Legally Binding

[gaschambers1]

EVERYONE needs to realize the old DELTA is dead and gone, along with the handshake deal and my word is my bond. You're working for a giant coorperation to which you are just a number with a cost associated with it, if they can lower that cost with another number/person, they're going to because they're in the business of making money, not supporting your family. Here's to AFA, and here's to us, may we keep the union and keep our jobs...

[goldsgymdude]

@gaschambers1 I just love this video--the claim that Richard Anderson has a contract is totally untrue. Many of the things that AFA purports is slanted, mis guided and outright false hood. I don't need to pay dues to get mis information and untruths. They 'claim' an "industry leading contract'. Just look at the leading contracts UA/US wow, that's really industry leading!

[Minnsue]

I know there are many DL FA's who believe the Company will take care of them. But, you have to look at where the NWA/DL top management came from to realize that those days are Gone!

Many of the Top Brass came from Continental via NWA and got their start with Frank Lorenzo.

When 9-11 hit, NWA (Anderson) asked the employees to take a paycut. Shortly after, they announced that Mgmt was getting their Bonuses! When asked how could this be? Richard said - "It's In their CONTRACT"

Remember This!

[Minnsue]

Great Comments & Great Video!

But I need to reply to some misconceptions. alkuha2 & DLDahlie & circuitstormin asked what did the contract get for NWA? Better Sick Leave, which also carries over. (Do you think that DL would have increased yours IF the NWA AFA issue was already solved??)

Plus, the NWA medical is better & doesn't cost as much. (may need that $43 a month for that)

Plus, NWA F/A's Don't have a Social Security Offset.

( I KNOW is more than $43!!).

Something to think about.

[ProDeltaProAFA]

Great job to all our fellow flight attendants in the video! This is an exciting time - we are going to set the standard and we can do it, together! Its ridiculous to say AFA would not "award" us with a contract. WE Delta and Northwest flight attendants will be negotiating with Delta, not some nebulous "AFA". We are professionals and we are more than capable to negotiate our own legal contract, just like the pilots and the executives do. Pro-Delta - Pro-AFA and a proud flight attendant.

[DLDahlie]

UA & US Airway have funded the DL organizing for years; AFA National will not award DL a "triple crown contract" because of their sacrifice. Our NWA colleagues are already wearing DL uniforms, serving DL product and finding themselves more on DL branded metal. They deserve DL branded pay as well, but a contract prevents this from happening. This "voice" happens every 7-9 years when a contract is ratified. We would not vote on all issues/side letters/contract amendments. My $43 to 401K not afa!

[DLDahlie]

I disagree. UAL's Dear AFA clearly shows the complexity of negotiations. A 5/22 msg. states, "The 3rd session of Negotiations concluded this week. We were able to reach agreement and conclude negotiations on Sec. 20Physical Examinations. There are 35 Sections of the Contract; bringing to a total of 4 concluded sections. Negotiations continue to be slow and arduous." By AFA's admission, it takes a long time to get an industry-leading contract. They are not starting from scratch like we would.

[ifly1988]

3:08 - So true!

[slamclick]

CONTRACT is what matters. I don't care which group you or anyone else is complaining about. You can complain about the management, the union at the time, but I want a CONTRACT IN WRITING. I don't want to function for a booklet of ideas and procedures, which can change as often as an e mail is senT. I WANT AN AGREEMENT IN WRITING - CONTRACT

[kimdegaulle]

Yes, you can deduct your dues; good point. Anyone counting on anyone 'doing the right thing' is naive.  Business is business and it's done with a contract in hand.

[miamikittycat]

Even if a contract/union isn't perfect, it does get you better than "a snowballs chance in hell", which is what you have w/o one. The dues are partly tax-deductable btw. I'm not saying AFA is perfect but it's better than nothing. If you were charged with murder don't you think it would be better to hire an imperfect lawyer, rather than try to defend yourself?, an extreme analogy, I know, but you get the point.

[slcerasa]

Preachnot -

The company will break the contract, thats why you have a grievance procedure. You win some and you lose some.

At United didn't AFA win a wage grievance worth over $47 million dollars? This is all money that goes into the flight attendants pockets.

