@Octoberfurst: How can you or Durban compare how Nazi's or Pol Pot or the Japanese to how we interagate our prisoners. Gee lets start with how the talaban do things, oh yeah they saw off the heads of their enemies. Oh gee thats what we do, not. Germans and the Vietnamese use to electicute their prisoners genetalia oh gee thats what we do, not. Gee lying a person on their back while putting a rag over their face and pouring water to give them the impression their drowning while doing no harm.
I would have RESIGNED my commision,as soon as hoax and change was elected!As for this PIG speaking,if I was in the same room as him,I would KICK HIS TRAITEROUS ASS all over the senate floor,WAKE UP PEOPLE,it's ASSHOLES like this that make laws for you , THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Durbin was simply speaking the truth. What we did to those prisoners WAS like what Nazi's did to their prisoners. And he is not saying that all the troops were like Nazis. He was simply saying that the ones that did the torturing were like Nazi's. I know it is hard for some people to wrap their little brains around that fact but it is true. Durbin spoke the truth and tough shit if you can't handle it! Did you actually LISTEN to what he was saying?
Ok Durbin is a tipacal piece of shit....but jeez when are you people gonna wake up and realize that 9-11 was an inside job, designed to keep us in never ending wars for the industrial military complex, as the constitution is destroyed, civil liberties taken away, a police state created, and you go along with it by believing the lies. Innocent people are being punished as the real terrorists roam free. And most of you support it. I guess the NWO wins, because most refuse to wake and stand!!!
Try Turning off CNN FOX or whatever government controlled news station you get your popular belief from before you make a stupid comment such as the ones I've read. People are going off topic HELLO you think this is as small as gaining some political ground, your all bashing this guy for speaking the truth you know your either ignorant or oblivious when the world and now apparently people in your own government speak out against the US and you all act like its an outrageous statement. BAAH SHEEP
Dumbazzed neo clowns, as usual, saying Durbin called ALL troops out comparing them to nazi's etc. IT was how the guards, and others in charge of prisoners treated them inhumanely.
Get a life and quit lying so much. It's the non stop lying that keeps you morons on the right losing all the time now.
Senator Durbin is talking about Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse. It will never be forgotten and you idiots will never be able to take his words out of context.
Ah, the face of the enemy within. Take a good look at that S.O.B. and remember his breed: They forsake our Country for their Party. Scum of the earth.
Durbin is a Nazi that should be tried for treason.
Such comments only show hatred for the country that provides his livelihood. Perhaps live would be better for you in North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan? You certainly do not deserve to be a US lawmaker. Bum.
Durbin...America's biggest traitor to the country.
What a disgusting elected official he is.What is wrong with you people in Illinois? Let's hope Chicago is spared their own 9-11.You can thank Dick and his pals on the LEFT,the ACLU who gut the Patriot Act when it comes to Lakeshore Drive and Michigan Avenue.
Some of these comments prove that liberals are all about "feels good" and completely ignore the "does good" way of working with each other and those around the planet. They have been around since the Revolutionary war; hell, they've been around longer than that, do you think they know anything about the French Revolution? Probably not, but that guillotine came down on many necks because someone pointed them out as, "not a good citizen." Doesn't that sound familiar -- and scary!
Read Tom Paine, learn something about the French Revolution and those that were at the very front of that force, that is %100 against what you have to say.
Again, you don't adress the fact that Durbin was talking about the policies of the POTUS and Rummy's warped Pentagon, yet continue to spread the lie that it was an attack on "da troops". That's how it goes; you're caught in your mess, so you switch the subject. Retards.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
This isn't a meaningful debate.
When people somehow misconstrue that Durbin was actually talking about the policies of the POTUS and the Pentagon and not "Da Troops", there's no way to have a debate. That's why I call you retarded.
If Lincoln hadn't been re-elected, the north would have made peace, they wouldn't have sought a winning outcome. They just wanted the war to end. Some say they don't know what would have happened, but you'd have to be one very large ostrich with your head in the sand and one very big butt in the air. Slavery would have continued and new states would have been able to decide the slavery issue on their own.
I would love it if the people who hate GW, and they do it so intently, learned history. "the American people want an end to the war, too many have died, it has cost too much, too many have dies, the peace democrats in congress are trying to sue for peace" Unfortunately, this isn't now, it was 1864 and it was the Civil war, not OIF.
I agree, but one would think that if your ideas matched or encouraged the terrorists, you'd take a step back and review. Just one basic question, what is it that I am saying or doing that fits in with the terrorists. But they never do. Amazing, isn't it.
The new constitutuents of the Demoncrats: The Islamist Jihadists. Everytime the Demoncrats push for surrender and America's defeat, (just like what they're currently doing in Congress), The islamists websites are all praises and happy that the Deoncrats are on their side.
tacticomp, don't you know that if you can't make a rational point to support your side, you resort to name calling. That way they never have to justify their point of view. That can very hard for them, after all they "develop" their view through 10 sec sound bites!
Absolutely, Spyder--It doesn't take intelligence to be a liberal, all you need is emotion. And these loonies are the George Soros surrogates (the money bag for Move-on, Daily Kos, Media Matters, and all the leftwing causes and blogs, permeating our society) And the liberal diploma mills are churning these robots out by the thousands.
So when he says, if i read this report to you, you'd like it was from three of the worse dictators of the 20th century. So, who was he comparing to those dictators; I know it was their soldiers who actually commited the atrocities and ours for doing the same thing. Get it?
I don't know what your worldviews are--but declaring people are retarded across the board, who are practicing their 1st amendment rights on this blog, without enumerating a justifiable point, is more retarded that the people you're ostracising, Volumptious. BTW did you mean 'voluptuous'?
Here's a good strategy, Volumptuous. (somehow this name strikes me as the new idiom or slang for 'FAT'-- but I digress) Why don't you join in and engage in a meaningful debate with us, so we could actually see who's retarded.
As an Illinoisian and parent of a deployed soldier, this guy SUCKS!!! And what was his "apology" Sorry if "YOU" took offense. What??? I don't get anyone who still supports him. So much for "I support the troops just not the war" really, tell me what great support you put behind the troops over this one
What??? Ge just said the report made out troops look like three of the worse dictators of the 20th Century. What did you hear? My child was there and let me tell you, I know and raised her, she is definitely NOT, a nazi, stalinist or khmer rouge type soldier. In fact she is 180 degrees in the opposite direction, as are all of our troops!!!
A choice between a back-stabber and the deceitful executive branch of Bush...no contest! you are typical of the immoral or gullible minority still blindly adoring this joke of a president.hhahahha
> Dick Durbin is a back stabber! What a letdown to
> the troops.
The people who essentially lost the war in Iraq by painting the entire US armed forces as criminals to the Iraqi people have let not just the entire US down, but have seriously damaged our moral reputation, and have endangered the lives of every active duty serviceman in a warzone.
he's just saying fact. these very small number of U.S. troops are as bad as Nazis. you saw the pics, don't defend Evil. FUCK those troops, God Bless 99.7% of them
So you're proud to support someone who bashes our military. Typical liberals. The only soldiers you ever support are the phony soldiers like Jesse MacBeth.
Reason number 1,201,307 why I am a Republican. We don't compare our Men and Women of the Armed Forces to Nazis. Please, I beg you all. This kind of crap is what you never see on the news because it depicts the true nature of most liberals. Don't buy the media bias, look at facts besides polls, and vote Republican.
Don't even start your kind just loves to take a blind eye at these things and think America's perfect and never wrong and always fighting evil with pure goodness, that's not the truth and you people know it. American soldiers,not all of them don't get me wrong, but yes some do, commit horrible crimes on innocent civillians and prisoners. how about just a month ago when that group of soldiers RAPED AND KILLED a young girl and her family?
