Amy caused intense suffering to this horse due to her own disgusting selfishness. I refuse to believe that anyone riding at this level can fail to feel a fatally lamed horse under them. And those of you teenaged idiots on here defending her need to look at yourselves and think more carefully about who you want to support in the future.
Do they expect the rider to see the horse from a ground veiw while mounted? I don't think so. I think some people should think before they critisize would-class riders. Amy is'nt stupid; she loved him, and he loved her. She respects her animals, cares for their safety (Poggio got Best Conditioned Horse at Rolex). This was tragic for her. She doesn't need the world spitting and hissing at her; she is the best critic for herself.
@RingoEventer - "Do they expect the rider to see the horse from a ground veiw while mounted? I don't think so." - NO - We EXPECT a rider of her calibre to FEEL when a horse has completely broken down. I would expect a CHILD at a local hunter trial to feel that and PULL UP. There is no excuse under the sun for it no matter how you skirt round the issue and try to defend her. I'm sure she's haunted by this but nobody should be looking up to her as an example and trying to justify what happened.
@AdrenalineArt Whoa... first of all, you're not an Olympic medalist, and second, you don't know better than she would. I don't want to blow up, but sometimes I feel I need to defend her. I respect her greatly, I have seen her horses and her facility, I am beginning to take lessons with her, and I saw her ride in a show... I think I would know her better than anyone here. And I'm surprised at your comment, I've watched many of your videos and I would expect you to have more respect, I guess not
@RingoEventer -You don't have to be an Olympic medalist to feel when a horse's supporting ligaments explode! I'm shocked the way you blatantly don't care about the horses welfare and can accept the fact she continued with a horse virtually on three legs. I'm not showing lack of respect, I looked at this having been in a forum discussion on H&H where people were up in arms about her. I respect Amy Tryon very much, she is a decent rider but why on earth she chose to continue nobody knows.
@AdrenalineArt Don't care about the horse? Now you think you know better than ME? Some people... And "why on earth she chose to continue nobody knows", absolutely correct. She made a choice, but it was HERS. No one can say that they knew better or would do something different if they were in her position because of one simple fact: they weren't.
@RingoEventer - Oh and you saying "Nobody was in her position" Cough cough, hundreds of riders have been in her position and those I have seen pull up sharpish. Riders value their horses more than some finish line and I've seen countless riders pull over when horses aren't even visibly lame because they can feel something is wrong. Now the fact that the crowd was yelling to pull up, officials were flagging her and her horse was virtually on its knees tells you something....?
@AdrenalineArt Mm... hundreds, eh? Hundreds have had horses ligaments explode on the Rolex course? And all riders pull up "sharpish"? And the Olympic show jumper who's horse died from heat exhastion? Was that necessarily HIS fault? Did his whole career come crashing down? Yes. Do your words with which you try to educate me with "tell me something"? No. You're trying to turn my words into something else so you can be "the good guy". Nice try, but there are no good and bad guys in this argument.
@RingoEventer-Please don't pull the "she's an olympic medalist, she knows better" line, the general consencus of the public and fellow event riders is that anyone in their right minds would pull up and know better. If she can ride a fabulous dressage which requires skill and feel, she definitley felt that. What did it gain her? I wrote everything back there with respect to all, much worse things have been said believe me. Amy admitted herself it was a mistake, so why are you defending her?
@RingoEventer- also please don't pull the "she's an olympic medalist, she knows better" line, the general consencus of the public and fellow event riders is that anyone in their right minds would pull up and know better. If she can ride a fabulous dressage which requires skill and feel, she definitley felt that. What did it gain her? I wrote everything back there with respect to all, much worse things have been said believe me. Amy admitted herself it was a mistake, so why are you defending her?
@AdrenalineArt No one can say that they would do differently. Who knows, you may have done the same, I may have. Not because we "don't care about the horses welfare", but because we were in her situation. I don't think she made the right choice, nor the wrong. I defend her because random people who take their little lessons and go to their little shows barge in here and blab all about how they "know better". Also, the fact that you come on and diss my comments of support for her drives me mad.
