He said he was listening to "Stronger" on the radio and the kicks irritated him. Daft Punk does not have a song called "Stronger." He was obviously talking about his own version of the song.
a lame fl plugin. sigh people still want to talk about fl when there's people paying a lot more for those fl beats than yours. They are all just tools
Ya'll who are talking shit about KANYE are BRAINWASHED by the Illuminati under Project Mainstream Brainwash aka Project Brainwash Mainstream... YE IS A LEGEND. The MEDIA is FOOLING YALL BIG TIME!!!!!! KANYE IS A FUCKIN LEGEND.. FROM TORONTO TO CHI CITY
na.. he was talking about his own track.. he just wanted his own track to be mixed better.. you wouldn't understand unless you're a producer yourself.
Timbaland ... Man. He knows his stuff! Wish I be all in his brain. Can you teach me wise man! It's funny. He's lettin Kanye no whats up. Love it the boss Jay is just like. Handle it. Ha ha that's cool
@secuyoung I use FL all the time. Alot of big producers are using it now as well. It's the new era of music production. But as you can see, some of these older cats on this post are stuck in their ways. They seem to think that there is something magical about their old, dusty ancient equipment. To answer your question, FL pretty much has an MPC function built into it.
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@BlasianSensation68 The APC series are MIDI controllers and thus only functional when connected to a computer or other MIDI device. The MPC series are samplers, which works stand-alone OR in conjunction with other gear. How do you plan to use it? Do you have a DAW such as Cubase, Ableton, etc? An MPC is a great drum sampler, but you can accomplish the same thing with a MIDI controller and software. Check out Native Instrument's Maschine. Research before buying anything!
@futilerecordings Thanks that helps alot. I'm just lookin for some type of MIDI controller or device that i can sample with and make beats with and use with FL Studio.
@BlasianSensation68 Well FL Studio is a sampler (among other things). A MIDI controller is simply a device that you can plug in to a computer and use to control your software. You press a key/pad on your controller and FL will respond. A MIDI controller itself does not sample.
@futilerecordings Oh and another question, i figured you might know the answer to this as well, what's the difference between a MIDI controller with pads and a keyboard MIDI controller? I'm new to all of this and i just wanna figure everything out
@BlasianSensation68 It just depends how you like to work. Some people like to bang on drum pads, others prefer piano-style keys. Some controllers have both (check the Akai MPK series).
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so let me get this straight... kanye west was driving down the street and heard DAFT PUNK and thought he could make it better... this man's ego needs to be destroyed.
@DaRocBeast Bitch just cause I put a moustache on the mona lisa doesn't make that any better. course, you probably don't even know what the mona lisa is, bitch.
@projectuniform Do I really need to know what the Mona Lisa is to tell you straight up that if you listen to both versions of Stronger, the original by Daft Punk and the sampled version by Kanye, that Ye's version isn't better? Daft Punk is cool but if you honestly think Kanye didn't improve the original sound and concept of the track then you must be going bonkers.
@DaRocBeast All kidding aside, you should really know what the Mona Lisa is. Kanye is like a little retarded boy colouring a picture on a computer, when Daft Punk built the computer.
@projectuniform Kanye is everything that's wrong w/ music production. The sampler is the most powerful instrument ever created. You can take a 1 second sample of a sine wave tone and create an entire symphony with just that waveform... Yet Kanye (and others) take an entire 16 bar segment from another artist, layer some 808s over top and call it an original work. It's truly sad. There's plenty of room for creative sampling, but commercial hip hop doesn't seem to care for it.
@EEW851 Yes, but there's a difference. Kanye is essentially a "cover band". He takes entire songs written and performed by others, and puts new drums over them. Daft Punk uses samples, as does nearly every electronic artist... but I've never heard a Daft Punk song and thought "Wow! That's just a Bee Gee's song with some 808's over it!" Daft Punk CREATES music. Kanye REPACKAGES music for a different audience. The end result may sound great, I just don't give Kanye much credit for it.
I would much prefer turning knobs and buttons than a mouse. Its a very tough job saving up for hardware unless you have hit records to help finance it all or that you are working very hard and making sacrifices to do it.
Tim and Kayne they use hardware no vst can replace the sound and feel of real hardware and of course they can use vsti are you crazy. When you buy for example a moog vst synthesizer it does sound kinda like a Moog depending on your digi converters but i will say this software can not beat Hardware don't believe the marketing hype.
Hardware has no equal its in front of you and you get on with it. I can do more with a DX7s--QX7 and VS880 than half the producers in million dollar recording suites. Think I am joking check my track Starship enterprise at the end of the month. It all starts in the HUMAN MIND. Never forget that.
@plod78 You are a fucking idiot. Who gives a fuck about MdL, when were talking about Timbaland and Kanye. Comparing them makes you look like an ignorant uneducated wannabe producer. Software is great, I agree, but hardware is far superior in sound quality. Software tries to emulate the sound of gear like the MPC, but ask ANY producer - it doesnt come close. Thats why real producers - Dr Luke, Timbaland, Benny Blanco, Redman, Pharrell, Red One, etc. ALL prefer hardware over VST's.
@lovetrainorchestra You are sounding really ignorant. Technology has advanced tremendously. The sound that is in your 5 year old MPC has already been reproduced and even upgraded in music recording software. Everything is digital now. If you want to limit yourself to pieces of equipment, then you are just putting yourself in a box. You'll never advance. You'll have to constantly keep buying more and more equipment to replace your out-of-date machines. You obviously don't know much about music.
@plod78 If you believe your digital third-grade squeeaky clean toy sounds will EVER match, copy or reproduce the rawness of an old record put through an MPC, you're the one who knows jackshit about music. Just a fact, son.
