You know this case has already been tried right? He was found guilty of involuntary, given 2 with with some time already served so I'm thinking around November he'll be out
@shelbysc450 I caught that yesterday myself. People around here have gotten 20 years for a hell of a lot less than killing someone. I live in the wrong damn state
Sorry but this guy needs to do serious time. Cops have to learn they cant just draw there weapon on people like that. They are not in the military. People have rights in America.
Although I think I think this guy should never be allowed to hold another gun, I don't know wth all you people saying that police shouldn't be able to carry weapons. Most people that hate cops are just up to no good and hate the fact that cops are there to prevent them for doing bad things. I'm glad this guy guy involutary man slaughter. No one should live in jail for life for what happened here. The black guy should have just stayed home like a good little boy.
May you rot in prison, because that's the only way you'll ever be able to relate to Grand Oscar's daughter. You took her father away from her and the now the system will take you away from your child. Tit for tat motherfucker.
@kenny1309 it did happen in oakland.he was arrested in nevada after a fugitive warrant was issued for him.this was the hearing for his extradition back to california.
There is racism in every culture in America. The only time it offects someone is if its PROVEN to be racism. In THIS CASE, this is not racism, this is MURDER. Racism comes into play when the trial is moved to LA and heard by a complete WHITE Jury. Now THATS racism. Why wasnt african americans, hispanics, asians, & whites selected as jurors? Because the system has failed. The importance of it all, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU VOTE INTO OFFICE, THATS WHERE FAILURE LIES, STOP THROWING STONES PPL!!
@lavthierry1 This was most assuredly not murder, this was criminal negligence. The man meant to pull his taser which would have been fully justified given the situation. It was a life and death version of grabbing the wrong tool out of a drawer. Also, the jury was not completely "White", but comprised of Asians and Latinos as well. The prosecution could have objected and gone for Black jurors.
@lavthierry1 I think this has less to do with racism and murder, and more to do with the fact that BART transit officers are probably the MOST incompetent police officers in the whole state of California.
I am so sick of you clowns doggin on cops, none of you are fans of cops until your ass is gettin beat or someone stole your crack, then you go cryin to the cops for help. Shut the fuck up! Stop breakin the law and acting like morons and start contributing to society. These cops have a hard enough job as it is without ghetto trash and white trash second guessing them because they're too stupid to obey the law.
@Rayzkevin If you think the guy was just sitting there, then you are fooling yourself. Grant was violently resisting arrest, just as he has done numerous times before. The officer attempted to tase him, and pulled the wrong weapon. It is something that has actually happened several times before, to both White and Black suspects by both White and Black cops.
@ssn708 My brother is a Cailifornia Highway Patrolman and I am a soon to be police officer that is familiar with the area, and I can tell you that BART cops are nothing more than pistol-toting rent-a-cops with VERY rudimentary firearms training. Needless to say when my family and I first heard about this incident, we were so NOT surprised.
Its not a white or black thing. The guy was laying there and the cop shot him. There wasn't a need to taze him if you want to go the route of the cop pulled the wrong weapon. Watch the video of him getting killed. (he puts his hand behind his back and lays with his chest on the concrete)
@webofdeciet1 Dude you have to understand that cops reflect our society. As sad as that sounds its true.. like in Society there are good people and bad people.. Same with cops, there are good cops and bad cops. This guy is a bad cop! period.
@bettermaxim This guy was not a "bad" cop. This guy was an exhausted, criminally negligent cop who made the biggest mistake of his life, and will be paying for it for the rest of his life. He will get 3-15 years.
Im no fan of police officers but they should not be charged with murder/manslaughter when they use a taser on a "suspect". a taser is non-lethal by design and its obviously a lot less lethal than a 9mm bullet. sometimes "suspects" die from the tasers but those are just accidents, not murders. like what's a cop to do if using his gun is too much force and a baton is not enough? he uses his next available tool, the taser.
