lol lol lol i can't tell if your being funny or republican just going to say both but really why bo most conservative not like separation of church and state I think we have all seen how well church and state work together for Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Afghanistan and lets not forget medieval europe (witch kabob anyone). I find myshelf hateing my own country its just falling apart and the people in power are fighting over who's in power. Pathetic
@xRedStingx Theism means belief in a God or creator, Atheism means a belief that their is no God (must be a belief, because it can't be held absolute where one doesn't have infinite knowledge.) In this case, a non-belief is belief, and where they define themselves by a word representing the non-belief, it is a religion.
@rcnoe71 A-Theism... AAAAAA-Theism!! Like Social and A-Social! When you're A-Social, means you're NOT social. A-Theism, means you're NOT a Theist(Believer).
Are you seriously implying that Atheists worship Charles Manson? Unlike 'religions' atheism has no set doctrine so to say we all believe those things the video says we believe is inherently wrong.
Wait a minute.. This video is so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start... Firstly, non-belief is NOT the same as belief. Not believing in god is a religion just like not collecting stamps is a hobby. Right at the end he says that the separation of church and state should apply to atheists as much as the religious... WTF!? That's what we've been saying for YEARS! Are they finally getting the picture? We don't want religious zealots having political power over ANYONE!
with everything you're applying to your record, your "record" is so factually off that to call it a record is being generous.
The law you site is actually a passage of 'obiter dictum' mean "said in passing" and is not legally binding, it's just the judges opinion. And the judge was very very wrong, secular humanism is not a religion, it's a philosophy, religious humanism is a religion.
And it takes 0 faith to say: "I don't see any evidence for a god" if you genuinely have not.
Christians kill people over religion retard. Atheists aren't a religion, they just think you're an idiot blinded by your own misfortune.
Also odd statistics. 2%, what are you FOX News. 2% in Turkey maybe. Across the board it's more like 14% and 15% of Americans are atheist and rising. All you did was take out the percentage of non-religious people. No God genius. A...Theist...NO...GOD.
@HobbsO No..people kill people over religion athiest are also involved trhe Supreme court ruled..yes they are..take it up with them..how's it feel to be classified as a religion..gotta love irony
@adoptedoneathotmail What are you watching FOX. Oh wait you are. Here, check out the "Eurobarometer Poll 2005 religion". Religion has also dropped since then. In 2005 the European average was 18% atheist and 27% agnostic. Europe consists of 731 million people. That's over 10% of the world. Times that by the 18% and you do get 1.9%. Add in Vietman (81%), Japan (65%), South Korea (30%) ONLY and you already have 229.3 mill Atheists (3.2% of the World). Also USA Atheists (4%)
@HobbsO Yes now I understand where you got your information, a completely unbias poll on a completely unbias website from completely unbias sources..Don't watch TV..my father called it an 'idiot box' and seeing some of these posts....I believe it. The question I have for you is..why are you here if you don't feel he knows what he is talking about..I mean the genuis who puts this out
@adoptedoneathotmail Why would a poll by the EU be bias thicko. Anyway someone has to fight stupidity. He encourages it and helps it along. Atheists are a religion...right. He's a real smart arse this one (note: sarcasm. I know you need sarcasm noted because you believe this crap^)
@HobbsO He is here to fight stupidity..and again..because you did not comprehend the first time around maybe a slower typing would suffice. T h e S u p r e m e C o u r t r u l e d i t i s a r e l i g i o n. Thank you for your opinion..because thats all it is.
@HobbsO 1.There are no 'personal morals' only morals.and the'gene' is non-existant
2. A form of practice is just that..the continuation in said form ie Attacking the belief of others different then your own.
3. Richard Dawkins IS worshiped as a godlike figure.
4. The purpose of the universe is for ME. It was created for Me.
Your claim to Mensa is suspect. I believe in GOD because I choose to..logic points to someone greater than myself. You believe what you do because YOU choose to . .
1. There are personal morals. To say otherwise is just ignorant.
2. Like I said, not a practice.
3. No he isn't. He is not the atheist prophet because such a thing would conflict with atheism.
4. No that Christianity with Adam and Eve. We don't know how it was created, we don't know (or care) why it was created and we certainly don't know what our purpose (if any) we have.
Logic points to science and reason. God points to fairies.
@HobbsO Science and reason does point to GOD having said ,that it is obvious we have opposing point of views on the subject. You are entrenched in your religious beliefs as am I. You have your opinion as do I that does not invalidate them but rather enforces them. I have been on both sides of this issue and made an informed decision.
A question for you..Taking away the moral implications, why is murder wrong ?
@adoptedoneathotmail Murder is wrong because it destroys the species and weakens the group. By weakening the group you've made the whole group vulnerable. By making the group vulnerable the group turns on you to keep the group strong in future. In other words selfish biological reasons.
@HobbsO Or does it strenthen it ? the lame and weakest animals are routinley targeted and killed in the wild by predators thereby strenthing the whole..a form of natural selection. They would rather let someone else be the meal..as you called it 'selfish biological reasons'...try again
@adoptedoneathotmail When a male lion takes over a pride he murders the cubs of the previous male to set himself up as the leader and procreater of the pride.
@adoptedoneathotmail Killing something for food is I agree natural selection. Lions killing cubs is also natural selection. However a strong male lion killing a female pride member would serve no purpose and would weaken the pride. Hence natural selection has killed off any lions that do. Also people are not lions. I don't need to kill a man to eat him, I don't need to kill a man's babies because I feel threatened. If I did I would weaken the group and be expelled.
@HobbsO people are classified as mamals and that in turn classifies us as animals as are lions. Look at history of the mass murders of people by a few crazies..I will also include the Christians in Rome..set on fire , killed by beasts in the Collisium..etc.. That did not weaken the species
@HobbsO Morality is not based from man or evolution ..as we've seen man has a propensity to be amoral. We (man) kill each other for gain we steal we debase all for ourselves..even with morals..how sad we animals are.And we are animals since the theory is all life had the same starting point..we (all living things) have the same amount of time since the beginning to evolve at the same rate
@adoptedoneathotmail And yet society as a whole balances out the equation. The law itself is based on evolutionary morality. If it was based on the bible adultery and worshipping any other religion would be illegal.
@HobbsO Just shows GOD knows you cannot legislate morals.( the 10 Commandments ).just set standards for people to try and follow...Adultrey is immoral..not necessarily illegal..well, maybe in some states..You can worship any religion you want.. I choose mine and you choose yours (editorially) we all have our own beliefs
BTW the 10 commandments don't include slavery, execution and genocide because in the next chapter that's exactly what God tell them to do to there enemies. Just saying.
@adoptedoneathotmail I personally see it as wrong to steal someones seat when they stand up while others use the "5 second rule" to steal a seat. Our morals differ but it has no correlation to beliefs.
I'm a Christian, but I know that Atheists and agnostics don't "laugh at evidence" or anything of the sort. How about some respect for people with different beliefs? People believe what they believe for reasons. Plus, these videos come across as super arrogant in how they are presented...sigh.
Atheists have no inherent connection to either communism or "the gay gene."
Nature _loves_ a vacuum: most of the universe is "empty" space.
Finally, a position on metaphysics isn't necessarily religious. Neither is belief or faith inherently religious. Atheism is a position regarding the metaphysical god concept, which is often accounted for by religions, but not always. Philosophy is not religion.
Secular Humanism is not atheism. Secular Humanism may be considered a religion, but other atheistic religions exist as well (think eastern religions like Buddhism).
Atheists number more than 2% of the population; figures usually range from 10% - 20%.
Atheists do not laugh at evidence. Often, an adherence to rationalism and skepticism leads people to atheism; both demand evidence.
Man-made global warming isn't a belief, it's a fact proven through scientific...
Just to point it out, not all atheists fit that stereotype. Hell. Some of us support Ron Paul, realize that capitalism is far better than communism and have respect for human life. Many of us realize that global warming is a complete fraud and I could go on.