@AkademicDesignLabs Let me educate your real quick, son. Do you even understand what makes it possible for an MPC to produce sound? It's nothing more than a computer chip. That's right, a COMPUTER CHIP. That's what makes the equipment make sound. Now think about it for a minute, you doofus. You're basically saying that today's topnotch computers can't even compare to a computer chip that came out 10 years ago. That's like saying a cd can't compare to a cassette . Now go slap yourself, genius.
@plod78 Educate yourself first, fucking idiot. The point is not whether it's a computer chip or an analog device, DUMBFUCK, the point is the dressing and processing of the sound that comes out. That's why serious producers deal with MPC's and hardware filters, to get the rawness and grime of a hardware-filtered sound. Stick to toy beats and be quiet, pathetic lamer, you know nothing about music production.
@AkademicDesignLabs Hahaha you're a complete dumbass if you honestly think that there is some magical "rawness" that comes out of hardware. You're one of those idiots that never bothered to keep up to date with new and improved technology. And then you try to insult digital music production when all of your favorite producer's would sound like garbage if it wasn't for the mixing engineers who use nothing but software to edit the sounds. You must be like 45 years old. LMAO. Fuck outta here.
@plod78@AkademicDesignLabs well... both you guys are at least partially right. Hardware generally creates harmonics based on the frequencies of the input. The harmonics created through say, a tube, can give a pleasing warmth because most of the new harmonics are in octaves. Sure, crazy things can be synthesized by software (Native Instruments eherm) but a lot of great character can be given by hardware.
@byouno93 I know what you're talking about but I also have software that creates the same harmonics. Like I said, there isn't anything that a piece of hardware can do that music software can't. You just have to learn what's out there and learn how to use it. There are tons of filters and plugins out there. Thanks for your feedback, though.
@plod78 You're the dumbass with no ear if you can't hear the difference between a hardware-filtered vynil sample and a digitally-EQ'd one. Fucking lame. I'm 24 and have produced since 15, I work at a local studio, don't worry about me, kiddo. Worry about not embarrassing yourself anymore with every post you make.
@AkademicDesignLabs The problem with you, kid, is that you have no idea what's out there these days. You're stuck in a mindset that you MUST use hardware to get the sound you want. That's completely false. You've just never been exposed to the right types of filters and plugins (if you've even ever tried to use them.) Trust me kid, I can make any beat sound like it came from your 10 year old piece of equipment. Everything from the "crackling" sound of vinyl to the tube harmonics.
@plod78 And I'll be able to tell straight away that your shit is digitally-filtered. And that's it, that's the difference between a true music lover and a cheap hot-head producer. Understood? And let me laugh a little at "you have no idea what's out there". It's cool sonny...stick to FL.
@AkademicDesignLabs Actually, with today's computing it's nigh on impossible to tell the difference between certain minimum phase digital EQ's and real analog. That's not coming from me either; it's straight out of Bob Katz's book on mastering.
@AkademicDesignLabs You're the one with no idea, all those big ass studios with tons of hardware equipment, you'd be surprised to know most of the producers in those studios are now using plugins. Sounds you think are hardware on a track, are really just plugins ;)
@1wibble2 Kid, I work in studios, I nearly live in them. Don't worry. I know exactly what I'm talking about, and better believe I can tell the difference between a lame FL plugin and a rich, hardware-filtered sample.
@AkademicDesignLabs You're talking to a 32 year old with 15 years in the business, and there are more plugins in existence than the ones that come with fruity loops. With the best out there, you'd fail a blind test, for sure. I'm certain some of your favourite tracks out there that you think were done entirely with hardware have actually used a ton of plugins.
That's crazy man.. Make a song then fast forward shit is in everyone's head repeating what you had in your head before all that even happened... Mindfucking and incredible
A hella good argument goin on here. All I can say is whatever you have master it, then conquer something else. There is so much to learn and to keep evolving is key. Remember that before These two got to where theyre at now, they were in the same position as others. Respect to those keeping it true and keep doin your damn thing.
@MusicLoverRecords just make sure it sounds clear you know when something sounds good or not. just make it sound good. thats all you need in the industry make things sound good now mastering is a little end step to give little EQ in few parts and set decibels and frequency right with compress ect. to make the track perfect 100%
@SaintyDesigns yes, the sample is from daft punk but all these daft buggers can do is rip off other peoples music and use sampled drum sounds. I would like to see them record real drums and then produce the sound. But we all that they would fail bad. that is where the art is,
@orezmusic they don't just used sampled sounds, they tweak, EQ...etc to get the sound they want. They use so many different sounds from choirs, to tabla's it'd be impossible to physically record every single sound they've used to make their songs. An either way, how far do you go, I would like to see a rock band Build thier own drum kit to achieve the sound they want and then record it!! a recorded drum is the same as a sampled one!
These dudes are multi-platinum producers and they don't seem to know how to use proper software to create the sound they are looking for. They expect those expensive keyboards to already have the sound they want and all they gotta do is press a button. Someone show these dudes how to use things such as EQ's and compression. It's easy as hell to do in any DAW program. Fuck all that expensive equipment.
@plod78. I disagree. If you can get a clean, crisp, clear sample of the sound you are looking for you only have to tweak/EQ it slightly to get what you're after. This will sound 10,000,000 times better than a lazy producer who doesn't bother finding the correct sound and just EQ's the shit out of the first sample he finds!!! This is what seperates Proffessional $1,000,000 production from low quality, lazy ass, bedroom production!!!!!!
@mustachiosch It's not being lazy. It's called having knowledge of up-to-date technology. Some people are just stuck in the past. Old-ass producers who are ignorant when it comes to today's technology. If you know how to properly EQ and master a track, then it will sound just as clean and crisp as anything else. You're probably one of those dudes that goes out and spends thousands of bucks for an MPC, not knowing that most production software is capable of the same functions and more.