Hey back up, you are looking like the stupid lefties, they don't understand the arguement so they name call. We on the right try never to sink to their level.
Tacticomp forgot 1 little error by his trusted republican government, that they LIED about weapons of mass destruction as a scapegoat in order to overthrow saddam. Good cause, terrible consequences my subjective little right-wingers...
You have to look up the definition of lying, Bush didn't lie, he and EVERY intellingent agencies across the globe believed the same thing. Or was GW, so smart that he was able to trick Bill and Hillary, the French, Germans, Russians, and Chinese to say that Iraq had WMD's. Bush is so smart, isn't he. You can't have it both ways, he's the smarted or the dumbest; which one?
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! (the reason for the season). These includes you secularist liberals who seem to hate Christmas and the thought of having a God who created you. ...may God Bless you too!
Let's start with you. Let's see if you practice what you preach.
There are many young men and women who volunteered to serve our country, sacrificing their lives so you can say stupid things in a blog like this. Is it right for a US Senator to compare these fine American soldiers to Nazis, Stalin, Hitler, Polpot or any other oppressive regimes or despots?
What a sweeping, ignorant, condenscending statement. And without any data to back it up! Rednecks or not, it doesn't hide the fact, that they volunteered and willing to face the ultimate sacrifice to keep your sorry ass free. They are the line in the sand that's keeping you from being beheaded by Muslim fanatics.
I respect what these patriots are doing for my country and I take any insulting remarks that denigrate their sacrifices. I have relatives and friends who are currently serving the Military. Most of them are professionals like dentists, accountants, commercial pilots, etc., far cry from being a redneck. They left cushy jobs to do the right thing for the America.
Hey taticomp, I can tell your a nationalist or republican, so they're are 2 types of republican sterreotypes:
1.) The faschist, retarded hillbilly hicks who believe in their *native soil* and have strong right-wing values about EVERYTHING
2.) The corrupt, *well educated* wastes of space who sip their champagne whilst discussing why violent videogames should be banned becuase he has very little else to do with his time.
Neither, I'm an (legal)immgrant from a third world country, where a knock on the door at night could either mean an arrest, incarceration, torture, or even death. I fled to America, the land of the free, home of the brave, and embraced freedom like my life depends on it. And it does. I would rather die that live in oppression. That's why i'm passionate in defending this country against those who wants to destroy it.
"Been there done that" I know what Socialism/Marxism or Maoism are all about. I can't tell you the details, but I got to know those ideologies first hand, in my youth. The State runs every aspect of your life--culturally, economically and Socially.
Contrary to its doctrine, that "power comes from the masses" is a myth. The party members holds the true power. Socialism is a failure like the USSR
Maoism is a farce, that everybody should be a peasant and not progress as individuals so I completely agree with you there. For the record I don't believe in complete socialism (since I do respect many liberal and conservative issues)just democratic socialism. Being british the party for that is the Labour party, but they're a fucking disgrace in this country and no longer have ANY socialist values (except health care is no longer privatised but the quality is way worse).
Just like the socialist patterned, single payer, Canadian "health care" system. You have to wait for months, perhaps a year, for an MRI or Catscan. Care quality is non existent, because you get paid the same, so it discourages competition.
Like it or not, it's a business too. And in the economic marketplace, competition is the driving force to quality service or better products that attracts the clientele.
Yes It Is a business but it morally shouldn't be. I mean c'mon, should the government really have the right to put a price on peoples health? The only reason the NHS (and Labour) is failing is because they no longer have a sense of idealogy and don't appeal to the working-class. Currently in my eyes they're nothing to me anymore, i wasted a vote.
FOr the record, americans hate canadians, go figure xD
It's Mutual, Canadians started hating us before they even coddled the cowards who ran to Canada to avoid the draft.
For an individual who spent the better part of 10 years of his/her life in school, plus internship at different hospitals is not really for moral reasons.
To a handful, it might be the case, but many, many doctors and health care professionals are there strictly for economic reasons--I know, I have several relatives who are doctors and nurses.
Republicans aren't fascist. They don't blame Jews for everything, make excuses for radical Islam, support rape hoaxes and rap music, are against abortion, support American soldiers and the Second Amendment, and don't defend racist quota systems.
Isn't it interesting how Osama's gang and liberals have so much in common? Al Qaeda and liberals BOTH: - hate president Bush - want to see the U.S. pull out of Iraq immediatly - want the patriot act revoked - want Gitmo detainees released - oppose torture when it can save U.S. lives - are against NSA wiretaps - despise Christians - are against military tribunals for pow's - want a Democratic presidency and congress ...etc, etc, etc.
How many intercepts of enemy plans and schemes, or funding tactics, that have been the catalyst in stopping the Islamo Fascists cells from attacking the US again?, because of our effective intelligence programs that looks for enemy call patterns?
You might not be a Demoncrat or AL Qaida, but If you are against these strategy that could save American lives, then you clearly are on their side--and that's treasonous.
Then think about it from the terrorists point of view:
They're constantly told every day their type are suspected of being the most murderous, devious and evil people in the world strictly of their belief. No wonder they seek revenge.
Here's the problem with leftwing nutjobs like 'badflex', they're ill-informed and clueless of serious political issues. They just hear 15 sec. soundbites of the liberal media and demoncratic pundits and presto!.. they have an opinion!
Radical Islamists blogs says so. before and after the elections, they supported the 'defeat' of Bush and celebrated the (temporary) victory of the Demoncrats--Because, as 'svector' brilliantly assessed the Demoncrats' "agendas" favor the enemy politically.
Ok i'll put it this way, I personally hate the party system. I think every politician should all be completely independant and not cram their 'ajendas' down the publics throats. I'm more of a socialist and believe in independance and respect some liberal and conservative issues, so dont call me a left-wing nutjob when you clearly don't know me.
You just admitted that you're a 'Socialist'. And who pushed the Socialism ideology? Marx? Engels? Lenin? Everyone knows they're Leftists. Leftist are now hiding under the term 'progressives'. But no matter what labels they hide from, they're still leftwing nut jobs like you. You just epitomized it by defending the terrorists (above) and feeling their pain' con't..
But if my country is in danger of being attacked again, and we are, by those whose primary existence is the annihilation of Americans, I might just be as 'rightwing' as the next patriot and as courageous as the American soldier.
You've just demonstrated your fear, it's funny how assholes like you can go off and begin to accuse anybody who makes a loud noise as being a terorist. Your ridicilious, the lot of you xD
Get back to reading Tom Clancy novels and fantasising about saving the world from a nuclear holocaust under your precious flag <_<.
You just epitomized it by 'taking the terrorists perspective' and 'feeling their pain', defending their killing sprees because these islamoFascists were 'hurt' for being called 'murderous and evil' that made them 'vengeful'. Now that psychobabble alone is a clear sign of a leftwing nut job who can't recognize evil for what it is.
What the hell are you doing here!? Is this your new found opinion on everybody on this board? that they're 'idiots'? jeezus you purely don't care about any of these issues so piss off for the sake of EVERYBODY here with a decent opinion: Myself,svector and tacticomp. I disagree with them both but at least they've posted something worth reading!
Hey Finlander, Why don't you join your country's struggle to win back your country from the Muslim's takeover before these Radical Islamo-Fascists cut your head off.
What's with all your fucking hatread!? just becuase somebody doesn't agree with your terms you think it's ok to start breathing down their necks liek the right-wing faschist that you are!! Get back to 'supporting your troops' in your 'war of terror'!
It's called 'conviction' driven by my core beliefs in God & Country and the American Values of Freedom and Liberty. I am willing to defend them, whether in the battlefield or leftwing drivel in these blogs. So far, I have done a good job of both.
You said your defending your convictions, so what am I guilty of? Having an opinion? NOT agreeing with the governments every move like you? or is it much deeper...how about the brands of clothes I wear?
