The person in the yellow shirt is on the right path. Like I said in part two, what's good for you is good you and what good for me is good for me ... Religious shouldn't be forced on you in any way. The ministers were not welcome and one could see that and in my opinion they should have left. It was a form of entertainment
What is said is the guy in the yellow polo claims to have "tested" the bible and found it to be true with "his heart". Yet when he talks about others not knowing god he says "maybe god has not spoken to you", as if NOW it is an objective claim that god exists.....because he "found in his heart" that god was real. In several hundred years from now I can only hope insane people will no longer roam the college campus.
i enjoyed your videos and especially the last one here he stood up spoke his peace and just walked away he wasnt hostile or rude he didnt claim that his religion was TRUE only true to HIM.....and hey even though i disaggre with him on that matter it doesnt matter.....and ya know what as for the nut jobs.....well....if hell exists.....they need to spend a week or so down there to see what there condeaming these people to and reevaluate there threat of hell so that well im not insulted anymore lol
Truth is a direction, not a fixed point on some map. inevitably people will find their own truths. My concern is simply to make sure that no ones version of truth steps on the right of others to persue the finding of their truth. Personally, I believe their is some kind of creative force in the shadows of our universe. I hold no allegiance to some god though and I feel the sacred thing is the ability of a human being to use it's own mind to decide it's own truths. That's worth dying for.
I'm not impresses by the young christian guy. The bible also says that Jesus died for the sins of humanity and when he died it would bring peace all through out the world. When has there ever been peace in the world? Christians are waiting for there jesus to fly down and save there souls, and its sad because if you actually do read the bible you will see how rediculous the stories are and how "god" contradicts himself time and time again. It's just fucking insanity!!!!
An intelligent person knows that they are incapable of drawing a conclusion regarding religion. To boldly define yourself as a theist or an atheist is to believe without definitive proof; regardless of which path you've chosen. If it were proven law, such as gravity, the truth about gods would just be common knowledge. But there is no way to know for sure, and making such a claim is arrogant. But I suppose claiming ignorance is too unsettling for most humans, who need something to grasp.
@omnipotentobserver To boldly define oneself as an atheist is not believing something without definite proof. All atheism is saying is that the "evidence" for the existance of a deity is not good enough and therefore the only rational thing to do is to reject the claim. You're talking about gnosticism. They're not mutually exclusive.
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"True to me" is a dumb excuse. Either it's true or it's not, it's not a matter of personal choice if you care whether your beliefs are actually true or not.
the younger guy was a true Christian. He used his heart to guide him in a world that is full of those who only believe in Christ because their afraid or wana justify their hate.
So Christians don't die in car crashes? I enjoyed your other two vids, and I have the same conclusion... The only "conclusion" you're suggesting is that perhaps there is a God and He saved this guy. My conclusion is that there is no God and random people die every day from all kinds of accidents and diseases regardless of their faith. This, is a fact. I don't see how you can claim everything else that was said on the day was crazy, and yet still give any credit to this guy's claim.
I think that younger Christian is a complete retard. I am not the least bit impressed by his different method for bullshit spreading.
Also consider that if you actually do believe the insane shit of religion then you should logically be compelled to save every single person you can from eternal torture.
Either something is true or it isn't. The younger guy was full of shit.
I'm glad that in the end of the videos there was a message of tolerance towards religion. Hateful Christians do not mean Christianity is bad, and I find Atheists can be frustratingly dogmatic towards me as a person of faith myself. Never have I condoned the use of religion of any persuasion as viable excuse for hate, intolerance, discrimination, or brainwashing.
Together and United under Atheism right? The problem is not everyone who wants everyone to get along is Atheistic. It's not that strange that a Christian would say something smart. Preachy Atheists preaching about evil preachy Christians.