At the same time I agree that Atheism is a religion, as I consider religion to simply be a person or group of people's set of beliefs. When it comes to god, neither of us have proof of our beliefs.
Sorry, man, you make some great videos but this one is a real stinker. Just because some idiots thought they had the authority to make it a law doesn't make it correct, right or true. Use your head! Don't be a mouthpiece against all reason.
Wait so your whole argument is that the separation of church and state should apply to a 'religion' that has no holy book, no dominant deity, and no common congregation? The separation of church and state was not designed to promote atheism, but to maintain neutrality. I don't see Obama claiming there is no god, I see him attempting to remain neutral while upholding the constitution, you know, the thing conservatives love to wrap themselves in when the word "gun" is mentioned.
You gotta be careful when you come into the atheist/homosexual church (Youtube) and start opening the windows and throwing the light on them. Funny how every other video you put out has overwhelming support except these. Keep up the good work.
I am atheist and I don't worship humans. I don't worship anything. You are an idiot, sir. This guy is so full of shit that it keeps coming out of his mouth, in all of these videos. Except the one about Ron Paul. Everyone should vote Ron Paul.
So by that logic a blank piece of paper is the same as an essay. Guess we need to get rid of all those empty walls in public buildings as it's clearly breaking the wall between church and state. Oh yeah that's fucking stupid.....EPIC EPIC EPIC FAIL.
I sure as hell do have freedom from religion. Nobody can change that because it's a free damn country. Atheism is not a religion as far as I'm concerned, but it is a system of belief. They have no higher power. Big fucking deal right? Well apparently some people want to force their fag jesus in our faces and shit. Fuck anyone who does that! Smoke weed, do coke and drop out of school to become a prostitute. I'm done.
@TheMrgoku1985 Agnostic is a Greek term but there is a slightly more modern latin term that is its equivilant, and that term is "ignoramus". Read it and weep.
So i would agree with you, most atheists are ignoramuses.
You know, the word 'agnostic' comes from the same word from which we get 'ignoramus'. You call yourself a self-professed agnostic, and you go around calling others retarded. Irony!
FOR THE RECORD..... This show is laughably stupid and tragically representative of the arrogant ignorance many in western society hold up as heroic.
FOR THE RECORD..... This channel is one of the most obvious tools for mass propaganda (Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view) out there.
FOR THE RECORD......Everything stated here can readily be shown to be malicious by anyone with intelligence and integrity.
@IceBlood888 What "truth" is there in the words someone else puts into your mouth? I cannot tell you what you believe or don't, but if I were to talk about what you believe to others & contradict your own words so as to deceive them, then this is malicious intent. In law that is defamation of character A.K.A Slander & Libel.
The video is talking in generality about a group of people whom only have 1 disbelief in common, this is bigotry trying to masquerade as objective observation & is untrue.
@student123456 As a typical liberal or atheist would do, you have reacted to opposition by providing no counter evidence and instead using baseless insults...like a child. Woul you kindly GTFO?
he's just saying that your own rules should apply to you. How is that malicious? What's malicious and divisive is your snotty, egocentric attitude. Get off your high horse for once and play by your own rules if you expect to have any credibility or respect at all.
Sorry, but that's inaccurate. The author is essentially arguing that Philosophy and Religion are the same thing (e.g. "But even _that_ position is a religious one."), and supports this erroneous statement by conflating atheism with Secular Humanism.
Yes, I do. First off, the atheist does not claim that no gods exist; atheism is merely a rejection of the theist's claim that at least one god exists. But I am not only an atheist, I'm a strong atheist as well, which means I _do_ claim that no gods exist. There is little faith in this, since it relies on the objective reality we all experience and has few assumptions, all of which are scientifically possible.
But you also admit that you take for granted, by faith, that there is nothing outside of the observable, objective reality, and this is a claim which is challenged by physics today.. we used to think there are only 4 dimensions to reality, but there are now provably at least 10, 6 of which can only be 'inferred' or indirectly derived. Point I'm trying to make is the notion that reality only comprises what we can observe and study is obsolete.
Well, not quite. I understand that our perception is flawed, but we have no other means of knowing about the world except through rational pursuits (i.e. sound theories tested against our observation). I'll accept new theories as Philosophy and Science provide evidence, but I'm not going to assume the supernatural exists when all claimed supernatural phenomena have been debunked.
No source other than J. Lewis’ accreditation can be found for this quote.
Lincoln did say: "In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book." -- September 7, 1864 and
"I do not think I could myself, be brought to support a man for office, whom I knew to be an open enemy of, and scoffer at, religion." -- July 31, 1846
Secular Humanism and Atheism are not at all the same thing. Also, just because something is determined by a court does not make it right. By that logic, you would agree with abortion. Also, atheists do not neccessarily have anything in common other than a belief in God. Anything else is generalizing and stereotyping.
Not true, many atheists, including myself, reject the idea that global warming (or climate change) is a phenomenon in which humanity plays a significant role namely because there is little evidence to support that position.
Likewise, the political ideology of an atheist is not set in stone, many atheists may be liberal because the conservative GOP has made an unholy union with evangelicals over the past fifty years and represents a serious threat to the separation of church and state.
I am agnostic, i don't believe in the existence or non existence of any god (s) he could exist but he also may not. Kind of ironic he bashes anyone that don't hold his belief.
Lack of faith =/= Faith. It's really simple. While you have atheists who are assertive in their belief that there is no god(s), but that does not make them religious. And I have no understanding of the worship of humans, that truly isn't what secular humanism is about. Anyone who could access Google could figure that one out.
@kvash3154 Buddhism is a religion because it has set doctrines. Atheism does not. It doesn't require faith, it requires the lack thereof. In example, I do not believe there is a God because I have no valid reason to. If proof were found and was measurable, I would believe in one. The same applies from most atheists.
I have found a lot of this guy's videos to be offensive, non-fact based, and bias...But this video is the ultimate evidence that this man is a complete moron. There is only one thing that Atheist have in common, and that is they don't believe in a god or gods. Its people like this that spew ignorance keeping the human race from evolving.
Also, separation of church and state is law. Bronze age cattle herding beliefs have no business in today's world. Look at what it's doing to our nation as it is. We have the Republicans trying to imprison women for having miscarriages, Democrats trying to abolish religion because they're sick of it's bullshit and no-one listens to the only intelligent person in the room: the Independent. We don't need any more morons running this country, least of all the Palin clones that the Republicans love.
Dude, you sound so real, it's hilarious!...wait...You're serious? ....Dude, what the fuck is the "gay gene"? Seriously, sweetie, if you're going to point fingers, maybe you should read your own stupid book first. That nasty little thing is filled with pointless genocide, incest, polygamy, slavery and cannibalism. Oh and honey? Using that cheap effect doesn't make you look any smarter. Just sayin'.
@kvash3154 "religion: the belief in a supernatural deity that controls or presides over life on Earth". No, secular humanism is a belief system that people can be good without fairy tales. Atheism is the knowledge that there is no god.
@SkelanimalKitteh religions are world views. Buddhism has no supreme God/ first mover, and its still a religion, in fact its closer to secularism in that it focuses on the self. Secularist's believe in the fairy tale of moral good/evil in a natural materialist reality. Atheist do not "know" there is no God, but "believe" there is no God. Its a faith.
@kvash3154 Actually, Buddhism is a belief system and a beautiful one at that. There is no fairy tale that the human race can be good without god, because it's a fact. Look at the prisons and all those who do such terrible things. And what do they do it in the name of? Their cult. Their "religion". Atheists KNOW there is no god, and until there is viable proof of one, we will stick to our knowledge. Have fun in your fairy tales, if only I had the brain damage to think as you do.
@SkelanimalKitteh Religion's are belief systems that effect a person's world view, buddhism is a religion. People can't do good/evil if there is no such thing as good/evil, its just a fantasy that comes from our biology and culture, if natural materialism is a fact. Natural materialism is a philosophy, not a fact, so you don't know there isn't a God. Is your argument's so weak that you need to strengthen your case with insults? Its a inept tactic.