The ex-officer didn't use his taser, that's the whole point. He pulled out his pistol and shot a man on the ground, for no reason. His excuse is that he "meant to use the taser"... As if a taser is shaped JUST like a pistol and there's NO way he could have known he grabbed the wrong gun? Even if it was a mistake he may need to die before he spreads his genes around, people that dumb don't need to live long enough to breed.
yeah Amen man... too bad your religion is another stupid lie you continue to force feed yourself.. But srsly i can't wait for a cop to fuck you over, and when your crying like a bitch you can start praying aka doing nothing and thinking your helping...
perhaps the senior officer on site during this situation needs to take a good hard long look at himself, if you cant tell the differance between a glock and a bright yellow taser, maybe being a cop just isnt for you.
@sandman54913 BART Cops do not carry Glocks, they carry the Sig Sauer P 226 in .40 caliber, which is even heavier and looks even less like the standard taser.
god damn shut the hell up, you speak nothing but arrogance. havent you grew up with any positive morals in life or have your parents failed at that. grow up, that racist shit is dead already move on with your life already
That felony warrant is going to be a huge hit when it comes to the penalty phase if/when it makes it to that point.
I still maintain that man1 is the most that they can convict him on. While the shot may not have been a voluntary act, drawing his weapon was. And in my training (Military Police) you don't draw your weapon unless you're ready to employ deadly force.
I agree. You've made one of the very few sensible comments on this message board.
People here are not being logical. On one hand, you have the people--a lot of them racist--who think Mehserle did nothing wrong at all, since Grant had a criminal record. On the other hand, you have people who are mindlessly calling it "cold-blooded murder" without investigating all the facts. Both groups are being ridiculous.
@DetectiveCrockett77 Again, it really has nothing to do with race and nothing to do with murder. This was just a stupid mistake made by a BART Subway Cop, who are considered notoriously incompetent by the area's law enforcement community anyway.
It's inconclusive, actually, as to whether Grant was actually in cuffs. I do agree that Mehserle had no reason to pull a weapon.
But that doesn't mean he committed cold-blooded murder, either. He was a young cop, possibly scared of the chaos around him. It doesn't justify what he did, but it more or less paints him in a more sympathetic light. I honestly think he didn't mean to kill Grant--the charge should be manslaughter or negligent homicide.
@DetectiveCrockett77 I know this subject is old, but you trying to defend this "cop" makes me wonder a lot of things.You said "inconclusive" as to whether he was hand cuff, how about just asking the cop was he cuffed, o wait, the cop was too traumatized to remember.With all do respect, fuck that and the whole sympathy thing, and please don't take offense to my choice of words, but I'm a southern realist not some "DetectiveCrocktt77" who believes in the man made justice system.
At that time, I said "inconclusive" because I wasn't completely certain as to whether or not Grant was cuffed. It turns out he wasn't. His left arm was still free at the moment of the shooting.
If this would of have happened to an asian, white or even hispanic person (chop liver of the whites cause of blacks) then there would be no race issue. The man made a mistake and the kid died as a result of this. If anything this "cop" should have been fired on the spot, but to call for him being arrested? For what??
There was a call about deviant behavior and the dude that got killed was one of them... You know one of the punks that hurts others for no reason?
Oscar "da Myer weiner" Grant was convicted of 8 drug charges, 2 of them trafficking within the last year, recently released from prison in September, was deliquent on his child support, was arrested for resisting arrest and got taser as a result in 07, whatever else he did before he was 18 is sealed. this thug deserved what he had coming.
Have a feeling the cop was stoned and/or drunk when this incident happened, just by his demeanor during the video, and his subsequent shock at his actions. New Years, probably working the late shift after a night out. Good thing ol' boy dissapeared before he was subject to a toxicology test.
That's a good fucking point man I never even thought of that. (not being sarcastic)...He was genuinely surprised that the pistol went off, I don't think he "mistook it for a stun gun"....That's probably just what happened.
This scum sucker is in trouble. He should have never resigned. At least his ex-employer would have supported him. Now what? He will probably get a change of venue and a light sentence.