@RingoEventer - I can catagorically say I would NOT have done what she did. I think many people in this country would find that notion appalling and the fact you dount what you would have done makes me seriously question what the heck they teach you!
@AdrenalineArt All right, good for you, but the whole world may STILL have hated and screamed at you. It still may have ruined your career. Now she offers lessons to 14 year olds for the price of western pleasure lessons. It makes me want to cry for her. I don't care what this country thinks, as we know, it tend to be demanding and jump to conclusions far too soon. "What the heck" they teach me is to live up to my dreams and believe in myself, the most important advice anyone could have.
@RingoEventer - The world would have hated and screamed at someone for pulling their horse up? Erm....why? Oh fair enough they teach you that, perhaps not any common sense though.
@AdrenalineArt Now you claim they have no common sense? Erm... why? My statement totally flew over your head... you have to actually think back, before anything happened, wayyyyyyyy back. But, of course, you have to expell the biased thoughts before you attemp understanding this, I experienced that, and succeeded. They never taught me this, of course. Life taught me this.
@RingoEventer respect is earned I'm afraid and the way Amy behaved during the incident and after did her no favours. You cannot defend the indefensible. Oh and you do not have to be an Olympic medallist to know when your horse is lame or sound so believe me that is no defence.
@SirenaXVI Look, I don't mean to be rude at all, but I seriously don't care about what you think. -__- Nothing you say can change what I think, so don't bother. I already got in a huge fight over this and it's totally not worth it. It's very disrespectful to the artist of this video and just makes enemies... I have no interest in doing that.
@RingoEventer she made a mistake and the horse paid for it. There is NO WAY on this earth that a rider of Amy's experience would not have felt the horse was lame. If she had pulled the horse up when the breakdown happened NO ONE would have criticised her, the fact is she made the excuse that the horse had locked onto the jump when all who watched the video could see the poor animal trying to stop and her pushing him on.
Amy Tryon is my equestrian hero. Boarding my horse a few miles from her barn, I will look up to her until I die. Some people who no nothing about what it's like to ride an event horse say that she did it for greed, but they don't know what they're talking about! That horse was going so fast; (trust me, my horse had lameness problems a while ago, and on him (he's 16.2) I couldn't even feel he was off. My trainer had to tell me! (yeah I felt REALLY bad))
I do not think it as her fault that he stumbled but she had tiem to pull him up before before the lat jump and she should have. He was clearly in pain even the annoucner could see it
i really have to say you are stupid and need some education... the vet reports said he would have had to be put down even if she had pulled over... she did that last jump for him!!
All his supporting ligaments exploded or something I believe. he stumbled after a fence and instead of being pulled up they continued going and jumped the last fence even though he was limping and stumbling like crazy.
He stumbled before the jump. Many think it was Amy Tryon's ignorance, I think otherwise. Many people think Amy just wanted to win; but how could she on a lame horse? She's an excellent rider. She's not stupid.
Sorry for the explosion.. lol. I'm sad I'm not going to RK3DE this year, but I'm too busy competing my own horse. Otherwise I'd go and see his grave.
Amy caused intense suffering to this horse due to her own disgusting selfishness. I refuse to believe that anyone riding at this level can fail to feel a fatally lamed horse under them. And those of you teenaged idiots on here defending her need to look at yourselves and think more carefully about who you want to support in the future.
thesophies9 5 months ago
Do they expect the rider to see the horse from a ground veiw while mounted? I don't think so. I think some people should think before they critisize would-class riders. Amy is'nt stupid; she loved him, and he loved her. She respects her animals, cares for their safety (Poggio got Best Conditioned Horse at Rolex). This was tragic for her. She doesn't need the world spitting and hissing at her; she is the best critic for herself.
