Say for instance I believe that homosexuality is NOT inborn I will be excoriated as a homophobe or that I am not only stupid but uninformed . However science currently backs my statement. True many have come forward with "proof" of a genetic causality, but when put through the scientific method the claims always fail.
The only hate and lies I see come from people who would put a tiny fraction of a populace in a "protected" class to silence the debate on their chosen lifestyle. If hate crimes laws WON'T infringe upon another persons rights then show the proof. As we see in other countries this isn't the case. When one groups rights are considered "more right" than another we end up in a position where even the discussion of certain topics will get you attacked.
I've done some digging on the claims made in the video of silencing christians. They are all matters of public record and backed by evidence. To deny the unintended consequence of infringing on a certain groups rights does not stop said infringement. Hate crimes laws are redundant, and punish peoples thoughts rather than actions. Assault is assault regardless of motivation.
Occupational religionists (pulpiteers) object to Federal Hate Crimes legislation for one reason & one reason only: vested pecuniary interest.
Anti-gay tirades are never meant to call the members of a particular congregation to repentance for their own sins- they are made in order to stir base, irrational passions and increase the weekly collection plate take.
Fleecing the sheeple and hiding behind tax exempt status: that's their "gospel".
A popular vote ALWAYS goes against civil rights, from the Civil Rights Movement to interracial marriage. You don't put rights to a vote. Marriage is a legal contract endorsed by the government, and the government shouldn't give a shit what your god does or doesn't say. Other than religion, there is no valid reason to deny marriage to gays. Against nature? 1500 species have homosexual tendencies. Foundation of society? Look up ancient Greek sexuality for a shock. Tradition? Arbitrary. Move on.
And finally you claim that I'm somehow "hateful" for speaking truthfully against self-destructive behavior. I can love the sinner, but that doesn't mean I should love the sin. I can love alcoholics but that doesn't mean I should encourage their problems, and it's wrong for anyone to do so. Watching someone destroy themself without doing a thing to stop them is NOT love or mercy.
The principle I value most is truth and I won't lie and watch someone march off a cliff for their own comfort.
How is homosexuality "self-destructive" or in any way like being an alcoholic? Where do you get these ideas? Where do you get the outrageous idea that your attacks against what you view as "watching someone destroy themselves" isn't hateful? You and your kind spend too much time worrying about where I stick my dick, and that says an awful lot more about you than it does any of us.
Your claim that this has no bearing in politics is also incorrect, especially when it comes to voting booth. I will go with what you say in that you and 2% of the population leading a self-destructive lifestyle is none of my concern, and I have no obligation to indulge in any of this.
Your claims on Leviticus are also entirely incorrect, but I doubt you've actually picked up a Bible in your life, you probably got this from some pro-gay website that twists quotations for their own benefit.
redbob: one portion of one faith's beliefs has no bearing whatsoever on politics, tax status, or ownership laws of the rest of us. Believe it or not, a whole lot of Christians are completely for gay marriage and rights, and what you and some others believe is wrong has no bearing on the rest of us. The restrictions in Leviticus, and references to it in the Gospel, ONLY APPLIED to Israelites, not gentiles, and has been tortured out of context for centuries. God is love and mercy, where are yours?
Do you understand what you have just said. First you open up with talking about differences in opinion, but then completely abandon that concept by instantly calling anything I believe as "wrong". And it's not "some others". Gay marriage was voted down EVERY TIME this past election, the people have spoken and only a handful of activist judges ignore it and decide against them. The OVERWHELMING majority voted against it, including over 70% of the black community.
52% isn't an "overwhelming majority," And we don't base our laws on the tyranny of the majority, for if we did, blacks wouldn't be able to marry whites, and slavery would still be legal. Thankfully, the world is turning its back against your brand of bigotry and your kind will be relegated to the dustbin of history's biggest haters.
Also, he's complaining that about the program entitled "Speechless: Silencing Christians". And what does he want to do about it? Have it banned, thus silencing the voices behind it.
He's doing the EXACT THING that the special says people are doing. He's living proof that the people who made this special are right and he is wrong.