YOU fascist Natzi lover,get your head out of the sand.how would you know the victim was an Obama supporter.What differancedoes it make.Its fools like you who should be locked
have fun getting a job felon pig bitch
sosomrclean1 7 months ago
You know this case has already been tried right? He was found guilty of involuntary, given 2 with with some time already served so I'm thinking around November he'll be out
TSNorm 8 months ago
@TSNorm he got out already
shelbysc450 7 months ago
@shelbysc450 I caught that yesterday myself. People around here have gotten 20 years for a hell of a lot less than killing someone. I live in the wrong damn state
TSNorm 7 months ago
DAMMM SOMEONES GONNA GET FUCKING GANG BANGED IN JAIL HIS ASSHOLE IS GONNA BE BIG AS A WATERMELON LOL
poopynachos187 8 months ago
Sorry but this guy needs to do serious time. Cops have to learn they cant just draw there weapon on people like that. They are not in the military. People have rights in America.
alsdwr 8 months ago
IS THIS GUY A JEW?????????????????????
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 1 year ago
Although I think I think this guy should never be allowed to hold another gun, I don't know wth all you people saying that police shouldn't be able to carry weapons. Most people that hate cops are just up to no good and hate the fact that cops are there to prevent them for doing bad things. I'm glad this guy guy involutary man slaughter. No one should live in jail for life for what happened here. The black guy should have just stayed home like a good little boy.
breastimus 1 year ago
Three more black people killed by thugs today in Oakland. Just wondering when people will start being outraged....
evilbunnyrabbits 1 year ago
@evilbunnyrabbits Where were the cops to protect those people? Oh wait, they would never put their lives at risk for a black resident of Oakland.
Soulja4islam 1 year ago 3
not accused its on video wtf is wrong with you ppl?!?!?! what if that was your unarmed brother or father?
AriahDABOSS29 1 year ago
Police officers that exercise unnecessary force, as in this case, should automatically get the death penalty...
puckfu 1 year ago 2
@puckfu life penalty is more than enough but in general he might be beaten by others till death in such case
citymontreal 1 year ago
May you rot in prison, because that's the only way you'll ever be able to relate to Grand Oscar's daughter. You took her father away from her and the now the system will take you away from your child. Tit for tat motherfucker.
IbeJaleel 1 year ago
I believe his action was instinctive.
josephortizgarcia 1 year ago
This has been a while now so is there any new information about this?
shotsxxx 1 year ago
@Omegatide sez "I smell bacon."
Yeah, BURNING Bacon...
SaddleCat1 1 year ago
Nevada? I thought this happened in Oakland, California?
kenny1309 1 year ago
@kenny1309 it did happen in oakland.he was arrested in nevada after a fugitive warrant was issued for him.this was the hearing for his extradition back to california.
308scoutrfl 1 year ago
There is racism in every culture in America. The only time it offects someone is if its PROVEN to be racism. In THIS CASE, this is not racism, this is MURDER. Racism comes into play when the trial is moved to LA and heard by a complete WHITE Jury. Now THATS racism. Why wasnt african americans, hispanics, asians, & whites selected as jurors? Because the system has failed. The importance of it all, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU VOTE INTO OFFICE, THATS WHERE FAILURE LIES, STOP THROWING STONES PPL!!
lavthierry1 1 year ago
@lavthierry1 This was most assuredly not murder, this was criminal negligence. The man meant to pull his taser which would have been fully justified given the situation. It was a life and death version of grabbing the wrong tool out of a drawer. Also, the jury was not completely "White", but comprised of Asians and Latinos as well. The prosecution could have objected and gone for Black jurors.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708 you show right hun
lavthierry1 1 year ago
@lavthierry1 I think this has less to do with racism and murder, and more to do with the fact that BART transit officers are probably the MOST incompetent police officers in the whole state of California.
cjsturmwehr12489 1 year ago
@cjsturmwehr12489 I agree with you and I live in Texas..lol
lavthierry1 1 year ago
that cop is a dumbass
dreicemoney 1 year ago
he looks jewish not white
myksbzgrrl6 1 year ago
I smell bacon.