[kimdegaulle]

I hope the flight attendants at Delta that you tried to get to vote for AFA in the past take your advice and vote for AFA.

Good luck with your contract negotiations; you will fare better than counting on your bosses to do right by you. Goodnight

[kimdegaulle]

I have never experienced that in all the years I've been flying. I don't have the same experience you've had. I don't know anyone that has had the experience you've had. I know thousands that believe AFA is a viable, best option. They are the people that will be voting. It sounds as if you have had disjointed ventures at UAL. It is atypical.

[preachnot]

This is not atypical at UAL. I have more than 21 years of flying. This is the norm with UAL. I am not the minority here at UAL. There are a lot of members that feel the way I do. I have worked behind the seens at AFA. I have done more than my share of volunteer work for AFA. I have worked many informational picket lines for UAL. I have also been part of trying to get Delta FAs to come join the Union in the past. So I do know what I am talking about. If, your happy with AFA then that is great.

[preachnot]

OOPs AFA not UAL regarding the informational picket lines.

[kimdegaulle]

If you had no contract you believe they'd take care of you? No logical thinking...

[preachnot]

No, what I am saying is. That AFA sucks as a Union. They lost their way a long time ago. They are in it for the money they make from their members. That is what I am saying.

[preachnot]

Also, a contract can be good if there is teeth to back it up when it is violated.

[kimdegaulle]

I don't know what that means. AFA grieved something and won, disputing your last post, thus cementing what I've been saying. A contract is best for business interests as opposed to whatever you're insinuating. I really don't understand your post.

[preachnot]

When it comes to the big things, they lose or nothing happens. The company continues to violate the contract at the expense of the employee. The Union keeps getting the Union dues at the expense of the members. We at UAL keep losing more and more. When every contract comes up for renewal. The promises are made and yet we never get what they ask for.

[kimdegaulle]

You are again absolutely incorrect. AFA does not always lose and, in fact, when necessary go to bat relentlessly for the flight attendant group. They win many grievances. Case in point, at NW the flight attendants were just granted a second pair of wings because it was contested by AFA. Delta was not going to freely give a second pair. Now, if there was no union there would have been no grieving process in place. No wings gratis. A contract is best for business. There's a lot broken at DL

[preachnot]

Oh, yea. Here, UAL hold out your hand I need to slap it. OUCH

[preachnot]

Oh such the win, a pair of wings. How about this forcing us to work over our duty days max. If you don't like grieve it. What do we has FAs get out of that grievance? I tell you what nothing, we still had to work 3 hours over our max duty. This is not a one time thing either. It happens all of the time at UAL.. Those are the facts when it comes to contracts. The contracts are violated all of the time.

[kimdegaulle]

Look, you're not writing anything that is helpful, so I was tired of hearing whatever it was you've tried to write. The prudent business decision is to have a contract. No one worth their salt does a transaction without a contract--period.

[preachnot]

Well if it isn't broken at Delta. There is nothing to fix.

Also, all contracts can be broken. How, many time has it happened with UAl. If, they violate our contract as a person. We are told to grieve it. What comes of it, nothing. When the company violates the contrack for all FAs. You threaten to take UAL to court and nothing. If it does go to court AFA always looses.

[preachnot]

AFA, has been trying for years to get the Delta FAs to join their Union. Guess what everytime the Delta FAs said NO!!!!!!

[kimdegaulle]

The intelligent choice is a contract. This won't resonate with you. Do you know what resonate means?

[preachnot]

Let me try and understand this, to make or prove your point? You have to insult me.

I see how that works. Good for you!!! It's a good tactic!

[kimdegaulle]

I don't believe anyone can understand your writing. You sound like a very disgruntled employee. Business requires a contract.

[preachnot]

So you about my writing. Also, so what if I am a digruntled emloyee? It still don't change the facts. The truth is the truth. Just so you know I have had many Orchard letters from pax and no onion letters. I am sure you kow what those are do you not?

[preachnot]

What about when they company would violate our contract. You would threaten them with court procedings and nothing came of them. You would make a show with threatening them with strickes, knowing that we could not legally do a strike. You are all show and no action.

[preachnot]

Kim, I see more promises you can't keep and more excuses why we lost everything. I speak the truth when it comes to AFA at United and how charges are handle at United. For all the UAl FAs out there that have had hearings with the company. They know I am telling the truth. I am not the minority at United.