Don't let the name of his group fool you, this guy knows nothing about faith, and even less about freedom of speech.
This guy is a lying dirtbag of the lowest order. Since he can't convince people that the physically, psychologically, and spiritually-destructive behavior of homosexuality is a good thing (it isn't), he now is forcing Christians and other people who don't agree with it as "hatred". No, it means we have actual standards, and care more about the truth than about sensitivity. Watching someone destroy themself is NOT love.
Rather than debate, he silences us against free speech. Pathetic.
OK... Are you for real? ... First of all, I'm a gay male... Please explain how ME, or any other man, only feeling sexually attracted to men is physically, psychologically and "spiritually"-destructive?... You don't even know how often or which way every gay man has sex, or if he has actually ever had sex at all with another man, for goodness sake... You're clearly bias, probably because of The Bible and your Christian indoctrination...
You're so naiiiiive it's sad, really... I just hope you'll grow out of it 'cause you're still young. I hope that happens before you decide to have a child, 'cause if he turned out to be gay, he will have a miserable adolescence and worse adulthood, and you'll probably never know it (wouldn't it be very sad?)...
Talking about silence, free speech, destruction... Think really hard: Who are the ones really silencing? Who are the ones that are being destructive to others? ... Having the right to free speech doesn't equate to having the right to defame... Defamatory speech ought to be silenced... If someone said that, for instance, Christians were lunatic so we shouldn't trust them, that wouldn't be right, don't you think? ... I mean think, just think, that's all you need to do, seriously...
With regards to government omnipotence, we shoud avoid exercising blind obedience and never rely upon blind faith. Refocusing moral responsibility towards secular government will never achieve enlightened results.
zekretzpy: Hate, ignorance and bigotry are the agents that destroy humanity. Gay men and lesbians don't engage in any sexual activity that isn't also engaged in by their heterosexual counterparts. Get your facts correct degeneracy (however you see it) is a human trait that is neither homo nor hetero.
Any Civil Right would therefore be considered Civil and Right only if it Pertains to ALL people Equally, ITs NOT supposed to Become some Special Privileged Permission.
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LIES, LIES, LIES, and More LIES Still !!!
IN other Countries like Canada that have Hate Crime Laws ITs now Criminal offense for church pastors to teach and preach about bible admonitions against sinful behavior. Churches are now condemned and denied religious freedom when they explain how reprobate and obstinate sinners are cast into hell for refusing to repent of their sinful behaviors before death.
When I look at the Bible, it is clearly obvious to me that those who cause most sin against God are those who follow the Biblical law to the letter while ignoring all justice and mercy, as well as those who defile the name and purity of God and His word. Churches preaching against the GLBT community have never done so to rebuke them for their sin, but they have always done so to condemn them for their nature. None of us is without sin, but some of us are without rights.
The only lies you are hearing is the complete bullshit that comes from your lying pastors about gay people. It's time that these creeps be called out on the carpet about these things. They can teach whatever they want regarding homosexuality but when they start going into the public arena and publicly (via t.v., etc.) lying about who we are there are consequences.
I literally saw their website a few minutes before watching this. They have a little poll going; I just imagined how Mike Huckabee would vote and voted the opposite.
Say for instance I believe that homosexuality is NOT inborn I will be excoriated as a homophobe or that I am not only stupid but uninformed . However science currently backs my statement. True many have come forward with "proof" of a genetic causality, but when put through the scientific method the claims always fail.
AutonomyRadio 3 months ago
The only hate and lies I see come from people who would put a tiny fraction of a populace in a "protected" class to silence the debate on their chosen lifestyle. If hate crimes laws WON'T infringe upon another persons rights then show the proof. As we see in other countries this isn't the case. When one groups rights are considered "more right" than another we end up in a position where even the discussion of certain topics will get you attacked.
AutonomyRadio 3 months ago
I've done some digging on the claims made in the video of silencing christians. They are all matters of public record and backed by evidence. To deny the unintended consequence of infringing on a certain groups rights does not stop said infringement. Hate crimes laws are redundant, and punish peoples thoughts rather than actions. Assault is assault regardless of motivation.