'According to US law...' Newsflash - sometimes the law is stupid and we have to change it (slavery, women's rights to vote, shit like that).
'Faith of the Atheist' sounds as stupid as...
Heat of the ice
Guns of the pacifist
Dark skin of the albino
Angles of the circle
Brightness of the black hole
Just kidding, black holes are actually very bright since they trap a shitload of light, but you can't see it from the outside. Wait what was I saying? O yea! This guy's a CUNT.
STRICTLY SPEAKING Christianity is NOT a religion, religion consists of doing good works or actions to make god let you into heaven. Christianity is a faith, we do not believe in doing works for entrance into heaven.
skim less, there is a difference in a "religious belief" and a "religion". and yes secular humanism is a religion, and yes catholicism is a religion, but no theism is not a religion, nor is atheism.
Would the OP at least concede that without the legal definition of atheism, that atheism is not actually a religion? Or would that just take too much away from what he was trying to really get at here... spreading rhetoric as well as parroting a political and ideologically motivated agenda.
@bkr0127 Jesus would warn all sinners and nonbelievers of the coming judgement and hell. You'll find that Jesus talked just as much about hell as he did of heaven if you read the Holy Scriptures. He told the scribes and pharisees many times, "Woe to you!" He publically condemned them in front of crowds. He will cone again, and judge the sinful world with a sword (His Word) and with that sword he will cast all sinners into hell. That is what Jesus would do.
@VanDaRifleman Weren't those scribes and pharisees that jesus condemned the types of people who would preach "Holy Scriptures" to justify their actions. (by the way, since I'm sure you probably won't understand the implication, I am comparing you to the pharisees)
@bkr0127 Rightly so, but they obeyed the letter of the law to glorify themselves, while violating the spirit of the law. Jesus obeyed the law because He was not a law unto Himself, and he worked perfectly under the law to glorify His Father in heaven and to do His Father's work. Woe to you, foolish bkr0127. I profit nothing from using my God's righteousness to prove you wrong. Duties are ours; results are God's. -John Quincy Adams
@AndyMacOP Aww man, you got me. I didn't realize he wants people to arm themselves and talk about overthrowing the tyrannical, socialist, wanna take your guns Obama just to make a "statement." Now I remember reading about Jesus walking around Rome with a sword making "statements." You all are so much more clever than me.
Atheisms does not rely on any ancient text or scripture.
It will emphasize the importance of evidence, but unlike mainstream religions is more than happy to say that it doesn't have the answers to everything.
@tohtoo i understand what you mean by ancient text. the bible was written thousands of years ago. but it's the Author that matters. just because it wuz written so long ago does not mean it isn't just as effective today. it most certainly is. and what evidence do you speak of?? i see no evidence. and why wudnt yu want to believe in a religion tht DOES hav all the answers instead of one that isn't quite sure?
@tohtoo I think you might be confusing atheism with agnosticism. Or maybe Deism. Also, how many atheist's cite derrida, marx, frued or nietzsche, and how is that not an example of citing an 'ancient' text?
I suppose the only common ground amongst all the Atheists you mentioned, is the non-belief in a creator, from there on things can change according to one's view on order and morality.
Atheism has no reference nor scripture one can turn to for guidance, however I believe we're fortunate enough to live in an era were information is readily available for those of who wish to pursue the truth.
@tohtoo So Atheists are stubornly stuck on their own? Anyway, my original point was more why is it alright to cite an author's opinion on g(G)od(s) b/c he is from the 1700 AD and not 2000 BC? You are still citing an old source, why not the older one? Why not one that others have found trustworthy for millenia? Why do all the work yourself?
@mssnrykd. I haven't cited any old source, I've merely responded to your and thedutchman01 comments.
One could also argue creationists stubbornness for ignoring the evidence that presents itself in front of them. As I mentioned previously, my opinions were based on Abrahamic based texts.
The age of these texts is irrelevant (as far as I'm concerned, they could have been written last week); it’s the content within these texts that contradict what we know as factual today.
@tohtoo "... the content within these texts that contradict what we know as factual today." What contradiction? How do we know something is factual? Just trying to stimulate critical thinking.
@tohtoo The claim that atheism doesn't rely on "ancient texts" or Scripture doesn't make it less religious. There is no definition of "religion" that absolutly demans adherence to "ancient texts" or Scripture.
The word "religion" can be interpreted as "worldview" or "way of thinking". Believing that the universe was not created and life was not created, but just "happened" IS a religious view because it is a.,..... worldview and a way of thinking.
@sergiomats. The thing the drives Atheism is scientific evidence.
Unlikely blind faith, if the time ever comes along when something seems more scientifically viable than the Big Bang, then the science will “Change” accordingly.
Unfortunately Abrahamic based religions will still insist that god created “Eve from Adam's rib, only after he complained about being lonely".
@tohtoo Really? What is the positive scientifc evidence that God doesn't exist? Don't tell me "because there is no evidence", bkz if you say that, then you contradict yoursef since believing in something because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE is not the same as believeing in something BECAUSE there is positive evidence.
share us your atheistic "wisdom" and shows tha scientific evidence for the non-existence of God.
@sergiomats> Tone it down there big fella, you not really making a lot of sense.
You’re suggesting I prove the non-existence of some that is not there.... Hhmmm
It's not how it works sergiomats. It's YOU who needs to prove his/her/its existence
I'm assuming by your passionate reply that you still believe that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old and that people walked with dinosaurs or maybe that the earth is the centre of the Universe and that the sun revolves around us.
@tohtoo Wait. You said you "followed the evidence", and that "evidence" suports your atheism. What is the evidence that suports atheism (ie, God does not exist) ?
You see, son, you now have to choose:
1) Either you backpadel and say that you don't follow the evidence but the ABSENCE of evidence
2) Or you provide the evidence that makes you THINK God is not Real.
I will wait eagerly, trying not to laugh too much at the picture of you scratching your head in despair.
As mentioned earlier, its scientific evidence that has proven the age of the earth beyond what is preached in Abrahamic texts.
Read up on NASA's Hubble Space Telescope (you might learn something)
Its scientific evidence that has shown fossil records verifying evolution.
It's scientific evidence that has shown us all known forms of life are based on the same fundamental biochemical organization: (genetic information encoded in DNA).
Their shape? c'mon, any idiot knows if you bury something in the ground for a really long time it deteriorates...
The level of earth their under? Water, mud, hurricanes... those take stuff and bury it DEEP in the ground, much faster than a inchworm on a Monday. Meaning, a hippo had a bad day and got caught under a hurricane, his bones are buried deep enough in the ground he must've died upteen million years ago, when really, it was last week! VERY REAL SCENARIO!
Aww, come on. Is that the best you can do? You said [hilariously]: "The thing the drives Atheism is scientific evidence." *chuckle* I asked you which scientific evidence "drives" the belief that God doesn't exist (i.e., atheism) you say that it isn't really the evidence FOR atheism that drives it, but your alledged LACK OF EVIDENCE for theism.
So which is it? Does the evidence drive atheism or the absence of evidence (no evidence) drives atheism?
The absence of evidence that God exists supports Atheism and scientific evidence whether it be biological, cosmological, archeological overwhelmingly supports my non-belief in a creator.
Wait! You said that the evidence SUPORTS atheism. Atheism is "God doesn't exist". Show me any evidence that suports "God doesn't exist".
As I predicted, you are backpedaling. NOw you say that is not the evidence FOR atheism, but the imaginary lack of evidence FOR Theism. SO you don't follow the evidence. You follow the ABSENCE of evidence for God. Your faith is based on a negation. NO wonder militant atheists are so negative and obnoxious.
@tohtoo I don't know what atheists you've been talking to. I guess you're one of the few these days that are actually intellectually honest.