@plod78 What the fuck are you talking about? You think Timbaland and Kanye don't know how to use music software? Timbaland's engineer is Jimmy Douglas. He's won 4 Grammys. He has also designed VSTs and software. EQ'ing and mastering a track has nothing to do with undertones and low-pass, which is what Kanye's dealing with in this video. By the way, there is no music production software even close to an MPC. I've used BOTH for decades. It's not our fault you're too broke to buy an MPC.
@BlackCloverRecords i have ableton and i'n not a big serious producer, but i like the mpc flavor on beats and i was thinking of buying one, which would you recommend, either at guitar center or sam asssh?
@BlackCloverRecords good on u mate some people just think its easy&they dont really have a clue,like u im a producerdj/mainly/ with software&hardware,i never knew that jimmy douglas worked with them& had won 4grammy`s though,thanks for that imfo,i would never of known,by the way like u said where would we be without the `MPC`s,i dont know where id be without my pads,i like maschine.have you actually published any of your tunes?jay
@BlackCloverRecords Well Im not sayin that your opition on MPC > PC DAW+VSTs is wrong, but give me one reason why should be that compact processing unit within MPC with embedded softs somehow better in sound processing than todays desktops. Are there any better AD/DA than on expensive soundcards? Im a student of informatics, Ive never tried MPC on my own, but so far I think that MPC greatness is one big myth. But if you have any valid technical arguments, please tell em.
@BlackCloverRecords would you recommend immediately buying an mpc for entry level producers like myself? Im not sure if i should spend money down the synth route or the drum machine route.
@MyDormantSoul You don't really need to invest lots of money on hardware. Hardware will only limit you. The best way to go is to use music production SOFTWARE and VST's.. You'll be amazed how much more you can do with it and you will always be able to upgrade your sound kits and modify them. One perfect example is a young producer named MdL. He now works with some of the most popular recording artists out right now. He sold most of his hardware and only uses VST's now. It's the computer age, bro
@BlackCloverRecords Another ignorant ass bitch. Just shut your mouth son. You sound real stupid right now. And no, Timbaland's 40 year old ass doesn't know anything about music software. He's stuck in the past. That's why he has an engineer to do all that for him. A real producer knows how to create the sound he wants without going crazy trying to find it from somebody else. By the way, I'm far from broke.
@BlackCloverRecords Ha! Clueless. The MPC samplers are great, no doubt. But there's nothing special or magic about it. FL or Ableton paired with a pad controller will give you the SAME results. Admittedly, the converters on the AKAI are top notch, and can add some mojo to your audio just through the conversion. But to say there's no software even close to the MPC shows that you're an ignorant fool. Name ONE feature the MPC has that I can't do with software. NAME ONE!
@BlackCloverRecords Oh and "EQing has nothing to do with low-pass"??? WTF, are you a moron? An EQ and a low-pass are both filters. So get off your "I been blah blah for decades" soapbox.
@secuyoung the choir sound will have either been a VST plugin, or a sound from the keyboard he was using, its not preloaded into the software all ready. google best choir vst and youn should find some good ones, dont know of any off by hand because I dont really use them.
.... I also forgot to mention that the clean, crisp sound is actually achieved after the track has been sent to the mastering engineer who is in charge of making sure everything sounds right. And how do you think they do it? That's right, they PROPERLY "EQ the shit out of the track".
@plod78 OH WOW DUDE! I'm really desperate to hear the tunes you've made which are sooo much better than Kanye and Timbaland, when are you going to upload this amazing music you've made with your free EQ plugins and copy of fruityloops lol
@plod78 Do you honestly believe you can match the quality of a $100k mixing table? The day someone can show me how to do that ill give up making music. Your an idiot.
@PhrazeMuzik I say yes! Maybe back then one couldn't, but these days, you can. You still need to put in like $30gs though to buy a good front end and back end. That's all!
@experiment0003 $30k is still a professional figure wouldn't you agree. How many enthusiasts are going to spend that on a home studio? You can make a great quality song by spending under $5k but to get that kind of quality you still have to fork out big money.
@PhrazeMuzik the truth is you can't get far with $5k... you'll make something decent, but compared to the big league, it's almost impossible (almost!).
But nowadays, with as little as $30k, you can really put out something that is close to, if not better than, the real thing.
Tim was dropping some knowledge here about drums - You can't compress something that aint there - your probably better off finding a new drum in the long run then trying to throw alot on to something that aint giving you that character your looking for
@ShottyGunzBeatz yea it seems kanye was thinking more about placement of instruments, and tim was trying to bring up the point that if he makes the sounds better, kanye will like any beat.
@energeez Naw I don't think that was the case - Kanye knew what he was looking for he just didn't have it in his arsenal - Tim has a leg up on most producers because of his extensive sound collection - but the sound placement on that track was great though - I was reading an article and the mixer said he threw the Waves Doubler on the sample to widen the stereo field - That simple tip helped out tremendously with my some of my own mixes
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People insult Hip Hop CLEARLY don't know that it takes education to do this, it takes math, you have to know what you are doing. I hate when people criticize Hip Hop not realizing that each sector of it requires art, from the production, to the rappers, to the videographers, etc.
you don’t need to know any of that shit though hahaha.. it requires an ear or a mind for music. Everything else is just a building block on top of natural ability (in any modern genre really...).
Math not so much.. this is sampling, not classical :P
@AnElectricVoidOffici How do you know that for sure? Why stereotype? I doubt you even know that a large majority of music today derives from blues and jazz, the 'Hip hop' of the early 20th century. Jazz musicians were among THE BEST. Their piano Melodies/complex chords, their revolutionary bass lines, of which inspired the base heavy alternative genre of Funk. So, if you look at it from a logically hypothetical aspect, there's just as much universal dedication to every instrumental division.
