omg this is soo much manual artillery... it need 4 crew to operate... all modern sistems can be operated by 2 soldiers and they dont even need to get out of the truck...
@1989WOX of course yeah in disney world maybe. How do you reload if you stay in the truck idiot. Caesar is the fastest artillery in deployment, it is fully automated, receives coordonnates automaticaly, with manual override if needed. The Caesar is so fast that when rounds hit the targets, it already left the area.
@1989WOX ok proove us that an american truck gun 155 mn needs nobody to reload ! the french 155 mn is automatic . i have seen american gun in afghanistan they are still using cranks to manipulate the gun and reload manuelly
@1989WOX look at this american video "Taliban dying! Artillery fire in Afghanistan (Pech river Valley)" they are using cranks to manipulate the artillery . it s not automatic at all .
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All in all, the best artillery is the German PzH2000 (not a serbian or another american stuff), but with 55t, this isn't an artillery that you can deploy easily..
As far as the Caesar vs. Archer argument goes, if I was leader of a medium sized country with threatening neighbors, but I didn't otherwise expect to deploy my forces overseas that often, I would 100% go for the Archer.
@lundholm4 First, the ceasar is the faster system of his category. The vehicle can change his position before the hit. It makes it impossible to be hit by an other artillery (or the other side need a CRAZY luck...).
Then, an artillery isn't made to be on the front-line of the battlefield...
Even Serbian "NORA-B52-K0" is much faster than this thing!!! And it has SELF-PROPELLED 155mm GUN-HOWITZER, inside cab automated firing controls... And comparing Caesar with Archer is stupid because Archer is just perfect, and YES, it is perfectly expensive all so.... So, Nora B-52 is very good solution !!! yes, I'm from Serbia...
Only on a rate of fire, Archer is better, in others Caesar is :
-less mechanisms, less failures
-more men who can replace an other, not a mechanism
-possibility of continuous shooting for Caesar, Archer once emptied its magazine need to recharge (during this time it's not operational).
-ability to climb more better for Caesar cause mass better distributed than the Archer (on the 2 extremities). Some pb when climbing or an extremity blocked.
Not the Archer is not better, it is a calf which weighs more than thirty tons. An imitation, one more and this costing nearly 10 times more expensive.
This system looks ok, but it kinda sucks that the crew has to dismount to fire it. I think that the BAE Archer is probably better in that respect. Everything is controlled from inside the cab.
These are probably less expensive to buy though. Still get the job done.
Anyway, it is a very little detail, the sabots are still in fly to their zone of impact while the crew move again.
The most important is that CAESAR is digitaly linked to central combat systems so the crew doesn't have to enter any coordonates. It aims and fire on its own, while the crew reload and cover the aera.
@7Kronos Oh good god, did bill gates design the Caesar? The first thing you loose in war is RELIABLE communications. If the crew doesn't have the coordinates then the gun don't fire. Wasn't some one talking about a BAE EMP warhead?
@astrialkil Oh man, you are a saver. I don't think anyone involved in its developpments thought what you said. I GOT TO FORWARD your genius arguments, the french army needs to know !!!
The Volvo chassis that the Archer is based on is designed for extreme off road use in mining applications, and is articulating, so I don't think Caesar could compete with it off road. The Archer is NBC enclosed, and fired from inside. The Archer also has a 20 round magazine, which the crew can empty without exiting the cab. All of which the Caesar cannot. I would say that the price difference and weight are the only pros to the Caesar.
