SGI and World Peace

[Giovannisenzaterra]

in fact sensei,with his personal worship, looks like Mussolini

[sixthskydemon]

no fratello dì pure berlusconi!

[Giovannisenzaterra]

giusto,una specie di berlusconi-guru,la tipologia e' quella,balle,narcisismo,finto-­buonismo,potere mediatico

[staffnoBAKA]

Souka-Gakkai is doing environmental disruption in Japan. The overexploitation is New-Koumei party's policy, especially fat ugly man Fuyushiba.

SGI-believers in other country are helping extermination of many animals and plants of Japan indirectly.

[sixthskydemon]

sgi propaganda forget that in 2001 komeito approve the irak war in japan..what a short memory!!!

[tubecut]

Ikeda formed Komei Political Party(now New Komeito) in Japan. Komeito has grown to be a big coalition with Liberal Democratic Party, the ruling party in Japan. Komei politicians are Soka Gakkai members. They support Iraq war.

[DRAGUNOFF]

sgi and the peace..what about the jpanese soldiers in irak and the new komeito?

[ireneshusband]

New Komeito is not the Soka Gakkai. Komeito did a deal with the LDP, presumably in the belief that it could be a moderating influence on the goverment. It lost a good deal of support among Soka Gakkai members over this. They think that Komeito sold out on its pacifist principles. There are many good reasons for why Komeito was separated from the Soka Gakkai a long time ago. One is that politicians end up having to consider compromises that would be unacceptable for a religious organisation.

[DRAGUNOFF]

man you're block-head KOMEITO IS FORMED COMPLETLY BY SOKA MEMBERS,AND IN 2001 HAD SEND TO IRAQ 500 JAPANESE SOLDIERS..THIS ARE NOT VOICES OR HYPOTHESIS!IT'S HISTORY!!TALK WITH YOU IS LIKE TALK WITH A WALL,LIKE WE SAY IN ITALY!

[zelda1032]

When the Dalai Lama recently visited Japan, did President Ikeda meet with him, and if not, why?

[orangecheer]

SoKult49. i think it is unfair just to take a portion of a sentence and assume it is the real thing. Another thing, had any of you read Dr Daisaku Ikeda's books or his thoughts? if you have the chance pls do some reading, im sure it would help you very much. thank you and lets work for peace and not to humililate and dsicriminate anybody. just ask yourself what have you done for the world? if not it is time we work hand in hand for peace.

[SoKult49]

For instance, Moonie from Unification Church has received many awards and degrees, and met VIPs like Gorbachev, Eisenhower, Nixon, Kim Dae-Jung, Kishi, Fukuda.... All those presidents and prime ministers of the world.

Do some research on Mr. Fukunaga from Ho no Hana,　Mr. Niwano from Rissho Koseikai and many more.　You'll see the same pattern.

The only difference would be that Ikeda morbidly self-praises in Soka publications and his members brag about it.

[SoKult49]

First of all, diversify your readings by other authors, philosophers and scholars.

Then you will learn there is nothing original about Ikeda humanism.

Many others have already advocated the same in the past. Plus, Ikeda extensively excerpts their ideas in his books anyway.

Also, you are so preoccupied with Ikeda's degrees and awards. That's how wealthy religious leaders command respect and awe from members.

[SoKult49]

World's pacifists including Pope, Nobel Peace Prize winners have met the nations' summit leaders and fearlessly opposed Iraq War.

Whereas, Daisaku Ikeda, the eternal leader of Soka Gakkai said,

"To denounce the military power entirely is not always a realistic option in the political arena." (Yomiuri Online 2/17/1991)

[CultCop]

So, did Einstein become a SGI member and started chanting accordingly?

Also, Ikeda has met many world's presidents, prime ministers, and VIPs.

Ikeda and Soka Gakkai are acclaimed by the world as Soka self claims. Has any one of them ever become a SGI member?