Great video! I love it!!! :D
RingoEventer 1 year ago
@RingoEventer - "Do they expect the rider to see the horse from a ground veiw while mounted? I don't think so." - NO - We EXPECT a rider of her calibre to FEEL when a horse has completely broken down. I would expect a CHILD at a local hunter trial to feel that and PULL UP. There is no excuse under the sun for it no matter how you skirt round the issue and try to defend her. I'm sure she's haunted by this but nobody should be looking up to her as an example and trying to justify what happened.
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt Whoa... first of all, you're not an Olympic medalist, and second, you don't know better than she would. I don't want to blow up, but sometimes I feel I need to defend her. I respect her greatly, I have seen her horses and her facility, I am beginning to take lessons with her, and I saw her ride in a show... I think I would know her better than anyone here. And I'm surprised at your comment, I've watched many of your videos and I would expect you to have more respect, I guess not
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer -You don't have to be an Olympic medalist to feel when a horse's supporting ligaments explode! I'm shocked the way you blatantly don't care about the horses welfare and can accept the fact she continued with a horse virtually on three legs. I'm not showing lack of respect, I looked at this having been in a forum discussion on H&H where people were up in arms about her. I respect Amy Tryon very much, she is a decent rider but why on earth she chose to continue nobody knows.
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt Don't care about the horse? Now you think you know better than ME? Some people... And "why on earth she chose to continue nobody knows", absolutely correct. She made a choice, but it was HERS. No one can say that they knew better or would do something different if they were in her position because of one simple fact: they weren't.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer - Oh and you saying "Nobody was in her position" Cough cough, hundreds of riders have been in her position and those I have seen pull up sharpish. Riders value their horses more than some finish line and I've seen countless riders pull over when horses aren't even visibly lame because they can feel something is wrong. Now the fact that the crowd was yelling to pull up, officials were flagging her and her horse was virtually on its knees tells you something....?
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt Mm... hundreds, eh? Hundreds have had horses ligaments explode on the Rolex course? And all riders pull up "sharpish"? And the Olympic show jumper who's horse died from heat exhastion? Was that necessarily HIS fault? Did his whole career come crashing down? Yes. Do your words with which you try to educate me with "tell me something"? No. You're trying to turn my words into something else so you can be "the good guy". Nice try, but there are no good and bad guys in this argument.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer-Please don't pull the "she's an olympic medalist, she knows better" line, the general consencus of the public and fellow event riders is that anyone in their right minds would pull up and know better. If she can ride a fabulous dressage which requires skill and feel, she definitley felt that. What did it gain her? I wrote everything back there with respect to all, much worse things have been said believe me. Amy admitted herself it was a mistake, so why are you defending her?
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@RingoEventer- also please don't pull the "she's an olympic medalist, she knows better" line, the general consencus of the public and fellow event riders is that anyone in their right minds would pull up and know better. If she can ride a fabulous dressage which requires skill and feel, she definitley felt that. What did it gain her? I wrote everything back there with respect to all, much worse things have been said believe me. Amy admitted herself it was a mistake, so why are you defending her?
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt No one can say that they would do differently. Who knows, you may have done the same, I may have. Not because we "don't care about the horses welfare", but because we were in her situation. I don't think she made the right choice, nor the wrong. I defend her because random people who take their little lessons and go to their little shows barge in here and blab all about how they "know better". Also, the fact that you come on and diss my comments of support for her drives me mad.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer - I can catagorically say I would NOT have done what she did. I think many people in this country would find that notion appalling and the fact you dount what you would have done makes me seriously question what the heck they teach you!
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt All right, good for you, but the whole world may STILL have hated and screamed at you. It still may have ruined your career. Now she offers lessons to 14 year olds for the price of western pleasure lessons. It makes me want to cry for her. I don't care what this country thinks, as we know, it tend to be demanding and jump to conclusions far too soon. "What the heck" they teach me is to live up to my dreams and believe in myself, the most important advice anyone could have.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer - The world would have hated and screamed at someone for pulling their horse up? Erm....why? Oh fair enough they teach you that, perhaps not any common sense though.