Omegatide 2 years ago 10
i think this piece of trash needs to be put out of its misery
hotfox81 2 years ago
if they would have put a black judge in that seat with the twistable mallet with booze inside i dought it would have went this way
XxXblizzXxX 2 years ago
hes white hes innocent =)
whitemotorsportz 2 years ago
why is he being tried in Nevada?
pugbugging 2 years ago
you guys is madd funny ..lolololol asses
SUPAFLEX10 2 years ago
I am so sick of you clowns doggin on cops, none of you are fans of cops until your ass is gettin beat or someone stole your crack, then you go cryin to the cops for help. Shut the fuck up! Stop breakin the law and acting like morons and start contributing to society. These cops have a hard enough job as it is without ghetto trash and white trash second guessing them because they're too stupid to obey the law.
webofdeciet1 2 years ago
FUck you webofdeciet1. May you die in a house fire. You ignorant, worthless, son of a bitch. Fuck you!!
tknockerson 2 years ago
You are the trash I speak of. Ignorance flows in your blood.
webofdeciet1 2 years ago
shut the fuck up pig fucker. You are one of the brainwashed morons who truly have no idea...
tyronelol 2 years ago
Once again, ladies and gentleman, the trash I spoke of comments again. Thank you tyronelol for illustrating your low class.
webofdeciet1 2 years ago
praise the lord to that haha
White4life69 2 years ago
Amen man keep it up!
Firestics 2 years ago
@webofdeciet1
The guy was sitting there and the cop shot him in the head. You have no idea what you are talking about. Go Fist yourself.
Rayzkevin 1 year ago
@Rayzkevin
you have no idea what youre talking about dipshit. he didnt shoot him in the head. learn wtf youre talking about before you talk shit
1488RebelDerekisBack 1 year ago
@1488RebelDerekisBack
Because there is a difference in the result of shooting someone in the head vs Chest. Oh wait both cause death.
Rayzkevin 1 year ago
@1488RebelDerekisBack cuz thats what matters lol
Vegetabledishes 1 year ago
@Rayzkevin If you think the guy was just sitting there, then you are fooling yourself. Grant was violently resisting arrest, just as he has done numerous times before. The officer attempted to tase him, and pulled the wrong weapon. It is something that has actually happened several times before, to both White and Black suspects by both White and Black cops.
ssn708 1 year ago
@ssn708 My brother is a Cailifornia Highway Patrolman and I am a soon to be police officer that is familiar with the area, and I can tell you that BART cops are nothing more than pistol-toting rent-a-cops with VERY rudimentary firearms training. Needless to say when my family and I first heard about this incident, we were so NOT surprised.
cjsturmwehr12489 1 year ago
@ssn708
Its not a white or black thing. The guy was laying there and the cop shot him. There wasn't a need to taze him if you want to go the route of the cop pulled the wrong weapon. Watch the video of him getting killed. (he puts his hand behind his back and lays with his chest on the concrete)
Rayzkevin 4 months ago
@webofdeciet1 Dude you have to understand that cops reflect our society. As sad as that sounds its true.. like in Society there are good people and bad people.. Same with cops, there are good cops and bad cops. This guy is a bad cop! period.
bettermaxim 1 year ago
@bettermaxim This guy was not a "bad" cop. This guy was an exhausted, criminally negligent cop who made the biggest mistake of his life, and will be paying for it for the rest of his life. He will get 3-15 years.
ssn708 1 year ago
Im no fan of police officers but they should not be charged with murder/manslaughter when they use a taser on a "suspect". a taser is non-lethal by design and its obviously a lot less lethal than a 9mm bullet. sometimes "suspects" die from the tasers but those are just accidents, not murders. like what's a cop to do if using his gun is too much force and a baton is not enough? he uses his next available tool, the taser.
JonGarrett2010 2 years ago
The ex-officer didn't use his taser, that's the whole point. He pulled out his pistol and shot a man on the ground, for no reason. His excuse is that he "meant to use the taser"... As if a taser is shaped JUST like a pistol and there's NO way he could have known he grabbed the wrong gun? Even if it was a mistake he may need to die before he spreads his genes around, people that dumb don't need to live long enough to breed.