It was very wrong for that girl to run her hand down his back in that manner; at 1:02 on the clock. If he did that to her, she'd sprint to the nearest police station. What a wonderful intelligent statement from that much younger Christian; whatever you may think of his theology, it was all achieved without confrontation or hate, and the other guy could learn a lot from him. JUST A THOUGHT: Were they a double act? Good Saint, Bad Saint?
Actually the most intelligent thing said that day was right after the preacher said "Women are not equal to men," one of the men near the camera person said "on a college campus!" THAT was the most intelligent thing uttered that day.
I knew some catholics once, who after reading the Bible didn't stay catholic. The ideal of telling an ordinary man (your priest) your sins,,and calling him father. Where in the Bible does it tell us to do this?
the perfect religion would be a religion that admits its own mistakes, have common sense, brings peace, accept modernized values, bring people together, accept people for who they are, abolish hatred, have a positive message that people will take by heart, and other shit that i'm not smart enough to come up with to make the ultimate religion. chirstianity has good philosophy in it but they did a lot more harm than good throughout history imo.
@NeverForgetRachel How odd... Of all the things to choose for yourself, you had to pick the most absurd of them all.. Not counting cults, of course. Oh well, atleast mass suicide isn't part of your books.
I did read through a lot of the bible and prayed many times seeking "the truth" I have to confess here and now that I believe the christian religion, Islam, and judaism to be total and utter BS!
I think the biggest lesson that the preacher could take away from that encounter should be the differences in how he was accepted verses the way the other person was accepted. Everyone stopped and listened to the young man tell his story and make his points. Everyone told the preacher to shut up and heckled him constantly. If he were to see this footage of himself now, I would hope that he would see how he united a campus AGAINST his religion and consider changing tactics.
man it seems like that cat just got the floor because even in that outfit he's the most thugged out lookin kid there, i'd be telling him that Jesus is not real just like that other guy.
Good video, you have to be principled, its like politics, we as a nation acted as sheep, did not do our research and put people in office that should not have been. We have to vote on principles, not party. I'm kind of an paleoconservative, but I differ on many other things that supports, such as religion.
what you are trying to find is just information, you have the potential yourself to be happy, its all a state of mind, and if this helps you reach a good state of mind then go for it...but to be honest there are much better and deeper books you could read, that will give you more valuable information.
I dont buy into the "true for me" idea. There is one reality that exists regardless of your opinion. This reality does not include a god. This conclusion can be drawn from the logical premise of a lack of evidence. I could say "the 4th moon of jupiter caused your sex life" and challenge you to disprove it, but you aren't logically called upon to do so.
...People like this ruin my day. Their minds are soooooo limited and frail to shards of reality. They literally cannot grasp anything going on in the real world.
seriously, you have a good thought process and have a good non biased view. i looked at the religion i was born into and looked into a few others and came to my own conclusion and i don't believe there is a god. i hate people who preach like the 2 born agains were. i want intelligent debate. have a good one
I have made my own conclusion and ended up believing in many gods. I am pagan. And damn proud to be one. We dont hate on anyone. And we dont go out and try to cram our believes down ppls throats. I found these vids you made to be fun to watch. Thanx for posting them.
kudos to you, my beliefs differ but great to see you found something to believe in that makes more sense than christianity. not to mention all the pagans i have met were pretty level minded and well spoken. have a good one.
read bible and go kill whoever believe in other gods.... yes bible is fukin awesome lets kill somebody who don't like my god. Or lets make sacrifice from dog or cat or whatever will be near even your sister or brother because thats written in bible. Read that crap and change the world even if it will mean christian terrorism, FIGHT FOR GOD and we will back to dark ages. Read and be brainwashed its so awesome to be dumb and dont know how world works. amen
The christians killed off the pagans so I really have to agree with your comment. Im pagan and you are so right about the dark ages cause thats what they did.
Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and spiritual; and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity. -- Albert Einstein If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism
Tell you what, if you want to think Satan is out to kill you, if you want to think praying is going to stop Satan from killing you, I'm not gonna stop you believing that. I wouldn't call it "the most intelligent thing said" either but hey who am I to judge?