You are comparing oranges with apples. The Archer is like a poor-man self-propelled Howitzer. It weighs a bit less but its large volume make it rather useless on a strategic level. The Caesar is a very different concept. It's basically a gun attached to a truck to increase mobility and ease logistic. It's a very strategic weapon than can be easily deployed anywhere.
defeated? the krauts lost the the war so how were the allies defeated. the genetic disorders were introduced by the normans who actually came from normandy ( france ) . and you have a strange need to boast about your cousin's sexual need like you were already there hahahaha
the retarded frenchy cant drive, hence the death of the princess. charly might be gay. went from a beautiful woman to a bitch with a face like a busted arsehole. the queen is old so I would be worried if you found her attractive. thatcher had more balls than any froggy etc. just because you froggy's were butt fucked by the poms and germans throughout history there is no need to get your panties all in a twist. best if you lube up and bend over for the arabs (muslims) are coming haha
S'il ne tire pas c'est que ce n'est pas l'objectif de la démonstration. L'objectif est de montrer la rapidité de mise en oeuvre du caesar, et sa capacité de repli. Les intervenants ont déjà vu un canon de 155mm tiré, ce n'est pas ça l'important. Cette démonstration est faite pour exporter le matériel d'ou les traductions derrières, et ça suffit.
le but de la présentattion n'est pas de tirer un obu comme dit précédement et il faut qu'il y ai aussi un endroit ou tirer au loin et si oui il faut aussi une autorisation des communes frappées mème si c'est dans les bois il faut s'assurer que personne ne s'y trouve et tous les élus ne souhaite pas que des tires s'effectuent, n'oubliez pas que c'est eurosatory.
J'ai l'impression de passer pour un imbecile mais, mon commentaire était a caractere ironique, les test de tir, non, en aucun cas lieu sur des sites quelquonque! Je precise car je passe un peu pour un con. Sur ce, bon visionnage.
That's the point of the CAESAR, it's a light anti-counter artillery cannon. Firing his shots and then quickly moving away from the firing sight to avoid ennemy counter-artillery shots.
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come on america,,,
america can make it many trucks with 155MM gun
bestamerica 6 months ago
omg this is soo much manual artillery... it need 4 crew to operate... all modern sistems can be operated by 2 soldiers and they dont even need to get out of the truck...
1989WOX 1 year ago
@1989WOX
Nope, he is fully automatized in terms of targeting and firing. It can be operated by only 2 soldiers, but standard french artillery unit are 4 mens.
chenoir 11 months ago
@1989WOX of course yeah in disney world maybe. How do you reload if you stay in the truck idiot. Caesar is the fastest artillery in deployment, it is fully automated, receives coordonnates automaticaly, with manual override if needed. The Caesar is so fast that when rounds hit the targets, it already left the area.
7Kronos 11 months ago
@7Kronos "How do you reload if you stay in the truck idiot" AAAAHAHAH :D in what century do u live ?!? do u know that colour TV is invented ?!!? :D
1989WOX 11 months ago
@1989WOX ok proove us that an american truck gun 155 mn needs nobody to reload ! the french 155 mn is automatic . i have seen american gun in afghanistan they are still using cranks to manipulate the gun and reload manuelly
herald1007 1 month ago
@1989WOX look at this american video "Taliban dying! Artillery fire in Afghanistan (Pech river Valley)" they are using cranks to manipulate the artillery . it s not automatic at all .
herald1007 1 month ago
archers have heavy weights, and aren't be able to work in mountain, sand ...if i have to choose i vote for the caesar!
eikkkN 1 year ago
french artillery <3
aaamondieu 1 year ago
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nawaf2422 1 year ago
All in all, the best artillery is the German PzH2000 (not a serbian or another american stuff), but with 55t, this isn't an artillery that you can deploy easily..
ArtsonDuorp 1 year ago 2
@ArtsonDuorp The caesar is actualy the best piece of artillery due to his rate of fire, range and mobility.
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ZoreX83 1 year ago
As far as the Caesar vs. Archer argument goes, if I was leader of a medium sized country with threatening neighbors, but I didn't otherwise expect to deploy my forces overseas that often, I would 100% go for the Archer.
Beau74 1 year ago
That thing is so damn slow.How can it be effiecent on the battlefield?
lundholm4 1 year ago
@lundholm4 First, the ceasar is the faster system of his category. The vehicle can change his position before the hit. It makes it impossible to be hit by an other artillery (or the other side need a CRAZY luck...).
Then, an artillery isn't made to be on the front-line of the battlefield...