Neiya 2 years ago
yeah Amen man... too bad your religion is another stupid lie you continue to force feed yourself.. But srsly i can't wait for a cop to fuck you over, and when your crying like a bitch you can start praying aka doing nothing and thinking your helping...
tyronelol 2 years ago
I´m both an atheist and against cops executing people on the streets. Religion as about as stupid as you
surlagachette2 1 year ago
Sry, misunderstood your coment. Saw what you responded to now.
surlagachette2 1 year ago
lmao religion...
tyronelol 1 year ago
Why wasnt the other pigs charged?
tdwnarrows2 2 years ago
What Took the D.A. so long!!!! What if there was no video?
rebeccalewis1979 2 years ago
perhaps the senior officer on site during this situation needs to take a good hard long look at himself, if you cant tell the differance between a glock and a bright yellow taser, maybe being a cop just isnt for you.
sandman54913 2 years ago
NOT ALL TASERS ARE YELLOW IDIOT
Jailer40 2 years ago
no need to use a taser on someone on lying on the ground in handcuffs IDIOT!
ifartinyoursoup 2 years ago
@sandman54913 BART Cops do not carry Glocks, they carry the Sig Sauer P 226 in .40 caliber, which is even heavier and looks even less like the standard taser.
cjsturmwehr12489 1 year ago
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let the guy go already...he's doing his job...one less nigger running his smart mouth
thugr0meo 2 years ago
god damn shut the hell up, you speak nothing but arrogance. havent you grew up with any positive morals in life or have your parents failed at that. grow up, that racist shit is dead already move on with your life already
pharoah21 2 years ago
That felony warrant is going to be a huge hit when it comes to the penalty phase if/when it makes it to that point.
I still maintain that man1 is the most that they can convict him on. While the shot may not have been a voluntary act, drawing his weapon was. And in my training (Military Police) you don't draw your weapon unless you're ready to employ deadly force.
I'm afraid everybody looses in this one.
crispycritterz 2 years ago 14
I agree. You've made one of the very few sensible comments on this message board.
People here are not being logical. On one hand, you have the people--a lot of them racist--who think Mehserle did nothing wrong at all, since Grant had a criminal record. On the other hand, you have people who are mindlessly calling it "cold-blooded murder" without investigating all the facts. Both groups are being ridiculous.
DetectiveCrockett77 2 years ago
@DetectiveCrockett77 Again, it really has nothing to do with race and nothing to do with murder. This was just a stupid mistake made by a BART Subway Cop, who are considered notoriously incompetent by the area's law enforcement community anyway.
cjsturmwehr12489 1 year ago
@cjsturmwehr12489
Are you sure you didn't just reply to the wrong person?
DetectiveCrockett77 1 year ago
@DetectiveCrockett77 Oh, I might have. Ha ha if I did, I'm sincerely sorry.
cjsturmwehr12489 1 year ago
@cjsturmwehr12489
Haha. No worries, mate. FYI: I tend to agree with you as to the topic at hand.
DetectiveCrockett77 1 year ago
@crispycritterz
AdmiralGST 1 year ago
@crispycritterz hes free to go now
wh306 7 months ago
He should get life, if you saw the video, the kid was in handcuffs, he had NO reason to reach for a taser nor gun.
cmms99 2 years ago 2
It's inconclusive, actually, as to whether Grant was actually in cuffs. I do agree that Mehserle had no reason to pull a weapon.
But that doesn't mean he committed cold-blooded murder, either. He was a young cop, possibly scared of the chaos around him. It doesn't justify what he did, but it more or less paints him in a more sympathetic light. I honestly think he didn't mean to kill Grant--the charge should be manslaughter or negligent homicide.
DetectiveCrockett77 2 years ago
@DetectiveCrockett77 I know this subject is old, but you trying to defend this "cop" makes me wonder a lot of things.You said "inconclusive" as to whether he was hand cuff, how about just asking the cop was he cuffed, o wait, the cop was too traumatized to remember.With all do respect, fuck that and the whole sympathy thing, and please don't take offense to my choice of words, but I'm a southern realist not some "DetectiveCrocktt77" who believes in the man made justice system.
cmms99 1 year ago
@cmms99
At that time, I said "inconclusive" because I wasn't completely certain as to whether or not Grant was cuffed. It turns out he wasn't. His left arm was still free at the moment of the shooting.
