Hitler? Really? Hitler? That's the example your going to go with to promote the equal money system? Really? Between the hitler reference and you not having enough respect to put your pet out of the room I couldn't finish the video. Take this video down. It does more harm to the cause than good.
yeah humanity tried that, it's called communism. If you argue that people have been programmed to be selfish, how do you propose we solve the selfishness? Humans are naturally and intrinsically motivated to provide for themselves, above all others. This theory works in a perfect world, and looks great on paper; but you simply cannot change human nature, and, if implemented, this would surely fail.
@halodude1010 : simple, start by changing the fundaments of society everywhere. Slowly but surely bringing about another system and way of "raising" people that will change the dynamics. Humans provide for each other as well, look at how tribes function. Dont make excuses based on the so called "human nature" arguments. The deciding factor in those cases is mostly socialisation. Human nature is a little part that can easily be changed.
@Bamakul: human nature is determined by socialisation. Watch the documentary called: The Century of Self and hear how human nature is programmable -- this makes anything possible even for the socalled less intelligent as the measurement of intelligence is based on consumerism and capitalism without any understanding how learning in fact work..
Erm, yea, it has nothing to do with communism and where did humanity ever try communism? Stop parotting third parties, start reading Marx, please or this is going to be an epic round of pwnage.
A key concept in communism is : "from each according to his ability to each according to his need". The key concept of equal money system is: "the same for everyone". These 2 are in direct contradiction to each other.
To be honest, true capitalism has not existed either. I wouldn't want it to and I thinks its premises are flawed (not even worrying about the practical outcome yet), but it hasn't existed yet.
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH : when we say: equality for all, we mean also for each according to his need, because not eveyrone for example requires the same health care, or the same amount of food etc... But the food a baby needs and a 1m80 adult needs, are both of equal value and worth and sustenance to that body. It maintains the body equally as much, even when the quantity and substance differs. A disabled person also cannot do some jobs. Its not that black and white.
Forget about shitty jobs, what about really important ones that not everyone can do? Doctors first come to mind, but even my job. I'm an engineer, and I studied to become one mostly for having a better paid job and access to a better career and in the end a better life. I'll be honest, if I knew from the start I could get all those things with being a housewife for example, I wouldn't have gone to college at all.
For me, money is a motivation and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
@P0IS0N : check out equal money forum, viewtopic. php? f=49&t = 6055 . It is only so because thats the way you are programmed to think, to be selfish. Its the way society shapes human beings that they start to become more and more self centered and disconnected from the whole - even allowing abuse in the name of their own good feelings.
@P0IS0N : For discussion go there, this comment section is not the best option for it. The point of it is to resolve an issue anyway. Placing it on the forum will make it more trackable for everyone who wants to read on similar questions in the future. If your not intrested in joining, it means you are not intrested in a solution. And obviously, we stand for a solution.
the eco-villages will be the supplier and source of food production for the urban dwellers who work in competitive environments to push humanity further into the future. Thus, we have a complete symbiotic system where the aggressive people push us into the future, while the non-aggressive and ambitious provide sustenance for all of humanity. It's the perfect balance.
They should eliminate the employee wage system and mandate that all business adopt a co-op system where everyone has a vested interest in each company and that all profits will be distributed in each company based on the amount of lifetime invested in the company. Poor performing employees with little to offer a company should be joined with like people and provided ample real estate to form rural self-sustaining eco-villages so they can still prosper in a non-competitive environment.
Say no to censorship! Stop requiring approval for comments please. Censorship, conformity and dogmatic thinking are not the hallmarks of a free society.
@hallavast : say YES! to censoring abuse. I put all comments to approval to prevent abusers from posting comments on my channel and on my videos. I suggest everyone to do the same. Allowing abuse freely on your channel, makes you responsible for it as well. And is the same as being the abuser yourself.
Ok. So if people are expected to do shitty jobs part time, is the mechanism for making sure there is enough people to do that job? Also, if someone has a skill, how do you prevent them from using that skill in a private context to bribe someone else into doing a job they don't want to do for them?
@hallavast : Yes there should be a mechanism in place to make sure the common good is taken care off. For these details please visit the forum. It cant be discussed in this space, to small and limited. No one can be bribed into a job they dont want to do. When people are not in survival mode, they cant be MADE to do something for someone elses profit. Also, the system would track all abuse, pure transparancy, no secrets.
i came here to try and listen to what you have to say, and i know you respect your pet very much, but if you can't respect your viewer to even focus and present your argument, i don't see why you should get my respect to watch your video. (stopped at 3:00) what a shame
@synchronium24 : This is not like the venus project. But I would look at your own fear of change and also about assumptions about other ways of living. Our current system is a psychopathical abusive destructive system, it puzzles me how people can just agree with it and then flame at every idea for another system... it is really the blind leading the blind in this world.
am i missing something? because all i hear is people explaining communism. yes, we all know the world is fubar and something must break. but do any of you really take the time to get intimate with history and thus notice the parallels between this and others of history's failings? i also beg everyone to listen to what Edgar Cayce says on the matters of spirituality there is no spin, only unconscious truth..."Everyday, after i rise, i pray for that humanity to wake up"....(Anon.)
@JamesOscar : I have had history and I am studying history as well - part of my program in university. Which shows communism is enterly different. Thus do your research on equal oney, it is not like communism. This is also explained on the website. You can go to it and search for "communism" and find the thread. Praying for humanity to wake up, wont make them wake up.
In the equal money system I will be a photographer, and ill entertain myself by taking pictures of all the plumbers scrubbing shit for the same wages I get having fun. Sounds good to me.
@btwicked : that is not how equal money system works. There is a 4 years subscription where work is divided. Investigate it on the website please. And if you have problems with dedicating 4 years for the best of all, you should compare that to the current system where you gotta bust your ass until your about 65 to sustain a system that creates massive abuse.
Did she just refer to hitler as saving his country?
Oh hey we'll just build some machines to do the dirty work! Who will design, build and maintain the machines? Where will the resources come from to create the machines? I suppose the central planners will tell everyone what to do, where to go and how to get the job done. But that's not slavery. For the benefit of the greatest good, of course. Great.
You people are like children. Your ridiculous shit will die on its own, fortunately.
@deasler81 : About the system he used as economy, not what he did to other people such as jews. If machines can do the work, then why not let it? There are human beings in this world who work 14 fucking hours a day for barely any money, just to survive in our capitalist consumerist world. No "central planners". Research equal money , equalmoney . org and for question please open a topic there, you will have larger replies then here in a comment section. We are already slaving away 65 years
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Also, there would a national standard of productivity, so a person can't be lazy and try to take a longer time to increase the income based on what they made, the income increases mainly on effective productivity. Capitalism is the best that we have now, but this Equal Money System (E.M.S) That you speak of AND that the idea that propose to discuss on your fourms sounds VERY promising. Also the password on AI system will VERY complicated. Password to make a 'special' 6 and each of --> continue
@JayTsunDayVis Investigating laziness can come out from a point of remuneration when not being paid enough for the amount of work done. When people get to be Equally Supported within the system, self-motivation is existent at the level of self-supporting self through a system that supports Everyone Equally which implies this is your motive-action as an extra to your already well-living standard. Such standard would simply be measured by what's best for all as the optimum efficiency possible.
Products is determine by a national commonality or rarity of the materials exist, & productivity of workers. 4 example, U work @ a fast food, & made food, the A.I. system will measure how much U made, wut material it made from &time how much time U work N2 make it as 2 determine ur income. Ur boss doesn't pay U cuz he is human, & ppl discriminate w/out knowing it! A.I. system will have recognition ability 2 calcul8 ur performance&national worth of materials made.
@JayTsunDayVis The approach is still based on a particular value-system placed on to materials as 'how rare they are' determining their price just as the way gold/silver work in the current system. Equality implies all jobs will be remunerated equally regardless of the materials used and the starting point of it will be humans taking self responsibility to provide service for the system as well as generating extra income from self-enjoyment through labor. The entire approach changes then.
i guess what i'm saying is how does a free market exist with a currency that you really don't care about. i mean when they give you a labor credit and you don't keep it, you don't have to try to get people to give you their labor credits. if you do get to keep it, then doesn't it just reinvent the problem of money? the things we have now that are considered necessary to our standard of living were at one point considered a luxury. will you steal peoples luxuries?
as i understand it, the equal money system would have 2 types of money. one for luxuries and the other for necessities. if everyone is given, say 4 million dollars, when they spend it, who gets the money?
what determines prices?
how do they decide where to build the food storage?
who builds the food storage?
and when you spend a labor credit, does the place where you spent it EARN a labor credit from your credit or does the administration give them labor credits according to time?