I'm not a religious person. The rise of the righteous Fundamental Atheists is obvious. Just because the Atheist King, Richard Dawkins, says it isn't a religion doesn't make it true.
@mtb416. I think it’s great that in a democratic society, people are comfortable enough to question the Church, Mosque or Synagogue.
As for the “The rise of the righteous Fundamental Atheists” I don't remember Dawkins ever threatening anyone or suggesting that they'll burn in some sort of Atheistic hell-fire for not believing the things he does.
@tohtoo I agree and I'm all for questioning. Of course, in America atheists, the fundamental ones, only really hate on Christianity or Judeo-Christian values. They tend to leave the far more violent, misogynistic, and hateful religion of Islam alone.
Of course he never said anything about some "Atheist hell", that would be contradictory to his belief system. He's wrong about atheism not during into some righteous fundamentalist movement. It most certainly it.
Saying that atheism is a religion is like saying that bald is a hair color.
carultch 1 week ago
@carultch Atheism is a religion, because they define themselves with title, by which they (as a group) "religiously" follow within a set of beliefs.
rcnoe71 3 days ago
lol lol lol i can't tell if your being funny or republican just going to say both but really why bo most conservative not like separation of church and state I think we have all seen how well church and state work together for Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Afghanistan and lets not forget medieval europe (witch kabob anyone). I find myshelf hateing my own country its just falling apart and the people in power are fighting over who's in power. Pathetic
Letitallfuckingburn 2 weeks ago
How the fuck is Atheism a religion. The name Theism means faith. Atheism means no faith. like social and asocial.
xRedStingx 2 weeks ago
@xRedStingx Theism means belief in a God or creator, Atheism means a belief that their is no God (must be a belief, because it can't be held absolute where one doesn't have infinite knowledge.) In this case, a non-belief is belief, and where they define themselves by a word representing the non-belief, it is a religion.
rcnoe71 3 days ago
@rcnoe71 A-Theism... AAAAAA-Theism!! Like Social and A-Social! When you're A-Social, means you're NOT social. A-Theism, means you're NOT a Theist(Believer).
xRedStingx 2 days ago
@xRedStingx And what he was saying was no matter if you believe it is or not, "The Law" states that it is, which was upheld by the Supreme Court.
rcnoe71 3 days ago
dumb ass american
CharlyRaaad 2 weeks ago
@CharlyRaaad every country has one
Letitallfuckingburn 2 weeks ago
Are you seriously implying that Atheists worship Charles Manson? Unlike 'religions' atheism has no set doctrine so to say we all believe those things the video says we believe is inherently wrong.
CueBaudcot 2 weeks ago
Wait a minute.. This video is so ridiculous, I don't even know where to start... Firstly, non-belief is NOT the same as belief. Not believing in god is a religion just like not collecting stamps is a hobby. Right at the end he says that the separation of church and state should apply to atheists as much as the religious... WTF!? That's what we've been saying for YEARS! Are they finally getting the picture? We don't want religious zealots having political power over ANYONE!
BannorPhil 2 weeks ago
with everything you're applying to your record, your "record" is so factually off that to call it a record is being generous.
The law you site is actually a passage of 'obiter dictum' mean "said in passing" and is not legally binding, it's just the judges opinion. And the judge was very very wrong, secular humanism is not a religion, it's a philosophy, religious humanism is a religion.
And it takes 0 faith to say: "I don't see any evidence for a god" if you genuinely have not.
satanisthetruegod666 2 weeks ago
This video is complete and utter shit.
knowthetruth1492 3 weeks ago
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Cenamark2 3 weeks ago
There's far more proof that God is man made, than self made.
Cenamark2 3 weeks ago
@Cenamark2 Hey, just curious, how does a consciousness rise out of brain tissue?
MosinManiac76254 3 weeks ago
@MosinManiac76254 What do I look like a brainiologist?
Cenamark2 3 weeks ago
@Cenamark2 I said just curious.
MosinManiac76254 3 weeks ago
facepalm....
Gaytheist13 3 weeks ago
I like all his videos..some people disLIKE the truth
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
Preach it Brother! Preach!
arivas713 1 month ago
Christians kill people over religion retard. Atheists aren't a religion, they just think you're an idiot blinded by your own misfortune.
Also odd statistics. 2%, what are you FOX News. 2% in Turkey maybe. Across the board it's more like 14% and 15% of Americans are atheist and rising. All you did was take out the percentage of non-religious people. No God genius. A...Theist...NO...GOD.
HobbsO 1 month ago
@HobbsO No..people kill people over religion athiest are also involved trhe Supreme court ruled..yes they are..take it up with them..how's it feel to be classified as a religion..gotta love irony
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO What are you watching ? msnbc ? where did you pull your figures out of?
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail What are you watching FOX. Oh wait you are. Here, check out the "Eurobarometer Poll 2005 religion". Religion has also dropped since then. In 2005 the European average was 18% atheist and 27% agnostic. Europe consists of 731 million people. That's over 10% of the world. Times that by the 18% and you do get 1.9%. Add in Vietman (81%), Japan (65%), South Korea (30%) ONLY and you already have 229.3 mill Atheists (3.2% of the World). Also USA Atheists (4%)
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO Yes now I understand where you got your information, a completely unbias poll on a completely unbias website from completely unbias sources..Don't watch TV..my father called it an 'idiot box' and seeing some of these posts....I believe it. The question I have for you is..why are you here if you don't feel he knows what he is talking about..I mean the genuis who puts this out
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail Why would a poll by the EU be bias thicko. Anyway someone has to fight stupidity. He encourages it and helps it along. Atheists are a religion...right. He's a real smart arse this one (note: sarcasm. I know you need sarcasm noted because you believe this crap^)
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO He is here to fight stupidity..and again..because you did not comprehend the first time around maybe a slower typing would suffice. T h e S u p r e m e C o u r t r u l e d i t i s a r e l i g i o n. Thank you for your opinion..because thats all it is.
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail Slower typing. What are you retarded. Anyway, by shear dictionary definition this is a thick ruling because Atheists have no:
1. Set or morals
2. Forms or practice
3. Any kind of system of preaching or religious leader
4. Purpose or cause of the universe
Those thing constitute a religion. Therefore the Supreme Court (thankfully have no power in my country and) can suck it.
Oh and no. This guy breeds Fox News lies like bacteria.
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO lol ..I can see why my humor was wasted on you.
1. morals of ME
2.Attack any belief system different from my own
3. Richard Dawkins
4. purpose of ME
You fit into your definition.
I would rather believe a member of Mensa ( do you understand what that is ? ) than in the sad sad lies you believe in
Thank ou for your opinion
Cheers !
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail
1.Personal morals aren't joint atheistic morals. They are just morals based on the selfish gene.
2. Not a form of practice. Forms of practice are things like praying and going to church.
3. Not a religious leader. People don't look at Richard Dawkins like an atheist pope.
4. That doesn't even make sense.
I am a member of Mensa, I just don't use it to validate an argument.
You believe in God because the Bible told you too...because God told you to...etc
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO 1.There are no 'personal morals' only morals.and the'gene' is non-existant
2. A form of practice is just that..the continuation in said form ie Attacking the belief of others different then your own.
3. Richard Dawkins IS worshiped as a godlike figure.
4. The purpose of the universe is for ME. It was created for Me.
Your claim to Mensa is suspect. I believe in GOD because I choose to..logic points to someone greater than myself. You believe what you do because YOU choose to . .
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail
1. There are personal morals. To say otherwise is just ignorant.
2. Like I said, not a practice.
3. No he isn't. He is not the atheist prophet because such a thing would conflict with atheism.
4. No that Christianity with Adam and Eve. We don't know how it was created, we don't know (or care) why it was created and we certainly don't know what our purpose (if any) we have.
Logic points to science and reason. God points to fairies.
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO Science and reason does point to GOD having said ,that it is obvious we have opposing point of views on the subject. You are entrenched in your religious beliefs as am I. You have your opinion as do I that does not invalidate them but rather enforces them. I have been on both sides of this issue and made an informed decision.