[kimdegaulle]

What has just been written in inaccurate. The procedure is not even close to correct. If you do need to go in with an AFA representative and you speak with a manager and it's not satisfactorily resolved, it goes to a next tier. You receive due process. The contract this person speaks of, so eloquently, was during bankruptcy. Now we're the premier world class airline and we will command a world class contract.

[preachnot]

Delta FAs, I say run from AFA as fast as you can! At, my company we lost so much when it came time to renew our contracts. The pay cuts, work rules, duty time, lay over time, health benefits and so much more. Don't even get me started what happens if you are brought up on charges with the company. They have a AFA person their the Company has a Supervisor for their side. The person in charge of hearing and making the final decision in the case, is another Supervisor. They are the so call judge.

[kimdegaulle]

Oh, one more thing...if you had been at a company for 20, 30 or 40 years would you believe going to another company and starting over was a good option? The NW flight attendants have had a union for over 60 years and you're saying, "Screw you." A legal (this time) vote will decide our fate.

[kimdegaulle]

The problems that have plagued the auto industry in recent years have not been caused by unions, it's been poor management and exorbitant bonuses. Unions of today are in place, primarily, for job security. The decimation of industry, unionized or not, starts at the top. AFA works to legislate health and safety regulations, as well. So, yes, we will unionize, thanks for your support.

[preachnot]

Ha, what a Joke. I have 20 years with my airline. Who is AFA, they are only in it for the money they can make from new members. I use to be a good AFA member who try to get non AFA airlines to come into the fold. The line I was told to use is"There is strength in numbers" Blah Blay Blah. But when it came time to fight for our rights. They pump up their chest for show. Then nothing when the final decision came. They always had an excuse why AFA lost the battle with the company.

[dfwembalmer]

Yeah, go ahead Unionize....while you are filling out your union card, read the articles about what the UAW has done to GM, and how 21,000 of their UNION brothers and sisters are OUT OF A JOB because of the union's years of bleeding the company dry....GO AHEAD>>>>Screw up something good....You don't need the union...you have worked without it until now, things are good.....Tell all the NWA flight attendants that want a union that they can go to work for American or another unionized carrier.

[goldsgymdude]

@dfwembalmer EXACTLY. --R.Anderson does not have a contract, and ask the AFA to PROVE it, 'cause they can't. IF AFA was so great, they'd have Industry leading contracts at UA/US just to name 2. HA. Did the dues get cut when your pay got cut? Did the MEC at NW take a cut? Keep your money in your own pocket.

[kimdegaulle]

Yes, I believe we have a very unique opportunity to empower 21,000 individuals to have a voice. We are the AFA.  It isn't a lazy group of ne'er-do-wells. It's hard-working flight attendants with a work ethic. It's us...all we want is a contract to cement some semblance of job security. Not something for nothing....something for something. Simple.

[kimdegaulle]

One thing that happens with AFA that doesn't happen with mgt. is legislation. We have things like shoulder harnesses because of legislation, not negotiation. Management doesn't spend money on health and safety issues. AFA does. AFA spends money on a peer EAP; that saves lives. It also saves money in the long run for the company. A win-win. AFA is a lot more than you know or try to know.

[circuitstormin]

I'm sure the AFA would be more than happy to rush right in if we ever needed them. They've certainly been adamant about rushing in when we don't. And the AFA leaders are stranger to me than our management. Why do I want to pay them to "maybe" help me especially when I don't even need help.

[zenseo]

The "AFA" is an association of flight attendants that would include all of us. It means empowering ourselves to have a legal say in all things regarding our careers -- who knows that better than us? The Delta AFA leaders would be elected by us and they would be us -- again, certainly not strangers. We would be the largest and most powerful MEC in the global AFA structure. We are a brilliant group and I have great faith in our ability to work with management on an World Class Contract -- you?

[kimdegaulle]

Apparently, then you don't know much about organization. It is not going to happen; this is the final chance we have to guarantee our rights to a contract. I want a hand in my fate; I DO NOT want to count on the kindness of strangers...they will be strangers, too, as the management style now is a revolving 5 year door. We don't know who will be here in a couple of years. Do we count on these phantoms to do the right thing? NO. A contract precludes their whims. Open your eyes to reality.