@AnElectricVoidOffici Actually historically speaking white people tried to separate themselves from the bass line because they didn't know how to manipulate the rhythm Thanks to Charles Mingus.You really need to learn about the history the music,there's much,much,much more to it than all you young folks think.And for the record hip hop is derived from jazz(Bebop).Electronica and techno Is derived from traditional African style of music known as Jujuka, aka juke joint (Dance music).
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cmill357 19 hours ago
Cmon Black people you know that this is not true -.-
faves8 1 day ago
He said he was listening to "Stronger" on the radio and the kicks irritated him. Daft Punk does not have a song called "Stronger." He was obviously talking about his own version of the song.
hellobrookb 2 days ago
a lame fl plugin. sigh people still want to talk about fl when there's people paying a lot more for those fl beats than yours. They are all just tools
Fro5tStep 3 days ago
He wasn't talking shit about the Daft Punk version.. it was his version on the radio.
StyleZ107 5 days ago 2
Ya'll who are talking shit about KANYE are BRAINWASHED by the Illuminati under Project Mainstream Brainwash aka Project Brainwash Mainstream... YE IS A LEGEND. The MEDIA is FOOLING YALL BIG TIME!!!!!! KANYE IS A FUCKIN LEGEND.. FROM TORONTO TO CHI CITY
BlakePlaya 6 days ago
Talking shit on daft punk in beginning, no just NO
TheEIPfan 1 week ago
you like fishsticks?
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flyaznpimp2000 1 week ago
kanye fucked the song up
chiipBaa 1 week ago 4
did he just talk shit about daft punk at the beginning?
steve1287 1 week ago 7
@steve1287
na.. he was talking about his own track.. he just wanted his own track to be mixed better.. you wouldn't understand unless you're a producer yourself.
larry89 7 hours ago
Timbaland ... Man. He knows his stuff! Wish I be all in his brain. Can you teach me wise man! It's funny. He's lettin Kanye no whats up. Love it the boss Jay is just like. Handle it. Ha ha that's cool
mcloven83 1 week ago
this was amazing, thanks so much for making this!!
HAZFRAME 1 week ago
does anyone know which headphones tim is wearing on the video? 2:08
PheenixHeaven 1 week ago
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ReclusiveArtz 2 weeks ago
great FUCKING touch from timbo .. its that thing he added that took this song to a whole new level =D
u gotta love it dude !!
fury1409 2 weeks ago
@plod78 So... what do you think about FruityLoops in terms of producing? FL seems to dish out good tracks as well like a MPC...
secuyoung 2 weeks ago
@secuyoung I use FL all the time. Alot of big producers are using it now as well. It's the new era of music production. But as you can see, some of these older cats on this post are stuck in their ways. They seem to think that there is something magical about their old, dusty ancient equipment. To answer your question, FL pretty much has an MPC function built into it.
plod78 2 weeks ago
808 Solid State!
Tubeuserthefirst 2 weeks ago
pretty sure thats a-trak wearing the clown suit at 2:12
TommyTenchUSA 2 weeks ago
ahaha !!!!!! fucking fagz music !!!!!!!!!
dilutinginertia 2 weeks ago
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JWillRap 2 weeks ago
I need help! Idk what to buy because idk what is better. The Akai APC or Akai MPC. Feedback is much appreciated
BlasianSensation68 3 weeks ago
@BlasianSensation68 The APC series are MIDI controllers and thus only functional when connected to a computer or other MIDI device. The MPC series are samplers, which works stand-alone OR in conjunction with other gear. How do you plan to use it? Do you have a DAW such as Cubase, Ableton, etc? An MPC is a great drum sampler, but you can accomplish the same thing with a MIDI controller and software. Check out Native Instrument's Maschine. Research before buying anything!
futilerecordings 2 weeks ago
@futilerecordings Thanks that helps alot. I'm just lookin for some type of MIDI controller or device that i can sample with and make beats with and use with FL Studio.
BlasianSensation68 2 weeks ago
@BlasianSensation68 Well FL Studio is a sampler (among other things). A MIDI controller is simply a device that you can plug in to a computer and use to control your software. You press a key/pad on your controller and FL will respond. A MIDI controller itself does not sample.
futilerecordings 2 weeks ago
@futilerecordings Oh and another question, i figured you might know the answer to this as well, what's the difference between a MIDI controller with pads and a keyboard MIDI controller? I'm new to all of this and i just wanna figure everything out
BlasianSensation68 2 weeks ago
@BlasianSensation68 It just depends how you like to work. Some people like to bang on drum pads, others prefer piano-style keys. Some controllers have both (check the Akai MPK series).
futilerecordings 2 weeks ago
@futilerecordings Thanks man, i really appreciate it
BlasianSensation68 2 weeks ago
Interesting t see kanye asking for help so to speak.
RGen3 3 weeks ago
fuck kanye
blaaaaaane 3 weeks ago
WHATS UP GUYS:-) DONT TELL ME THIS IS SPAM I KNOW...WATCH MY VIDEO "Producing a dope ass beat" YOU WILL LOVE IT...NEXT KANYE WEST FOR REAAL:-) THUMBS UP! make love not war:-)
RobertJakobMusic 3 weeks ago
A-trak in the building!
Simius01 3 weeks ago
so let me get this straight... kanye west was driving down the street and heard DAFT PUNK and thought he could make it better... this man's ego needs to be destroyed.
projectuniform 3 weeks ago
@projectuniform Bitch he did make it better
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@DaRocBeast Bitch just cause I put a moustache on the mona lisa doesn't make that any better. course, you probably don't even know what the mona lisa is, bitch.
projectuniform 3 weeks ago
@projectuniform Do I really need to know what the Mona Lisa is to tell you straight up that if you listen to both versions of Stronger, the original by Daft Punk and the sampled version by Kanye, that Ye's version isn't better? Daft Punk is cool but if you honestly think Kanye didn't improve the original sound and concept of the track then you must be going bonkers.