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt Now you claim they have no common sense? Erm... why? My statement totally flew over your head... you have to actually think back, before anything happened, wayyyyyyyy back. But, of course, you have to expell the biased thoughts before you attemp understanding this, I experienced that, and succeeded. They never taught me this, of course. Life taught me this.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer - Remember the little voice you get when you're taking things a wee bit too far....yeah
AdrenalineArt 5 months ago
@AdrenalineArt Ha, don't we both? This was totally not worth fighting over... Sorry this had to happen. (and sorry weloveyoubarbaro, eek) :'(
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer respect is earned I'm afraid and the way Amy behaved during the incident and after did her no favours. You cannot defend the indefensible. Oh and you do not have to be an Olympic medallist to know when your horse is lame or sound so believe me that is no defence.
SirenaXVI 5 months ago
@SirenaXVI Look, I don't mean to be rude at all, but I seriously don't care about what you think. -__- Nothing you say can change what I think, so don't bother. I already got in a huge fight over this and it's totally not worth it. It's very disrespectful to the artist of this video and just makes enemies... I have no interest in doing that.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
@RingoEventer she made a mistake and the horse paid for it. There is NO WAY on this earth that a rider of Amy's experience would not have felt the horse was lame. If she had pulled the horse up when the breakdown happened NO ONE would have criticised her, the fact is she made the excuse that the horse had locked onto the jump when all who watched the video could see the poor animal trying to stop and her pushing him on.
SirenaXVI 5 months ago
Oh and the fact that she has shown no remorse publicly for her 'mistake' has not helped her case
SirenaXVI 5 months ago
Amy Tryon is my equestrian hero. Boarding my horse a few miles from her barn, I will look up to her until I die. Some people who no nothing about what it's like to ride an event horse say that she did it for greed, but they don't know what they're talking about! That horse was going so fast; (trust me, my horse had lameness problems a while ago, and on him (he's 16.2) I couldn't even feel he was off. My trainer had to tell me! (yeah I felt REALLY bad))
RingoEventer 1 year ago 2
@RingoEventer You couldn't feel your horse was off because he's 16.2? WTF has his height got to do with lameness?
thesophies9 5 months ago
@thesophies9 Don't "WTF" me. Just take care of yourself in life.
RingoEventer 5 months ago
what a horse almost TOO willing to please i cant help but think if things would be different if Amy had pulled up earlier
izzitreal 3 years ago
we will all miss sparkey. he was a great horse and a true joy to the barn
momothehorselover 3 years ago 3
I do not think it as her fault that he stumbled but she had tiem to pull him up before before the lat jump and she should have. He was clearly in pain even the annoucner could see it
weloveyoubarbaro 4 years ago
i really have to say you are stupid and need some education... the vet reports said he would have had to be put down even if she had pulled over... she did that last jump for him!!
zapmehometommorow 3 years ago
Ya, Poor Le Samurai
cowgal58 4 years ago
All his supporting ligaments exploded or something I believe. he stumbled after a fence and instead of being pulled up they continued going and jumped the last fence even though he was limping and stumbling like crazy.
weloveyoubarbaro 4 years ago
He stumbled before the jump. Many think it was Amy Tryon's ignorance, I think otherwise. Many people think Amy just wanted to win; but how could she on a lame horse? She's an excellent rider. She's not stupid.
Sorry for the explosion.. lol. I'm sad I'm not going to RK3DE this year, but I'm too busy competing my own horse. Otherwise I'd go and see his grave.
iloveshaunapony 4 years ago
@iloveshaunapony I totally agree! Finally, someone who actually can see clearly!! :)
RingoEventer 5 months ago
He was just like Barbaro, Brave,Strong, and A fighter. RIP Sparky
cowgal58 4 years ago
what happened to this horse?
creaturelover 4 years ago
that horse really tried. <3
Nickersss 4 years ago