[circuitstormin]

i believe a workgroup can organize a union whenever they want. so why create one now when we don't need it. waste of money. and it is gambling because we COULD loose things we enjoy now just as we MIGHT gain something out of a contract.. but nothing is certain.

when nothing is certain it is gambling unless you can show me THE contract we would have.

[kimdegaulle]

A contract is not gambling. It is a legally binding document. A promise and a handshake is gambling. It is implausible to organize later. It would be next to impossible to organize later. If you have much knowledge of what's going on you know that and it's deceptive to other flight attendants to act as if it's a valid option. If we lose our rights now it is finished--no do overs like before.

[circuitstormin]

We don't need a union. There's no reason to pay money for something that may or may not do anything for us. It sounds like gambling to me.

If management does something drastic (which I doubt), then I'm sure we will have no problem organizing. Until then, the AFA would be just another slot in my monthly budget sheet.

So, let's forget the union now and save ourselves the money and hassle.

[alkuha2]

What specifically has the contract done for NWA FA's, that DL FA's don't have? And moving forward, what will AFA do to better the lives of DL FA"s? If AFA is happy with DOH, lets stop the talking and put it to a vote. I'm sure everyone already has made up their mind for the most part. I know that NW FA's has long fought management, and who could forget the 101 ways to save money follies, fortunately that's all over. NWA new home is Delta Air Lines, the proud institution of the south.

[kimdegaulle]

To maintain job security with a contract is not greedy, it's prudent. DL today is not DL of yesterday. Many of the top management today have graduated from the "Frank Lorenzo Academy of How to Ruin an Airline". The proud tradition on DL is now in the hands of pillagers.

[alkuha2]

All of these folks look like pre-merger NW FA's. They dont have that I'm proud to be Delta shimmer that most Delta employees do. Case in point, AFA does not offer job security-Yes the airline can still furlough, terminate, and close it's doors, even if their is a contract. DL decided to integrate by date of hire which was AFA's suggestion, now they're unhappy with the list-people dont you see, DL get's things done without the added costs of dues, or interference of middlemen.

[notrational]

About 60% pre-merger NWA to 40% pre-merger Delta by my count. Perhaps more NWA due to the fact that they understand what it is like to work under a contract.

Please explain how AFA is unhappy with DOH integration. I don't believe that's true at all.

DL would not only still get things done with a contract, we would have a legal voice in how. We would help set the industry standards that will lead.  We would also share in the fruits of our labor.

[alkuha2]

We have peace in our home, and the most important reason is that we do not allow outsiders to dictate our family affairs. And just like any family, there are many give and takes, and compromises on the road to success. Wouldn't it be nice to finally have peace in you're home as well?

[zenseo]

The "union" is not an outsider -- it is the collective group of flight attendants. Having a legal voice ensures that we, the flight attendants, have a say regardless of what management team may step in. That "101 ways" guide you referred to was delivered under our former CEO Doug Steenland's tenure -- where does he sit now?  Yes, the Delta BOD. We are the "familly" that will be here 5, 10, and 20 years after the current executive team -- cetainly not outsiders.

[kimdegaulle]

Most people at Delta want a contract. If not for the ridiculous ruling by the NMB of not voting counting as a no vote Delta would be working with a contract. Hopefully, that unfair practice will change and a true consensus will be allowed to prevail. Again, most flight attendants at Delta want a contract.

[lambdatoys]

Plain and simple, contracts/unions/tenure etc all ensure overpayment for inadequate performance combined with forbidding management oftentimes to do as little as write someone up. Delta has propelled itself to the top exactly because it does NOT have contracts and HAS taken care of it's employees You've been there this long and done great, why now do you need to be greedy and insist on a contract? NO CONTRACT!

[notrational]

There is nothing in a contract that ensures overpayment of anything. A contract requires and ensures accountability on both sides. It is actually a good thing.

Delta is a great airline. Delta is changing. Delta needs to remain a great airline. Our voice in this is paramount. Our voice needs a contract.

[slcerasa]

Mr. dontneedafa..