DaRocBeast 2 weeks ago
@DaRocBeast All kidding aside, you should really know what the Mona Lisa is. Kanye is like a little retarded boy colouring a picture on a computer, when Daft Punk built the computer.
projectuniform 2 weeks ago
@DaRocBeast depends what music you're into. Ask anyone into EDM and they'll tell you Daft any day.
byouno93 1 week ago
@projectuniform that song kinda sucked to begin with not the best of Daft Punk
iMDBeats 3 weeks ago
@projectuniform Kanye is everything that's wrong w/ music production. The sampler is the most powerful instrument ever created. You can take a 1 second sample of a sine wave tone and create an entire symphony with just that waveform... Yet Kanye (and others) take an entire 16 bar segment from another artist, layer some 808s over top and call it an original work. It's truly sad. There's plenty of room for creative sampling, but commercial hip hop doesn't seem to care for it.
futilerecordings 3 weeks ago
@futilerecordings Sampling? daft punk samples....sooooo.....
EEW851 2 weeks ago
@EEW851 Yes, but there's a difference. Kanye is essentially a "cover band". He takes entire songs written and performed by others, and puts new drums over them. Daft Punk uses samples, as does nearly every electronic artist... but I've never heard a Daft Punk song and thought "Wow! That's just a Bee Gee's song with some 808's over it!" Daft Punk CREATES music. Kanye REPACKAGES music for a different audience. The end result may sound great, I just don't give Kanye much credit for it.
futilerecordings 2 weeks ago
I would much prefer turning knobs and buttons than a mouse. Its a very tough job saving up for hardware unless you have hit records to help finance it all or that you are working very hard and making sacrifices to do it.
djultraful 3 weeks ago
Tim and Kayne they use hardware no vst can replace the sound and feel of real hardware and of course they can use vsti are you crazy. When you buy for example a moog vst synthesizer it does sound kinda like a Moog depending on your digi converters but i will say this software can not beat Hardware don't believe the marketing hype.
djultraful 3 weeks ago
who was the other dude on the keys in the cap? Danjahanz?
MrNytn2001 4 weeks ago
KANYES INTRODUCTION TO 808S TIMBS THAT DUDE.
clickclackitsover123 4 weeks ago
Hardware has no equal its in front of you and you get on with it. I can do more with a DX7s--QX7 and VS880 than half the producers in million dollar recording suites. Think I am joking check my track Starship enterprise at the end of the month. It all starts in the HUMAN MIND. Never forget that.
fender1000100 4 weeks ago
Tim + Kanye = Stonger......Dope record but Kanye's Ego -_-
Pre-Madonna!!
SiyaCirocBoyTV 4 weeks ago
@plod78 You are a fucking idiot. Who gives a fuck about MdL, when were talking about Timbaland and Kanye. Comparing them makes you look like an ignorant uneducated wannabe producer. Software is great, I agree, but hardware is far superior in sound quality. Software tries to emulate the sound of gear like the MPC, but ask ANY producer - it doesnt come close. Thats why real producers - Dr Luke, Timbaland, Benny Blanco, Redman, Pharrell, Red One, etc. ALL prefer hardware over VST's.
lovetrainorchestra 4 weeks ago
@lovetrainorchestra You are sounding really ignorant. Technology has advanced tremendously. The sound that is in your 5 year old MPC has already been reproduced and even upgraded in music recording software. Everything is digital now. If you want to limit yourself to pieces of equipment, then you are just putting yourself in a box. You'll never advance. You'll have to constantly keep buying more and more equipment to replace your out-of-date machines. You obviously don't know much about music.
plod78 4 weeks ago
@plod78 Kid, stop embarrassing yourself, just stop.
AkademicDesignLabs 2 weeks ago
@plod78 If you believe your digital third-grade squeeaky clean toy sounds will EVER match, copy or reproduce the rawness of an old record put through an MPC, you're the one who knows jackshit about music. Just a fact, son.
AkademicDesignLabs 2 weeks ago
@AkademicDesignLabs Let me educate your real quick, son. Do you even understand what makes it possible for an MPC to produce sound? It's nothing more than a computer chip. That's right, a COMPUTER CHIP. That's what makes the equipment make sound. Now think about it for a minute, you doofus. You're basically saying that today's topnotch computers can't even compare to a computer chip that came out 10 years ago. That's like saying a cd can't compare to a cassette . Now go slap yourself, genius.
plod78 2 weeks ago
@plod78 Educate yourself first, fucking idiot. The point is not whether it's a computer chip or an analog device, DUMBFUCK, the point is the dressing and processing of the sound that comes out. That's why serious producers deal with MPC's and hardware filters, to get the rawness and grime of a hardware-filtered sound. Stick to toy beats and be quiet, pathetic lamer, you know nothing about music production.
AkademicDesignLabs 2 weeks ago
@AkademicDesignLabs Hahaha you're a complete dumbass if you honestly think that there is some magical "rawness" that comes out of hardware. You're one of those idiots that never bothered to keep up to date with new and improved technology. And then you try to insult digital music production when all of your favorite producer's would sound like garbage if it wasn't for the mixing engineers who use nothing but software to edit the sounds. You must be like 45 years old. LMAO. Fuck outta here.
plod78 1 week ago
@plod78 @AkademicDesignLabs well... both you guys are at least partially right. Hardware generally creates harmonics based on the frequencies of the input. The harmonics created through say, a tube, can give a pleasing warmth because most of the new harmonics are in octaves. Sure, crazy things can be synthesized by software (Native Instruments eherm) but a lot of great character can be given by hardware.
byouno93 1 week ago
@byouno93 I know what you're talking about but I also have software that creates the same harmonics. Like I said, there isn't anything that a piece of hardware can do that music software can't. You just have to learn what's out there and learn how to use it. There are tons of filters and plugins out there. Thanks for your feedback, though.
plod78 1 week ago
@plod78 yeah I know, I use a lot of exciters and they're pretty quality now days.
byouno93 1 week ago
@plod78 You're the dumbass with no ear if you can't hear the difference between a hardware-filtered vynil sample and a digitally-EQ'd one. Fucking lame. I'm 24 and have produced since 15, I work at a local studio, don't worry about me, kiddo. Worry about not embarrassing yourself anymore with every post you make.