[RandyChoy]

I had been SGI for many years, even i had doubt in the past, i found out few pointers. 1. Do dis religious giving oportunity to change ur character? 2. Do dis religious guiding you to believe more to yourself and to help others 3. Is the philosophy leading you the correct path of life? Albert Elinstein mentioned: "It is rare to have such a humanistic religious in the world." I think we look and doing studies btw God based and Humanity based religious, and dat u r able find the truth.

[Gyanganga]

How good!! Atleast two people are having a dialogue from 'fight' to 'becoming friends'. I wish both of them good luck. Please take good care and lets make this world a real better n beautiful place for our children (and for us ..may be we will be born again as our successors.. haha :-)

[s2macdon]

how is 'peace, it's up to all of us' something that's up for contention?

[TheRealMrSchwartz]

Tubecut is right - reside in Japan and you'll see how viscious sgi really is. Tell you what, for an expieriment tell them you want to quit and or practice on your own. See how long it takes before you get a visit from the young men's division thugs.

[TheRealMrSchwartz]

I lived in Japan for 6 years. I saw the violent intimidation, mind control, fraud, corruption and lies of SGI and its political wing, komeito, up close. They have never spent a single yen or done an hour of work towards world peace - its just propaganda to scam their brainwashed members.

[Oriddler]

>>what do u understand the term "true" Buddhism in the viewpoint of japanese Buddhism?

We need not understand "true" Buddhism because we don't claim any specific sect as true Buddhism.

Soka Gakkai is the one who claims Nichiren Buddhism as "true Buddhism"

Where is your proof?

If you don't have the answer, don't bother.

Don't play with words, questions against questions.

We wish to have a dialogue with SGI members who can verify that from academic and philological view.

[tubecut]

In September, 2006, Mr. Ohta became the head of Komeito. There was no recommendation, election, voting, or opposing candidate. Japanese with normal intelligence all know that Ikeda appoints the head of Komeito.

Those who still believe Komeito is autonomous from Soka Gakkai are ignorant and moronic.

Reside in Japan. You will be wised up.

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

--..... severe Komeito political rally, and so on. People won't consume time and energy to criticize harmless black sheep--

No, people in authority are afraid of movement which represents the gakkai members in japan to keep eye on society. Usually, authority whether in religious or political arena are often threatened by empower mass movement.. by the way, the Komeito party is now enjoined together with LDP party...

[tubecut]

To BodhisatvaOfTheEarth,

It is good that you understand Japanese society.

Answer the following inquires then.

1 Has Komeito had an election for the head of the party?

2 The other political parties have meetings by regional supporters. Does Komeito have it?

3 How does Komeito elect the 3 major positions?

[tubecut]

4 The other political parties hire volunteers during election. And they declare the miscellaneous expenses.

Komeito does not even have an election campaign office. How would they declare the expenses?

5 In the other political parties, each politician has his own political ethics, and they discuss debate and adjust on policies. However, Komeito is monolithic. What has become of Komei politicians who opposed to Iraq War?

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

By the way, what proof have you got? for the best, only and true Buddhism as Soka claims?--- what do u understand the term "true" Buddhism in the viewpoint of japanese Buddhism?

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

--That one individual (Ikeda) controls a biggest religion and political party is unprecedented in a post war modern world. Find out how Komeito wins votes and the head of Komeito is appointed.

You'll see how their rally is different from other parties. That will be a good start for a novice. -- this too is exagerrated self-righteousness...I am not japanese and but i understand japan society. do u?

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

--malign criticisms only prove that SGI is on right track--

What is your base for being so self-righteous? it depends on the accusations or false information...

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

--sokaissues is edited and copyrighted by Soka Gakkai.

Enough of self praised and justified stuff.---

Now, you are condemning and one-sided but the truth lies in between. As the gakkai exercises its free speech like what you said it is but to present the other side of the story upon free speech...isn't that fair?

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

--Religious organizations abuse world peace slogan as a pious façade. That's not SGI patent. Plus, we don't need religions to inspire us into culture, education, world peace in the first place.--

Who cares about SGI? Its not you who represent. It is the dedicated and sincere members who practice Nichiren's Buddhist philosophy to society.