If it's the right thing to do, like fighting the Muslim Fanatics who wants to do us harm, or your right to be stupid, I will support the government. But if they want to take my Freedom away, then I will be the first one to go to the hills.
I never said anything about muslim fanatics or extremists, I said what am I guilty of? You've just attempted to define what the right thing is to do and in my opinion not said very much other than you love the great democratic constitution of the american government that is apparantly faultless. Im not being stupid, im asking a question, so what am I personally guilty of in your eyes??
First of all, you're an admitted 'Socialist'. To many thinkers (like moi), the socialism ideology experiment is a dismal failure, it will never work, it has been tried many times and it failed all the time. The Soviet empire was a great example. Other European socialism experiments like France, Netherlands is now collapsing. (do your research on that one). con't
No government system is 'faultless'-- but the nearest system that could advance and provide the universal human desire for individual freedom and liberty, or economic prosperity is the democratic republic system of government such as the United States. (that explains why millions of people wants to immigrate here. con't...
No government system is 'faultless'-- You simply said 'DEMOCRATS WILL GET US KILLED!' but many also agreed with the war. Im not american and dont know the complex tapestry but the overall majority agreed with the republicans.
Secondly, your psychobable on taking the "terrorists point of view" (!?) as if you want to 'feel their pain' and sympathize and justify their vengeful murderous ways, is a red flag to me, that you are clueless on the severity of the grave danger we are facing as a civilization. con't..
WEll is it illegal to think from a different perspective? I was simply putting myself in their shoes and wondering why they want to kill us infidels in the first place. I NEVER said I agreed with them and I NEVER said I was a sympathier to their horiffic acts (btw i was there during the 7/7/05 attacks in london). I have a few muslim friends who have stated that the quran doesn't preach hate but for defence. You can't simply say MUST! KILL! DESTORY! or your just as bad as them.
These Radical islamo fascists are driven by a religious ideology that wants to eliminate those who will not agree with them. They love death than life that they can kill without remorse--and 'taking their perspective' is sheer gobbledygook stupidity andcertainly will not appease them.
cont. Then the Soviet Union falls so congress realises, wait, we've built tunnells and set up murderous regimes in neighbouring countries for the sake to stop the spread of 'world communism'. You must not forget that there was no invasion of countries like Chile and Iraq during the cold war simply because their regimes in place were either supported by the US government or weren't under a communist idealogy.
Wait, it's your very same government that got your country and its allies into this very mess in the first place we're in now, creating their own secret dictatorship and alligning with ruthless murderers to simply stop the 'spread of communism' during the cold war. Then the Soviet Union
Yeah, it's all America's 'fault' and Stalin's, Marx's, Engels', Lenin's, Mao's, Polpot's, Ho's, Castro's, Ortega's communists regimes are not to be blamed for the millions kiled in the name of Communism.
Do some research and you'll see that america (during the cold war period) helped set up many regimes of terror comparable to that of the communists in order to stop the spread of communism.
Being a political junkie, I do know the history of death squads set up by banana republics. I even had first hand experiences with these goons. However, atrocities started from the communists side as a form of intimidation on the masses and the DS was formed to counter these killings. You've got to draw the line and defend society--sadly, unfortunately, it creates a cycle.
You only see one side as bad but doesn't see the other , because of your socialist bias.
You've just basically repeated what I said then stuffed that i'm bias at the end. Growing up in a socialist background isn't going to change my overall opinion but I do have respect for the other ideals (liberalism and conservatism) to the point where i can no longer be classed as a hardcore socialist (which im not anyway).
And The Soviets extensively 'exported' their 'socialist revolutions' (and their 'gulags') throughout the globe. You expect the freedom loving countries of the world to sit around and do nothing?
I'm so glad that communisism got defeated and collapsed on its own weight. Long Live Freedom!
I see both sides as being bad, being the ones backed by the US or not. I was simply pointing out that I wasn't blaiming the US government for Engles, Marx etc. but for their participation in building up those death squads. The DS were also just a case of blood must attone for blood, seeing as you were involved with them personally i wont get involved in discussing them.
I never blamed america in general that would just be stupid, and communism IS a murderous reign but when you say 'islamofaschists' supporting saddam, al quaeda and such are destroying this country it was america who supported them in the first place all for the sake to destory the whole cocept of 'communism'
And you probably see me as a communist, WRONG! im just using sheer fact to build up that everybody was having a shit time partly because of america's shit descision making.
This is so "Clintonesque", so typical of a leftist liberal--speaking on both sides of the mouth, 'triangulating' with no conviction and full of contradiction.
You just asserted above that America was "responsible for all the mess" but now you're denying it! I guess it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is, huh!
"True to your roots"? who are fooling? Your socialist admittance and your anti American stance makes you unrecognizable as a true 'American'. You seem to have sided with our enemies with your vile rhetoric about your country. "When badfex lies, truth certainly dies"
When Clinton was lying, blissfully sidetracked and getting 'smoked' by Lewinsky, Osama meanwhile, was scheming and planning that eventually killed 3,000 Americans.
Ok your just being an asshole now, first of all i dont live in america i live in the UK, secondly I dont like to think a high pitched noise is suspect of being a terrorist attack like you obviously do. Finally, i'm not anti-amercian, i'm anti right ring nutjob who thinks fear is the perfect sign to go on. Y'know we had a terrorist attack too, your not the only ones involved in this despite thinking you are!!!
The height of arrogance! What makes you an 'expert' on American internal affairs? You live in a cocoon existence--not realizing the consequential times we, as a civilization is facing. This is not about fear alone. We had witness an enemy who can kill innocent people, even their own kind, without remorse. Your Neville Chamberlain approach shows your ignorance of the bitter lessons of history.
And Churchill was any better!? BOTH were Conservatives, haters of the working class and full of rich snobs, not different from the core republicans really. Anyway this isn't about my past, times have dramaticaly changed in the last 60 years! lessons have been learnt but america's dramatic intrusions are comparable of that of nazi's. Also I never said I was an 'expert', I have more of a life than sitting here chatting to wastes of space like yourslef who is a claimed 'political junkie'.
You got that right! 60 years had 'dramatically changed' the ingrates America had saved from the clutches of Fascism. Now they see us as the villain of the world, and blames us for all it's ills. INGRATES!
It's that kind of attitude that provokes that hatred! What do you propose the rest of the world does eh? bows down to your grand nation? work only for your gain? We ALL did our fare share in WW2 (or those that were alive) and we were bombed to hell! Oh getting back to learning lessons, have you learnt from vietnam? Becuase by the looks of things the War on terror is possibly going to last as long.
Precisely! Watson! nice deduction. We definitely should learn the lessons of Vietnam by: NOT RETREATING! and avoid the repeat of the 'killing fields' aftermath that resulted in the vacuum. History 101: learn from the mistakes of history and never repeat it!
Please shut up, these cheap attempts to make me look stupid basing your answers on 'ideaology' and 'learning past mistakes' are just pathetic, predictable and downright nerdy.
Just give up now, you had to reduce yourself to admitting to be an immigrant who escaped AMERICAS's death squads on those banana republics, so your whole belief is based on tone that was trying to kill you! xD. Like I said, your friends at the Tom Clancy book club await!
No thanks, Tom clancy is a militant dick who fantasises about his precious american army saving the world from nuclear holocaust, you should rub your fat cocks together some day and help him write another shitty novel...
Your Neville Chamberlain was mainly responsible for that fiasco. Instead of seeing Adolf for what he is, as a menacing threat to the region and the world, (sounds familiar?) and made extensive defense preparations. Chamby appeased Hitler to the hilt. (pun intended) And you Brits were taken to the cleaners unprepared, that you have to beg for armaments (lend lease program) from us, generous Americans.