AkademicDesignLabs 1 week ago
@AkademicDesignLabs The problem with you, kid, is that you have no idea what's out there these days. You're stuck in a mindset that you MUST use hardware to get the sound you want. That's completely false. You've just never been exposed to the right types of filters and plugins (if you've even ever tried to use them.) Trust me kid, I can make any beat sound like it came from your 10 year old piece of equipment. Everything from the "crackling" sound of vinyl to the tube harmonics.
plod78 1 week ago
@plod78 And I'll be able to tell straight away that your shit is digitally-filtered. And that's it, that's the difference between a true music lover and a cheap hot-head producer. Understood? And let me laugh a little at "you have no idea what's out there". It's cool sonny...stick to FL.
AkademicDesignLabs 1 week ago
@AkademicDesignLabs Actually, with today's computing it's nigh on impossible to tell the difference between certain minimum phase digital EQ's and real analog. That's not coming from me either; it's straight out of Bob Katz's book on mastering.
byouno93 1 week ago
@AkademicDesignLabs You're the one with no idea, all those big ass studios with tons of hardware equipment, you'd be surprised to know most of the producers in those studios are now using plugins. Sounds you think are hardware on a track, are really just plugins ;)
1wibble2 1 week ago
@1wibble2 Kid, I work in studios, I nearly live in them. Don't worry. I know exactly what I'm talking about, and better believe I can tell the difference between a lame FL plugin and a rich, hardware-filtered sample.
AkademicDesignLabs 1 week ago
@AkademicDesignLabs You're talking to a 32 year old with 15 years in the business, and there are more plugins in existence than the ones that come with fruity loops. With the best out there, you'd fail a blind test, for sure. I'm certain some of your favourite tracks out there that you think were done entirely with hardware have actually used a ton of plugins.
1wibble2 1 week ago
KANYE SUCKS!
jjanuary 1 month ago
Kanye trying to tell Timberland how to make a beat.Fuck out of here
Elcaminotodeath 1 month ago
That's crazy man.. Make a song then fast forward shit is in everyone's head repeating what you had in your head before all that even happened... Mindfucking and incredible
OMAR1992ish 1 month ago
@OMAR1992ish so is what you just posted
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Davidbeats123 1 month ago
@Davidbeats123 were here for kanye, not you
Derek777888 1 month ago
A hella good argument goin on here. All I can say is whatever you have master it, then conquer something else. There is so much to learn and to keep evolving is key. Remember that before These two got to where theyre at now, they were in the same position as others. Respect to those keeping it true and keep doin your damn thing.
KAIZEN580 1 month ago
that beat made a shit load of difference!!!
dannywalters 1 month ago
Thats a hot beat
44godson 1 month ago
i love making beats but the mix and mastering is so frustrating !!
MusicLoverRecords 1 month ago 37
@MusicLoverRecords agree that is why i go outside smoke a joint or two and then go back to work
slotra187 1 month ago
@MusicLoverRecords just make sure it sounds clear you know when something sounds good or not. just make it sound good. thats all you need in the industry make things sound good now mastering is a little end step to give little EQ in few parts and set decibels and frequency right with compress ect. to make the track perfect 100%
zirokiller00 1 month ago
@zirokiller00 yeh... its all about the mix...
bootr0s 1 month ago
Dope!
Demitrean 1 month ago
@SaintyDesigns yes, the sample is from daft punk but all these daft buggers can do is rip off other peoples music and use sampled drum sounds. I would like to see them record real drums and then produce the sound. But we all that they would fail bad. that is where the art is,
orezmusic 1 month ago
@orezmusic they don't just used sampled sounds, they tweak, EQ...etc to get the sound they want. They use so many different sounds from choirs, to tabla's it'd be impossible to physically record every single sound they've used to make their songs. An either way, how far do you go, I would like to see a rock band Build thier own drum kit to achieve the sound they want and then record it!! a recorded drum is the same as a sampled one!
mustachiosch 1 month ago
These dudes are multi-platinum producers and they don't seem to know how to use proper software to create the sound they are looking for. They expect those expensive keyboards to already have the sound they want and all they gotta do is press a button. Someone show these dudes how to use things such as EQ's and compression. It's easy as hell to do in any DAW program. Fuck all that expensive equipment.
plod78 1 month ago
@plod78. I disagree. If you can get a clean, crisp, clear sample of the sound you are looking for you only have to tweak/EQ it slightly to get what you're after. This will sound 10,000,000 times better than a lazy producer who doesn't bother finding the correct sound and just EQ's the shit out of the first sample he finds!!! This is what seperates Proffessional $1,000,000 production from low quality, lazy ass, bedroom production!!!!!!
mustachiosch 1 month ago
@mustachiosch It's not being lazy. It's called having knowledge of up-to-date technology. Some people are just stuck in the past. Old-ass producers who are ignorant when it comes to today's technology. If you know how to properly EQ and master a track, then it will sound just as clean and crisp as anything else. You're probably one of those dudes that goes out and spends thousands of bucks for an MPC, not knowing that most production software is capable of the same functions and more.
plod78 1 month ago
@plod78 What the fuck are you talking about? You think Timbaland and Kanye don't know how to use music software? Timbaland's engineer is Jimmy Douglas. He's won 4 Grammys. He has also designed VSTs and software. EQ'ing and mastering a track has nothing to do with undertones and low-pass, which is what Kanye's dealing with in this video. By the way, there is no music production software even close to an MPC. I've used BOTH for decades. It's not our fault you're too broke to buy an MPC.