ArtsonDuorp 1 year ago
Even Serbian "NORA-B52-K0" is much faster than this thing!!! And it has SELF-PROPELLED 155mm GUN-HOWITZER, inside cab automated firing controls... And comparing Caesar with Archer is stupid because Archer is just perfect, and YES, it is perfectly expensive all so.... So, Nora B-52 is very good solution !!! yes, I'm from Serbia...
milek021 2 years ago
archer is far better yes its expensive but hey you pay for Quality.
3dkiller 2 years ago
What an idiot. The Archer is fat ass 30 T artillery system, the Caesar is half that weight. The archer cannot do what the Caesar is intended to do.
TemplarX2 2 years ago
@3dkiller
Only on a rate of fire, Archer is better, in others Caesar is :
-less mechanisms, less failures
-more men who can replace an other, not a mechanism
-possibility of continuous shooting for Caesar, Archer once emptied its magazine need to recharge (during this time it's not operational).
-ability to climb more better for Caesar cause mass better distributed than the Archer (on the 2 extremities). Some pb when climbing or an extremity blocked.
-best inclination of fire for Caesar
winphet 1 year ago
@winphet well i have to admit you got a good point.
3dkiller 1 year ago
Super material is well worth all copies and imitations that can look elsewhere.
FredAndCoInc 2 years ago
Archer system is much more advanced then what we see here.
LokiG36 2 years ago
And a LOT more expensive.
MokomaSusi 2 years ago 4
Not the Archer is not better, it is a calf which weighs more than thirty tons. An imitation, one more and this costing nearly 10 times more expensive.
FredAndCoInc 2 years ago
This system looks ok, but it kinda sucks that the crew has to dismount to fire it. I think that the BAE Archer is probably better in that respect. Everything is controlled from inside the cab.
These are probably less expensive to buy though. Still get the job done.
EruditeCanadian 2 years ago 5
This give some physical exercice to the crew :D
Anyway, it is a very little detail, the sabots are still in fly to their zone of impact while the crew move again.
The most important is that CAESAR is digitaly linked to central combat systems so the crew doesn't have to enter any coordonates. It aims and fire on its own, while the crew reload and cover the aera.
7Kronos 2 years ago
@7Kronos Oh good god, did bill gates design the Caesar? The first thing you loose in war is RELIABLE communications. If the crew doesn't have the coordinates then the gun don't fire. Wasn't some one talking about a BAE EMP warhead?
astrialkil 1 year ago
@astrialkil Oh man, you are a saver. I don't think anyone involved in its developpments thought what you said. I GOT TO FORWARD your genius arguments, the french army needs to know !!!
7Kronos 1 year ago
yup but it can fire about 40km so it doesnt really matters that the crew must dismount...
RagingBull2A 2 years ago
The archer is 30 T you dumbwit. Two completely different platform. The Caesar is half the weight and is far more maneuvrable and transportable.
TemplarX2 2 years ago 4
@TemplarX2
No need for name calling.
The Volvo chassis that the Archer is based on is designed for extreme off road use in mining applications, and is articulating, so I don't think Caesar could compete with it off road. The Archer is NBC enclosed, and fired from inside. The Archer also has a 20 round magazine, which the crew can empty without exiting the cab. All of which the Caesar cannot. I would say that the price difference and weight are the only pros to the Caesar.
EruditeCanadian 1 year ago
You are comparing oranges with apples. The Archer is like a poor-man self-propelled Howitzer. It weighs a bit less but its large volume make it rather useless on a strategic level. The Caesar is a very different concept. It's basically a gun attached to a truck to increase mobility and ease logistic. It's a very strategic weapon than can be easily deployed anywhere.
TemplarX2 1 year ago 3
Ave Cesar !!! this is probably one of the best weapon speaking about Artillery .
The brit's used smaller ones on Jeeps in fighting the Afrika korps ...they ( the LRDG ) had some real good sporadic results on the battlefield ..
so : we built a bigger model , faster , with a bigger bore and a longer range ...
much more reliable .
where's the fucking problem ?