Yah they wanted to go to war but after we started taking casualties they wanted to cut and run. Our grandfather's generation made over 100 times the sacrifice we have made thus far. Both wars on foriegn soil and both so very important. The only difference is that the liberal wackos of today have become complete fucking pussies. Don't give me that Kerry is a war hero bullshit. Read the video about his first purple heart and you will find that Kerry didn't deserve it.
I wouldn't give a shit if kerry stopped a tank with his own hands. I dont particuarly like Democrats and i despise Republicans, at least the Democrats have some sort of. Seeing as Bush has turned america into a teror-obsessed sespool what other choice is there?
You're Demented, Deranged Hatred for Bush (DD4H syndrome) makes you look stupid. Here's your (stupid) sign. Our survival as a civilization is at stake from those who wants to annihilate and shove their warped medieval religion on us. And the Demoncrats are playing partisan politics with our lives, with no alternative plan for national security except to cut and run. Sacrificing our collective asses just so they can bring down the President.
Dont fucking lecture me, you were the one starting to preach your own brand of hatred towards me, your the one who decided to use this fucking scapegoat of 'survival as a civilization' in an attempt to make somebody you don't know look stupid. Your nothing but a right wing loser who thinks i'm derranged because I believe Bush has turned your country into a terror obsessed sespool. So many would agree with me too, get back to your tom clancy book club.
*some sort of self-respect, even after clinton (btw that was a private affair leaked to the world because they weren't allowed into north korea and were too scared to enter chetchnya, bosnia and such)
"Private Affair" when a Demoncrat is involved in sleazy affairs--but when a Republican sends inappropiate emails to Pages, why, it's 'despicable'!, it's 'outrageous'! and get toasted by the liberal media. HYPOCRITES!
Yeah, that e-mail could have been ANYTHING! an affair isn't exactly going to breach any government conduct or put the publics lives at risk is it now?
Oh and which caused the most uproar? The Democrats obviously!! So that the Republicans could use this for their own political gain!! HYPOCRITES!!
@Octoberfurst: How can you or Durban compare how Nazi's or Pol Pot or the Japanese to how we interagate our prisoners. Gee lets start with how the talaban do things, oh yeah they saw off the heads of their enemies. Oh gee thats what we do, not. Germans and the Vietnamese use to electicute their prisoners genetalia oh gee thats what we do, not. Gee lying a person on their back while putting a rag over their face and pouring water to give them the impression their drowning while doing no harm.
drstonesr 1 year ago
dick durbin is a real jerk
bmoecardinals 1 year ago
I would have RESIGNED my commision,as soon as hoax and change was elected!As for this PIG speaking,if I was in the same room as him,I would KICK HIS TRAITEROUS ASS all over the senate floor,WAKE UP PEOPLE,it's ASSHOLES like this that make laws for you , THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
f01863 2 years ago
Durbin was simply speaking the truth. What we did to those prisoners WAS like what Nazi's did to their prisoners. And he is not saying that all the troops were like Nazis. He was simply saying that the ones that did the torturing were like Nazi's. I know it is hard for some people to wrap their little brains around that fact but it is true. Durbin spoke the truth and tough shit if you can't handle it! Did you actually LISTEN to what he was saying?
Octoberfurst 2 years ago
dick durbin is a nasty liberal, expel him now
bmoecardinals 2 years ago 2
Ok Durbin is a tipacal piece of shit....but jeez when are you people gonna wake up and realize that 9-11 was an inside job, designed to keep us in never ending wars for the industrial military complex, as the constitution is destroyed, civil liberties taken away, a police state created, and you go along with it by believing the lies. Innocent people are being punished as the real terrorists roam free. And most of you support it. I guess the NWO wins, because most refuse to wake and stand!!!
RogueWOLFsnipeR 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
He was 100% correct. So many people can't deal with the truth.
Zaxxen69 2 years ago
What a Fkg Dumb Azz.
Behead them all now.
Get them to their virgins as they demand.
Get this Country as Communist as quick as possible.
Copy Russia in every detail.
No purpose for Free Speech, or Truth.
Put the Berlin wall back up.
Passport only access State to State.
What the Fk we waiting For?
Philscbx 2 years ago
I have no problem what we do to terrorists in gitmo. They deserved it.
kcimb 2 years ago 5
Try Turning off CNN FOX or whatever government controlled news station you get your popular belief from before you make a stupid comment such as the ones I've read. People are going off topic HELLO you think this is as small as gaining some political ground, your all bashing this guy for speaking the truth you know your either ignorant or oblivious when the world and now apparently people in your own government speak out against the US and you all act like its an outrageous statement. BAAH SHEEP
ziccy7 2 years ago
Like the majority of liberal democrats, this guy is a scum bag and should be horse whipped in public.
miket1m 2 years ago
Dumbazzed neo clowns, as usual, saying Durbin called ALL troops out comparing them to nazi's etc. IT was how the guards, and others in charge of prisoners treated them inhumanely.
Get a life and quit lying so much. It's the non stop lying that keeps you morons on the right losing all the time now.
Buzzramjet 2 years ago
I don't like the stuff what americans do in Guantanamo, but comparing them to Pol Pot or Khmer Rouge is just stupid.
hydraa 3 years ago
Senator Durbin is talking about Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse. It will never be forgotten and you idiots will never be able to take his words out of context.
spfldnet 3 years ago
Dr. Steve Sauerberg for Illinois Senator in 2008!!
bookbook6 3 years ago
In Illinois, we call him DICKHEAD or DICK TURBIN!
mrcubfan 3 years ago 6
wow, what a piece of shit.
hairymulletjr 3 years ago
Ah, the face of the enemy within. Take a good look at that S.O.B. and remember his breed: They forsake our Country for their Party. Scum of the earth.
Researcher555 3 years ago
by the way I remixed his speech :o
WaffleBakingStar 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Troops, he said it was an FBI agent retards not the troops
mharris666 4 years ago 2
Lol you made yourself look like a retard. He said the FBI agent MADE the report. The Nazi stuff are comments coming from his mouth.
WaffleBakingStar 3 years ago
he's a nasty liberal
bmoecardinals 4 years ago
Durbin is a Nazi that should be tried for treason.
Such comments only show hatred for the country that provides his livelihood. Perhaps live would be better for you in North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan? You certainly do not deserve to be a US lawmaker. Bum.
sworn1 4 years ago
Durbin...America's biggest traitor to the country.
What a disgusting elected official he is.What is wrong with you people in Illinois? Let's hope Chicago is spared their own 9-11.You can thank Dick and his pals on the LEFT,the ACLU who gut the Patriot Act when it comes to Lakeshore Drive and Michigan Avenue.
hihats 4 years ago 3
What a fool Durbin is was a sad, sad fool he is!
DemolitionWWF 4 years ago 3
Dick (The Turban) Durbin isn't near the fool as the Illinois public he supposedly represents.
They keep electing him. term after term after term.....
51362879 3 years ago 2
Some of these comments prove that liberals are all about "feels good" and completely ignore the "does good" way of working with each other and those around the planet. They have been around since the Revolutionary war; hell, they've been around longer than that, do you think they know anything about the French Revolution? Probably not, but that guillotine came down on many necks because someone pointed them out as, "not a good citizen." Doesn't that sound familiar -- and scary!
spydercadet 4 years ago
Give it up.
Read Tom Paine, learn something about the French Revolution and those that were at the very front of that force, that is %100 against what you have to say.
Again, you don't adress the fact that Durbin was talking about the policies of the POTUS and Rummy's warped Pentagon, yet continue to spread the lie that it was an attack on "da troops". That's how it goes; you're caught in your mess, so you switch the subject. Retards.
volumptuous 4 years ago
What AMERICANS had done. -___-
I don't think Donald Rumsfeld was a troop DOING what is inside that paper. My 2 cents.
WaffleBakingStar 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This isn't a meaningful debate.