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

Cultnews and others...i just make laugh your bunch of quoting press articles posted here...false stories and twisting articles....the intention is clear--defamation... i feel sorry with you guys....may we all find peace in our hearts....nam myoho renge kyo

[CultCop]

The intention is not a defamation, but to present the other side of the story upon free speech.

We are just fine without your chants.

Save that for your own soul salvation.

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

---I've heard this stupid comment many times from SGI members. They all think alike from junior high kids to seniors. This is a sign of totalistic herd psychology. They believe criticism and attacks make them righteous. Cultish religions use this mind control method.---- Wrong!! it is on the other way around people who criticizez mostly uses this mind control method because they lack proof.Proof can never twisted in the minds of people....

[CultCop]

We don't believe criticism makes critics righteous at all.

"malign criticisms only prove that SGI is on right track."

Those are your own words. Get clear on that.

By the way, what proof have you got? for the best, only and true Buddhism as Soka claims?

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

--malign criticisms only prove that SGI is on right track??

What an illogical and subjective delusion!

If we are quiet about evil power, human race will suffer. History has proven that also. --- And u think SGI movement and its peace activities are evil...that is a great delusion...

[CultCop]

Religious organizations abuse world peace slogan as a pious façade. That's not SGI patent. Plus, we don't need religions to inspire us into culture, education, world peace in the first place.

[CultCop]

Soka Gakkai is criticized because of its centralized leadership, massive funds, shakubuku rampage, intolerance of criticism, ideological uniformity and self-righteousness as true Buddhism as they claim, and severe Komeito political rally, and so on. People won't consume time and energy to criticize harmless black sheep.

[banuary]

--malign criticisms only prove that SGI is on right track...

I've heard this stupid comment many times from SGI members. They all think alike from junior high kids to seniors. This is a sign of totalistic herd psychology. They believe criticism and attacks make them righteous. Cultish religions use this mind control method.

[CultCop]

Soka Gakkai is toxic to our society due to its extreme self-righteousness, totalistic mentality and ideological uniformity.

>malign criticisms only prove that SGI is on right track??

What an illogical and subjective delusion!

If we are quiet about evil power, human race will suffer. History has proven that also.

[BodhisatvaOfTheEarth]

anti-sgi people here are qouting words of the gakkai out of context in the negative light...too bad for these people...these malign and criticisms only proves that SGI is on right track..Great people are succumb to great criticism. History proves it...

[byakurain]

>>There will always be a few dodgy leaders...

Those dodgy and fanatic leaders tend to be either Nichiren or Ikeda's devotees.

[byakurain]

>>the danger is getting embroiled in historic texts written in a different turbulent time

Religions always make reference to written texts often ancient or medieval. The group's societal movements are also inspired from its written doctrines.

Soka Gakkai's ultimate textbook is Gosho, sometimes Ikeda's guidance. If you find a danger in historic texts, what do you think SGI is based upon?

Well, I don't mean to insult you, but can you be little more intelligent when you talk?

[tubecut]

Buddhahood, a supreme state of mind exists in almost all religions in different terminologies. This is nothing unique to your lotus sutra.

>I think the danger here though is getting embroiled in historic texts, that were written in a different and more turbulent time.

Bingo! That's why Soka Gakkai has grown to be very dangerous as they try to adapt Nichiren's medieval words religiously.

[tubecut]

As for a movement in today's society, find out how Soka Gakkai conspires with Komei political party

following Obutsu- Myogo (to unite religion and politics to realize the Buddhist concept of Unity of Buddhism and Government)

> from the organisations Ive seen within the UK and America this could not be further from the truth.

We truly hope you are right.

However, having Ikeda as the summit leader, SGI may repeat the same error as in Japan.

[Oriddler]

Speaking of little resources,

Read "The First level of the Fivefold Comparison", "Four dictums" and "Rissho Ankoku Ron"

literally means "Establish Peace and Stability of the Land through True Buddhism." if you claim to be a Daishonin's disciple.

