How can Printer ink expire?

[Ibringthetruth1]

Do not buy inkjet printers!

buy a laser printer.

The inkjet companies all use the same bullshit tactics. They need to be sued for shady shit like this. HP = cocksuckers.

[Me102288]

cant hear him over that lame music... get a laser, $100 toner lasts 10's of thousands of copys.

[aharon401]

fuera de que es bien cara la tinta $180,000 por 4 m.l. o sea un litro $45,000,000 lo que vale un apartamento bien lujoso, espira la pila y queda sirviendo para nada. que tumbada me pegaron con esa hp f4280

[aidanrayner999]

My F4280 prints no matter what! :) (unless a cartridge is missing)

[user12119]

The worst part is anyone who needs to print is basically hooked.

[cotyslick]

i freking hate printers they cost so much to replace ink and with my hp printer (wich is awsome) i cant get windows 7 drivers for wtf is that it worked in vista sure its old but its better than most new ones it even prints small paper and CDS.

[happygamestvfun1]

cant hear you sombodys playing the news in the back ground, turn that shit off!

[scaleop4]

fuck it do what i do ....use refills. its better for the envelopment.

[SharkRetriver]

wow why your monitor flash, and omg

[tiredfingers99]

Old Hp printers like the 1220c use non chip cartridges, and print out 1200 dpi if you tell it that your using hp photo paper, when your using plain white paper, and the printer doesn't know the difference lol. And I refill HP75 and HP 45 with no problems. And since its old, you could probably get it cheap used price.

[grodenbarg]

LOL . wondering how many sheeple will take a baseball bat to their printer not knowing how to defeat this problem.

[DJKloop]

HP ink does expire, it will turn into a jello type substance.

[chrischoy9]

I have a HP 22 expire 2007 and now 2009, it still works

[ehtep]

I thinking about buying a new printer but somthing tells me to stay right away from Hewlett Packard, Can I get some give me recomendation into what printers a Refill friendly, which dont have idiotic chip presets as posted in this vid?

[denoxis]

For Canon and Brother printers, there are cheap compatible cartridges on the market which does not "expire" or cause recognition problems. I've also tried refilling the ink cartridge for my Canon PIXMA it worked like a charm.

[comebackata2]

what about epson?

[TheStoepsel27]

it is realy boring

[tunis5000]

get a laser printer

[uirak]

uhmms more money and not so healthy for you lungs.... cuz if you get a laser printer, the area wur it stays. must be well ventilated... cuz of the toner powder. its very vvery bad for you lungs

[ccricers]

Can anyone recommend an afforable printer for my mom that doesn't have this kind of problem? It's for light printing work. She would only need it once every few weeks. So we don't want to deal with cartridges that expire after only being used for several print jobs.

[denoxis]

Brother has cheap multifunction printers. With small footprint and available compatible cartridges sold at $5-$6 a piece (vs $20-$25 OEM) Look for one that uses LC-51 series cartridges.

[benatkin815]

@ccricers Also - Kodak are doing some ace printers with excellant prices on replacment ink

[SaganAppreciationSoc]

Hewlett Packard went to hell after they stopped focusing on workstations in the 80's. Then Compaq came along after ruining DEC, they assimilated HP and made them suck even more.

Never buy HP. Trust me on this. EVER. Installing the drivers for a multifunction printer/scanner took over 30 minutes on a dual-core machine running at 2GHz, and it put on all maner of crapware sans permission. Go to the site instead and download the minimal drivers instead.

[dav1d2903]

well i got a hp psc 1410, and hp have buried the batterys under everything, so if you wanted to remove the battery in these you have got a long messy job a head of you,so u basicly have to strip the whole printer insides out,all the litle parts that like to pop out but dont wanna go back in, iam not going to bother tying to do it, i will probbly fuck the printer up completly!!! fuck you HP ya scheming CUNTS

[NineLivesUnlimted]

they are scheming CUNTS. i've got a hp6210 and it shits me everytime i have to refil the black cartridge. i can't pull the cartridge out, i have to refill it inside the printer. sometimes i've had around 30 refills per cartridge, other times i've only had one.

i'm gonna try pulling the cmos batteries out next.