A question for you..Taking away the moral implications, why is murder wrong ?
Cheers
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail Murder is wrong because it destroys the species and weakens the group. By weakening the group you've made the whole group vulnerable. By making the group vulnerable the group turns on you to keep the group strong in future. In other words selfish biological reasons.
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO Or does it strenthen it ? the lame and weakest animals are routinley targeted and killed in the wild by predators thereby strenthing the whole..a form of natural selection. They would rather let someone else be the meal..as you called it 'selfish biological reasons'...try again
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail When a male lion takes over a pride he murders the cubs of the previous male to set himself up as the leader and procreater of the pride.
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail Killing something for food is I agree natural selection. Lions killing cubs is also natural selection. However a strong male lion killing a female pride member would serve no purpose and would weaken the pride. Hence natural selection has killed off any lions that do. Also people are not lions. I don't need to kill a man to eat him, I don't need to kill a man's babies because I feel threatened. If I did I would weaken the group and be expelled.
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
@HobbsO people are classified as mamals and that in turn classifies us as animals as are lions. Look at history of the mass murders of people by a few crazies..I will also include the Christians in Rome..set on fire , killed by beasts in the Collisium..etc.. That did not weaken the species
adoptedoneathotmail 2 weeks ago
@HobbsO And I don't want to point out the obviousnes of babies..not here
adoptedoneathotmail 2 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail Morality is based on evolution. Sooooooo...
HobbsO 2 weeks ago
@HobbsO Morality is not based from man or evolution ..as we've seen man has a propensity to be amoral. We (man) kill each other for gain we steal we debase all for ourselves..even with morals..how sad we animals are.And we are animals since the theory is all life had the same starting point..we (all living things) have the same amount of time since the beginning to evolve at the same rate
adoptedoneathotmail 2 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail And yet society as a whole balances out the equation. The law itself is based on evolutionary morality. If it was based on the bible adultery and worshipping any other religion would be illegal.
HobbsO 2 weeks ago
@HobbsO Just shows GOD knows you cannot legislate morals.( the 10 Commandments ).just set standards for people to try and follow...Adultrey is immoral..not necessarily illegal..well, maybe in some states..You can worship any religion you want.. I choose mine and you choose yours (editorially) we all have our own beliefs
adoptedoneathotmail 2 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail Because morals are human nature. Finally you understand.
BTW the 10 commandments don't include slavery, execution and genocide because in the next chapter that's exactly what God tell them to do to there enemies. Just saying.
HobbsO 2 weeks ago
@HobbsO The only reason murder is wrong is morality dictactes it is wrong
adoptedoneathotmail 2 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail "Science and reason does [sic] point to GOD..."
How so?
ArkyneII 2 weeks ago
@ArkyneII fisrt and second laws of thermodynamics
adoptedoneathotmail 2 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail How is it that they "point" to your god's existence?
ArkyneII 2 weeks ago
@HobbsO Can you please give an example of personal morals?
adoptedoneathotmail 3 weeks ago
@adoptedoneathotmail I personally see it as wrong to steal someones seat when they stand up while others use the "5 second rule" to steal a seat. Our morals differ but it has no correlation to beliefs.
HobbsO 3 weeks ago
Molotov Yes, You Are Funny :D
ari1234a 1 month ago
I'm a Christian, but I know that Atheists and agnostics don't "laugh at evidence" or anything of the sort. How about some respect for people with different beliefs? People believe what they believe for reasons. Plus, these videos come across as super arrogant in how they are presented...sigh.
SapphirePanorama 1 month ago in playlist More videos from illuminatitv
procedures.
Atheists have no inherent connection to either communism or "the gay gene."
Nature _loves_ a vacuum: most of the universe is "empty" space.
Finally, a position on metaphysics isn't necessarily religious. Neither is belief or faith inherently religious. Atheism is a position regarding the metaphysical god concept, which is often accounted for by religions, but not always. Philosophy is not religion.
ultramerton 1 month ago
False claims in this video:
Secular Humanism is not atheism. Secular Humanism may be considered a religion, but other atheistic religions exist as well (think eastern religions like Buddhism).
Atheists number more than 2% of the population; figures usually range from 10% - 20%.
Atheists do not laugh at evidence. Often, an adherence to rationalism and skepticism leads people to atheism; both demand evidence.
Man-made global warming isn't a belief, it's a fact proven through scientific...
ultramerton 1 month ago
I also find the 666 dislikes funny.
But seriously I think you need to lay off the stereotypes a little.
darknessunender 1 month ago
Just to point it out, not all atheists fit that stereotype. Hell. Some of us support Ron Paul, realize that capitalism is far better than communism and have respect for human life. Many of us realize that global warming is a complete fraud and I could go on.
At the same time I agree that Atheism is a religion, as I consider religion to simply be a person or group of people's set of beliefs. When it comes to god, neither of us have proof of our beliefs.
darknessunender 1 month ago
Sorry, man, you make some great videos but this one is a real stinker. Just because some idiots thought they had the authority to make it a law doesn't make it correct, right or true. Use your head! Don't be a mouthpiece against all reason.
ByteMeDammit 1 month ago
I can't prove if God exists or not. But I can't prove or disprove whether there's an invisible dragon living in my garage either.
acronus 1 month ago
Wait so your whole argument is that the separation of church and state should apply to a 'religion' that has no holy book, no dominant deity, and no common congregation? The separation of church and state was not designed to promote atheism, but to maintain neutrality. I don't see Obama claiming there is no god, I see him attempting to remain neutral while upholding the constitution, you know, the thing conservatives love to wrap themselves in when the word "gun" is mentioned.
xGreydaysx 1 month ago
this guy is a fool.
kartorus 1 month ago
You gotta be careful when you come into the atheist/homosexual church (Youtube) and start opening the windows and throwing the light on them. Funny how every other video you put out has overwhelming support except these. Keep up the good work.
waytruthlifedisciple 1 month ago
I am atheist and I don't worship humans. I don't worship anything. You are an idiot, sir. This guy is so full of shit that it keeps coming out of his mouth, in all of these videos. Except the one about Ron Paul. Everyone should vote Ron Paul.
tbutler419 1 month ago
So by that logic a blank piece of paper is the same as an essay. Guess we need to get rid of all those empty walls in public buildings as it's clearly breaking the wall between church and state. Oh yeah that's fucking stupid.....EPIC EPIC EPIC FAIL.
Serpent0fEden 2 months ago
I sure as hell do have freedom from religion. Nobody can change that because it's a free damn country. Atheism is not a religion as far as I'm concerned, but it is a system of belief. They have no higher power. Big fucking deal right? Well apparently some people want to force their fag jesus in our faces and shit. Fuck anyone who does that! Smoke weed, do coke and drop out of school to become a prostitute. I'm done.
HailSatan2009 2 months ago
Some people have a really pompous way of being wrong...
webon60 2 months ago
for the record:
the only faith atheists have, is in the intelligence of the human mind and progress.
for the record:
yes athiesm is as much a religion as a just being a theist is "without ascribing to a particular religion".
for the record:
this IDIOT christian is basing his argument on a legal perspective! not a philosophical one as this matter should actually be about.
islamconstitution 2 months ago
I can only assume that this program is intended to be satirical in nature.
TheManWithOpenEyes 3 months ago
silly atheists
DeJay17Revolution 3 months ago
Right on!
drakee826 3 months ago
I have one question. Is atheism a scientific fact? You know where I’m going with this so no need to continue.
whatmeworryireadmad 4 months ago
Fuck Liberals and Conservatives. I make my own decisions
WorldMilitia 4 months ago
This is wrong Most atheist are agnostics who Don't blieve in the gods.
The burden of proof is on you to give proof for your personal god. We clime we "dont know".
I don't worship anything. You are retarded.