When people somehow misconstrue that Durbin was actually talking about the policies of the POTUS and the Pentagon and not "Da Troops", there's no way to have a debate. That's why I call you retarded.
volumptuous 4 years ago
Hmm? What AMERICANS had done.
Unless Bush was a soldier in Iraq doing the things that's in that report, then I don't think he was attacking the POTUS's policies.
WaffleBakingStar 3 years ago
If Lincoln hadn't been re-elected, the north would have made peace, they wouldn't have sought a winning outcome. They just wanted the war to end. Some say they don't know what would have happened, but you'd have to be one very large ostrich with your head in the sand and one very big butt in the air. Slavery would have continued and new states would have been able to decide the slavery issue on their own.
spydercadet 4 years ago 2
I would love it if the people who hate GW, and they do it so intently, learned history. "the American people want an end to the war, too many have died, it has cost too much, too many have dies, the peace democrats in congress are trying to sue for peace" Unfortunately, this isn't now, it was 1864 and it was the Civil war, not OIF.
spydercadet 4 years ago 2
I agree, but one would think that if your ideas matched or encouraged the terrorists, you'd take a step back and review. Just one basic question, what is it that I am saying or doing that fits in with the terrorists. But they never do. Amazing, isn't it.
spydercadet 4 years ago
The new constitutuents of the Demoncrats: The Islamist Jihadists. Everytime the Demoncrats push for surrender and America's defeat, (just like what they're currently doing in Congress), The islamists websites are all praises and happy that the Deoncrats are on their side.
tacticomp 4 years ago 3
tacticomp, don't you know that if you can't make a rational point to support your side, you resort to name calling. That way they never have to justify their point of view. That can very hard for them, after all they "develop" their view through 10 sec sound bites!
spydercadet 4 years ago
Absolutely, Spyder--It doesn't take intelligence to be a liberal, all you need is emotion. And these loonies are the George Soros surrogates (the money bag for Move-on, Daily Kos, Media Matters, and all the leftwing causes and blogs, permeating our society) And the liberal diploma mills are churning these robots out by the thousands.
tacticomp 4 years ago
You people are retarded.
volumptuous 4 years ago
So when he says, if i read this report to you, you'd like it was from three of the worse dictators of the 20th century. So, who was he comparing to those dictators; I know it was their soldiers who actually commited the atrocities and ours for doing the same thing. Get it?
spydercadet 4 years ago
I don't know what your worldviews are--but declaring people are retarded across the board, who are practicing their 1st amendment rights on this blog, without enumerating a justifiable point, is more retarded that the people you're ostracising, Volumptious. BTW did you mean 'voluptuous'?
tacticomp 4 years ago
Here's a good strategy, Volumptuous. (somehow this name strikes me as the new idiom or slang for 'FAT'-- but I digress) Why don't you join in and engage in a meaningful debate with us, so we could actually see who's retarded.
tacticomp 4 years ago
As an Illinoisian and parent of a deployed soldier, this guy SUCKS!!! And what was his "apology" Sorry if "YOU" took offense. What??? I don't get anyone who still supports him. So much for "I support the troops just not the war" really, tell me what great support you put behind the troops over this one
spydercadet 4 years ago 3
Check out RoweForSenate dot com This video is just one of the reasons I'm running.
rowelegal 4 years ago
Durbin is a communist sympathizer. He should move to China and join his friends.
elvisbelt 4 years ago 2
I agree with oddjob29.Not ALL u.s. soldiers are bad just a certain percentage.If anyone's a nazi it's the one's giving the orders.
Voodoogod123 4 years ago
Not all U.S. citizens are anit-American, just a certain percentage like YOU.
elvisbelt 4 years ago
typical lying worthless liberal ...a domestic enemy!
DNM35 4 years ago
What a dope.
Sparisi1122 4 years ago
You people are seriously retarded if you think he's "attacking the troops".
There's nothing more to say, because this is pure nonsese and doesn't bear discussion.
volumptuous 4 years ago
What??? Ge just said the report made out troops look like three of the worse dictators of the 20th Century. What did you hear? My child was there and let me tell you, I know and raised her, she is definitely NOT, a nazi, stalinist or khmer rouge type soldier. In fact she is 180 degrees in the opposite direction, as are all of our troops!!!
spydercadet 4 years ago
Durbin called our soldiers Nazis. And you fascist liberals defend him!
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
Dick Durbin is a back stabber! What a letdown to the troops.
truthforamerica 4 years ago
A choice between a back-stabber and the deceitful executive branch of Bush...no contest! you are typical of the immoral or gullible minority still blindly adoring this joke of a president.hhahahha
Catnipsta 4 years ago
> Dick Durbin is a back stabber! What a letdown to
> the troops.
The people who essentially lost the war in Iraq by painting the entire US armed forces as criminals to the Iraqi people have let not just the entire US down, but have seriously damaged our moral reputation, and have endangered the lives of every active duty serviceman in a warzone.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
he's just saying fact. these very small number of U.S. troops are as bad as Nazis. you saw the pics, don't defend Evil. FUCK those troops, God Bless 99.7% of them
oddjob29 4 years ago
hell yes!!! Dick Durbin is the man! I am proud to be from Illinois and to have voted for this man!
cardsmoviegal 4 years ago
you are as sick as he is
DNM35 4 years ago
you should be embaressed by this communist left-wing nut-case. He wants to destroy this country.
elvisbelt 4 years ago
So you're proud to support someone who bashes our military. Typical liberals. The only soldiers you ever support are the phony soldiers like Jesse MacBeth.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
This senator is a disgrace to America.
darcytirsia 4 years ago
Reason number 1,201,307 why I am a Republican. We don't compare our Men and Women of the Armed Forces to Nazis. Please, I beg you all. This kind of crap is what you never see on the news because it depicts the true nature of most liberals. Don't buy the media bias, look at facts besides polls, and vote Republican.
lsucdhild1 4 years ago
I wont and cant vote republican (dont like in the US) but you do actually make a fair point. I guess some republicans are misunderstood :)
badfex 4 years ago
Don't even start your kind just loves to take a blind eye at these things and think America's perfect and never wrong and always fighting evil with pure goodness, that's not the truth and you people know it. American soldiers,not all of them don't get me wrong, but yes some do, commit horrible crimes on innocent civillians and prisoners. how about just a month ago when that group of soldiers RAPED AND KILLED a young girl and her family?
Kakumei123 4 years ago
We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard.
rfederer8 4 years ago
Sen. dick go suck a dick you filthy cocksucker!
daddyphattycake 5 years ago
HE is 1000% right. USA IS A NAZI STATE AND BIGGEST TERRORIST IN HISTORY!
ALL DECIENT AMERICANS! TAKE BACK AMERICA!
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
u dumb fuck nobody agrees with you, I should skull fuck you with my words but i don't want to waste my time on a insignificant spec like you
daddyphattycake 4 years ago
HE IS 100% correct. BUSH IS NEW HITLE, WAR CRIMINAL.
CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO USA like NEO-CONS and REPUBLICAN TERRORRIST PARTY! USA IS THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN HISTORY.
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
WOah dude chill. As much as I completely disagree with the US and their every move under a republican government no need for random insults!
Remember the time you caled me an idiot for no reason? ;)
badfex 4 years ago
NO YOU GO FUCK YOUR MOM!
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
pna needs to read a few books, maybe then he'll be able to deceive well
daddyphattycake 4 years ago
USA HAVE DONE ALL THE SAME BUTCH 5x LONGER PERIOD THAN THE OLD NAZIS DID.
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
congratulations pna your officially an idiot
daddyphattycake 4 years ago
who is pna?
Are you talking PNAC -USA plkan tomake billions with 9/11. A NEO-CON NAZI PLAN? OR OTHER THAT GROP WAR CRIMES?