@RicWenProductions : I dont believe in anything. we are working on setting up something that will workj the best to stop abuse on earth. Thus its a work in progress and if it will work out or not time will tell. Lots of people do not have the same starting point. It is not created equally. And the truth is that often the bastards exploit others because they desire power and money and are willing to treat others as shit for it, and as inferior. Imagine if everyone would do that, fuck.
@wowyoumegasuck : We have discussed this on the forum:) please check it out if your really interested. Abuse in the new system simply wont be allowed.
(cont) because I support free speech and competion for ideas. My best wishes to you and have a happy new year! I hope next year will bring some solutions to all of this.
A control system is what we have though. I read the equal money website, and to be honest, it sounds exactly like what the Rothschild’s want. It sounds like they wrote it. A computer chip on a card or preferably under your skin! Digital money allocated to you. What if you don't follow their directions....control, control. This seems to follow their plans. Order out of chaos and problem, reaction, solution. Please be careful what you fight for. I support you and you're ideas (cont)
@argentummolonlabe : lol are you saying rothschild want total global equality without any form of abuse and no one being able to exploit another for profit?
Good point....I do agree that if we all stand against them at once then they will be crushed. I also know that they will use every thing in their arsenal to defend what they have taken, which has taken them hundreds of years to obtain. This means we must all be willing to lay down our lives for freedom. Have you studied Adam Weishaupt ? Are you familiar with his story? Anyhow, great videos and keep up the good work!
Question? How will the Rothschilds, Morgans, Rockefellers, and the rest of "the powers that be" give up their wealth and power in order to make this equal money work?
@argentummolonlabe : lol what can they do when the majority of the world population (which are poor) stand behind this idea and stand up as a group? Not much, they need the people to live their lifestyle, without the people support they have nothing.
I agree with Ron Paul, let there be competition. If the equel money system works and thrives, let it be. If silver and gold works out to be the best. let it be. I say keep the competition going, don't let any one type of system be the only way, this allows for too much control of any one system.
@argentummolonlabe : We need a control system right now considering the amount of abusive people on this earth. We need it as long as people abuse. When that point would not be there then control would not even be necessary. for now we have to work with what we've got and what will work the best.
I have asked a few destini members what is an equal money system and I just get told to do more research on the web site. I still have no understanding, it needs to be simple to get across to others.
My interpretation is that its a company and the staff live off its produce, do whats needed and get whats needed. Am I wrong
@sillymonkey8888 : yes it is all on the website, thats why the website and forums are put in place = for people to understand and discuss and help along. if you have questions please as on equalmoney forum, better platform then this here. Equal money means everyone gets the basics to survive. thats equal money, and you can only spend it on survival things. Then you also have labour money, which you spend on other things, which you earn by working for it. But there is much more to it.
@Houshalter : animal population naturally balances out. We are not going to shoot people man. lol. It IS the solution to the finite resources. There are enough resources for all the population + even more. Desires in time have to be tamed. When desires stand in the way of what is best for all, then they cant be followed.
@SpamAnn, thats really not an issue. Governments world wide have been absorbing more then 25% of all the resources (that's not counting communist countries even.) If you consider how many more resources could have been produced with those, compound interest basically, we could all be 3 or 4 times more wealthy right now (rough estimate, could very well be alot more.) If there were any poor left, private charities would easily cover them. We should therefore focus our energy there.
@Houshalter : our first priority is removing poverty. But we are not pro unlimited wealth. Everything must be taken in consideration, nature and respect for our planet aswell. We want a system of equality, equality is the core foundation. Poverty obviously cannot be allowed, no form of abuse can be allowed. Charities are only needed in systems that dont take care of the population. Now charities support capitalism.
@SpamAnn, that sounds good and all, but if I'm right, there wouldn't be any poverty to worry about at all. Besides, nature counts as a finite resource and can be handled fine under capitalism (note: not the same as corporatism), which allocates finite resources more efficiently then any other system. Compare with say, planned economies that do horribly inefficient and require secret police and death camps to maintain.
Capitalism ALWAYS requires have-nots. We have had several classes about this in school. The foundation has to be equality. Without that, any new system will get fucked by human ego.
It's easier said than done. If we could right now, we'd automate every shitty job. It's cheaper to have a machine than a human, don't have to worry about holidays, insurance, benefits, sick time, etc. However, there is just so much that can be automated. Automating restocking a grocery store? Plus, what a cold world we'd be in without having that human touch. Can you imagine going to the store/restaurant/gas station, and no humans, just machines? Personally, I like interacting with people.
@mak0t0san : if people want to do that job then they can, but no person will have to work strenuous and dangerous jobs for the sake of survival, when machines can do that.
Under the current system businesses minimize cost to maximize revenue correct?
So if we have machines that can increase efficiency wouldn't businesses already have these? Il answer my own question, yes, its called modernization, started in the 1900's in the states.
So your argument is completely invalid and void of all logic.
Businesses dont already have these, the maximul technologies are not being worked on. Why? because in this system they gotta keep the population at work.
They tried the equal money system in Russia. They found out people won't give a fuck, if they get paid the same no matter what they do.
You are actually talking about Communism with a big C. It is a horrible idea, only because there will always be tons of people who won't be motivated if it happens. I probably wouldn't work as hard as I possibly could if I would get shitty pay even if I try my hardest. So you are saying we need to kill jews as well? Hitler was a fucking idiot.
@danteslight : search "B I G namibia" . It did work. Communism is not the solution, btw communism in this world was fucking abusive. Same shit again : some on top others on the bottom. In equal money people get basic income money1. + a different kind called labour money 2. Which is the money you earn from work and payed according to the effort you have to put in the job. How much time and study it took etc...
@danteslight : and people wil be motivated because with equal money they can only buy the basics. They cant spend it on anything else. So if they want to play games or something or have a hot tub, they will have to work.
@danteslight : there is a company in America where the boss earns as much as the employers. Every employer loves going to work there, they all earn more then the average worker and they make decisions through voting. It works very very well and is more beneficial then a competitive driven company. + people ar emotivated because of the simple fact that they work together and do something for the common good. (it was a bread making factory)
@MultiTruth777 : this will take much time because we need to research and get good education and jobs to infiltrate the system, start political parties and get the votes from people. You can help. If you want send me a message.
@king78802 : only the minimum to survive, nothing extra. So I doubt many would just want to lay on their couch all day. lol. Since for example video games are a luxury.
Equal money... What a ridiculous idea. You wan't real results ? I suggest to check out the venusproject and the zeitgeist movement. Check out my playlists for this and both sites as their own.
Money at it self is always without real value it is the resources what matters and means to create it (technology)
@tunnis7us : I did check out and i am on the foruims of zeitgeist for a while. Its a good solution for the END stages when humanity can be trusted more but not from the beginning. We need interim steps so we can already deal with the heavily programmed minds of people + stop the starvationa nd all abuse through money. I will make some videos to explain this.
@SpamAnn Nope, but they certainly had equal money. They all had zero. Therefor every caveman cleaned his own toilet. Equal money would do that too. We would all be cleaning our own toilets again.
I'm all for equal money but then what would the world be for? We suffer this shit hole so we can be special. Who's special if we start to make everyone equal again? In Heaven all are equal. In hell we get to be special! See the attraction yet? We come to earth and suffer death just for specialness.
@1971SuperLead the point is to stop specialness/superiority/wanting to be better then another etc... all things which create inequality and abuse. So that we can stop the suffering. Heaven has to be created on earth, else its not real. Because all we know about and directly influence is here on earth.
you clean up your own shit. because with equal money no one is going to do it for you unless they are a crackhead. but then its your choice you support them.
There is such a thing as friendly competition, based upon a mutual respect for anothers' similar talent and the drive to display your talent to and for the other. This supports creativity, inginuity, and innovation. Most importantly, it doesn't cause division. The ego has potential as a motivational computer-like tool. Though we must remember, 'If a man uses the right tools in the wrong way, then the right tools worked in the wrong way.' Let us think of others, be respectful, joyous, and equals.
@seraphimra : competition is competition. With competition there is always a feeling of wanting to be better = ego, wanting to be special/better/greater etc... thus valuing how others see you, if they think you are better/special/more. Its always seperation. If your just playing a game, and laugh about it, its not real competition. Its only so when the patterns of really wanting to be more/better/special is present within it.
@SpamAnn That is an fair assessment. Though the friendly competition that I spoke of defers to introspection. To always strive to be better than you were the day before; more focused, more aware, more compassionate. And to gauge others, and self, in their respectivity towards a state of unity. Primarily concern=how you see yourself.
@seraphimra : no because then youe placing an idea you have about what you want to be before you, as a "goal" to feel better or think better of yourself. Instead of directing yourself here, in every moment and being self honest without having to think about "being better then you are today".