Also, find out why Soka Gakkai refers to Nichiren

as Daishonin. That'll be a good start for a novice.

[coldasice199]

You know your stuff. I think the danger here though is getting embroiled in historic texts, that were written in a different and more turbulent time. While obviously they still carry refrence, I think a better judge of the religion is to examine the movement in todays society.

[Oriddler]

Your comments are amateurish and rudimentary based on your subjective feelings.

We wish to have a dialogue with those who at least make efforts to validate the supremacy of lotus sutra and Nichiren as the true Buddha from an academic and philological view.

Also, Soka Gakkai Japan has published multiple books to refute other religions including Christianity.

Read them all and judge for yourself if it is confidence or belittling.

[CultNews]

Ikeda is the leader of a multi-billion dollar Japanese political and religious group, Soka Gakkai International; SGI is on almost every cult list around the world.

They make no secret of their mission to create peace through converting people to (True) Buddhism.

[CultNews]

Ikeda's self-promotion as a "peace activist" is disgusting. King and Ghandi never pimped themselves around the globe handing out millions of dollars to legitimize themselves.

King and Ghandi struggled against injustice. They did not push, buy, bribe their way into credibility. Neither King nor Ghandi had to spend millions of dollars on public relations and propaganda.

[CultNews]

Besides linking his name with King and Ghandi, Ikeda has also had his name linked with convicted cocaine trafficker Manuel Noriega.

When Noriega named a statue in Panama after Ikeda, Ikeda returned the favor by presenting Noriega with a "humanist" award.

Ikeda's chumminess with and admiration for Fidel Castro is also well-documented.

(Imperial Valley Press Thursday, May 20, 2004)

[upnadam2create]

Buddhists are humanistic, they believe humans all have good inside. Happy friendly people is my perception. I can see how it could be percieved as a cult but I have never had to pay anything. I can not see how it could be bad.

[macbelle]

Soka Gakkai net worth is estimated up to 100 Billion US dollars (more than Sony's).

They won't release the financial breakdown to members even as requested.

Never contribute your hard earned money even if you receive benefits financially, physically or

spiritually. Have Gohonzon and Ikeda serve you. They sure can afford it.

PS I've seen your work out video. You are hottie, too cute to be a cult member.

[upnadam2create]

The problem with that is that they dont bug me for money. If they have money, OK, serves me. It has been a stabilizing factor in my life. I have had obsticals and the members have been there better than most of my other friends. It is about isolated friendships for me. And chanting is a form of transcendental meditation. The scientific evidence tells me enough about that.

[upnadam2create]

I am interested in the effects of chanting/meditation I get out of it and the thought provoking dialogue some of the reading stimulates. Thank you for the compliments though.

[upnadam2create]

I am a born christian and I still attend church once per month. Thing is I practice buddhist principles. Yeah, I dont get into the big meetings nor believe anything very magical like money will spontaneously happen from chanting. I think though chanting causes physiological changes.

[upnadam2create]

Watch my video on how we do our book club meetings. It is the interaction with individuals like you that I like about the organization. I would meditate without it but it provides a framework and makes it social. I also enjoy exercise better with others. Simple similar idea. That is how I see it and I go back for more because it is positive.

[macbelle]

Hundreds of organizations chant Nam Myoho Renge Kyo.

Soka Gakkai adapts Nichiren's self-righteousness to the most extreme.

Receiving benefits, you are psychologically in debt to Gohonzon and SGI. Probably, you will follow the same path to fanaticism sooner than later.

In the meantime, post more exercise videos, shirtless of course.

[upnadam2create]

If this is a chick I am flattered otherwise quit it.

[macbelle]

yes I'm all woman, half Swedish.

you are sooo north American, uptight about human sexuality. cute but boring

[upnadam2create]

Well, I dont know you. We both have different opinions on things. I dont want to loose the one when I get her. That is why I dont want to take it lightly. That is how I came to know Boston Snowden was a friend I want to have. He is the one that introduced to SGI.