[OnlySoaa]

The circuit on the color cartridge died, and the printer printer is one of the models that requires both cartridges.

It's not a date triggered failure. It just happened that the color cartridge failed. And Staples cartridges kinda suck too.

[Eirik174]

Hewlet Packard is a disciple of satan. This just happened to me, and i want to shoot the thing with a shotgun like other guys on youtube have done.

[InkjetTech007]

contrary to popular belief, this print cartridge.. that seems to be a "brand new" "re-man" ink cartridge will not last forever. its a consumable product. it cant just "expire by date trigger"

we know what happens to consumable products, right? eventually they fail. wear out. "are unable to preform there originally manufactured duties!"

No. there is no battery.

No. there is no "kill date" it's a "best if used before date".

Eventually these consumables fail. Buy a new print cartridge.

[JustMakingComments]

remove the battery and you might be able to use it again.

[DeeJayQuick]

And if you decide to dissemble the printer for parts you'll find the whole printer uses security screws. They've screwed us twice.

[DeeJayQuick]

I'm speculating here. If you turn off the printer by pulling the power cord, it won't have time to write the print cycle into memory. So next time you power up the ink reads at the same level.

[dickcheney6]

Why on earth do printers stop printing BLACK when the COLOR INK IS OUT! THE COMPANIES R RIPPING U OF!

[scorpio209]

that printer is a piece of shit. i had 2 of them(long story)and they never print so i kicked the shit out of it and the glass fell into the into the little treadmill thing

[bslove70]

printing with ink is not very cost effective....use toner instead...get a cheap laser printer from Dell

[slickzippyuk]

There is no such thing as a cheap laser printer from Dell! Did you know that Dell printers are in fact made by Lexmark?

And that they are THE most expensive inkjet and laser printers to run?

I recommend a Samsung CLP300 Colour Laser, available from PC World for around £100 and the cartridges are cheap to replace too!

I am an Industry expert and I own two Inkjet and Toner companies.

[NoCopywrite]

Wrong, my ink printer came with my old computer, I only print like 3 sheets a month, so its not cost effective to buy a laser printer, unless youre printing in bulk.

[bigbslove]

3 sheets a month huh?...you hardly have any right to speak on the subject....you know NOTHING about printing

[HairyOldCopywriter]

siobheanne sounds like he is an HP 9-5 slave. It's in HP's best interests that you purchase their ink. Check this out. Either pay HP or Epson $8,000 per gallon for ink or buy a CISS bulk ink system and cut your costs by 95%. Epson actually programs their printers to shut down after X amount of cycles. Then you fork over $100-$150 for a 2 minute job by a $8 an hour tech that resets your printer. Solution? By a waste ink bottle.

[siobheanne]

Once a cartridge has been depleted (as it must be, to be remanufactured or refilled), HP has no obligation to ensure functionality. Their cartridge, their ink, within it's expiration period. Absolutely. Refill it, open it, deplete it or buy remanufactured? Not their fault. Would you blame Ford if you filled a Mustang with home-made ethanol and it didn't run properly? Hmm.

[denoxis]

Why would I fill Mustang with Ethanol when Ford says "works with Ford gas only". I just wouldn't buy a new tank with Ford brand gas in it for $100, but buy a Shell gas $30/tank. Also if Ford happens to put a chip in the gas tank that would stop your gas pumping into your engine after certain period of time, wouldn't this be an unetichal use of technogoly? A monopoly? i.e. a Ripoff?

[siobheanne]

How is it HP's fault if your crappy remanufactured Staples cartridges failed on you? Take the issue up with Staples, not HP. (con't...)

[denoxis]

I think I wasn't clear enough in the video. HP's technology is the one makes your cartridge stop working. Google for "HP lawsuit ink cartridge"

[siobheanne]

The colour cartridge you show has a Staples label on it. That's not an HP cartridge. All ink cartridges will eventually fail due to ink evaporation or nozzle clogging. REAL HP cartridges are meant to be used once only. HP can't guarantee functionality of remanufactured ones, because who knows what formulation of ink goes into a refilled one? Also, was the black one a Staples cartridge?