@SpamAnn I am speaking of living backwards in time: seeing what you desire to be and bringing this to the present moment, using breath. Others, like perhaps, Bernard can be a blueprint for a more equal alignment. Especially, given his expertise and perserverance, there is a lot to be learned in the way of living through proxy.
@SpamAnn That is an fair assessment. Though the friendly competition that I spoke of defers to introspection. To always strive to be better than you were the day before; more focused, more aware, more compassionate. And to gauge others, and self, in their respectivity towards a state of unity. Primarily concern=how you see yourself.
Technology can be the solution if pursued maturely and applied properly. If we can build a space station then there is absolutely no reason a robot can't handle sewage or any other job. The Earth is big enough and provides enough resources for everyone. Humanity can be free from monetary slavery - free to pursue our full potential and start using the other 90% of our mental capabilities and unlock the deeper secrets to life if we let go of this old system that only benefits the few.
If everybody gets the same money, what incentives is there to work, or to be competitive. Are you talking about a resource based on economy or communism,because other systems,can be easily exploited to the same situation as today. Governments love welfare,because its gives them even more control over the people.The special interest groups benefit off these welfare systems, the most,and future generations are sold out to provide the temporary benefit of these Trojan horse programs.
@KevZen2000 : I dont get why you need competition to live. When I do things competition is NEVER part of it. Competition is needed to boost ones ego and is programmed. Why be a slave to this build in urge to better then another or be seen as great? Its very dishonest towards yourself and the best of all. That you would rather want a competition based society, then a world of equality.
@KevZen2000 : I agree about welfare. The equal money system is not communism or resource based. I suggest you go to the forum to read about it, youtube comment section is to limited and with the new design I cant even see how much characters I got left :/
@SpamAnn.Competition is not a bad thing. The main issue with the money system, today is the fact of governments. Corporatism, enables special interest groups to use the government as the mafia, to weave out all competition, no matter how bad the special interest group are at doing something,and they use people intrinsic nature to help people, to enable bureaucrats, get much of the funds of the welfare programs, that are there to help people.
@KevZen2000 : good or bad are irrelevant. Competition creates jealousy , needs a "better" and a "worse", needs a form of energy to boost the ego. Competition needs losers and winners, someone that feels great or shit. That is why competition in itself, in any way, is abusive. And I will never support that.
What will benefit all is what will benefit all. People should be enabled to find the equality in each other and by that they wont need competition to drive them.
Competition doesn't create jealousy. People create jealousy. Individuals are in control of their own emotions, concepts are not.
Without competition, we would all starve to death. Plants and animals both compete for survival. If suddenly they were to stop competing, then they would inevitably die off, then we'd be next in line for extinction. This theory has so many holes in it that I could fist fuck a different hole until my arm fell off.
@GilbertsonDerick : competition and jealousy are both what humans create and allow. Its all connected. Individuals are not in controle of their emotions, else we wouldnt have such a fucked up world. They think they are in controle, but they are nto. As long as one doesnt realise how he/she is programmed, its not real.
Without competition we would live, we would care for each other as life.
If I can do that, then why wouldnt you be able to care without needing competition?
I just find it very difficult understanding where you're coming from or where you get your ideas. I've found that being concerned with only myself and the people in my life is as much as I can do. Anything other than that is beyond my control. Would you by any chance, based on me telling you that I participate in competition for my own well-being in a world that has given me no other option, consider me as a bad person?
@GilbertsonDerick : using common sense;) Also learned alot from the people on the desteni forum. Being only cnocerned with my own little world would be incredibly selfish, and this is one of the reasons why things never change on this planet. Its not beyond your controle, the people in power are just people like you and me. If we become the majority and stand together, we will decide upon the future of the planet.
Whats a shitty job to you? :-) you say it yourself we are all different my dear, some people want office jobs as they are left brain some people want o clean as it is easy to mediatate as you do, good point just not thought thro, equal money would kill your ego so your mind wouldnt be asking these questions possibly? :-) be safe
The system ensures you earn as much money as you deserve to earn, based on how hard you studied, etc. There are plenty of schemes in place to ensure that everyone has equal opportunities for education and from there its upto you how hard you study, and ultimately how much you earn.
Don't blame the system for your own faults. This equal money system is just an easy way out, and ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
do you really believe that bs? you must do becaust its totally false! this is NOT how it works in reality. People are not given equal opportunities and the system is based on debt, on possession and not on what is best for ALL beings. Some people have no chance to get into education. If your a lucky ass born as an elitist in a rich country then you can make money by agreeing with the capitalist bs yes, but for a lot of people this is not the case.
Billions do not have access to education -- to protect your lifestyle you would condemn them in the name of opportunity and competition. they have no opportunity and if they had -- they will outperform you -- let your fear go -- give them a chance as well -- it is not to bad to be a loser -- losers do not want equal rights for all
equal money system is a kind of mentality to escape ourself from hard work. the only way to create an equal system to make food generation, shelter building, water generation in an automatic system. if we can't do it, i don't think it going to be happen.
@SpamAnn Life is a struggle, working hard is the only way to survive in the long run. If there were no disease, natural disasters, or parasites and if resources were infinite and the weather was always consistent then maybe we'd have a shot.
We have accepted living as a state of survival and it is up to us to stop being slaves to that. If we would do whats best for all and the planet, things would be taken care of and resources would not be used when they are not really needed. We would help build better housing that suites the terrain. For example cave or hill homes in tornado areas. Anyway, we make the world as it is, and the system right now is not the best one. To change we also have to change who we are.I suggets to visit forum
@SpamAnn i didn't make the rules or else i would've made it a lot easier to get raw materials out of the world. extracting primary resources takes a lot of work, like farming, fishing, mining, chopping down trees for wood, etc. there's no way to get around that.
i'm all for change, but i don't think any system can solve the problems inherent in the human condition. there are always advantages and disadvantages.
you know i would love to join your cause if it was possible vacuum cleaner mind screw lol i don't care if Hitler made the system after all he was a genius vacuum under the chair lol divide the work how can we start this seriously
Well im not a hitler follower or anything like that. We are working on solutions that will work so all beings on earth can live. I suggest you join the forum and participate in the discussions so we can work on solutions together. The link is on my page here
we have the capacity to go back to an agrarian system, but because of materialism and our dependency on automation and computers, nobody would be willing to sacrifice that freedom for the simple ways of the agrarian system
it would be the same as no money system the machines would do that stuff and people would get special fair rewards also some men and women pride them self on doing the hard work to appeal to certain people we wont be defined on what we own but on what we do so people would line up for it to get a celebrity like status in that kind of world also it would be much more time to educate ourselves
I do not support pride and wanting to appeal others with hard work or shit like that. Those desires feed the programmed mind to varify itself and its worth according to how others react towards it/you. And celebrity statuses wont be promoted.
There would indeed be much more time to work on our self expression and explore the world and do things we enjoy.
People think we NEED to work our ass off, but that is just because we made it that way.
@SpamAnn true but you know some people will want to do shit jobs cause of their ego which will eventually fade but might as well let them if they volunteer
i wish it was not equal money but just no money at all and no status symbols or materialistic crap that we dont need but i think the old ways would be great for entertainment it would almost be a comedy to us the the way we would be so different from in new world or whatever you call it
There hundreds of thousands of people dying each day. I want them all to live happily. Many neighbors where I live are strangers, giving each other hardly a glance when they walk out their front door. I'd like to see every one of them having each other over for dinner. I want everyone to be as content and close as possible, and then I realize this ideal world is only the world in my head, not the one I see, so what am I to do? If I can make a change, I will, but until then I can only accept it..
You may believe that I am already a victim of their control as I spout my reasons to believe the way "they" do, but I assure you that I am just as warm-hearted as any human being, or robot, could be. If you find yourself in a tight position, it is so simple to think that the world is behind your distress. Many of us feel the same way. We want to mold the world and its people into something that would make us feel less afraid to approach it.
What is behind our distress is all of us, our minds, what we all jave allowed and keep supporting. What we need is a world where what is best for all is being done.
All I'm saying is be careful with this ideology. It's fine to believe that poverty and sadness is a horrible thing - wishful thinking is a virtue in my book- but what truly matters is yourself and the people closest to you. As of today, this is our world, whether we like it or not, so we must to learn to conform to it for our own good, or else it may be ourselves that will harm us the most. We will have to work our way from the top to the bottom to fight corruption in this society.
poverty and abuse are horrible things that make people suffer and die.
No the people closest to me dont matter more, how selfish is that. Its not because I was born in this family that they deserve more and are more special. They are programmed robots as anyone else. The shit they say sometimes omg, and how they raise the children in the family is shocking. Raising them to become robots like themselves. Dont conform. Use the system and change it from the inside out.