You said,

"I don't want to work for the AFA. I know nothing about them. I don't know their people.:

You will work for Delta, and have the procetions of a contract. Nothing changes to who you work for.

If you know nothing about the Association of Flight Attendants perhaps you should educate yourself a bit before jumping to one side or the other. Making up your mind about something you know nothing about is not a smart thing to do.

...continued...

[slcerasa]

Lambdatoys you said...

"If Delta or anyone else won't offer that then you have the right to find a better job."

So you are saying we should just leave and quit instead of trying to ensure that we the industry leader in flight attendant compensation and benefits? "For instance, a plane will not fly without a pilot, but probably would without a FA. "

Actually, you cannot even have a passenger set foot on a plane without 1 flight attendant per 50 seats per the FAA.

[slcerasa]

...

The people of the Association of Flight Attendants are just that...flight attendants. Including all those in the video who you just saw and all your other coworkers. You see...its not like a group of mobsters like management likes to make you think, its the 21,000 flight attendants that are already at Delta. You already know your coworkers...or at least you should.

[kimdegaulle]

I don't know what "many people have left their jobs over" means, but management is going to take care of stockholders and themselves...that is their job. That's fine. The people in the video are employees that understand a contract is the way to take care of ourselves. Management isn't going to take care of us; it's not their concern. doneedafa.....

[dontneedafa]

If it's not their concern, then why are they taking care of us now? If all they care about is management and stockholders then why do the employees get a 15% cut every year on profits? If a contract is the way to take care of ourselves, then why are we doing fine without one?

"Many people have left their jobs over" means that I have talked to many people who have recently been hired at Delta who left their previous AFA led workforce precisely because of the AFA.

[dontneedafa]

Yes I'm afraid of a contract and just because I deserve one doesn't mean I want it. I don't want some non-profit company that many people have left their jobs over running my ship. I'm perfectly happy with management taking care of me.

You're right it's business. The AFA wants my money and this video is their marketing department hard at work.

[kimdegaulle]

Again, having a contract is the prudent business move. Anything else is not in my best interest. If I find something to be "silly" it is my prerogative to believe that sentiment.

[dontneedafa]

I do not agree with this. When I applied to Delta, I did a lot of research and knew it was Delta I wanted to work for. I don't want to work for the AFA. I know nothing about them. I don't know their people. Why do I want to pay them to have the ability to fire me? Why would I want to be a contracted worker when my company is treating me just fine? There is nothing silly about that.

[kimdegaulle]

Anyone believing this company is the Delta of yore is sorely mistaken. Please educate yourselves on who's running this new entity. You and I deserve a contract. You seem to fear the word 'contract' when it is just mutual respect between two parties. This is business.

[kimdegaulle]

I want to state again how important it is for all of us that work at Delta to vote for a contract. The pilots are working successfully with the company WITH a contract. It's preferable in this economy, it's preferable in any economy. It's smart.

[circuitstormin]

very mature to mark my responses as "SPAM" so that other youtube viewers do not readily see them. this must be the respect and open minded thinking we can expect from the AFA.

[AFAskygoddess]

If a contract is unnecessary for DL flight attendant , why does management work so hard to deny us one?

Why should DL management care if we choose to pay dues to an "unnecessary" union?

To "lambdatoys"How much money did you make last year? How much did you make in 2004?

Then see how much money Richard Anderson made in 2004 v. today. If a contract was such a bad thing, why does he have one?

If Richard Anderson can have a contract, why can't I?

We are NOT children of a lesser God!

[kimdegaulle]

I'm very positive about this merger and this campaign. We are professionals and, as such, warrant a contract. Anything less is silly rhetoric by people who don't understand business or are in management/flight attendant positions. Very convoluted business at DL...murky lines. Don't be fooled by mgt types and/or friends of mgt types. In this environment only a contract makes sense.

[SimplestBeauty]

That is too funny that they are playing games with the Youtube spam system to filter what they don't want others to see. LOL! So childish. ;)

[circuitstormin]

The AFA just wants your money. Don't throw it away to obtain a piece of paper that may or may not change anything (for better or worse). If you don't like Delta work rules, go work for someone else. If you're concerned about leaving because of your seniority, well.. you made it this far, is a piece of paper really going to make a difference for the next umpteen years of your career? AFA campaign techniques remind me of Karl Rove. Anyone agree?