BlackCloverRecords 1 month ago 52
@BlackCloverRecords i have ableton and i'n not a big serious producer, but i like the mpc flavor on beats and i was thinking of buying one, which would you recommend, either at guitar center or sam asssh?
BeatsOutDBricks 1 month ago
@BlackCloverRecords good on u mate some people just think its easy&they dont really have a clue,like u im a producerdj/mainly/ with software&hardware,i never knew that jimmy douglas worked with them& had won 4grammy`s though,thanks for that imfo,i would never of known,by the way like u said where would we be without the `MPC`s,i dont know where id be without my pads,i like maschine.have you actually published any of your tunes?jay
jay77stewart 1 month ago
@BlackCloverRecords Well Im not sayin that your opition on MPC > PC DAW+VSTs is wrong, but give me one reason why should be that compact processing unit within MPC with embedded softs somehow better in sound processing than todays desktops. Are there any better AD/DA than on expensive soundcards? Im a student of informatics, Ive never tried MPC on my own, but so far I think that MPC greatness is one big myth. But if you have any valid technical arguments, please tell em.
EstethProduction 1 month ago
@EstethProduction work rate sounds good on an mpc.
pinbac92 1 month ago
@EstethProduction you never used a mpc and cant understand the myth behind the sound?
It fucking knocks, son. its something to with with POOR conversion. also the bitrate is typically lower than a pc.
I have used both pc and mpc, my pc will never get drums knocking like a mpc would. simple/.
peepingtomthumb 1 month ago
@BlackCloverRecords would you recommend immediately buying an mpc for entry level producers like myself? Im not sure if i should spend money down the synth route or the drum machine route.
MyDormantSoul 1 month ago
@MyDormantSoul You don't really need to invest lots of money on hardware. Hardware will only limit you. The best way to go is to use music production SOFTWARE and VST's.. You'll be amazed how much more you can do with it and you will always be able to upgrade your sound kits and modify them. One perfect example is a young producer named MdL. He now works with some of the most popular recording artists out right now. He sold most of his hardware and only uses VST's now. It's the computer age, bro
plod78 4 weeks ago
@plod78 Thanks bud, I appreciate the frank response. Any recommendations for unique drum sound tech?
MyDormantSoul 4 weeks ago
@BlackCloverRecords Another ignorant ass bitch. Just shut your mouth son. You sound real stupid right now. And no, Timbaland's 40 year old ass doesn't know anything about music software. He's stuck in the past. That's why he has an engineer to do all that for him. A real producer knows how to create the sound he wants without going crazy trying to find it from somebody else. By the way, I'm far from broke.
plod78 4 weeks ago
@BlackCloverRecords Well said.. lol
FinalPlotProductions 3 weeks ago
@BlackCloverRecords Ha! Clueless. The MPC samplers are great, no doubt. But there's nothing special or magic about it. FL or Ableton paired with a pad controller will give you the SAME results. Admittedly, the converters on the AKAI are top notch, and can add some mojo to your audio just through the conversion. But to say there's no software even close to the MPC shows that you're an ignorant fool. Name ONE feature the MPC has that I can't do with software. NAME ONE!
futilerecordings 3 weeks ago
@BlackCloverRecords Oh and "EQing has nothing to do with low-pass"??? WTF, are you a moron? An EQ and a low-pass are both filters. So get off your "I been blah blah for decades" soapbox.
futilerecordings 3 weeks ago
@BlackCloverRecords shows how much you know, the MPC is a drum machine, an overated one at that. Its not software :L
LindenGarcia1896 2 weeks ago
@LindenGarcia1896 How did Timbo get the choir sound? and what program do I need to get to do that as well... I use FL9 producers edition
secuyoung 2 weeks ago
@secuyoung the choir sound will have either been a VST plugin, or a sound from the keyboard he was using, its not preloaded into the software all ready. google best choir vst and youn should find some good ones, dont know of any off by hand because I dont really use them.
LindenGarcia1896 2 weeks ago
.... I also forgot to mention that the clean, crisp sound is actually achieved after the track has been sent to the mastering engineer who is in charge of making sure everything sounds right. And how do you think they do it? That's right, they PROPERLY "EQ the shit out of the track".
plod78 1 month ago
@plod78 OH WOW DUDE! I'm really desperate to hear the tunes you've made which are sooo much better than Kanye and Timbaland, when are you going to upload this amazing music you've made with your free EQ plugins and copy of fruityloops lol
spector969 1 month ago
@plod78 Do you honestly believe you can match the quality of a $100k mixing table? The day someone can show me how to do that ill give up making music. Your an idiot.
PhrazeMuzik 1 month ago
@PhrazeMuzik I say yes! Maybe back then one couldn't, but these days, you can. You still need to put in like $30gs though to buy a good front end and back end. That's all!
experiment0003 1 month ago
@experiment0003 $30k is still a professional figure wouldn't you agree. How many enthusiasts are going to spend that on a home studio? You can make a great quality song by spending under $5k but to get that kind of quality you still have to fork out big money.
PhrazeMuzik 1 month ago
@PhrazeMuzik the truth is you can't get far with $5k... you'll make something decent, but compared to the big league, it's almost impossible (almost!).