I've never discovered a way to actually change the system (that was the issue behind me believing that I could), and I don't think anyone has sat down to come up with all of the specifics behind doing so, because it is so far beyond our understanding. I once thought that what ever was being fed to me was a lie in order to join in on "their" game. I once thought that I was alone - the only one in this world who understood what was really occurring. It makes you feel uneasy to believe you're alone
"its beyond us" is a well known excuse, also often used by religious people to keep believing because "god is just to geat to understand" but while they keep judging and living a life claiming they somewhat know what god wants.
Anyway, we are working on the specifics. We CAN, leaders have done it, we can do it. Join the money forum for discussion.
I felt as if the corruption, lies, and deceit in this world was so widespread that I could not trust hardly anyone. Socially, I became debilitated. People were out to get me, for their own self-interests, primarily greed.
I then began to believe that working for a company would only make me a slave in a system that bases itself on greed. I didn't want any part of the monetary system as a whole. My grades plummeted and my desire to do anything in this world vanished. Depression came, did even more of a tole on me, and yet still I was unable to figure out how a world of absolute equality would actually work. In general, the idea sounded great - everyone would be happy doing what they wanted to do.
ann.. your intentions are good... but there's no way socialism would be accepted in the states.. and using hitler as an example is a reeeeeaaaally bad idea lol but i for 1 appreciate the effort
Its not about socialism or anything, it is about equality for all, an equal chance for all to live a decent life. The details are still being worked out. It will be a new system using effective methods that have been proven to work. The states will also accept it, maybe after some suffering, but inevitably.
lol whoa cmon. you must be assuming there would be some sort of anarchy before this system could be implemented. using the normal beaurocracy it would NEVER be passed through congress... when you say "equality for all" to americans its like having a russian flag tattoed to your forehead... kno what i mean?
This goes beyond currency. It goes into the realm of some spiritual/philosophical pile of poop that, if you think about it long enough, will make you either A) want to kill yourself, or B) cause you to want to hug your biggest rival and thank them for giving you motivation. However, I was born into a middle-class life, and will probably remain middle-class, so my opinion could be irrelevant, and I may very well just be blabbering bunny riff raff jumbo jack wholly mammoth muddy rain sauce.
I dont want A or B . I am in a middle class family to. It is the middle class that can make a big change, since we have a lot of money and the system is very available to us. We can use it to rbing change, slowly but surely.
Like you, I am against the greed for power from sociopaths who run this world, and am all for the elimination of poverty, but I find it difficult to imagine a content world where personal interests run our every day lives. Two years ago I thought I had an idea of how such a world could play out. I dwelled on this delusion, then began to believe that school was a blind institution that rewarded solely based on money and its preference of certain individuals.
Every individual on this planet must first have an absolute ignorance of themselves in a single point in time for there to be equal social status and justice among all, as at this point in time each person will decide who they want to be without being influenced by an already-known set of morals which would ultimately disrupt this cycle if these morals came into play. With such a flawless system of equality, what incentives will there be for us to grow as a civilization?
to be as life, to stand as equals. Why does there have to be money to "grow" ? We are such slaves.
We will actually learn what we enjoy, and do things for the best of all (= real love).
In the beginning money will be used, because as youve stated, humanity cant live without money as reward at this stage. But when we realise ourselves in self honesty, that will stop.
hey. i agree with your opinion. i doubt it can ever happen, given the tech is owned by the corporations. i'm glad you believe it though, we've gotta have hope
Hitler seems to have been funded by the Rothschilds element thru Swiss banks which then went to the Military Industrial Complex in Germany. This get them out of debt. The U.S. is now ruled by this same Military Industrial Complex which all of the above is orchetrated from Britain. It is disgusting evil. It is said, Hitler also is a descendant Rothschild.
People argue that even with enough resources for everyone there still isn't enough beachfront property for everyone. If you were truly free you could explore the world freely, stay at a certain place for a while then move on to somewhere else. Who's going to want to stay in say... Florida their entire life?
I know all of this sounds insane with today's system in place, but their really is enough for everyone, if only the world wasn't "intentionally" poorly managed.
Check out the Venus Project. Automate everything that can be automated, do away with 95% of jobs, get rid of the money completely. Stop all the waste of shitty products designed to fail, erase all the rest of the bullshit no one really needs, then there would be enough resources for everyone to have everything they need.
The Zeitgeist Movement is another Illuminati creation like the Disclosure Project. Their system is identical to NWO in every way. global centralization = global fascism = NWO. The power to control the world's resources = The power to control the world's money supply = NWO. Don't you get it? This is another level of the left-right paradigm of politics. Never mind about Peter Joseph and others who are just actors in the show. Look past their facade and you see the Illuminati.
Although I respect your effort to change the world, I don't understand why you're attached to the monetary system. It's the very system that's enslaving us all. Money has no value unless we give it one. It's a belief system. So who will be in charge to issue and distribute money? Because whoever has this power will have power over the rest of people. Any system that centralizes power is enslavement because we're giving our power away to a few.
Hitler? Really? Hitler? That's the example your going to go with to promote the equal money system? Really? Between the hitler reference and you not having enough respect to put your pet out of the room I couldn't finish the video. Take this video down. It does more harm to the cause than good.
cmpatt4 1 week ago
@cmpatt4 : lol, nice try.
And you do not know my dog and his behavior, I do. He was cuddling with me and I do everything for him.
SpamAnn 1 week ago
yeah humanity tried that, it's called communism. If you argue that people have been programmed to be selfish, how do you propose we solve the selfishness? Humans are naturally and intrinsically motivated to provide for themselves, above all others. This theory works in a perfect world, and looks great on paper; but you simply cannot change human nature, and, if implemented, this would surely fail.
halodude1010 2 months ago
@halodude1010 : simple, start by changing the fundaments of society everywhere. Slowly but surely bringing about another system and way of "raising" people that will change the dynamics. Humans provide for each other as well, look at how tribes function. Dont make excuses based on the so called "human nature" arguments. The deciding factor in those cases is mostly socialisation. Human nature is a little part that can easily be changed.
SpamAnn 2 months ago
@SpamAnn tribe < human society , lol. It is like you would compare 1 to milion...
Balakul 3 weeks ago
@Bamakul: human nature is determined by socialisation. Watch the documentary called: The Century of Self and hear how human nature is programmable -- this makes anything possible even for the socalled less intelligent as the measurement of intelligence is based on consumerism and capitalism without any understanding how learning in fact work..
SpamAnn 3 weeks ago
@halodude1010
Erm, yea, it has nothing to do with communism and where did humanity ever try communism? Stop parotting third parties, start reading Marx, please or this is going to be an epic round of pwnage.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH : exactly, true communism has never even existed, only forms of capitalism who called themselves communist
SpamAnn 1 month ago
@SpamAnn
A key concept in communism is : "from each according to his ability to each according to his need". The key concept of equal money system is: "the same for everyone". These 2 are in direct contradiction to each other.
To be honest, true capitalism has not existed either. I wouldn't want it to and I thinks its premises are flawed (not even worrying about the practical outcome yet), but it hasn't existed yet.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 month ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH : when we say: equality for all, we mean also for each according to his need, because not eveyrone for example requires the same health care, or the same amount of food etc... But the food a baby needs and a 1m80 adult needs, are both of equal value and worth and sustenance to that body. It maintains the body equally as much, even when the quantity and substance differs. A disabled person also cannot do some jobs. Its not that black and white.
SpamAnn 1 month ago
Forget about shitty jobs, what about really important ones that not everyone can do? Doctors first come to mind, but even my job. I'm an engineer, and I studied to become one mostly for having a better paid job and access to a better career and in the end a better life. I'll be honest, if I knew from the start I could get all those things with being a housewife for example, I wouldn't have gone to college at all.
For me, money is a motivation and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
P0IS0N 3 months ago
@P0IS0N : check out equal money forum, viewtopic. php? f=49&t = 6055 . It is only so because thats the way you are programmed to think, to be selfish. Its the way society shapes human beings that they start to become more and more self centered and disconnected from the whole - even allowing abuse in the name of their own good feelings.
SpamAnn 3 months ago
@SpamAnn = btw remove the spaces from the link I place starting with "viewtopic" . Or better: I will place it in the video description.
SpamAnn 3 months ago
@P0IS0N : For discussion go there, this comment section is not the best option for it. The point of it is to resolve an issue anyway. Placing it on the forum will make it more trackable for everyone who wants to read on similar questions in the future. If your not intrested in joining, it means you are not intrested in a solution. And obviously, we stand for a solution.
SpamAnn 3 months ago
the eco-villages will be the supplier and source of food production for the urban dwellers who work in competitive environments to push humanity further into the future. Thus, we have a complete symbiotic system where the aggressive people push us into the future, while the non-aggressive and ambitious provide sustenance for all of humanity. It's the perfect balance.
