THE TIES OF THE ZIONIST BANKERS...
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qpwillie 5 months ago
Direct responses to direct answers... How is this non-politician running for president?
dustsmoke 5 months ago 7
@dustsmoke its becoming more commo0n among the Republican Party. People with passion and real world experience are becoming more popular than the empty suits with money.
punkshaman 5 months ago
@punkshaman A govt is not a business. Why did Cain support TARP? Why did he riducule real free market people who wanted to let debt be liquidated, prices fall, and labor and capital be reallocated in the wake of the Federal Reserve-created bubble? Why did he support non-free market bailouts? Why does he support unconstitutional Federal Reserve and fiat currency? Why does he think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned by the Federal Reserve?
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@dustsmoke He's very much a politician. He says he will cut spending, but where? Will he cut unconsitutional Dept's like Commerce, Agriculture, Energy, and Education. Does he tell agribusinesses that subsidies are socialism. Ron Paul does.
Why did non-free market Cain support TARP and stimulus? Why does he support socialist Keynesian monetary and stimulus measures? Why does he support the unconstitional Federal Reserve/fiat currency system? Neither are consistent with free markets.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 Well dang, if he supports all that he is smarter than I thought.
lizardgizard2002 5 months ago
@joepeeler34 cut spending on solyndra
PInk77W1 5 months ago
@PInk77W1 Sure, but that is a drop in the bucket.
Cain supported a 700 billion dollar TARP program. That's not free market. He supported the Federal Reserve buying up bad debt of banks and putting them on the tax payers' books. That's not free market.
Cain didn't see the housing collapse coming. Ron Paul did many years in advance.
Cain supports unconstitutional fiat currency and the Federal Reserve. Jefferson warned us about fiat paper notes and central banks. So did Jackson.
joepeeler34 5 months ago
@dustsmoke Mitt Romney has been answering with direct answers as well. Give credit where credit is due. Mitt Romney and Hermain Cain are a perfect ticket.
Let;s do this man
BarefootArizona 5 months ago
Occupy White House 2012.
inetbf 5 months ago
Amen!
RETSZTIRF 5 months ago
AMEN!!!!
drammycoke 5 months ago
Can I get an AMEN?
GrandFunker 5 months ago
I may not agree with everything this man stands for, but he has more commons sense than those fools living in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave right now.
DirtyDiaperNews 5 months ago
I have been in his camp from day one & this one of the reasons why!
iamacleverone 5 months ago
A strong voice and soon to be our strong leader!
dmcindc 5 months ago