TheMrgoku1985 4 months ago 2
@TheMrgoku1985 Agnostic is a Greek term but there is a slightly more modern latin term that is its equivilant, and that term is "ignoramus". Read it and weep.
So i would agree with you, most atheists are ignoramuses.
mutabrev 1 month ago
@TheMrgoku1985
You know, the word 'agnostic' comes from the same word from which we get 'ignoramus'. You call yourself a self-professed agnostic, and you go around calling others retarded. Irony!
DraughtOfPeace 1 month ago
FOR THE RECORD..... This show is laughably stupid and tragically representative of the arrogant ignorance many in western society hold up as heroic.
FOR THE RECORD..... This channel is one of the most obvious tools for mass propaganda (Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view) out there.
FOR THE RECORD......Everything stated here can readily be shown to be malicious by anyone with intelligence and integrity.
student123456 4 months ago 2
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@student123456
for the record:
the only faith atheists have, is in the intelligence of the human mind and progress.
for the record:
yes athiesm is as much a religion as a just being a theist is "without ascribing to a particular religion".
for the record:
this IDIOT christian is basing his argument on a legal perspective! not a philosophical one as this matter should actually be about.
islamconstitution 2 months ago
@student123456 FOR THE RECORD... I'm sorry the truth bothers you ='(
IceBlood888 2 months ago
@IceBlood888 What "truth" is there in the words someone else puts into your mouth? I cannot tell you what you believe or don't, but if I were to talk about what you believe to others & contradict your own words so as to deceive them, then this is malicious intent. In law that is defamation of character A.K.A Slander & Libel.
The video is talking in generality about a group of people whom only have 1 disbelief in common, this is bigotry trying to masquerade as objective observation & is untrue.
GodsOfTheModernWorld 2 months ago
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FrankDaTank1218 1 month ago
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@student123456 As a typical liberal or atheist would do, you have reacted to opposition by providing no counter evidence and instead using baseless insults...like a child. Woul you kindly GTFO?
FrankDaTank1218 1 month ago
@student123456
he's just saying that your own rules should apply to you. How is that malicious? What's malicious and divisive is your snotty, egocentric attitude. Get off your high horse for once and play by your own rules if you expect to have any credibility or respect at all.
DraughtOfPeace 1 month ago
@DraughtOfPeace
Sorry, but that's inaccurate. The author is essentially arguing that Philosophy and Religion are the same thing (e.g. "But even _that_ position is a religious one."), and supports this erroneous statement by conflating atheism with Secular Humanism.
ultramerton 1 month ago
@ultramerton
He's saying that it takes as much faith to say and believe that there is no God as it does to believe that there is one. You disagree?
DraughtOfPeace 1 month ago
@DraughtOfPeace
Yes, I do. First off, the atheist does not claim that no gods exist; atheism is merely a rejection of the theist's claim that at least one god exists. But I am not only an atheist, I'm a strong atheist as well, which means I _do_ claim that no gods exist. There is little faith in this, since it relies on the objective reality we all experience and has few assumptions, all of which are scientifically possible.
ultramerton 1 month ago
@ultramerton
But you also admit that you take for granted, by faith, that there is nothing outside of the observable, objective reality, and this is a claim which is challenged by physics today.. we used to think there are only 4 dimensions to reality, but there are now provably at least 10, 6 of which can only be 'inferred' or indirectly derived. Point I'm trying to make is the notion that reality only comprises what we can observe and study is obsolete.
DraughtOfPeace 1 month ago
@DraughtOfPeace
Well, not quite. I understand that our perception is flawed, but we have no other means of knowing about the world except through rational pursuits (i.e. sound theories tested against our observation). I'll accept new theories as Philosophy and Science provide evidence, but I'm not going to assume the supernatural exists when all claimed supernatural phenomena have been debunked.
ultramerton 1 month ago
this guy is a retard, a funny retard.
geof98 4 months ago
Wow. This guys speaks TRUTH!
SmartAlx 4 months ago
its so sad how many people dont like this vid. he is right. and some people cant acxept that. so they get mad and disslike this vid. fuck you people.
skully724 4 months ago
Religion: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Atheism: The lack of a belief in a superhuman controlling power.
See? Your logic eats itself
Mufflemonsta009 4 months ago
Wow. Just.... wow. I don't quite know what to say about this guy. Wow.
devourerofbabies 5 months ago
No source other than J. Lewis’ accreditation can be found for this quote.
Lincoln did say: "In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book." -- September 7, 1864 and
"I do not think I could myself, be brought to support a man for office, whom I knew to be an open enemy of, and scoffer at, religion." -- July 31, 1846
LogicRulestheDay 5 months ago
Secular Humanism and Atheism are not at all the same thing. Also, just because something is determined by a court does not make it right. By that logic, you would agree with abortion. Also, atheists do not neccessarily have anything in common other than a belief in God. Anything else is generalizing and stereotyping.
GeddyAlexNeil1 5 months ago 2
Not true, many atheists, including myself, reject the idea that global warming (or climate change) is a phenomenon in which humanity plays a significant role namely because there is little evidence to support that position.
Likewise, the political ideology of an atheist is not set in stone, many atheists may be liberal because the conservative GOP has made an unholy union with evangelicals over the past fifty years and represents a serious threat to the separation of church and state.
Dairius624 5 months ago 2
takes a lot of faith to believe those strawman arguments. i can't tell if this video is a parody or not.
777Skeptic 5 months ago
atheists are secular humanists? wrong, i'm atheist and i don't give a damn about humanity....humans that fight was lost a long time.
FREEAMERICANOW69 5 months ago
when does having faith in something, makes that a religion?
the supreme court was wrong.
i have faith that i would win the lottery someday, doesn't make lottery a religion.
FREEAMERICANOW69 5 months ago
Fucking Moron what does secular humanism have to do with atheist? So, so full of shit I can smell it through the internets ....
N0g0dzN0masterz 5 months ago
this video = facepalm
mronionsalad 6 months ago
I am agnostic, i don't believe in the existence or non existence of any god (s) he could exist but he also may not. Kind of ironic he bashes anyone that don't hold his belief.
DubonEngeven 6 months ago
Okay... so since I'm an atheist I'm a socialist who expects government handouts? Fuck you.
MightyBaconSammich 6 months ago
Lack of faith =/= Faith. It's really simple. While you have atheists who are assertive in their belief that there is no god(s), but that does not make them religious. And I have no understanding of the worship of humans, that truly isn't what secular humanism is about. Anyone who could access Google could figure that one out.
AtheistEnthusiast 6 months ago
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@kvash3154 Buddhism is a religion because it has set doctrines. Atheism does not. It doesn't require faith, it requires the lack thereof. In example, I do not believe there is a God because I have no valid reason to. If proof were found and was measurable, I would believe in one. The same applies from most atheists.
AtheistEnthusiast 6 months ago
By not having a religion, you subscribe to the "Atheist Religion"? What kind of circular logic bullshit is this?
darkaiel 6 months ago
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i hate this cunt
smokeathon13 6 months ago
the founding fathers agreed there should be a separation between church and state
FoxtrotActual1 6 months ago
@FoxtrotActual1 Tell me exactly where in the constitution or declaration of independence this shows up.
ThatHaloGuy117 6 months ago
I have found a lot of this guy's videos to be offensive, non-fact based, and bias...But this video is the ultimate evidence that this man is a complete moron. There is only one thing that Atheist have in common, and that is they don't believe in a god or gods. Its people like this that spew ignorance keeping the human race from evolving.
Jack529Teal 6 months ago
Saying atheism is a religion and requires faith is possibly one of the stupidest arguments used by christians on the internet.
LoneRookRS1 6 months ago
Also, separation of church and state is law. Bronze age cattle herding beliefs have no business in today's world. Look at what it's doing to our nation as it is. We have the Republicans trying to imprison women for having miscarriages, Democrats trying to abolish religion because they're sick of it's bullshit and no-one listens to the only intelligent person in the room: the Independent. We don't need any more morons running this country, least of all the Palin clones that the Republicans love.