I was told that the Mathilda tank is still in use in the British Army ... is dat right ?
gibsonfr 2 years ago
defeated? the krauts lost the the war so how were the allies defeated. the genetic disorders were introduced by the normans who actually came from normandy ( france ) . and you have a strange need to boast about your cousin's sexual need like you were already there hahahaha
neegerh8tr 2 years ago
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the retarded frenchy cant drive, hence the death of the princess. charly might be gay. went from a beautiful woman to a bitch with a face like a busted arsehole. the queen is old so I would be worried if you found her attractive. thatcher had more balls than any froggy etc. just because you froggy's were butt fucked by the poms and germans throughout history there is no need to get your panties all in a twist. best if you lube up and bend over for the arabs (muslims) are coming haha
neegerh8tr 2 years ago
@neegerh8tr go fuck yourself
jetaddicted 2 years ago
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gibsonfr 2 years ago 2
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for a poxy frog you speak good english. By the way if it wasn't for english speaking poeple your pox ridden country would still be a german outpost
neegerh8tr 2 years ago
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gibsonfr 2 years ago
dunkirk, it took longer to get off the beach than it took for the krauts to over run the whole of france froggy haha
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gibsonfr 2 years ago
Disneyland does it 500% better
Ndriana 2 years ago
many armies prefer track SP artillery. wheeled artillery are only a bit more better then the towed artillery.
phadil 2 years ago
swedish ARCHER system is 100% better
acidant14 2 years ago
And propbably atleast 5x more expensive. Norway did buy 24 Archers and ended up paying over 10 million a vehicle... lol
MokomaSusi 2 years ago
A Russian 300% better.
DimonixRussia 2 years ago
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P'tin l'armée francaise est a la dech on a même plus le quoi se payer des obus ^^
damage c'est un bon materiel n'empeche
rosmiatijtm 3 years ago
S'il ne tire pas c'est que ce n'est pas l'objectif de la démonstration. L'objectif est de montrer la rapidité de mise en oeuvre du caesar, et sa capacité de repli. Les intervenants ont déjà vu un canon de 155mm tiré, ce n'est pas ça l'important. Cette démonstration est faite pour exporter le matériel d'ou les traductions derrières, et ça suffit.
bushi835 3 years ago 13
le but de la présentattion n'est pas de tirer un obu comme dit précédement et il faut qu'il y ai aussi un endroit ou tirer au loin et si oui il faut aussi une autorisation des communes frappées mème si c'est dans les bois il faut s'assurer que personne ne s'y trouve et tous les élus ne souhaite pas que des tires s'effectuent, n'oubliez pas que c'est eurosatory.
titiboo90 3 years ago
J'ai l'impression de passer pour un imbecile mais, mon commentaire était a caractere ironique, les test de tir, non, en aucun cas lieu sur des sites quelquonque! Je precise car je passe un peu pour un con. Sur ce, bon visionnage.
rosmiatijtm 3 years ago 2
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Oh maybe it didn't fire because the Germans are at the gate.
wdwilliams1967 3 years ago
Usual fucktard, i can lend you my nickname, it will be more useful for you.
Brainless78 3 years ago 10
Well, is it going fire anything ? ....... guess not.
wdwilliams1967 3 years ago
it's not the goal of the demonstration.
titiboo90 3 years ago
Artillery Means : "Art Of Delivery" In Malays "Seni Penghantaran Jauh"
stormfusion8088 4 years ago
wich year its made? cuz i think the Panzerhowitzer 2000 (PzH2000) is pretty better, because it is just like a tank.
thadutchguy 4 years ago
it's not the same category of atillery inform you before speeeking
titiboo90 3 years ago 2
very fast !
gamemakerman100 4 years ago
That's the point of the CAESAR, it's a light anti-counter artillery cannon. Firing his shots and then quickly moving away from the firing sight to avoid ennemy counter-artillery shots.
claventin 4 years ago 5