[lambdatoys]

Well said circuitstormin, I couldn't agree more!! Delta FA's are great people who have made it this far without a contract and thus propelled Delta to the top. Why now, after all this success, do you suddenly wish to handicap your employer who has taken such good care of you?

[3411ewr]

I have a legally binding contract/agreement with my bank that loaned me the money for my condo, my car company, my cell phone, my cable company, my energy company, etc etc. Every business transaction is a legally binding contract. So, why would I not want one with the most important business transaction I do, MY EMPLOYER which pays all those other bills? It would be stupid not to have a contract with my employer that pays all those other contracts. VOTE YES!

[Catjustcat]

Guys, lets just stop to complain and start count out blessings. We have great job. How many Americans right now are losing theirs? Delta is great company to work for. There is no such a thing like a perfect job. You have a choice either see thorns or see roses.

[Catjustcat]

Media likes drama, you don't hear good news, only bad. This vidio is also full of drama. Delta provides for us good medical insurance, opportunity to travel for my family, flexible schedule. I like my job.

[3411ewr]

HAVING A CONTRACT WILL PROTECT ME FROM TROUBLE MAKERS! One run in with a trouble making manager or crew member can end a 30 year career at Delta. With a contract you have piece of mind, like an insurance policy, or having a lawyer when you goto court.  With a contract you know whats going to happen tomorrow and the next day due to agreeed guidlines. Consider the $43 a month an insurance policy against this. If you vote NO you need a drug test, because YOUR HIGH, not all there, brainwashed!

[blacleo96]

A waste of time. I am a NYC base DELTA flight attendant and the AFA will not get a vote from me. They take so much time to talk about all the things thet consier to be negative at DELTA and fail to focus on all the positives. Plus they have not posted any information giving specific explainations as to where $43 a month will go from the flight attendants. This video will not change my mind nor many of my colleages at Delta airlines.

[notrational]

What a contract can do is include you in the equation. Our executives know that our company is poised to be successful. Our pilots know that. The executives easily included the pilots in an industry leading contract. Our executives awarded themselves industry leading compensation. We are a major part of the equation. We have value. By having a contract we can exercise that value to it's fullest potential.

The company wins,

Our costumers win.

We win.

[flyr4life]

What union naysayers need to understand is that the "New Delta" management is the "Old Northwest" management. Maybe in the old company you had a voice, but now, that voice will fall on deaf ears. Management didn't get a contract because they're better educated or more experienced, they got a contract because they wanted job security and if they were given a contract then we should be given one too. You don't have to be pro-union to be pro-contract. Vote Yes for a Contract!

[lambdatoys]

Perhaps you missed the part of a free capitalistic society which is governed by choice. Your "voice" is the ability to leave Delta if conditions don't meet your demands to find gainful employment. Yes, management did get a contract, like all CEO's and Executives, precisely because they're valuable and the Free Market we call America decided that they're worth paying bonuses to and holding onto. You're not an executive or CEO and neither am I. WE don't deserve more than what we work for and earn.

[zenseo]

Are you saying that Delta flight attendants are not valuable? I think America has had enough of the inflated salaries of CEO's and the dwindling middle class. Collective bargaining is what built the middle class and it is what will restore it. WE DESERVE an industry leading contract since we work for a world class carrier.

[lambdatoys]

No, you DESERVE adequate pay for doing a good job. If Delta or anyone else won't offer that then you have the right to find a better job. On the contrary, I believe ALL Delta employees are valuable, but there are definitely levels of who is necessary. For instance, a plane will not fly without a pilot, but probably would without a FA. Hence, a bit more valuable. Though you miss my point entirely; Free market = No contract. Do a good job and you will know that you still have a job the next day.

[zenseo]

I find this post disrespectful to our profession -- flight attendants are absolutely necessary. Who will be called when there is a medical emergency? Who will prepare the cabin in the event of an emergency landing? Who is going to evacuate the aircraft? I wonder if management would agree with your post and that is why they think we should remain union-free?

