he gets paid to do what he does, thats his job.. its not right, but he didnt do it the way they wanted so he got the kick, big deal, how does this effect us?
( sorry this makes more sense if you read my comments from the bottom up )
I also tend to buy games that gerstmann had recommended, I got the orange box and gear of war for the PC. Seemingly, advertising dollars at work, case in point. However, I will no longer rely on gamespot for information on which games are "good" or "bad". hence 1 less person for advertisers to spend their marketing dollars on.
If, now, after these events people don't go to gamespot, don't trust their reviews and so on, there will be no point for game companies to spend their money advertising to gamespot because they would no long have the marketability as we their viewers don't want to buy what they are selling in a sense.
For example, the only eidos games I have ever purchased were tomb raider and soul reaver. I never again will purchase an eidos title.
Well we as viewers may not provide gamespot with a large part of their revenue directly. however advertisers pay all of those millions of dollars to gamespot because they know they have/had the largest pull with gamers and know that gamespot provides the greatest visibility and marketing power for games. They spend money on gamespot advertising so we - gamespot views will buy the games that we see on their site.
Not sure if your aware of this, but we bring that add money. Its not like the banners and shit is made so that the guys that own the site can watch em. It think its the users. So we acctualy sit with all the power in the world on this thing here. We own the company in a way. Without us they would have to close there doors.
I think you're wrong about us not having any recourse. People are going to be closing there browsers in droves at Gamespot because they don't trust them, and will go to there rival sites. Your statistics are interesting though, and paint a bad picture. This is why I mainly rely on hands on experience and word of mouth for games, but it's still good to see one of these corporate giants which are meant to represent us get hit in the balls.
I think many serious gamers that are NOT fanboys for any particular game or genre will move to other sites for reviews. I personally have lost a good bit of trust in GS.
Also as for the rating scale it isn't something done just to make purblishers happy. It's all about mentality, simply put a score less the a 5 is considered to be a failure. So unless the game really sucks you aren't going to use half the scale for it.
I don't agree that users aren't important, since even Ad money is based on users. No users = no ad money. No one is going to spend thousands of dollars for an Ad no one will see. When you decide to purchase Ad space on a site your going to want to know that there people who actually see it. If gamespot loses users then their ad money, as well as subscription money, is going to dry up.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
his gamertag shows that he played only two or three levels before reviewing the goddamn game which caused eidos to pull their sponsorship. Also how come the only 6 they get is the honest why not all the 7s and 8s. its been getting?
great post, I'm a now ex-GS user myself, at least for now and into the foreseeable future. Been going to that site since the late 90's. What a tragedy. Greg K's replacement seems to be one of the bigger underlying problems from what I gather.
The point is that companies (and managers) in all sectors of the economy will sometimes have to write off their losses, and move onto other potentially profitable projects. Unfortunately, this kind of bullying tactic in the information age against the interests of (tech/info-savvy)consumers will likely carry greater losses terms of future revenue streams. They should have just let this one go. Like you said, this isn't going to just go away anytime soon.
Eloquent speech, but you neglected the multiplier effect. The advertisers have to pay their bills too, and their revenue comes from sales. If game publishers continue to show such blatant contempt for their consumer base, they too will lose additional revenues.
he gets paid to do what he does, thats his job.. its not right, but he didnt do it the way they wanted so he got the kick, big deal, how does this effect us?
ampm91192 3 years ago
( sorry this makes more sense if you read my comments from the bottom up )
I also tend to buy games that gerstmann had recommended, I got the orange box and gear of war for the PC. Seemingly, advertising dollars at work, case in point. However, I will no longer rely on gamespot for information on which games are "good" or "bad". hence 1 less person for advertisers to spend their marketing dollars on.
esatterwhite 4 years ago
If, now, after these events people don't go to gamespot, don't trust their reviews and so on, there will be no point for game companies to spend their money advertising to gamespot because they would no long have the marketability as we their viewers don't want to buy what they are selling in a sense.
For example, the only eidos games I have ever purchased were tomb raider and soul reaver. I never again will purchase an eidos title.
esatterwhite 4 years ago
Well we as viewers may not provide gamespot with a large part of their revenue directly. however advertisers pay all of those millions of dollars to gamespot because they know they have/had the largest pull with gamers and know that gamespot provides the greatest visibility and marketing power for games. They spend money on gamespot advertising so we - gamespot views will buy the games that we see on their site.
esatterwhite 4 years ago
Not sure if your aware of this, but we bring that add money. Its not like the banners and shit is made so that the guys that own the site can watch em. It think its the users. So we acctualy sit with all the power in the world on this thing here. We own the company in a way. Without us they would have to close there doors.
kleppemeister 4 years ago
I think you're wrong about us not having any recourse. People are going to be closing there browsers in droves at Gamespot because they don't trust them, and will go to there rival sites. Your statistics are interesting though, and paint a bad picture. This is why I mainly rely on hands on experience and word of mouth for games, but it's still good to see one of these corporate giants which are meant to represent us get hit in the balls.
agentpiltdown 4 years ago
I think many serious gamers that are NOT fanboys for any particular game or genre will move to other sites for reviews. I personally have lost a good bit of trust in GS.
Cyberdactyl 4 years ago
Also as for the rating scale it isn't something done just to make purblishers happy. It's all about mentality, simply put a score less the a 5 is considered to be a failure. So unless the game really sucks you aren't going to use half the scale for it.
GabrielStefan 4 years ago
I don't agree that users aren't important, since even Ad money is based on users. No users = no ad money. No one is going to spend thousands of dollars for an Ad no one will see. When you decide to purchase Ad space on a site your going to want to know that there people who actually see it. If gamespot loses users then their ad money, as well as subscription money, is going to dry up.
GabrielStefan 4 years ago
im impressed
gingershavesouls 4 years ago
good speech man...but no matter what you say,ppl will disregard gamespot due to this incident and wont hesistae to look elsewhere for a review.
InfernalXpression 4 years ago
You know what You are talking about and that is refreshing, Thanks.
TWOC2689 4 years ago
You know what you are talking about and that is very refreshing, Thanks.
TWOC2689 4 years ago
very well done
richard911truth 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
his gamertag shows that he played only two or three levels before reviewing the goddamn game which caused eidos to pull their sponsorship. Also how come the only 6 they get is the honest why not all the 7s and 8s. its been getting?
imaasslivewithit 4 years ago
great post, I'm a now ex-GS user myself, at least for now and into the foreseeable future. Been going to that site since the late 90's. What a tragedy. Greg K's replacement seems to be one of the bigger underlying problems from what I gather.
dozerking 4 years ago
7-9-scale - outstanding! Describes the problem perfectly!
kanetsb 4 years ago
The point is that companies (and managers) in all sectors of the economy will sometimes have to write off their losses, and move onto other potentially profitable projects. Unfortunately, this kind of bullying tactic in the information age against the interests of (tech/info-savvy)consumers will likely carry greater losses terms of future revenue streams. They should have just let this one go. Like you said, this isn't going to just go away anytime soon.
Bl00Balls 4 years ago
Eloquent speech, but you neglected the multiplier effect. The advertisers have to pay their bills too, and their revenue comes from sales. If game publishers continue to show such blatant contempt for their consumer base, they too will lose additional revenues.
Bl00Balls 4 years ago
Agreed, thanks for the numbers.
dan4real2 4 years ago
Good Analysis of the issues.
BIGGAHITZ 4 years ago