EasternMerchant 4 months ago
They should eliminate the employee wage system and mandate that all business adopt a co-op system where everyone has a vested interest in each company and that all profits will be distributed in each company based on the amount of lifetime invested in the company. Poor performing employees with little to offer a company should be joined with like people and provided ample real estate to form rural self-sustaining eco-villages so they can still prosper in a non-competitive environment.
EasternMerchant 4 months ago
Say no to censorship! Stop requiring approval for comments please. Censorship, conformity and dogmatic thinking are not the hallmarks of a free society.
hallavast 5 months ago
@hallavast : say YES! to censoring abuse. I put all comments to approval to prevent abusers from posting comments on my channel and on my videos. I suggest everyone to do the same. Allowing abuse freely on your channel, makes you responsible for it as well. And is the same as being the abuser yourself.
SpamAnn 5 months ago
Ok. So if people are expected to do shitty jobs part time, is the mechanism for making sure there is enough people to do that job? Also, if someone has a skill, how do you prevent them from using that skill in a private context to bribe someone else into doing a job they don't want to do for them?
hallavast 5 months ago
@hallavast : Yes there should be a mechanism in place to make sure the common good is taken care off. For these details please visit the forum. It cant be discussed in this space, to small and limited. No one can be bribed into a job they dont want to do. When people are not in survival mode, they cant be MADE to do something for someone elses profit. Also, the system would track all abuse, pure transparancy, no secrets.
SpamAnn 5 months ago
i came here to try and listen to what you have to say, and i know you respect your pet very much, but if you can't respect your viewer to even focus and present your argument, i don't see why you should get my respect to watch your video. (stopped at 3:00) what a shame
sirspiff 7 months ago
@sirspiff : wow , your ego is in your way big time
SpamAnn 7 months ago
this sounds too suspiciously like the Venus Project. no thanks
synchronium24 9 months ago
@synchronium24 : This is not like the venus project. But I would look at your own fear of change and also about assumptions about other ways of living. Our current system is a psychopathical abusive destructive system, it puzzles me how people can just agree with it and then flame at every idea for another system... it is really the blind leading the blind in this world.
SpamAnn 9 months ago
am i missing something? because all i hear is people explaining communism. yes, we all know the world is fubar and something must break. but do any of you really take the time to get intimate with history and thus notice the parallels between this and others of history's failings? i also beg everyone to listen to what Edgar Cayce says on the matters of spirituality there is no spin, only unconscious truth..."Everyday, after i rise, i pray for that humanity to wake up"....(Anon.)
JamesOscar 9 months ago
@JamesOscar : I have had history and I am studying history as well - part of my program in university. Which shows communism is enterly different. Thus do your research on equal oney, it is not like communism. This is also explained on the website. You can go to it and search for "communism" and find the thread. Praying for humanity to wake up, wont make them wake up.
SpamAnn 9 months ago
In the equal money system I will be a photographer, and ill entertain myself by taking pictures of all the plumbers scrubbing shit for the same wages I get having fun. Sounds good to me.
btwicked 10 months ago
@btwicked : that is not how equal money system works. There is a 4 years subscription where work is divided. Investigate it on the website please. And if you have problems with dedicating 4 years for the best of all, you should compare that to the current system where you gotta bust your ass until your about 65 to sustain a system that creates massive abuse.
SpamAnn 10 months ago
Did she just refer to hitler as saving his country?
Oh hey we'll just build some machines to do the dirty work! Who will design, build and maintain the machines? Where will the resources come from to create the machines? I suppose the central planners will tell everyone what to do, where to go and how to get the job done. But that's not slavery. For the benefit of the greatest good, of course. Great.
You people are like children. Your ridiculous shit will die on its own, fortunately.
deasler81 10 months ago
@deasler81 : About the system he used as economy, not what he did to other people such as jews. If machines can do the work, then why not let it? There are human beings in this world who work 14 fucking hours a day for barely any money, just to survive in our capitalist consumerist world. No "central planners". Research equal money , equalmoney . org and for question please open a topic there, you will have larger replies then here in a comment section. We are already slaving away 65 years
SpamAnn 10 months ago
i love your videos!! i like you!! LOL
jonas025 10 months ago
like a password: 7M0u74k9063F29 just 2 make that special '6' & there R@ the minimum of 39 more 'special' characters 2 go & make. & the minimum of 14 keyboard password 2 unlock each of these special passwords. & these special passwords unlocks even ANOTHER sets of super passwords, so a total of 3 segments of passwords. So in others the owner would HAVE 2 have a copy of that passwords & it is even a total pain in the ass just 2 make any adjustments, so the hackers really have no chance @ all!
JayTsunDayVis 11 months ago
@JayTsunDayVis : hey please share your idea on the equal money forum
SpamAnn 11 months ago
tht 6 isn't the 6 U type on ur keyboard, it hve 2B created by a password, & each of these special #s would B@ the min of 40 characters & it takes the min of 14 characters 2 create tht special character & there R min of 40 special total yet N actuality it is 40x14! Passwords 2 unlock a special password character. The point of that is 2 make hackers unable, & I mean UNABLE to hack cuz the passwords R WAY 2 much & complicated.
like a password: 7M0u74k9063F29 just 2 make that special '6'
JayTsunDayVis 11 months ago
Also, there would a national standard of productivity, so a person can't be lazy and try to take a longer time to increase the income based on what they made, the income increases mainly on effective productivity. Capitalism is the best that we have now, but this Equal Money System (E.M.S) That you speak of AND that the idea that propose to discuss on your fourms sounds VERY promising. Also the password on AI system will VERY complicated. Password to make a 'special' 6 and each of --> continue
JayTsunDayVis 11 months ago
@JayTsunDayVis Investigating laziness can come out from a point of remuneration when not being paid enough for the amount of work done. When people get to be Equally Supported within the system, self-motivation is existent at the level of self-supporting self through a system that supports Everyone Equally which implies this is your motive-action as an extra to your already well-living standard. Such standard would simply be measured by what's best for all as the optimum efficiency possible.
DesteniEspanol 11 months ago
I hve a gr8 idea 4 the E.M.S.
Products is determine by a national commonality or rarity of the materials exist, & productivity of workers. 4 example, U work @ a fast food, & made food, the A.I. system will measure how much U made, wut material it made from &time how much time U work N2 make it as 2 determine ur income. Ur boss doesn't pay U cuz he is human, & ppl discriminate w/out knowing it! A.I. system will have recognition ability 2 calcul8 ur performance&national worth of materials made.
JayTsunDayVis 11 months ago
@JayTsunDayVis The approach is still based on a particular value-system placed on to materials as 'how rare they are' determining their price just as the way gold/silver work in the current system. Equality implies all jobs will be remunerated equally regardless of the materials used and the starting point of it will be humans taking self responsibility to provide service for the system as well as generating extra income from self-enjoyment through labor. The entire approach changes then.
DesteniEspanol 11 months ago
i guess what i'm saying is how does a free market exist with a currency that you really don't care about. i mean when they give you a labor credit and you don't keep it, you don't have to try to get people to give you their labor credits. if you do get to keep it, then doesn't it just reinvent the problem of money? the things we have now that are considered necessary to our standard of living were at one point considered a luxury. will you steal peoples luxuries?
darris321 1 year ago
@darris321 All your questions are answered on the forum and equalmoney website, please go there :)
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn okay thanks for the direction
darris321 1 year ago
as i understand it, the equal money system would have 2 types of money. one for luxuries and the other for necessities. if everyone is given, say 4 million dollars, when they spend it, who gets the money?
what determines prices?
how do they decide where to build the food storage?
who builds the food storage?
and when you spend a labor credit, does the place where you spent it EARN a labor credit from your credit or does the administration give them labor credits according to time?
darris321 1 year ago
@RicWenProductions : I dont believe in anything. we are working on setting up something that will workj the best to stop abuse on earth. Thus its a work in progress and if it will work out or not time will tell. Lots of people do not have the same starting point. It is not created equally. And the truth is that often the bastards exploit others because they desire power and money and are willing to treat others as shit for it, and as inferior. Imagine if everyone would do that, fuck.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
You think anyone should become like those who prosper? I dont because there are a lot of selfish assholes.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn how will equal money system stop abuse? it wont. some people will always have that second nature to be abusive
wowyoumegasuck 1 year ago
@wowyoumegasuck : We have discussed this on the forum:) please check it out if your really interested. Abuse in the new system simply wont be allowed.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
watch?v=ZEMxLWZjdoI
TZMNorway 1 year ago
(cont) because I support free speech and competion for ideas. My best wishes to you and have a happy new year! I hope next year will bring some solutions to all of this.
argentummolonlabe 1 year ago
A control system is what we have though. I read the equal money website, and to be honest, it sounds exactly like what the Rothschild’s want. It sounds like they wrote it. A computer chip on a card or preferably under your skin! Digital money allocated to you. What if you don't follow their directions....control, control. This seems to follow their plans. Order out of chaos and problem, reaction, solution. Please be careful what you fight for. I support you and you're ideas (cont)
argentummolonlabe 1 year ago
@argentummolonlabe : lol are you saying rothschild want total global equality without any form of abuse and no one being able to exploit another for profit?