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
Hey back up, you are looking like the stupid lefties, they don't understand the arguement so they name call. We on the right try never to sink to their level.
spydercadet 4 years ago
true that.. they really are sad
daddyphattycake 4 years ago
Tacticomp forgot 1 little error by his trusted republican government, that they LIED about weapons of mass destruction as a scapegoat in order to overthrow saddam. Good cause, terrible consequences my subjective little right-wingers...
badfex 5 years ago
You have to look up the definition of lying, Bush didn't lie, he and EVERY intellingent agencies across the globe believed the same thing. Or was GW, so smart that he was able to trick Bill and Hillary, the French, Germans, Russians, and Chinese to say that Iraq had WMD's. Bush is so smart, isn't he. You can't have it both ways, he's the smarted or the dumbest; which one?
spydercadet 4 years ago
If Republicans lied, so did Clinton, Berger, Albright, Pelosi, and Reid.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! (the reason for the season). These includes you secularist liberals who seem to hate Christmas and the thought of having a God who created you. ...may God Bless you too!
tacticomp 5 years ago
I love christmas! xD may god bless all (except communists of course, the ol' american way :) )
badfex 5 years ago
Durbin is nothing but a self serving anti American lefty.
Auggie56 5 years ago
Fight the man! Go Turbin Durbin!
Someone has to stand up against right and for wrong.
steve10c 5 years ago
Let's start with you. Let's see if you practice what you preach.
There are many young men and women who volunteered to serve our country, sacrificing their lives so you can say stupid things in a blog like this. Is it right for a US Senator to compare these fine American soldiers to Nazis, Stalin, Hitler, Polpot or any other oppressive regimes or despots?
tacticomp 5 years ago
FINE AMERICAN SOLDIERS!? half of them are goddam low-life rednecks.
badfex 5 years ago
What a sweeping, ignorant, condenscending statement. And without any data to back it up! Rednecks or not, it doesn't hide the fact, that they volunteered and willing to face the ultimate sacrifice to keep your sorry ass free. They are the line in the sand that's keeping you from being beheaded by Muslim fanatics.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Hahahahahaha!!!! I can't believe you took that comment seriously xD
badfex 5 years ago
I respect what these patriots are doing for my country and I take any insulting remarks that denigrate their sacrifices. I have relatives and friends who are currently serving the Military. Most of them are professionals like dentists, accountants, commercial pilots, etc., far cry from being a redneck. They left cushy jobs to do the right thing for the America.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Hey taticomp, I can tell your a nationalist or republican, so they're are 2 types of republican sterreotypes:
1.) The faschist, retarded hillbilly hicks who believe in their *native soil* and have strong right-wing values about EVERYTHING
2.) The corrupt, *well educated* wastes of space who sip their champagne whilst discussing why violent videogames should be banned becuase he has very little else to do with his time.
Which catogory do you fall under???
badfex 5 years ago
Neither, I'm an (legal)immgrant from a third world country, where a knock on the door at night could either mean an arrest, incarceration, torture, or even death. I fled to America, the land of the free, home of the brave, and embraced freedom like my life depends on it. And it does. I would rather die that live in oppression. That's why i'm passionate in defending this country against those who wants to destroy it.
tacticomp 5 years ago
I simply pointed out 'you don't know me so don't judge me' and you went on a rampage of how socialist is wrong. No hard feelings?
badfex 5 years ago
"Been there done that" I know what Socialism/Marxism or Maoism are all about. I can't tell you the details, but I got to know those ideologies first hand, in my youth. The State runs every aspect of your life--culturally, economically and Socially.
Contrary to its doctrine, that "power comes from the masses" is a myth. The party members holds the true power. Socialism is a failure like the USSR
tacticomp 5 years ago
Maoism is a farce, that everybody should be a peasant and not progress as individuals so I completely agree with you there. For the record I don't believe in complete socialism (since I do respect many liberal and conservative issues)just democratic socialism. Being british the party for that is the Labour party, but they're a fucking disgrace in this country and no longer have ANY socialist values (except health care is no longer privatised but the quality is way worse).
badfex 5 years ago
Just like the socialist patterned, single payer, Canadian "health care" system. You have to wait for months, perhaps a year, for an MRI or Catscan. Care quality is non existent, because you get paid the same, so it discourages competition.
Like it or not, it's a business too. And in the economic marketplace, competition is the driving force to quality service or better products that attracts the clientele.
Combat45 5 years ago
Yes It Is a business but it morally shouldn't be. I mean c'mon, should the government really have the right to put a price on peoples health? The only reason the NHS (and Labour) is failing is because they no longer have a sense of idealogy and don't appeal to the working-class. Currently in my eyes they're nothing to me anymore, i wasted a vote.
FOr the record, americans hate canadians, go figure xD
badfex 5 years ago
It's Mutual, Canadians started hating us before they even coddled the cowards who ran to Canada to avoid the draft.
For an individual who spent the better part of 10 years of his/her life in school, plus internship at different hospitals is not really for moral reasons.
To a handful, it might be the case, but many, many doctors and health care professionals are there strictly for economic reasons--I know, I have several relatives who are doctors and nurses.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Republicans aren't fascist. They don't blame Jews for everything, make excuses for radical Islam, support rape hoaxes and rap music, are against abortion, support American soldiers and the Second Amendment, and don't defend racist quota systems.
StoogeWatcher 3 years ago
svector 5 years ago
Does Al Qaeda really want a democratic presidency and congress? didnt think so...
badfex 5 years ago
Of course they do. Which party is advocating pulling us out of Iraq and doing away with NSA wiretaps? (Hint: not the Republicans)
svector 5 years ago
IM against NSA wiretaps, does that make me a democrat or member of al quaeda?
badfex 5 years ago
How many intercepts of enemy plans and schemes, or funding tactics, that have been the catalyst in stopping the Islamo Fascists cells from attacking the US again?, because of our effective intelligence programs that looks for enemy call patterns?
You might not be a Demoncrat or AL Qaida, but If you are against these strategy that could save American lives, then you clearly are on their side--and that's treasonous.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Then think about it from the terrorists point of view:
They're constantly told every day their type are suspected of being the most murderous, devious and evil people in the world strictly of their belief. No wonder they seek revenge.
I dont agree with ANY side of the of the issue
badfex 5 years ago
Here's the problem with leftwing nutjobs like 'badflex', they're ill-informed and clueless of serious political issues. They just hear 15 sec. soundbites of the liberal media and demoncratic pundits and presto!.. they have an opinion!
Radical Islamists blogs says so. before and after the elections, they supported the 'defeat' of Bush and celebrated the (temporary) victory of the Demoncrats--Because, as 'svector' brilliantly assessed the Demoncrats' "agendas" favor the enemy politically.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Ok i'll put it this way, I personally hate the party system. I think every politician should all be completely independant and not cram their 'ajendas' down the publics throats. I'm more of a socialist and believe in independance and respect some liberal and conservative issues, so dont call me a left-wing nutjob when you clearly don't know me.
badfex 5 years ago
You just admitted that you're a 'Socialist'. And who pushed the Socialism ideology? Marx? Engels? Lenin? Everyone knows they're Leftists. Leftist are now hiding under the term 'progressives'. But no matter what labels they hide from, they're still leftwing nut jobs like you. You just epitomized it by defending the terrorists (above) and feeling their pain' con't..
tacticomp 5 years ago
Your a right-wing nutjob, go figure...
badfex 5 years ago
No sir, Those are the 'black helicopter' crowd.
But if my country is in danger of being attacked again, and we are, by those whose primary existence is the annihilation of Americans, I might just be as 'rightwing' as the next patriot and as courageous as the American soldier.