But nowadays, with as little as $30k, you can really put out something that is close to, if not better than, the real thing.
experiment0003 1 month ago
2:39...H.A.M
FLATFEET3 1 month ago
This is why Kanye gets mad at every award show because he really put his all in his music
iliveRoDREAMS 1 month ago 3
Mixed 11 times and still sounds like ass
mrpumpum2010 1 month ago
magnus choir
1057music 1 month ago
a track
badrav3 1 month ago
the choir tim plays sounds like the one kanye uses in the end of ham
LoEyBtrick 1 month ago
4:29 Shut that shit off! The master is speaking!
SoQlose 1 month ago
Tim was dropping some knowledge here about drums - You can't compress something that aint there - your probably better off finding a new drum in the long run then trying to throw alot on to something that aint giving you that character your looking for
ShottyGunzBeatz 1 month ago
@ShottyGunzBeatz yea it seems kanye was thinking more about placement of instruments, and tim was trying to bring up the point that if he makes the sounds better, kanye will like any beat.
energeez 1 month ago
@energeez Naw I don't think that was the case - Kanye knew what he was looking for he just didn't have it in his arsenal - Tim has a leg up on most producers because of his extensive sound collection - but the sound placement on that track was great though - I was reading an article and the mixer said he threw the Waves Doubler on the sample to widen the stereo field - That simple tip helped out tremendously with my some of my own mixes
ShottyGunzBeatz 1 month ago
Asr-10 is classic....20 yrs old.
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boxingbobo 1 month ago
at 4:00 he tried to show kanye another kick he might like, kanye said fuck outta here im going with the one i put lol
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it5ryan5iu 1 month ago
Anyone else feel like if just got Daft Punk they would've KILLED IT?
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@Crackers114454 that woulda been too much. they killed it when he performed live with them at the grammy's
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Mictizzlemusicworld 1 month ago
People insult Hip Hop CLEARLY don't know that it takes education to do this, it takes math, you have to know what you are doing. I hate when people criticize Hip Hop not realizing that each sector of it requires art, from the production, to the rappers, to the videographers, etc.
CALICOTV301 1 month ago
@CALICOTV301 same with a lot of genres, i just learn to put up with ignorance
mrstevemarr 1 month ago
@CALICOTV301 I agree.. kind of..
you don’t need to know any of that shit though hahaha.. it requires an ear or a mind for music. Everything else is just a building block on top of natural ability (in any modern genre really...).
Math not so much.. this is sampling, not classical :P
jonescomplete 1 month ago
KANYE WEST IS ONE OF THE MASTERS OF MUSIC
OneDreamify 2 months ago
Kanye West for me is the best rap/hip hop producer there is today. Just listen to All Of Lights feat. Rhianna from start to finish.
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SouthernRappinJoe 2 months ago
the beginning threw me off! lol
19iLoveMusic95 2 months ago
Wow,I got so much respect for Timbaland.It's crazy to see even a producing legend like Kanye still have to go to him for some knowledge :)
ACM9407 2 months ago
UGGHHH i wanna be able to do this when i grow uppppp
TootlesnPonder 2 months ago
@TootlesnPonder the best start early
mrstevemarr 2 months ago
@mrstevemarr yeah i know haha. i started sophomore year in high school. we'll see hahaa
TootlesnPonder 2 months ago
Damn i never seen this before... Timbaland and Kanye 2 of the greatest of all times
GunShineState123 2 months ago
i once my self spent hours finding the right kick for my beat.. lol ahahah
PlushBeats 2 months ago
I used to make beats and yes, if you have that passion, you will look for that kick, snare, etc until you lose your mind! Mixing is even worse
P715R 2 months ago 41
Fuck!!!!! Does Anybody know's a Vst that can produce that same choir sound that Tim was playing?
KiDKeYz1000 2 months ago 28
@KiDKeYz1000 I know right....That was too sick!!! I need that too lol
trapped12 2 months ago
@KiDKeYz1000 possibly a rompler like nexus. just do a bit or googleing for vsts associated with orchestra music
ElectrikBear 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 thats a sample.. not an vst
AGbeatzz 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 He probably mics up real choirs
Kingjames313 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 omnisphere
monchandclaxbach 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 east west actually sounds better than the one he was using
thekid22585 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 Get a F***ing Roland V-synth GT!!!
Quadraticfunction 1 month ago
@Quadraticfunction Sure bro, just send me the $3500....
KiDKeYz1000 1 month ago 2
@KiDKeYz1000 i know a soundfont thats similar to what you might be looking for...
KamKomissioner 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 nexus
shing02 1 month ago
@KiDKeYz1000 magnus choir
PartyBoyDJ 1 month ago
timbaland made this track hot !
swayromero 2 months ago
i had to look up what an 808 was... I'm too white. :(
MrAbedogg 2 months ago
not being racist but black people care bout the drums kicks and the beat white people care about the melody and the bass line haha lol
AnElectricVoidOffici 2 months ago
@AnElectricVoidOffici How do you know that for sure? Why stereotype? I doubt you even know that a large majority of music today derives from blues and jazz, the 'Hip hop' of the early 20th century. Jazz musicians were among THE BEST. Their piano Melodies/complex chords, their revolutionary bass lines, of which inspired the base heavy alternative genre of Funk. So, if you look at it from a logically hypothetical aspect, there's just as much universal dedication to every instrumental division.
InFluentmusic 2 months ago
@AnElectricVoidOffici Actually historically speaking white people tried to separate themselves from the bass line because they didn't know how to manipulate the rhythm Thanks to Charles Mingus.You really need to learn about the history the music,there's much,much,much more to it than all you young folks think.And for the record hip hop is derived from jazz(Bebop).Electronica and techno Is derived from traditional African style of music known as Jujuka, aka juke joint (Dance music).
bigman72511 2 months ago
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It would be funny as fuck to see 1 of these play a real drum kit. But we won't because they can't. LOL
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