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@argentummolonlabe sounds like you fell for the Alex Jones religion.
Typhoonbladefist 1 year ago
Good point....I do agree that if we all stand against them at once then they will be crushed. I also know that they will use every thing in their arsenal to defend what they have taken, which has taken them hundreds of years to obtain. This means we must all be willing to lay down our lives for freedom. Have you studied Adam Weishaupt ? Are you familiar with his story? Anyhow, great videos and keep up the good work!
argentummolonlabe 1 year ago
@argentummolonlabe : I will check out Adam Weishaupt! thx,, never heard of him
SpamAnn 1 year ago
Question? How will the Rothschilds, Morgans, Rockefellers, and the rest of "the powers that be" give up their wealth and power in order to make this equal money work?
argentummolonlabe 1 year ago
@argentummolonlabe : lol what can they do when the majority of the world population (which are poor) stand behind this idea and stand up as a group? Not much, they need the people to live their lifestyle, without the people support they have nothing.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
I agree with Ron Paul, let there be competition. If the equel money system works and thrives, let it be. If silver and gold works out to be the best. let it be. I say keep the competition going, don't let any one type of system be the only way, this allows for too much control of any one system.
argentummolonlabe 1 year ago
@argentummolonlabe : We need a control system right now considering the amount of abusive people on this earth. We need it as long as people abuse. When that point would not be there then control would not even be necessary. for now we have to work with what we've got and what will work the best.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
I have asked a few destini members what is an equal money system and I just get told to do more research on the web site. I still have no understanding, it needs to be simple to get across to others.
My interpretation is that its a company and the staff live off its produce, do whats needed and get whats needed. Am I wrong
sillymonkey8888 1 year ago
@sillymonkey8888 : yes it is all on the website, thats why the website and forums are put in place = for people to understand and discuss and help along. if you have questions please as on equalmoney forum, better platform then this here. Equal money means everyone gets the basics to survive. thats equal money, and you can only spend it on survival things. Then you also have labour money, which you spend on other things, which you earn by working for it. But there is much more to it.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@Houshalter : animal population naturally balances out. We are not going to shoot people man. lol. It IS the solution to the finite resources. There are enough resources for all the population + even more. Desires in time have to be tamed. When desires stand in the way of what is best for all, then they cant be followed.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn, thats really not an issue. Governments world wide have been absorbing more then 25% of all the resources (that's not counting communist countries even.) If you consider how many more resources could have been produced with those, compound interest basically, we could all be 3 or 4 times more wealthy right now (rough estimate, could very well be alot more.) If there were any poor left, private charities would easily cover them. We should therefore focus our energy there.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter : our first priority is removing poverty. But we are not pro unlimited wealth. Everything must be taken in consideration, nature and respect for our planet aswell. We want a system of equality, equality is the core foundation. Poverty obviously cannot be allowed, no form of abuse can be allowed. Charities are only needed in systems that dont take care of the population. Now charities support capitalism.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn, that sounds good and all, but if I'm right, there wouldn't be any poverty to worry about at all. Besides, nature counts as a finite resource and can be handled fine under capitalism (note: not the same as corporatism), which allocates finite resources more efficiently then any other system. Compare with say, planned economies that do horribly inefficient and require secret police and death camps to maintain.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter : yes no poverty.
Capitalism ALWAYS requires have-nots. We have had several classes about this in school. The foundation has to be equality. Without that, any new system will get fucked by human ego.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
It's easier said than done. If we could right now, we'd automate every shitty job. It's cheaper to have a machine than a human, don't have to worry about holidays, insurance, benefits, sick time, etc. However, there is just so much that can be automated. Automating restocking a grocery store? Plus, what a cold world we'd be in without having that human touch. Can you imagine going to the store/restaurant/gas station, and no humans, just machines? Personally, I like interacting with people.
mak0t0san 1 year ago
@mak0t0san : if people want to do that job then they can, but no person will have to work strenuous and dangerous jobs for the sake of survival, when machines can do that.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
I just have a question. Comment then question.
Under the current system, profit rules correct?
Profit= Sales - Costs
Under the current system businesses minimize cost to maximize revenue correct?
So if we have machines that can increase efficiency wouldn't businesses already have these? Il answer my own question, yes, its called modernization, started in the 1900's in the states.
So your argument is completely invalid and void of all logic.
uconnfb74 1 year ago
@uconnfb74 : I dont see anything contradicting.
Businesses dont already have these, the maximul technologies are not being worked on. Why? because in this system they gotta keep the population at work.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
They tried the equal money system in Russia. They found out people won't give a fuck, if they get paid the same no matter what they do.
You are actually talking about Communism with a big C. It is a horrible idea, only because there will always be tons of people who won't be motivated if it happens. I probably wouldn't work as hard as I possibly could if I would get shitty pay even if I try my hardest. So you are saying we need to kill jews as well? Hitler was a fucking idiot.
danteslight 1 year ago
@danteslight : search "B I G namibia" . It did work. Communism is not the solution, btw communism in this world was fucking abusive. Same shit again : some on top others on the bottom. In equal money people get basic income money1. + a different kind called labour money 2. Which is the money you earn from work and payed according to the effort you have to put in the job. How much time and study it took etc...
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@danteslight : and people wil be motivated because with equal money they can only buy the basics. They cant spend it on anything else. So if they want to play games or something or have a hot tub, they will have to work.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@danteslight : there is a company in America where the boss earns as much as the employers. Every employer loves going to work there, they all earn more then the average worker and they make decisions through voting. It works very very well and is more beneficial then a competitive driven company. + people ar emotivated because of the simple fact that they work together and do something for the common good. (it was a bread making factory)
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn "there is a company in America where the boss earns as much as the employers."
Alvarado Street Bakery (featured in the recent Michael Moore movie)?:
alvaradostreetbakery. com/coop. html
hitssquad 1 year ago
@hitssquad : yes
SpamAnn 1 year ago
when is this going to happen i hope its real soon
MultiTruth777 1 year ago
@MultiTruth777 : this will take much time because we need to research and get good education and jobs to infiltrate the system, start political parties and get the votes from people. You can help. If you want send me a message.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
THIS Is a GREAT Video!! Thank you so much!
MahaNomi 1 year ago
if lazy people dont do anything do they still get paid
king78802 1 year ago
@king78802 : only the minimum to survive, nothing extra. So I doubt many would just want to lay on their couch all day. lol. Since for example video games are a luxury.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
good question...
jaronnewyork 1 year ago
Equal money... What a ridiculous idea. You wan't real results ? I suggest to check out the venusproject and the zeitgeist movement. Check out my playlists for this and both sites as their own.
Money at it self is always without real value it is the resources what matters and means to create it (technology)
Peace
tunnis7us 1 year ago
@tunnis7us : I did check out and i am on the foruims of zeitgeist for a while. Its a good solution for the END stages when humanity can be trusted more but not from the beginning. We need interim steps so we can already deal with the heavily programmed minds of people + stop the starvationa nd all abuse through money. I will make some videos to explain this.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn
Sure
tunnis7us 1 year ago
In an EQUAL MONEY SYSTEM, I would do ANY JOB that is required to be done!.
I`m so sick of this completly retarded survival system!
southanjuna 1 year ago
Cavemen had an equal money system.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead : so you claim they had money?
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn Nope, but they certainly had equal money. They all had zero. Therefor every caveman cleaned his own toilet. Equal money would do that too. We would all be cleaning our own toilets again.
I'm all for equal money but then what would the world be for? We suffer this shit hole so we can be special. Who's special if we start to make everyone equal again? In Heaven all are equal. In hell we get to be special! See the attraction yet? We come to earth and suffer death just for specialness.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead the point is to stop specialness/superiority/wanting to be better then another etc... all things which create inequality and abuse. So that we can stop the suffering. Heaven has to be created on earth, else its not real. Because all we know about and directly influence is here on earth.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
you clean up your own shit. because with equal money no one is going to do it for you unless they are a crackhead. but then its your choice you support them.
buggfire 1 year ago
There is such a thing as friendly competition, based upon a mutual respect for anothers' similar talent and the drive to display your talent to and for the other. This supports creativity, inginuity, and innovation. Most importantly, it doesn't cause division. The ego has potential as a motivational computer-like tool. Though we must remember, 'If a man uses the right tools in the wrong way, then the right tools worked in the wrong way.' Let us think of others, be respectful, joyous, and equals.
seraphimra 1 year ago
@seraphimra : competition is competition. With competition there is always a feeling of wanting to be better = ego, wanting to be special/better/greater etc... thus valuing how others see you, if they think you are better/special/more. Its always seperation. If your just playing a game, and laugh about it, its not real competition. Its only so when the patterns of really wanting to be more/better/special is present within it.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn That is an fair assessment. Though the friendly competition that I spoke of defers to introspection. To always strive to be better than you were the day before; more focused, more aware, more compassionate. And to gauge others, and self, in their respectivity towards a state of unity. Primarily concern=how you see yourself.
seraphimra 1 year ago
@seraphimra : no because then youe placing an idea you have about what you want to be before you, as a "goal" to feel better or think better of yourself. Instead of directing yourself here, in every moment and being self honest without having to think about "being better then you are today".