SkelanimalKitteh 6 months ago
Dude, you sound so real, it's hilarious!...wait...You're serious? ....Dude, what the fuck is the "gay gene"? Seriously, sweetie, if you're going to point fingers, maybe you should read your own stupid book first. That nasty little thing is filled with pointless genocide, incest, polygamy, slavery and cannibalism. Oh and honey? Using that cheap effect doesn't make you look any smarter. Just sayin'.
SkelanimalKitteh 6 months ago
This guy really doesn't have anything better to do with his time? So what exactly did he accomplish with this video besides spreading hate?
jmstew0319 6 months ago
"Atheism is just as much of a religion as not collecting stamps is a hobby."
PlagueMutt 6 months ago 7
Atheism =/= Secular Humanism
Stigmatikk 6 months ago
Secular Humanism, is a religion founded on atheism. Atheism is a world view/belief that there is no God. Atheism is a belief.
kvash3154 6 months ago
@kvash3154 "religion: the belief in a supernatural deity that controls or presides over life on Earth". No, secular humanism is a belief system that people can be good without fairy tales. Atheism is the knowledge that there is no god.
SkelanimalKitteh 6 months ago
@SkelanimalKitteh religions are world views. Buddhism has no supreme God/ first mover, and its still a religion, in fact its closer to secularism in that it focuses on the self. Secularist's believe in the fairy tale of moral good/evil in a natural materialist reality. Atheist do not "know" there is no God, but "believe" there is no God. Its a faith.
kvash3154 6 months ago
@kvash3154 Actually, Buddhism is a belief system and a beautiful one at that. There is no fairy tale that the human race can be good without god, because it's a fact. Look at the prisons and all those who do such terrible things. And what do they do it in the name of? Their cult. Their "religion". Atheists KNOW there is no god, and until there is viable proof of one, we will stick to our knowledge. Have fun in your fairy tales, if only I had the brain damage to think as you do.
SkelanimalKitteh 5 months ago
@SkelanimalKitteh Religion's are belief systems that effect a person's world view, buddhism is a religion. People can't do good/evil if there is no such thing as good/evil, its just a fantasy that comes from our biology and culture, if natural materialism is a fact. Natural materialism is a philosophy, not a fact, so you don't know there isn't a God. Is your argument's so weak that you need to strengthen your case with insults? Its a inept tactic.
kvash3154 5 months ago
Ah, the good old "not collecting stamps is a hobby" argument.
MsCrazyCuckoo 6 months ago
'According to US law...' Newsflash - sometimes the law is stupid and we have to change it (slavery, women's rights to vote, shit like that).
'Faith of the Atheist' sounds as stupid as...
Heat of the ice
Guns of the pacifist
Dark skin of the albino
Angles of the circle
Brightness of the black hole
Just kidding, black holes are actually very bright since they trap a shitload of light, but you can't see it from the outside. Wait what was I saying? O yea! This guy's a CUNT.
MarkArandjus 6 months ago 3
STRICTLY SPEAKING Christianity is NOT a religion, religion consists of doing good works or actions to make god let you into heaven. Christianity is a faith, we do not believe in doing works for entrance into heaven.
Godsgunboy101 6 months ago
i think this video could be some kind of fake, maybe to see how many fallacies of logic could possibly fit into a two minute video
Shamidey 7 months ago
Boy they sure hate you for you speak the truth... Keep it up.... Bless you
enginejhammer 7 months ago
skim less, there is a difference in a "religious belief" and a "religion". and yes secular humanism is a religion, and yes catholicism is a religion, but no theism is not a religion, nor is atheism.
jwfcp 7 months ago
Wait, so the separation of church and state is a bad thing? I'm tired of you religious zealots pushing your beliefs on everyone else.
g0g0sag0 7 months ago
Would the OP at least concede that without the legal definition of atheism, that atheism is not actually a religion? Or would that just take too much away from what he was trying to really get at here... spreading rhetoric as well as parroting a political and ideologically motivated agenda.
Nolgthorn 7 months ago
Man this guy thinks he so smart, but he's actually a fucking moron
Malkohut 7 months ago 3
So I assume this jerk is a Christian, yet he openly advocates gun violence. Man I miss those wwjd bracelets.
bkr0127 7 months ago
@bkr0127 Jesus would warn all sinners and nonbelievers of the coming judgement and hell. You'll find that Jesus talked just as much about hell as he did of heaven if you read the Holy Scriptures. He told the scribes and pharisees many times, "Woe to you!" He publically condemned them in front of crowds. He will cone again, and judge the sinful world with a sword (His Word) and with that sword he will cast all sinners into hell. That is what Jesus would do.
VanDaRifleman 7 months ago
@VanDaRifleman Weren't those scribes and pharisees that jesus condemned the types of people who would preach "Holy Scriptures" to justify their actions. (by the way, since I'm sure you probably won't understand the implication, I am comparing you to the pharisees)
bkr0127 7 months ago
@bkr0127 Rightly so, but they obeyed the letter of the law to glorify themselves, while violating the spirit of the law. Jesus obeyed the law because He was not a law unto Himself, and he worked perfectly under the law to glorify His Father in heaven and to do His Father's work. Woe to you, foolish bkr0127. I profit nothing from using my God's righteousness to prove you wrong. Duties are ours; results are God's. -John Quincy Adams
VanDaRifleman 7 months ago
@bkr0127 Does he actually advocate shooting people? Where is that so I can link to it?
AndyMacOP 7 months ago
@AndyMacOP Aww man, you got me. I didn't realize he wants people to arm themselves and talk about overthrowing the tyrannical, socialist, wanna take your guns Obama just to make a "statement." Now I remember reading about Jesus walking around Rome with a sword making "statements." You all are so much more clever than me.
bkr0127 7 months ago
Atheisms does not rely on any ancient text or scripture.
It will emphasize the importance of evidence, but unlike mainstream religions is more than happy to say that it doesn't have the answers to everything.
tohtoo 8 months ago 16
@tohtoo i understand what you mean by ancient text. the bible was written thousands of years ago. but it's the Author that matters. just because it wuz written so long ago does not mean it isn't just as effective today. it most certainly is. and what evidence do you speak of?? i see no evidence. and why wudnt yu want to believe in a religion tht DOES hav all the answers instead of one that isn't quite sure?
mysecret223 7 months ago
@tohtoo I think you might be confusing atheism with agnosticism. Or maybe Deism. Also, how many atheist's cite derrida, marx, frued or nietzsche, and how is that not an example of citing an 'ancient' text?
mssnrykd 7 months ago
@mssnrykd > It's an interesting point you make!
But can any of those you've mentioned really be considered as ancient?
I probably should have been more specific with reference to the Abrahamic based texts.
tohtoo 7 months ago
@tohtoo
Took me a grand total of 20 secs to find out (google rocks)
Buddhism; founded in aprox 460 b.c. by a prince named Siddhartha Gautama in Nepal.
Confucianism; somewhere in th 6th-5th century BC in China.
I'd say that's pretty ancient... being older then christianity and/or islam.
Do a little bit of research before making a question like that next time please. Googling stuff doesnot take very long.
thedutchman01 6 months ago
@thedutchman01
I'm glad you took to time to research Buddhism and Confucianism but my reply to @mssnrykd had to do, with derrida, marx, frued and nietzsche.
Maybe you could take an additional 20 seconds out of your life to find out who these people are?
tohtoo 6 months ago
@tohtoo
I see now. I was looking at your last remark, and his last remark who you were arguing with.
His last remark before the one I responded to had to do with confucionism and buddhism, so I thought that was what you were remarking about.
I apologize for jumping to a conclusion and ask your forgiveness for that. My sincere apologies.
thedutchman01 6 months ago
@thedutchman01. No hard feelings man.
Cheers
Tohtoo
tohtoo 6 months ago
@tohtoo Fair enough, how about Plato, Socrates or any of the other ancient athiests?