[Oriddler]

Well, whoever introduced SGI. Review Nichiren Buddhism and compilation of lotus sutra academically especially as you claim to be brainy. Find out how your true Buddhism was fabricated. You will find fallacies Soka Gakkia has committed.

[upnadam2create]

Why does Massachusetts in the US has the lowest divorce rate and highest academic rates and a guy named Boston happen to be an academic counselor with a good marriage. The brain is the greatest sex organ. Sometimes boring is more exciting in the long run.

[Oriddler]

I don't see any logical correlations between macbells comments and divorce rate, academic level, brain and sex organ. Leaping in arguments, you must be on high or chanted too much?

[upnadam2create]

What is the definition of a cult, because I have had positive things from whatever it is that I have been experiencing. If I say, fine we chant, people that chant are in a cult, it is too easy for you to take a hysteronic approach to that, really, experience what I do. Then judge.

[Oriddler]

Read "Combating cult mind control" by Steven Hassan

to learn about cults. You seem to be already cult infected. To judge your own religion is more important than mess around with critics.

[CultCop]

Soka Gakkai cult label comes from a centralized leadership, massive funds, shakubuku rampage, intolerance of criticism, ideological uniformity and self-righteousness as true Buddhism as they claim, and severe Komeito political rally, and so on.

Read books on cult before you dismiss your cult stigma stupid-blindly.

[upnadam2create]

Ok, for the thing down below. No, I have never been high and chanting would not make me feel that way. Second, I dont agree with everything the organization says. Third, call it a cult, I DONT CARE as far as my doing it it improves my quality of life. Forth, I dont claim to be brainy, I just claim to be looking to my brain to overcome obsticals. Good luck with your theories though..

[tubecut]

You are such a novice to Soka Gakkai scheme.

Share whatever you disagree with the organization and Ikeda at the headquarter in Tokyo, and see what happens.

That will be a spectacle.

You will see if our assertion is theoretical or real.

[upnadam2create]

Whatever, It's different here than it is there. What it is here I am a leader in and enjoy. Enjoy your conspiracy theories.

[Oriddler]

>I DONT CARE as far as my doing it it improves my quality of life.

Well then, don't bother any point of argument or defense over something that's so subjectively perceived. Go back to Gohonzon and chant away.

Never mess with critics.

[upnadam2create]

You dont totally understand my view either. What I believe in is the ability inherant n belief in a higher power to overcome obsticals. I am christian. I will meditate either way, think is I am more disciplined when there is a social accountability. I am a personal trainer. Works the same way for fitness. Dont get me wrong!

[upnadam2create]

What is the divorce rate there then? Just curious, the promiscuity thing, I dont know about, but what I do I sort of wish I did not.

[Oriddler]

I'm taking over macbelle. You can check out divorce rate in Sweden easily online. High or low, the statistic does not determine its promiscuity, plus, there are positive aspects in divorce. And if you didn't wish to know, don't ask.

[macbelle]

Intense prayers, chanting and meditation are effective with faith in it as clinically proven.

However, when you declare your method as the best, true and only, it creates more conflicts than benefits socio-psychologically.

[utogus]

Ikeda has met numerous world scholars and politicians.

SGI claims they fully acknowledge SGI.

Have they become members themselves,

Or they never mind practicing with SGI?

[sitjib]

Has the reporter who wrote that article for the 'Sydney Morning Herald' ever spoke to members of SGI never mind practiced with them?

[CultNews]

The expansion has not done much for its domestic image. Despite its lofty goals, some heavy-handed recruiting tactics in the 1970s and 1980s and its intolerance of criticism have left many Japanese deeply suspicious of the body and its leadership."

(Sydney Morning Herald, July 1, 2000)

[CultNews]

"Using the massive funds generated by its 8 million members, mostly housewives and small business people,

Ikeda has been able to build Soka Gakkai into a giant global organisation, aimed at 'promoting peace through culture and education.'