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn I am speaking of living backwards in time: seeing what you desire to be and bringing this to the present moment, using breath. Others, like perhaps, Bernard can be a blueprint for a more equal alignment. Especially, given his expertise and perserverance, there is a lot to be learned in the way of living through proxy.
seraphimra 1 year ago
@SpamAnn That is an fair assessment. Though the friendly competition that I spoke of defers to introspection. To always strive to be better than you were the day before; more focused, more aware, more compassionate. And to gauge others, and self, in their respectivity towards a state of unity. Primarily concern=how you see yourself.
seraphimra 1 year ago
Technology can be the solution if pursued maturely and applied properly. If we can build a space station then there is absolutely no reason a robot can't handle sewage or any other job. The Earth is big enough and provides enough resources for everyone. Humanity can be free from monetary slavery - free to pursue our full potential and start using the other 90% of our mental capabilities and unlock the deeper secrets to life if we let go of this old system that only benefits the few.
MindOfAquarius 1 year ago
Hitler???????not a good poster boy spam!
D7585 1 year ago
If everybody gets the same money, what incentives is there to work, or to be competitive. Are you talking about a resource based on economy or communism,because other systems,can be easily exploited to the same situation as today. Governments love welfare,because its gives them even more control over the people.The special interest groups benefit off these welfare systems, the most,and future generations are sold out to provide the temporary benefit of these Trojan horse programs.
KevZen2000 1 year ago
@KevZen2000 : I dont get why you need competition to live. When I do things competition is NEVER part of it. Competition is needed to boost ones ego and is programmed. Why be a slave to this build in urge to better then another or be seen as great? Its very dishonest towards yourself and the best of all. That you would rather want a competition based society, then a world of equality.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@KevZen2000 : I agree about welfare. The equal money system is not communism or resource based. I suggest you go to the forum to read about it, youtube comment section is to limited and with the new design I cant even see how much characters I got left :/
SpamAnn 1 year ago
@SpamAnn.Competition is not a bad thing. The main issue with the money system, today is the fact of governments. Corporatism, enables special interest groups to use the government as the mafia, to weave out all competition, no matter how bad the special interest group are at doing something,and they use people intrinsic nature to help people, to enable bureaucrats, get much of the funds of the welfare programs, that are there to help people.
KevZen2000 1 year ago
@KevZen2000 : good or bad are irrelevant. Competition creates jealousy , needs a "better" and a "worse", needs a form of energy to boost the ego. Competition needs losers and winners, someone that feels great or shit. That is why competition in itself, in any way, is abusive. And I will never support that.
What will benefit all is what will benefit all. People should be enabled to find the equality in each other and by that they wont need competition to drive them.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
Competition doesn't create jealousy. People create jealousy. Individuals are in control of their own emotions, concepts are not.
Without competition, we would all starve to death. Plants and animals both compete for survival. If suddenly they were to stop competing, then they would inevitably die off, then we'd be next in line for extinction. This theory has so many holes in it that I could fist fuck a different hole until my arm fell off.
GilbertsonDerick 1 year ago
@GilbertsonDerick : competition and jealousy are both what humans create and allow. Its all connected. Individuals are not in controle of their emotions, else we wouldnt have such a fucked up world. They think they are in controle, but they are nto. As long as one doesnt realise how he/she is programmed, its not real.
Without competition we would live, we would care for each other as life.
If I can do that, then why wouldnt you be able to care without needing competition?
SpamAnn 1 year ago
I just find it very difficult understanding where you're coming from or where you get your ideas. I've found that being concerned with only myself and the people in my life is as much as I can do. Anything other than that is beyond my control. Would you by any chance, based on me telling you that I participate in competition for my own well-being in a world that has given me no other option, consider me as a bad person?
GilbertsonDerick 1 year ago
@GilbertsonDerick : using common sense;) Also learned alot from the people on the desteni forum. Being only cnocerned with my own little world would be incredibly selfish, and this is one of the reasons why things never change on this planet. Its not beyond your controle, the people in power are just people like you and me. If we become the majority and stand together, we will decide upon the future of the planet.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
Whats a shitty job to you? :-) you say it yourself we are all different my dear, some people want office jobs as they are left brain some people want o clean as it is easy to mediatate as you do, good point just not thought thro, equal money would kill your ego so your mind wouldnt be asking these questions possibly? :-) be safe
johnstjulien 1 year ago
depends what people perceive to be shitty. I am talking about it because it was brought on by others.
SpamAnn 1 year ago
The system ensures you earn as much money as you deserve to earn, based on how hard you studied, etc. There are plenty of schemes in place to ensure that everyone has equal opportunities for education and from there its upto you how hard you study, and ultimately how much you earn.
Don't blame the system for your own faults. This equal money system is just an easy way out, and ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
IBGavin 2 years ago
do you really believe that bs? you must do becaust its totally false! this is NOT how it works in reality. People are not given equal opportunities and the system is based on debt, on possession and not on what is best for ALL beings. Some people have no chance to get into education. If your a lucky ass born as an elitist in a rich country then you can make money by agreeing with the capitalist bs yes, but for a lot of people this is not the case.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Billions do not have access to education -- to protect your lifestyle you would condemn them in the name of opportunity and competition. they have no opportunity and if they had -- they will outperform you -- let your fear go -- give them a chance as well -- it is not to bad to be a loser -- losers do not want equal rights for all
DesteniProductions 2 years ago
equal money system is a kind of mentality to escape ourself from hard work. the only way to create an equal system to make food generation, shelter building, water generation in an automatic system. if we can't do it, i don't think it going to be happen.
cywongdigi1984 2 years ago
Why do you accept the moral standard that we have to "work hard" to live? Why do you accept that as they have programmed it into you ?
SpamAnn 2 years ago
@SpamAnn Life is a struggle, working hard is the only way to survive in the long run. If there were no disease, natural disasters, or parasites and if resources were infinite and the weather was always consistent then maybe we'd have a shot.
FluffyFeralMarmot 2 years ago
We have accepted living as a state of survival and it is up to us to stop being slaves to that. If we would do whats best for all and the planet, things would be taken care of and resources would not be used when they are not really needed. We would help build better housing that suites the terrain. For example cave or hill homes in tornado areas. Anyway, we make the world as it is, and the system right now is not the best one. To change we also have to change who we are.I suggets to visit forum
SpamAnn 2 years ago
@SpamAnn i didn't make the rules or else i would've made it a lot easier to get raw materials out of the world. extracting primary resources takes a lot of work, like farming, fishing, mining, chopping down trees for wood, etc. there's no way to get around that.
FluffyFeralMarmot 2 years ago
I didnt say there was. But its no excuse to support this abusive system and remain as we always were.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
thanks, i'll check out the forums.
i'm all for change, but i don't think any system can solve the problems inherent in the human condition. there are always advantages and disadvantages.
what do you do for a living, if i may ask?
FluffyFeralMarmot 2 years ago
Im a student. And an equal system has to be manifested step by step.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
ok you know the fourm is bullshit wont let me in
sidewaysjsideways 2 years ago
You judge to fast.
The forum requires approval because of the abuse that happens when we just allow everyone to immediatly join.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
@SpamAnn srry
sidewaysjsideways 2 years ago
you know i would love to join your cause if it was possible vacuum cleaner mind screw lol i don't care if Hitler made the system after all he was a genius vacuum under the chair lol divide the work how can we start this seriously
sidewaysjsideways 2 years ago
Well im not a hitler follower or anything like that. We are working on solutions that will work so all beings on earth can live. I suggest you join the forum and participate in the discussions so we can work on solutions together. The link is on my page here
SpamAnn 2 years ago
we have the capacity to go back to an agrarian system, but because of materialism and our dependency on automation and computers, nobody would be willing to sacrifice that freedom for the simple ways of the agrarian system
apologeticsman 2 years ago
it would be the same as no money system the machines would do that stuff and people would get special fair rewards also some men and women pride them self on doing the hard work to appeal to certain people we wont be defined on what we own but on what we do so people would line up for it to get a celebrity like status in that kind of world also it would be much more time to educate ourselves
sidewaysjsideways 2 years ago
I do not support pride and wanting to appeal others with hard work or shit like that. Those desires feed the programmed mind to varify itself and its worth according to how others react towards it/you. And celebrity statuses wont be promoted.