Combat45 5 years ago
You've just demonstrated your fear, it's funny how assholes like you can go off and begin to accuse anybody who makes a loud noise as being a terorist. Your ridicilious, the lot of you xD
Get back to reading Tom Clancy novels and fantasising about saving the world from a nuclear holocaust under your precious flag <_<.
badfex 5 years ago
You just epitomized it by 'taking the terrorists perspective' and 'feeling their pain', defending their killing sprees because these islamoFascists were 'hurt' for being called 'murderous and evil' that made them 'vengeful'. Now that psychobabble alone is a clear sign of a leftwing nut job who can't recognize evil for what it is.
tacticomp 5 years ago
You're a "socialist" with some conservative values?
LOL. Is that even possible?
svector 5 years ago
I am on your side in case you didn't noticed.
tacticomp 5 years ago
NO, Al Qaida just wants us infidels to submit to a worldwide Islamist states and takes us back to the 16th century. If you resist ... you're DEAD
tacticomp 5 years ago
IDIOT!
wwwPNACATTACKcom 5 years ago
You called me "idiot' and 'stupid' and yet you cannot expound as to why I am such, then that makes you a MORON for not articulating your stance.
How about it? You want a debate? Go for it MORON!
tacticomp 5 years ago
What the hell are you doing here!? Is this your new found opinion on everybody on this board? that they're 'idiots'? jeezus you purely don't care about any of these issues so piss off for the sake of EVERYBODY here with a decent opinion: Myself,svector and tacticomp. I disagree with them both but at least they've posted something worth reading!
badfex 5 years ago
Hey Finlander, Why don't you join your country's struggle to win back your country from the Muslim's takeover before these Radical Islamo-Fascists cut your head off.
tacticomp 5 years ago
What's with all your fucking hatread!? just becuase somebody doesn't agree with your terms you think it's ok to start breathing down their necks liek the right-wing faschist that you are!! Get back to 'supporting your troops' in your 'war of terror'!
badfex 5 years ago
badflex, You keep protesting that I shouldn't be "judging you because I don't know you", and yet, you picked up the same stone and threw it to me.
Which led me to believe, that your words and actions reveals you more for what you are.
tacticomp 5 years ago
That's what you get for being an asshole! simple retailation, nothing more.
badfex 5 years ago
It's called 'conviction' driven by my core beliefs in God & Country and the American Values of Freedom and Liberty. I am willing to defend them, whether in the battlefield or leftwing drivel in these blogs. So far, I have done a good job of both.
tacticomp 5 years ago
You said your defending your convictions, so what am I guilty of? Having an opinion? NOT agreeing with the governments every move like you? or is it much deeper...how about the brands of clothes I wear?
badfex 5 years ago
If it's the right thing to do, like fighting the Muslim Fanatics who wants to do us harm, or your right to be stupid, I will support the government. But if they want to take my Freedom away, then I will be the first one to go to the hills.
tacticomp 5 years ago
I never said anything about muslim fanatics or extremists, I said what am I guilty of? You've just attempted to define what the right thing is to do and in my opinion not said very much other than you love the great democratic constitution of the american government that is apparantly faultless. Im not being stupid, im asking a question, so what am I personally guilty of in your eyes??
badfex 5 years ago
First of all, you're an admitted 'Socialist'. To many thinkers (like moi), the socialism ideology experiment is a dismal failure, it will never work, it has been tried many times and it failed all the time. The Soviet empire was a great example. Other European socialism experiments like France, Netherlands is now collapsing. (do your research on that one). con't
tacticomp 5 years ago
That's my bad, i should've put democratic socialism, still democracy dumbell.
badfex 5 years ago
No government system is 'faultless'-- but the nearest system that could advance and provide the universal human desire for individual freedom and liberty, or economic prosperity is the democratic republic system of government such as the United States. (that explains why millions of people wants to immigrate here. con't...
tacticomp 5 years ago
No government system is 'faultless'-- You simply said 'DEMOCRATS WILL GET US KILLED!' but many also agreed with the war. Im not american and dont know the complex tapestry but the overall majority agreed with the republicans.
badfex 5 years ago
Secondly, your psychobable on taking the "terrorists point of view" (!?) as if you want to 'feel their pain' and sympathize and justify their vengeful murderous ways, is a red flag to me, that you are clueless on the severity of the grave danger we are facing as a civilization. con't..
tacticomp 5 years ago
WEll is it illegal to think from a different perspective? I was simply putting myself in their shoes and wondering why they want to kill us infidels in the first place. I NEVER said I agreed with them and I NEVER said I was a sympathier to their horiffic acts (btw i was there during the 7/7/05 attacks in london). I have a few muslim friends who have stated that the quran doesn't preach hate but for defence. You can't simply say MUST! KILL! DESTORY! or your just as bad as them.
badfex 5 years ago
*just as bad as the islamo facists not muslims in general, I needed to reword that.
badfex 5 years ago
These Radical islamo fascists are driven by a religious ideology that wants to eliminate those who will not agree with them. They love death than life that they can kill without remorse--and 'taking their perspective' is sheer gobbledygook stupidity andcertainly will not appease them.
tacticomp 5 years ago
cont. Then the Soviet Union falls so congress realises, wait, we've built tunnells and set up murderous regimes in neighbouring countries for the sake to stop the spread of 'world communism'. You must not forget that there was no invasion of countries like Chile and Iraq during the cold war simply because their regimes in place were either supported by the US government or weren't under a communist idealogy.
badfex 5 years ago
Wait, it's your very same government that got your country and its allies into this very mess in the first place we're in now, creating their own secret dictatorship and alligning with ruthless murderers to simply stop the 'spread of communism' during the cold war. Then the Soviet Union
badfex 5 years ago
Yeah, blame America for all of the world's ills.
Yeah, it's all America's 'fault' and Stalin's, Marx's, Engels', Lenin's, Mao's, Polpot's, Ho's, Castro's, Ortega's communists regimes are not to be blamed for the millions kiled in the name of Communism.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Do some research and you'll see that america (during the cold war period) helped set up many regimes of terror comparable to that of the communists in order to stop the spread of communism.
badfex 5 years ago
Being a political junkie, I do know the history of death squads set up by banana republics. I even had first hand experiences with these goons. However, atrocities started from the communists side as a form of intimidation on the masses and the DS was formed to counter these killings. You've got to draw the line and defend society--sadly, unfortunately, it creates a cycle.
You only see one side as bad but doesn't see the other , because of your socialist bias.
tacticomp 5 years ago
You've just basically repeated what I said then stuffed that i'm bias at the end. Growing up in a socialist background isn't going to change my overall opinion but I do have respect for the other ideals (liberalism and conservatism) to the point where i can no longer be classed as a hardcore socialist (which im not anyway).
badfex 5 years ago
And The Soviets extensively 'exported' their 'socialist revolutions' (and their 'gulags') throughout the globe. You expect the freedom loving countries of the world to sit around and do nothing?
I'm so glad that communisism got defeated and collapsed on its own weight. Long Live Freedom!
tacticomp 5 years ago
Merry christmas to you as well!
badfex 5 years ago
I see both sides as being bad, being the ones backed by the US or not. I was simply pointing out that I wasn't blaiming the US government for Engles, Marx etc. but for their participation in building up those death squads. The DS were also just a case of blood must attone for blood, seeing as you were involved with them personally i wont get involved in discussing them.
badfex 5 years ago
cont.
I never blamed america in general that would just be stupid, and communism IS a murderous reign but when you say 'islamofaschists' supporting saddam, al quaeda and such are destroying this country it was america who supported them in the first place all for the sake to destory the whole cocept of 'communism'
And you probably see me as a communist, WRONG! im just using sheer fact to build up that everybody was having a shit time partly because of america's shit descision making.
badfex 5 years ago
This is so "Clintonesque", so typical of a leftist liberal--speaking on both sides of the mouth, 'triangulating' with no conviction and full of contradiction.