BTW, thank you for actually having a rational discussion with me, to oten this sort of thing devolves into a yelling contest.
mssnrykd 6 months ago
@mssnrykd
I suppose the only common ground amongst all the Atheists you mentioned, is the non-belief in a creator, from there on things can change according to one's view on order and morality.
Atheism has no reference nor scripture one can turn to for guidance, however I believe we're fortunate enough to live in an era were information is readily available for those of who wish to pursue the truth.
tohtoo 6 months ago
@tohtoo So Atheists are stubornly stuck on their own? Anyway, my original point was more why is it alright to cite an author's opinion on g(G)od(s) b/c he is from the 1700 AD and not 2000 BC? You are still citing an old source, why not the older one? Why not one that others have found trustworthy for millenia? Why do all the work yourself?
mssnrykd 6 months ago
@mssnrykd. I haven't cited any old source, I've merely responded to your and thedutchman01 comments.
One could also argue creationists stubbornness for ignoring the evidence that presents itself in front of them. As I mentioned previously, my opinions were based on Abrahamic based texts.
The age of these texts is irrelevant (as far as I'm concerned, they could have been written last week); it’s the content within these texts that contradict what we know as factual today.
tohtoo 6 months ago
@tohtoo "... the content within these texts that contradict what we know as factual today." What contradiction? How do we know something is factual? Just trying to stimulate critical thinking.
mssnrykd 6 months ago
Let’s see!
In genesis 1. The first three days of creation went like this;
Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky (!)
Day 3: Plants
It wasn't till Day 4 that god created the SUN.
I'm assuming you know were light comes from.
I could go on and on but as mentioned earlier, the truth is at your finger tips.
tohtoo 6 months ago
@tohtoo light comes from GOD read revelation..if you're gonna quote the Bible you should read it
adoptedoneathotmail 5 months ago
@adoptedoneathotmail So are you suggesting, God created Sky and Earth in the dark???
You do realise that sky and earth are not the centre of the Universe, don't you?
tohtoo 5 months ago
@tohtoo "Atheism ...will emphasize the importance of evidence," and then refuse to check any of it out.
lockdown260 5 months ago
@tohtoo The claim that atheism doesn't rely on "ancient texts" or Scripture doesn't make it less religious. There is no definition of "religion" that absolutly demans adherence to "ancient texts" or Scripture.
Atheism = faith in the void.
sergiomats 5 months ago
@sergiomats. The word "Faith" can be interpreted as " Belief" and the word "void" can be interpreted as "nothing".
So with your logic a "belief in nothing" is now a religion!
tohtoo 4 months ago
The word "religion" can be interpreted as "worldview" or "way of thinking". Believing that the universe was not created and life was not created, but just "happened" IS a religious view because it is a.,..... worldview and a way of thinking.
sergiomats 4 months ago
@sergiomats. The thing the drives Atheism is scientific evidence.
Unlikely blind faith, if the time ever comes along when something seems more scientifically viable than the Big Bang, then the science will “Change” accordingly.
Unfortunately Abrahamic based religions will still insist that god created “Eve from Adam's rib, only after he complained about being lonely".
tohtoo 4 months ago
@tohtoo Really? What is the positive scientifc evidence that God doesn't exist? Don't tell me "because there is no evidence", bkz if you say that, then you contradict yoursef since believing in something because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE is not the same as believeing in something BECAUSE there is positive evidence.
share us your atheistic "wisdom" and shows tha scientific evidence for the non-existence of God.
sergiomats 4 months ago
@sergiomats> Tone it down there big fella, you not really making a lot of sense.
You’re suggesting I prove the non-existence of some that is not there.... Hhmmm
It's not how it works sergiomats. It's YOU who needs to prove his/her/its existence
I'm assuming by your passionate reply that you still believe that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old and that people walked with dinosaurs or maybe that the earth is the centre of the Universe and that the sun revolves around us.
tohtoo 4 months ago
@tohtoo Wait. You said you "followed the evidence", and that "evidence" suports your atheism. What is the evidence that suports atheism (ie, God does not exist) ?
You see, son, you now have to choose:
1) Either you backpadel and say that you don't follow the evidence but the ABSENCE of evidence
2) Or you provide the evidence that makes you THINK God is not Real.
I will wait eagerly, trying not to laugh too much at the picture of you scratching your head in despair.
sergiomats 4 months ago
@sergiomats.
As mentioned earlier, its scientific evidence that has proven the age of the earth beyond what is preached in Abrahamic texts.
Read up on NASA's Hubble Space Telescope (you might learn something)
Its scientific evidence that has shown fossil records verifying evolution.
It's scientific evidence that has shown us all known forms of life are based on the same fundamental biochemical organization: (genetic information encoded in DNA).
Shall I go on?
tohtoo 4 months ago
@tohtoo Fossil records? By what?
Their shape? c'mon, any idiot knows if you bury something in the ground for a really long time it deteriorates...
The level of earth their under? Water, mud, hurricanes... those take stuff and bury it DEEP in the ground, much faster than a inchworm on a Monday. Meaning, a hippo had a bad day and got caught under a hurricane, his bones are buried deep enough in the ground he must've died upteen million years ago, when really, it was last week! VERY REAL SCENARIO!
Godsgunboy101 4 months ago
Aww, come on. Is that the best you can do? You said [hilariously]: "The thing the drives Atheism is scientific evidence." *chuckle* I asked you which scientific evidence "drives" the belief that God doesn't exist (i.e., atheism) you say that it isn't really the evidence FOR atheism that drives it, but your alledged LACK OF EVIDENCE for theism.
So which is it? Does the evidence drive atheism or the absence of evidence (no evidence) drives atheism?
*grin*
sergiomats 4 months ago
@sergiomats.
It’s both, genius.
The absence of evidence that God exists supports Atheism and scientific evidence whether it be biological, cosmological, archeological overwhelmingly supports my non-belief in a creator.
tohtoo 4 months ago
Wait! You said that the evidence SUPORTS atheism. Atheism is "God doesn't exist". Show me any evidence that suports "God doesn't exist".
As I predicted, you are backpedaling. NOw you say that is not the evidence FOR atheism, but the imaginary lack of evidence FOR Theism. SO you don't follow the evidence. You follow the ABSENCE of evidence for God. Your faith is based on a negation. NO wonder militant atheists are so negative and obnoxious.
Oh, the biological evidence contradicts atheism.
sergiomats 4 months ago
@sergiomats. I'm assuming English is your second language.
Obviously comprehension is not your strong suit.
Read it again genius!
The concern here is, if English is your first language, then stupidity now has a new name.
tohtoo 4 months ago
@tohtoo hehe
sergiomats 4 months ago
@Godsgunboy101. It's probably best you lay your banjo down to rest Gunboy, and pick a book and read.
You might learn something!!!!!!!!!
tohtoo 4 months ago
@tohtoo I don't know what atheists you've been talking to. I guess you're one of the few these days that are actually intellectually honest.
I'm not a religious person. The rise of the righteous Fundamental Atheists is obvious. Just because the Atheist King, Richard Dawkins, says it isn't a religion doesn't make it true.
mtb416 4 months ago
@mtb416. I think it’s great that in a democratic society, people are comfortable enough to question the Church, Mosque or Synagogue.
As for the “The rise of the righteous Fundamental Atheists” I don't remember Dawkins ever threatening anyone or suggesting that they'll burn in some sort of Atheistic hell-fire for not believing the things he does.
tohtoo 4 months ago
@tohtoo I agree and I'm all for questioning. Of course, in America atheists, the fundamental ones, only really hate on Christianity or Judeo-Christian values. They tend to leave the far more violent, misogynistic, and hateful religion of Islam alone.
Of course he never said anything about some "Atheist hell", that would be contradictory to his belief system. He's wrong about atheism not during into some righteous fundamentalist movement. It most certainly it.
mtb416 4 months ago