DetectiveCrockett77 1 year ago
If this would of have happened to an asian, white or even hispanic person (chop liver of the whites cause of blacks) then there would be no race issue. The man made a mistake and the kid died as a result of this. If anything this "cop" should have been fired on the spot, but to call for him being arrested? For what??
There was a call about deviant behavior and the dude that got killed was one of them... You know one of the punks that hurts others for no reason?
TREBLINKA007 2 years ago
GO SUCK ON A EGG OUT OF A OVARIE!
1pipe13 2 years ago
where did he get 3mil dollars to post bail?
roca21wear 3 years ago 2
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1pipe13 2 years ago
Look at his face. He knows he won't get punishment.
FunWithGus 3 years ago
Great video description guys... love how you involve race in everything.
Why do ppl care so much about what race the ppl involved were?
why not name it former police officer shot unarmed man? nah... that wouldnt help promote racism.
BigBaldGreen 3 years ago
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Oscar "da Myer weiner" Grant was convicted of 8 drug charges, 2 of them trafficking within the last year, recently released from prison in September, was deliquent on his child support, was arrested for resisting arrest and got taser as a result in 07, whatever else he did before he was 18 is sealed. this thug deserved what he had coming.
350whpkilla 3 years ago
He should be pardoned by BUSH then given the congressional medal of honor.
micsc50 3 years ago
so the cop ran away and got picked up ,LMFAO
hopefully he gets ass raped over n over !!
NotOurCause 3 years ago
He should be given a medal, not arrested.
Sh4rperX 3 years ago
And you should get your head out of your ass & smell the roses.Or maybe you like the smell up there
unitedanarchistleage 3 years ago
The message is for Sh4rperx
unitedanarchistleage 3 years ago
Aren't you embarrassed .
televin 3 years ago
Is he the guy who shot oscar grant?
LuDimezofKush 3 years ago
I LOVE it when the police go to prison themselves.......
T4nz4ni4232 3 years ago
Same here
lildwayne21 3 years ago
Sup with the non zoom on ol' boys face?
FundedByTheMob 3 years ago
Have a feeling the cop was stoned and/or drunk when this incident happened, just by his demeanor during the video, and his subsequent shock at his actions. New Years, probably working the late shift after a night out. Good thing ol' boy dissapeared before he was subject to a toxicology test.
FundedByTheMob 3 years ago
That's a good fucking point man I never even thought of that. (not being sarcastic)...He was genuinely surprised that the pistol went off, I don't think he "mistook it for a stun gun"....That's probably just what happened.
maynecuffs 3 years ago
This scum sucker is in trouble. He should have never resigned. At least his ex-employer would have supported him. Now what? He will probably get a change of venue and a light sentence.
BobbieJeanEndZone 3 years ago
Have a firing squad waiting at the airport!
capttrips25 3 years ago
wow, nice description, AP. Would you write the same if the police officer happened to be black?
netanyaforever 3 years ago
In Trouble Are we?
TheBionicTeen 3 years ago
bitch deserves death sentence
thyan69 3 years ago
thyan69:
Give him a reward the guy he shot was an Acorn Worker and Obama supporter: Uppity!
starcatcher7777 3 years ago
YOU fascist Natzi lover,get your head out of the sand.how would you know the victim was an Obama supporter.What differancedoes it make.Its fools like you who should be locked
unitedanarchistleage 3 years ago
United"
I am not a Nazi:
Hitler was a "LEFTIST" Socialist that loved Marx and the Koran like Obama!
starcatcher7777 3 years ago
Oh, I get it, star, that means you are a leftist socialist then.
TECHKLEC 3 years ago
TeckLick:
Hey how are you: How are the bookings going for your chicken and midget show at the Carnival?
Next thing you are going to tell me is that you having sex with a dead woman is truly a "Victimless Crime" and should be legalized along with pot:
starcatcher7777 3 years ago
Hey starcatcher7777 what do you have against chronic ya cunt. while were at it lets legalize meth too. :-}
asianlover123098 3 years ago
ignore starcatcher-he's a troll
gungagin 3 years ago