AutonomyRadio 3 months ago
lol
makimachenkaki 1 year ago
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Occupational religionists (pulpiteers) object to Federal Hate Crimes legislation for one reason & one reason only: vested pecuniary interest.
Anti-gay tirades are never meant to call the members of a particular congregation to repentance for their own sins- they are made in order to stir base, irrational passions and increase the weekly collection plate take.
Fleecing the sheeple and hiding behind tax exempt status: that's their "gospel".
BenAliGtor 2 years ago
A popular vote ALWAYS goes against civil rights, from the Civil Rights Movement to interracial marriage. You don't put rights to a vote. Marriage is a legal contract endorsed by the government, and the government shouldn't give a shit what your god does or doesn't say. Other than religion, there is no valid reason to deny marriage to gays. Against nature? 1500 species have homosexual tendencies. Foundation of society? Look up ancient Greek sexuality for a shock. Tradition? Arbitrary. Move on.
senselocke 2 years ago 2
And finally you claim that I'm somehow "hateful" for speaking truthfully against self-destructive behavior. I can love the sinner, but that doesn't mean I should love the sin. I can love alcoholics but that doesn't mean I should encourage their problems, and it's wrong for anyone to do so. Watching someone destroy themself without doing a thing to stop them is NOT love or mercy.
The principle I value most is truth and I won't lie and watch someone march off a cliff for their own comfort.
Redbob86 2 years ago
How is homosexuality "self-destructive" or in any way like being an alcoholic? Where do you get these ideas? Where do you get the outrageous idea that your attacks against what you view as "watching someone destroy themselves" isn't hateful? You and your kind spend too much time worrying about where I stick my dick, and that says an awful lot more about you than it does any of us.
JohnnyBB82 2 years ago
Your claim that this has no bearing in politics is also incorrect, especially when it comes to voting booth. I will go with what you say in that you and 2% of the population leading a self-destructive lifestyle is none of my concern, and I have no obligation to indulge in any of this.
Your claims on Leviticus are also entirely incorrect, but I doubt you've actually picked up a Bible in your life, you probably got this from some pro-gay website that twists quotations for their own benefit.
Redbob86 2 years ago
redbob: one portion of one faith's beliefs has no bearing whatsoever on politics, tax status, or ownership laws of the rest of us. Believe it or not, a whole lot of Christians are completely for gay marriage and rights, and what you and some others believe is wrong has no bearing on the rest of us. The restrictions in Leviticus, and references to it in the Gospel, ONLY APPLIED to Israelites, not gentiles, and has been tortured out of context for centuries. God is love and mercy, where are yours?
senselocke 2 years ago
Do you understand what you have just said. First you open up with talking about differences in opinion, but then completely abandon that concept by instantly calling anything I believe as "wrong". And it's not "some others". Gay marriage was voted down EVERY TIME this past election, the people have spoken and only a handful of activist judges ignore it and decide against them. The OVERWHELMING majority voted against it, including over 70% of the black community.
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Redbob86 2 years ago
52% isn't an "overwhelming majority," And we don't base our laws on the tyranny of the majority, for if we did, blacks wouldn't be able to marry whites, and slavery would still be legal. Thankfully, the world is turning its back against your brand of bigotry and your kind will be relegated to the dustbin of history's biggest haters.
JohnnyBB82 2 years ago
Lets silence gays and leftists. Make everything gays and leftists say illegal and hate speech.
sexydarin1 2 years ago
Also, he's complaining that about the program entitled "Speechless: Silencing Christians". And what does he want to do about it? Have it banned, thus silencing the voices behind it.
He's doing the EXACT THING that the special says people are doing. He's living proof that the people who made this special are right and he is wrong.
Don't let the name of his group fool you, this guy knows nothing about faith, and even less about freedom of speech.
Redbob86 2 years ago
This guy is a lying dirtbag of the lowest order. Since he can't convince people that the physically, psychologically, and spiritually-destructive behavior of homosexuality is a good thing (it isn't), he now is forcing Christians and other people who don't agree with it as "hatred". No, it means we have actual standards, and care more about the truth than about sensitivity. Watching someone destroy themself is NOT love.