You just asserted above that America was "responsible for all the mess" but now you're denying it! I guess it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is, huh!
tacticomp 5 years ago
Nope, im just more true to my roots than you are, youve even said you immigrated so dont call me clintonesque!
Oh and by the way, when clinton lied, nobody died. You republicans really need to get your priorities straight.
badfex 5 years ago
"True to your roots"? who are fooling? Your socialist admittance and your anti American stance makes you unrecognizable as a true 'American'. You seem to have sided with our enemies with your vile rhetoric about your country. "When badfex lies, truth certainly dies"
When Clinton was lying, blissfully sidetracked and getting 'smoked' by Lewinsky, Osama meanwhile, was scheming and planning that eventually killed 3,000 Americans.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Ok your just being an asshole now, first of all i dont live in america i live in the UK, secondly I dont like to think a high pitched noise is suspect of being a terrorist attack like you obviously do. Finally, i'm not anti-amercian, i'm anti right ring nutjob who thinks fear is the perfect sign to go on. Y'know we had a terrorist attack too, your not the only ones involved in this despite thinking you are!!!
badfex 5 years ago
The height of arrogance! What makes you an 'expert' on American internal affairs? You live in a cocoon existence--not realizing the consequential times we, as a civilization is facing. This is not about fear alone. We had witness an enemy who can kill innocent people, even their own kind, without remorse. Your Neville Chamberlain approach shows your ignorance of the bitter lessons of history.
tacticomp 5 years ago
And Churchill was any better!? BOTH were Conservatives, haters of the working class and full of rich snobs, not different from the core republicans really. Anyway this isn't about my past, times have dramaticaly changed in the last 60 years! lessons have been learnt but america's dramatic intrusions are comparable of that of nazi's. Also I never said I was an 'expert', I have more of a life than sitting here chatting to wastes of space like yourslef who is a claimed 'political junkie'.
badfex 5 years ago
You got that right! 60 years had 'dramatically changed' the ingrates America had saved from the clutches of Fascism. Now they see us as the villain of the world, and blames us for all it's ills. INGRATES!
tacticomp 5 years ago
It's that kind of attitude that provokes that hatred! What do you propose the rest of the world does eh? bows down to your grand nation? work only for your gain? We ALL did our fare share in WW2 (or those that were alive) and we were bombed to hell! Oh getting back to learning lessons, have you learnt from vietnam? Becuase by the looks of things the War on terror is possibly going to last as long.
badfex 5 years ago
Precisely! Watson! nice deduction. We definitely should learn the lessons of Vietnam by: NOT RETREATING! and avoid the repeat of the 'killing fields' aftermath that resulted in the vacuum. History 101: learn from the mistakes of history and never repeat it!
tacticomp 5 years ago
Please shut up, these cheap attempts to make me look stupid basing your answers on 'ideaology' and 'learning past mistakes' are just pathetic, predictable and downright nerdy.
Just give up now, you had to reduce yourself to admitting to be an immigrant who escaped AMERICAS's death squads on those banana republics, so your whole belief is based on tone that was trying to kill you! xD. Like I said, your friends at the Tom Clancy book club await!
badfex 5 years ago
No sir! YOU are doing a hell of a fine job of making yourself look stupid, I just reinforce it. (pick up a Tom Clancy novel, it might improve your IQ)
Keep speculating, for all you know, I might not have immigrated from a 'banana republic' but a British colonial territory.
tacticomp 5 years ago
No thanks, Tom clancy is a militant dick who fantasises about his precious american army saving the world from nuclear holocaust, you should rub your fat cocks together some day and help him write another shitty novel...
badfex 5 years ago
And making millions doing it too. I think you're Jealous.
Hmmmm! makes me wonder, how come you know the shape of Tom Clancy's cock?
tacticomp 5 years ago
you are correct. He is a fear monger.
CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO USA like NEO-CONS and REPUBLICAN TERRORRIST PARTY!
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
Your Neville Chamberlain was mainly responsible for that fiasco. Instead of seeing Adolf for what he is, as a menacing threat to the region and the world, (sounds familiar?) and made extensive defense preparations. Chamby appeased Hitler to the hilt. (pun intended) And you Brits were taken to the cleaners unprepared, that you have to beg for armaments (lend lease program) from us, generous Americans.
tacticomp 5 years ago
You sound like a whiney north korean propagandist...
badfex 5 years ago
Demoncrats will get us all killed! Please, vote wisely, vote those who will fight the enemy and protect the country!
tacticomp 5 years ago
STUPID!
wwwPNACATTACKcom 5 years ago
How does that work out? Democrats also wanted to go to war. ASS!
badfex 5 years ago
Yah they wanted to go to war but after we started taking casualties they wanted to cut and run. Our grandfather's generation made over 100 times the sacrifice we have made thus far. Both wars on foriegn soil and both so very important. The only difference is that the liberal wackos of today have become complete fucking pussies. Don't give me that Kerry is a war hero bullshit. Read the video about his first purple heart and you will find that Kerry didn't deserve it.
birdman342 5 years ago
I wouldn't give a shit if kerry stopped a tank with his own hands. I dont particuarly like Democrats and i despise Republicans, at least the Democrats have some sort of. Seeing as Bush has turned america into a teror-obsessed sespool what other choice is there?
badfex 5 years ago
You're Demented, Deranged Hatred for Bush (DD4H syndrome) makes you look stupid. Here's your (stupid) sign. Our survival as a civilization is at stake from those who wants to annihilate and shove their warped medieval religion on us. And the Demoncrats are playing partisan politics with our lives, with no alternative plan for national security except to cut and run. Sacrificing our collective asses just so they can bring down the President.
tacticomp 5 years ago
Dont fucking lecture me, you were the one starting to preach your own brand of hatred towards me, your the one who decided to use this fucking scapegoat of 'survival as a civilization' in an attempt to make somebody you don't know look stupid. Your nothing but a right wing loser who thinks i'm derranged because I believe Bush has turned your country into a terror obsessed sespool. So many would agree with me too, get back to your tom clancy book club.
badfex 5 years ago
*some sort of self-respect, even after clinton (btw that was a private affair leaked to the world because they weren't allowed into north korea and were too scared to enter chetchnya, bosnia and such)
badfex 5 years ago
"Private Affair" when a Demoncrat is involved in sleazy affairs--but when a Republican sends inappropiate emails to Pages, why, it's 'despicable'!, it's 'outrageous'! and get toasted by the liberal media. HYPOCRITES!
tacticomp 5 years ago
Yeah, that e-mail could have been ANYTHING! an affair isn't exactly going to breach any government conduct or put the publics lives at risk is it now?
Oh and which caused the most uproar? The Democrats obviously!! So that the Republicans could use this for their own political gain!! HYPOCRITES!!
badfex 5 years ago
Your comparing apples and oranges.
Perjury, lying under oath, obstruction of justice is a 'bloody' serious impeachable crime, Laddie.
Comedian Jeff Foxworthy who said that stupid people should wear signs, couldn't have said it better: "Here's your sign".
tacticomp 5 years ago
I dont hear any mention about the Republicans political gains ol' chap....
badfex 5 years ago
It's under the Queen's royal skirt, you loyal SUBJECT!
tacticomp 5 years ago
Yeah, under the queens skirt. a tatty waste of space just like yourself!
badfex 5 years ago
The difference is... YOU are paying for its maintenance!
Bloody pitiful existence eh! Imagine being a 'SUBJECT for life!
tacticomp 5 years ago
Old news, old man! The queen is nothing more than a celebrity now. We dont pay ANYTHING to the queen, they have their wealth.
At least in the UK we're not controlled by the mass fear! xD
badfex 5 years ago
You are only controlled by the Royals' excesses.
And the trusty little peasants plays along with the charade.
tacticomp 5 years ago