[lambdatoys]

Y'all are crazy! It's a freaking JOB! Your contract is your good work performance. You do a good job you keep your job. If your work sucks, you're fired. What are you afraid of? Most of the us are not union and don't have a contract yet we do just fine and dandy. But NOOOO. You'd rather lock the company into a union like a anchor and sink then entire ship. Way to ruin the company!

[nhlancer]

it is not true that it is easier to get a union than decertify one!!

[PLaytham7]

Absolutely. Get it in writing. If it isn't in a contract, it doesn't exist. I too was raised on this business principal. So were our officers and managers. It is the only way to do business.

[LARobMA]

Ive always felt like I had a voice at Delta. We go directly to management instead of through a third party. Company policy has always been happy employees make happy customers. It has worked for decades. At Delta, we watch what other carriers bargain for and usually have it handed to us.

With a lot of new management, the Northwest way may be the new Delta way and we may very well need a union. But it is MUCH easier to get a union than to decertify one.

[slcerasa]

The process for decertification is the same as certification. 50%+1.

Let's try this, work together. Take care of all the maybe's and the if's.

Nothing is guaranteed in life, the future is full of IF's. A legally binding contract that we get to vote on...simply takes out alot of the IF's. Let's all work together and make this work.

It took 8 years to get the first vote, 8 years for teh vote last year. This is our freebie, this is our chance.

What can happen in the next 8 years?

[slamclick]

I've had 7 cars, 8 homes and two marriages. Contracts for all of them.  Contracts have a monetary value and are binding. They benefit all parties who sign them. vote Yes for a Contract!

[lovecallyxo]

The New Delta is slated to make a huge profit in 2009 and if we have a contract with management, we can also share in the wealth, like the pilots.

We are a force that is large and can be in charge, so vote Union and vote for Flight Attendants!!

[sandeers747]

I hope that every Delta and Northwest flight attendant who watches this video reflects on how reasonable and smart these flight attendants are in their explanations of the need for a contract. I hope we all wake up and realize that we deserve respect from Delta in the form of a legally binding, mutually negotiated contract that will benefit both the flight attendant group and Delta. Delta fa's want Delta to be successful and we want a voice at the table to create that success for all.

[Tweinfurtner]

All of you just amaze me. I continue to be humbled by your passion for the cause. The "new" Delta is going to be awesome...WITH A CONTRACT!!

[calflagal]

We need representation in Washington AND at the company. Lobbying is where it 's at these days. Our trips are getting longer; therefore we're out of touch for longer periods. How can we effectively be "in touch" without others protecting our rights while out of town? 'Divided we fall'. All bases and F/As are NOT treated equally. Wake up and smell the coffee. . Wouldn't you rather have someone else covering your back? Would you go to court without a lawyer?

[slcerasa]

In tihs economy, we need to stand together and work towards our common goal...job security and prosperity.

Please, lets all work together. Lets negotiate a contract and get it in writing.

This is for us, for all of us!

[769ha20]

Of course! First thing my dad ever taught me was get it in writing! Why do ALL of our CEO's and Mgt have one? Because they know it's the only way they can get what they feel they deserve. And if they leave, they get the Golden Parachute. Even with a contract we get nothin" so we need to protect ourselves. In this economy, no one will be loyal to us---Let's be smart and realistic about this

[zenseo]

Legally binding contract = mutual respect.

[lambdatoys]

yeah...smart and realistic. Lock them into a contract (aka anchor) so when business is down or your work performance is inferior they still can't get rid of you. Sounds realistic to me..if you want the company to fail. Unions encourage lazy workers and over payment for inferior performance. And BTW, stop comparing yourself to the CEO's and others at the company who have contracts. There's a huge difference: they have TONS of education and experience and tend to be very hard to replace.

[zenseo]

Lamb da toys-

Are you a flight attendant? Most airlines are unionized, even the most successful ones like Southwest. Being unionized and having a contract has nothing to do with protecting lazy workers, it has to do with believing you have value and protecting your career. Every Delta FA has experience and every one of them are worthy of an industry leading contract. The Executives talent can certainly adjust to us having a contract, don't you think?

[swanez]

YES!! This is solid, sane and smart!

[kimdegaulle]

This video shows no-nonsense reasoning as to why Delta flight attendants need a legally binding contract. How strange that there would be debate.