[denoxis]

Cartridges don't get clogged overnight. It didn't matter if it was Staples or HP, it matters *when* it was manufactured (oh, and by who)

[siobheanne]

Would you get mad at Oscar Meyer if you got food poisoning from eating bologna that was 2 months past it's expiration? There's no dishonesty there. The dates are clearly stamped on the cartridge and box.

[denoxis]

Irrelevant, unless Oscar Meyer products has a chip in the package which holds the expiration date that can only be read by the refrigerator who seals the package on the expiration date forever without asking my permission or knowing real condition of the product. Company is responsible for putting 'best before' date, it is my call to consume the product or not. Printers cannot know the condition of the cartridges, they just estimate/guess, and most of the time they are off.

[siobheanne]

Maybe you'd just learn a lesson and buy HP cartridges? Assuming you're in the US; a #27 black cartridge is $15.99 for an OfficeDepot brand (Staples apparently doesn't sell HP-compatible cartridges anymore. Probably because they're not meant to be remanufactured!!) vs $17.99 for an HP one. $2 for a 70% chance of failure? Not worth the trouble.

Again, direct your next video at Staples, not HP.

[denoxis]

I learned not to buy any HP products. Got rid of the printer already. I cannot just accept that we consumers feel obligated to buy manufacturer's overpriced products just because we have no other option. I learned my lesson, I hope HP learns something too.

[siobheanne]

$2 overpriced? Hmm. You'd better get on the phone to the Better Business Bureau.

I'm sure they learned their lesson. Their company is now only worth $1,900,000,000,000,098 (1.9 billion) instead of $1,900,000,000,000,100.

And that's all I have to say about that!

[siobheanne]

Oops, I had a few too many zero's there. But you get the idea.

[surfitlive]

@siobheanne

Point is that if the heads clogged the printer should keep printing but the page will have dropouts on it. At that point the user determines to replece/clean the cart.

The Guarantee You talk about is BS here cause the printer stopped due to some gimmick chip.

The cartridge GOOD/BAD/Full/Empty Should not STOP the printer, it should just make the page to be poor or blank at the output.

[HairyOldCopywriter]

Get a bulk ink ciss system for your HP and you won't have headaches anymore. Unless you love paying $8,000 per gallon for ink. :(

I've had one for 8 years and never looked back.

[denoxis]

I didn't know such systems exist. I Googled around and it looks amazing. Thanks for the info.

[ozzirt]

@HairyOldCopywriter This is without a doubt the answer. I have been doing this for three years now and buy my ink in bulk. (500ml for $30) I have never had a moments trouble. Smaller users should only need to buy 100ml at a time for about $11.50.

That is very affordable printing. Most cartridges hold about 10mls of ink which means I get 50 refills for $30 or $0.60 per refill.

Refilling bulk ink tanks is quick and clean and can even be done while the printer is working.

[Cormac77]

HP ink catridge prices are rip offs...next time I will buy a laser printer

[x2218]

old ink can damage the jets. thats why they do that.

[denoxis]

unused ink can clog the nozzles, I don't think it can damage the printer. In HPs printheads are on the cartridge, in worse case you replace the cartridge with the new one. They could come up with a better solution like measuring/counting actual prints rather than stopping printing on some arbitrary date. I believe it is more like a marketing concern rather than technical. No wonder you find things like 'chip resetter' on the market.

[Noisefrombelow]

darn those ink cartridges

[Shirocco7]

Inkjets do need both tanks, yes. Inkjets are also very expensive to print with. If you don't like the cost of ink, buy a laser - it wasn't made for print quality. it was made for volume.

[denoxis]

Thanks for comments. Inkjets are not necessarily need both tanks (good old ones can print with black only) My point was why do they push new, two cartridges all the time. I believe it is just marketing and nothing else.

[ELY3M]

HP sucks. I have this exact hp printer and it always plays on me.