Rather than debate, he silences us against free speech. Pathetic.
Redbob86 2 years ago
OK... Are you for real? ... First of all, I'm a gay male... Please explain how ME, or any other man, only feeling sexually attracted to men is physically, psychologically and "spiritually"-destructive?... You don't even know how often or which way every gay man has sex, or if he has actually ever had sex at all with another man, for goodness sake... You're clearly bias, probably because of The Bible and your Christian indoctrination...
almanact01 2 years ago
You're so naiiiiive it's sad, really... I just hope you'll grow out of it 'cause you're still young. I hope that happens before you decide to have a child, 'cause if he turned out to be gay, he will have a miserable adolescence and worse adulthood, and you'll probably never know it (wouldn't it be very sad?)...
almanact01 2 years ago
Talking about silence, free speech, destruction... Think really hard: Who are the ones really silencing? Who are the ones that are being destructive to others? ... Having the right to free speech doesn't equate to having the right to defame... Defamatory speech ought to be silenced... If someone said that, for instance, Christians were lunatic so we shouldn't trust them, that wouldn't be right, don't you think? ... I mean think, just think, that's all you need to do, seriously...
almanact01 2 years ago
The world would be so much better off without religion.
Adults with imaginary friends in any other context are usually referred to psychological care.
ryuuseicha 3 years ago
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With regards to government omnipotence, we shoud avoid exercising blind obedience and never rely upon blind faith. Refocusing moral responsibility towards secular government will never achieve enlightened results.
zekretzpy 3 years ago
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HomoDegeneracy is the deseased activity that is destroying humanity.
zekretzpy 3 years ago
zekretzpy: Hate, ignorance and bigotry are the agents that destroy humanity. Gay men and lesbians don't engage in any sexual activity that isn't also engaged in by their heterosexual counterparts. Get your facts correct degeneracy (however you see it) is a human trait that is neither homo nor hetero.
shadowlawn3761 3 years ago 2
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Any Civil Right would therefore be considered Civil and Right only if it Pertains to ALL people Equally, ITs NOT supposed to Become some Special Privileged Permission.
zekretzpy 3 years ago
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This topic of Gender Identity and Sexual Preference refers to Male and Female, There is NO third Alternative!
zekretzpy 3 years ago
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LIES, LIES, LIES, and More LIES Still !!!
IN other Countries like Canada that have Hate Crime Laws ITs now Criminal offense for church pastors to teach and preach about bible admonitions against sinful behavior. Churches are now condemned and denied religious freedom when they explain how reprobate and obstinate sinners are cast into hell for refusing to repent of their sinful behaviors before death.
zekretzpy 3 years ago
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There has Never been Truth OR Tolerance from the Degenerate side regarding the bible's condemnation of sinful behavior!
zekretzpy 3 years ago
No it's the way your pastors have used the Bible to harm and abuse God's gay and lesbian children that is sinful.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago 5
When I look at the Bible, it is clearly obvious to me that those who cause most sin against God are those who follow the Biblical law to the letter while ignoring all justice and mercy, as well as those who defile the name and purity of God and His word. Churches preaching against the GLBT community have never done so to rebuke them for their sin, but they have always done so to condemn them for their nature. None of us is without sin, but some of us are without rights.
ZanderSchubert 3 years ago 3
The only lies you are hearing is the complete bullshit that comes from your lying pastors about gay people. It's time that these creeps be called out on the carpet about these things. They can teach whatever they want regarding homosexuality but when they start going into the public arena and publicly (via t.v., etc.) lying about who we are there are consequences.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago 4
it sickens me...that they say protecting gays from violence is the same as silencing christians from spewing their stupid propaganda.
Christians saying their persecuted is the ultimate irony, when it's still not even possible for a non-Christian to become president.
NamiTheUntamed 3 years ago 7
I literally saw their website a few minutes before watching this. They have a little poll going; I just imagined how Mike Huckabee would vote and voted the opposite.
EniesLobby 3 years ago