Jon P. Holdren Grilled By Congressman Sensenbrenner (ClimateGate)

[nuttybollockz]

someone needs blow up holdren's car with holdren in it.

[elflacoblanco]

Gonna post Holdren's full response, then?

[TomUsherRLCC]

Try to sort the truth here rather than being an arm of the pathetic Republican Parties propaganda and co-optative efforts will you please.

[TomUsherRLCC]

If calling some people's attempts at hard science amateurish is name-calling, then what does he make of Jesus Christ calling the serpentine Pharisees "serpents"? Didn't he suggest that Holdren is a fascist? Sure he did; but whether there's truth to that, it doesn't excuse Sensenbrenner's war-mongering and love of the fascist tactics that were on display all through his beloved Bush administration.

[drreedindeed]

None of that makes AGW real.

Or will you just dodge the central question whenever you can?

[TomUsherRLCC]

Nothing in the video makes AGW false. I've defended AGW elsewhere. Your logic is flawed. Just because I've addressed the demerits of Sensnebrenner, who has a mammon-based reason for his ideological stance, doesn't say that I've dodged anything. The anti-AGW movement is wrong, and I will be vindicated in saying it. Of course, Sensenbrenner's sweeping and hypocritical statements have a bearing on whether people should thoughtlessly accept his totally unscientific tactics.

[TomUsherRLCC]

"...not really given a chance to spew his lies"? Whether you agree with him or not, he was interrupted twice and not allowed to answer the questions. If such tactics impress you, then you're no real friend of truth-seeking.

Sensenbrenner, who loves the wars and loved the fascist Bush administration, has a lot of nerve applying the term fascist to others. He should spend some time looking in the mirror.

[jellozoo]

Nice job Sensenbrenner!

[Conan568]

At 4 min he says, it doesn't matter whether global warming is a fraud the PLAN IS going ahead.

[bluetickrunner]

criminal it is time to go to jail for treason and eugenics you sick motherfucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!it is time to have trials for treason and hang these batards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bluetickrunner]

sure we are going to have sea level rising from melting ice but it freezes again in the winter but these goofs do not take into account volcanic activity which is making new islands as we speak displacing water since the earth has been earth as far as temps they are no differant than they were 100 years ago some years are hotter some years are colder the earth is a living breathing planet,, unlike our constitution, we all agree on that except for al gore and bill clinton so criminal its time

[dragknuckle]

When you combine the undisputable fact that Jones conspired with others to conceal information with the fact that we cannot check the original data, the case for AGW is dead. A judge would throw the whole thing out.

[PikeSdream]

Prior to AR3 Briffa talks of pressure to produce a tidy picture of apparent unprecedented warming in a thousand years or more in the proxy data.

[This appears to be the politics leading the science] Briffa says it was "just as warm a thousand years ago." (0938018124)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

# Michael Mann discusses how to destroy a journal that has published sceptic papers.(1047388489)

# Tim Osborn discusses how data are truncated to stop an apparent cooling trend showing up in the results (0939154709).

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Tom Wigley says that von Storch is partly to blame for sceptic papers getting published at Climate Research. Says he encourages the publication of crap science. Says they should tell publisher that the journal is being used for misinformation. Says that whether this is true or not doesnt matter. Says they need to get editorial board to resign. Says they need to get rid of von Storch too. (1051190249)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

# Mann tells Jones that it would be nice to contain the putative Medieval Warm Period. (1054736277)

# Tom Wigley tells Jones that the land warming since 1980 has been twice the ocean warming and that this might be used by sceptics as evidence for urban heat islands.(1257546975)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Briffa is funding Russian dendro Shiyatov, who asks him to send money to personal bank account so as to avoid tax, thereby retaining money for research.(0826209667)

Tom Wigley discusses how to deal with the advent of FoI law in UK. Jones says use IPR argument to hold onto code. Says data is covered by agreements with outsiders and that CRU will be hiding behind them.(1106338806)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Santer says he will no longer publish in Royal Met Soc journals if they enforce intermediate data being made available. Jones has complained to head of Royal Met Soc about new editor of Weather [why?data?] and has threatened to resign from RMS.(1237496573)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Reaction to McIntyres 2005 paper in GRL. Mann has challenged GRL editor-in-chief over the publication. Mann is concerned about the connections of the papers editor James Saiers with U Virginia [does he mean Pat Michaels?]. Tom Wigley says that if Saiers is a sceptic they should go through official GRL channels to get him ousted. (1106322460)

[Note to readers - Saiers was subsequently ousted]

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Later on Mann refers to the leak at GRL being plugged.(1132094873)

Jones says hes found a way around releasing AR4 review comments to David Holland.(1210367056)

Jones calls for Wahl and Ammann to try to change the received date on their alleged refutation of McIntyre [presumably so it can get into AR4](1189722851)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Tom Wigley tells Mann that a figure Schmidt put together to refute Monckton is deceptive and that the match it shows of instrumental to model predictions is a fluke. Says there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model output by authors and IPCC.(1255553034)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[PikeSdream]

Jones tells Mann that he is sending station data. Says that if McIntyre requests it under FoI he will delete it rather than hand it over. Says he will hide behind data protection laws. Says Rutherford screwed up big time by creating an FTP directory for Osborn. Says Wigley worried he will have to release his model code. Also discuss AR4 draft. Mann says paleoclimate chapter will be contentious but that the author team has the right personalities to deal with sceptics.(1107454306)

[PikeSdream]

Funkhouser says hes pulled every trick up his sleeve to milk his Kyrgistan series. Doesnt think its productive to juggle the chronology statistics any more than he has.(0843161829)

Wigley discusses fixing an issue with sea surface temperatures in the context of making the results look both warmer but still plausible. (1254108338)

CRU searchable database of the leaked info at eastangliaemails

[kas617]

That's what they need to do. Don't let them think about any other lie, put them in their place: FRAUD!

Good video!

[ace8842]

Awesome. Obama's science czar is knee deep in Climategate and is part of the problem and the giant hoax.