There would indeed be much more time to work on our self expression and explore the world and do things we enjoy.
People think we NEED to work our ass off, but that is just because we made it that way.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
@SpamAnn true but you know some people will want to do shit jobs cause of their ego which will eventually fade but might as well let them if they volunteer
i wish it was not equal money but just no money at all and no status symbols or materialistic crap that we dont need but i think the old ways would be great for entertainment it would almost be a comedy to us the the way we would be so different from in new world or whatever you call it
sidewaysjsideways 2 years ago
No money at all is the end result, but in the meanwhile we need some transfer systems to get to that point.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
@SpamAnn i suggest the credit system
sidewaysjsideways 2 years ago
I checked out the forum.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
There hundreds of thousands of people dying each day. I want them all to live happily. Many neighbors where I live are strangers, giving each other hardly a glance when they walk out their front door. I'd like to see every one of them having each other over for dinner. I want everyone to be as content and close as possible, and then I realize this ideal world is only the world in my head, not the one I see, so what am I to do? If I can make a change, I will, but until then I can only accept it..
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
Yes in our society no one talks to each other either. Change with yourself, and direct yourself to do whats best for all.
The start is self honesty and seeing ones own mind-enslavement patterns. join the forum.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
You may believe that I am already a victim of their control as I spout my reasons to believe the way "they" do, but I assure you that I am just as warm-hearted as any human being, or robot, could be. If you find yourself in a tight position, it is so simple to think that the world is behind your distress. Many of us feel the same way. We want to mold the world and its people into something that would make us feel less afraid to approach it.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
What is behind our distress is all of us, our minds, what we all jave allowed and keep supporting. What we need is a world where what is best for all is being done.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
All I'm saying is be careful with this ideology. It's fine to believe that poverty and sadness is a horrible thing - wishful thinking is a virtue in my book- but what truly matters is yourself and the people closest to you. As of today, this is our world, whether we like it or not, so we must to learn to conform to it for our own good, or else it may be ourselves that will harm us the most. We will have to work our way from the top to the bottom to fight corruption in this society.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
poverty and abuse are horrible things that make people suffer and die.
No the people closest to me dont matter more, how selfish is that. Its not because I was born in this family that they deserve more and are more special. They are programmed robots as anyone else. The shit they say sometimes omg, and how they raise the children in the family is shocking. Raising them to become robots like themselves. Dont conform. Use the system and change it from the inside out.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
I've never discovered a way to actually change the system (that was the issue behind me believing that I could), and I don't think anyone has sat down to come up with all of the specifics behind doing so, because it is so far beyond our understanding. I once thought that what ever was being fed to me was a lie in order to join in on "their" game. I once thought that I was alone - the only one in this world who understood what was really occurring. It makes you feel uneasy to believe you're alone
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
"its beyond us" is a well known excuse, also often used by religious people to keep believing because "god is just to geat to understand" but while they keep judging and living a life claiming they somewhat know what god wants.
Anyway, we are working on the specifics. We CAN, leaders have done it, we can do it. Join the money forum for discussion.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
I felt as if the corruption, lies, and deceit in this world was so widespread that I could not trust hardly anyone. Socially, I became debilitated. People were out to get me, for their own self-interests, primarily greed.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
its true, others most of the time cant be trusted. ANd I would ask myself why I need to trust another in the first place.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
I then began to believe that working for a company would only make me a slave in a system that bases itself on greed. I didn't want any part of the monetary system as a whole. My grades plummeted and my desire to do anything in this world vanished. Depression came, did even more of a tole on me, and yet still I was unable to figure out how a world of absolute equality would actually work. In general, the idea sounded great - everyone would be happy doing what they wanted to do.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
we have to use the system to change it.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
ann.. your intentions are good... but there's no way socialism would be accepted in the states.. and using hitler as an example is a reeeeeaaaally bad idea lol but i for 1 appreciate the effort
likeapro210 2 years ago
Its not about socialism or anything, it is about equality for all, an equal chance for all to live a decent life. The details are still being worked out. It will be a new system using effective methods that have been proven to work. The states will also accept it, maybe after some suffering, but inevitably.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
lol whoa cmon. you must be assuming there would be some sort of anarchy before this system could be implemented. using the normal beaurocracy it would NEVER be passed through congress... when you say "equality for all" to americans its like having a russian flag tattoed to your forehead... kno what i mean?
likeapro210 2 years ago
This goes beyond currency. It goes into the realm of some spiritual/philosophical pile of poop that, if you think about it long enough, will make you either A) want to kill yourself, or B) cause you to want to hug your biggest rival and thank them for giving you motivation. However, I was born into a middle-class life, and will probably remain middle-class, so my opinion could be irrelevant, and I may very well just be blabbering bunny riff raff jumbo jack wholly mammoth muddy rain sauce.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
I dont want A or B . I am in a middle class family to. It is the middle class that can make a big change, since we have a lot of money and the system is very available to us. We can use it to rbing change, slowly but surely.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Like you, I am against the greed for power from sociopaths who run this world, and am all for the elimination of poverty, but I find it difficult to imagine a content world where personal interests run our every day lives. Two years ago I thought I had an idea of how such a world could play out. I dwelled on this delusion, then began to believe that school was a blind institution that rewarded solely based on money and its preference of certain individuals.
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
Every individual on this planet must first have an absolute ignorance of themselves in a single point in time for there to be equal social status and justice among all, as at this point in time each person will decide who they want to be without being influenced by an already-known set of morals which would ultimately disrupt this cycle if these morals came into play. With such a flawless system of equality, what incentives will there be for us to grow as a civilization?
GilbertsonDerick 2 years ago
to be as life, to stand as equals. Why does there have to be money to "grow" ? We are such slaves.
We will actually learn what we enjoy, and do things for the best of all (= real love).
In the beginning money will be used, because as youve stated, humanity cant live without money as reward at this stage. But when we realise ourselves in self honesty, that will stop.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
hey. i agree with your opinion. i doubt it can ever happen, given the tech is owned by the corporations. i'm glad you believe it though, we've gotta have hope
domstott86 2 years ago
sounds like a good idea. who will build the machines to do the jobs?
FluffyFeralMarmot 2 years ago
We will, machine builders. There are people that enjoy to do this, and we will work together to establish this.
SpamAnn 2 years ago
Hitler seems to have been funded by the Rothschilds element thru Swiss banks which then went to the Military Industrial Complex in Germany. This get them out of debt. The U.S. is now ruled by this same Military Industrial Complex which all of the above is orchetrated from Britain. It is disgusting evil. It is said, Hitler also is a descendant Rothschild.
nitereign 2 years ago
perhaps you could share with us in another video some of Hitler's other accomplishments.
111genesis111 2 years ago
perhaps I will
SpamAnn 2 years ago
that would be cool Ann
MarlenVargasDelRazo 2 years ago
People argue that even with enough resources for everyone there still isn't enough beachfront property for everyone. If you were truly free you could explore the world freely, stay at a certain place for a while then move on to somewhere else. Who's going to want to stay in say... Florida their entire life?
I know all of this sounds insane with today's system in place, but their really is enough for everyone, if only the world wasn't "intentionally" poorly managed.
trevronwithtechron 2 years ago
Check out the Venus Project. Automate everything that can be automated, do away with 95% of jobs, get rid of the money completely. Stop all the waste of shitty products designed to fail, erase all the rest of the bullshit no one really needs, then there would be enough resources for everyone to have everything they need.
trevronwithtechron 2 years ago
Are you in the zeitgeist movement?
Amuris86 2 years ago
No, I don't even like the term movement, but I do agree with a lot of the concepts.
trevronwithtechron 2 years ago
The Zeitgeist Movement is another Illuminati creation like the Disclosure Project. Their system is identical to NWO in every way. global centralization = global fascism = NWO. The power to control the world's resources = The power to control the world's money supply = NWO. Don't you get it? This is another level of the left-right paradigm of politics. Never mind about Peter Joseph and others who are just actors in the show. Look past their facade and you see the Illuminati.
heavenlyutopia 2 years ago
Although I respect your effort to change the world, I don't understand why you're attached to the monetary system. It's the very system that's enslaving us all. Money has no value unless we give it one. It's a belief system. So who will be in charge to issue and distribute money? Because whoever has this power will have power over the rest of people. Any system that centralizes power is enslavement because we're giving our power away to a few.
spiritualessence 2 years ago 2