Where I draw the line is when your "faith" starts imposing itself on the civil rights of others. Take your interfering faith out of my government and we'll have no issues.
Thank you for doing this, for it says all that I have wanted to about these acts since the same people came to Murray State University. This is a great statement and challenge to anyone on either side of the religious line.
fictional reality Created Character of the ultimate role playing Game that would mean god is not a god and the so called christ is and was just a fictional reality Created Character and when people lived and died and wake up out of the game they will realize what they lived and died 4 was nonthing at all there was no point of following or have a belief of any kind it was 4 nonthing what-if? we are in a reality game what would be the point of even beleaveing in a god or christ it was all4Nonthing
That was interesting. that 'preacher' was nuts. i dont know if i should call my self a christian or an agnostic. I really appreciate what that guy had to say on the behalf of the normal christians out there.
What's intelligent about that sanctimonious, American emotional movie style presented oration?
What is true to me, true to you? Something either has to be true or not. Now as for opinion and subjective experiences, yes, sure, thank you sir, I'll make sure I'll experience them and make up my mind.
Emotional pleading IS NOT a proper arguement. Sorry.
What disgusts me is the children born into religion and are indoctrinated by adults to believe nothing other than that religion. They had no choice. They had no way to be openminded. Children are very impressionable, and thier abillity to reason was taken away by their own parents. Early childhood development is the most crucial period in a humans life. They learn the basics behind reality. Their parents knew this and exploited it, in order to force religion onto the innocent and impressionable.
Hey all of you who don't believe in God and the bible. Take the time to listen to that young man in the yellow or any Christian. He's telling the truth; God do exist and those of you who don't believe, you're decieved. Jesus went to the cross and was raised from the dead so you can escape condemnation and have eternal life. If you want the truth then repent of your sins and turn to Christ so he can fill you with his love. Christ or condemnation..Your choice... ROCK ON My Christian brothers!!
in case u havent noticed this is a trilogy of videos mocking christianity . most of the ppl watching this r atheists an ur pathetic attempt at converting them is all in vain , cuz unlike u they have the ability to think an live for themselves, theyr the free thinkers who move the world to a bttr tommorrow.
this is so useless.....really i mean why to provea point about something that doesnt surpass the satge of an hypothesis, just babbling and babling on each side each side trying to prove taht they have valid motives argumentes and reason......and for what? christians still preach you still dont believe i still dont believe, god is a decent amusement thats all, christian radical as hell can prove how convinced they are. and some atheist snobs can prove how rationally constructed they are.
The book of the flying spagetti monster is great and I now know the touch of his noodly appendage and await heaven of beer volcanos and stripper factories. R-AMEN!
Thanks for sharing the video... If that gets Christians to take the first step towards inspecting their own bible then it was worth putting on youtube.
He is the only true Christian on the video. People don't understand that its not about pointing the finger at other people's sin, but about finding a better way to live your own life.
Its closed minded to not accept other people have other opinions, im not a christian and Im ok with other people being christians. It does not effect me
I like what this person had to say about his own beliefs, and I like what you had to say about your beliefs. One thing I'm trying to do right now is find out about others' beliefs about who will be the best U.S. President and U.S. VP by asking questions of both sides. I haven't gotten very many responses yet, but at least I'm trying to get to the heart of the issues.
I do not think he looked at all sides equally. If god saved him from being killed that day god is also the one who put him in danger in the first place. People need to open there eyes and truly look at all sides.
And that would be the most intelligent said all day? By someone who believes in magic? And supports blind faith in things that cannot be proved? "Ask yourself : Is this true within myself" What is that supposed to mean? Thing can not not "true in your heart" They are either true or are not true. You might be a bit less atheistic than you think....
That may have been the *nicest* thing said all day, but if it was a far cry from intelligent. He didn't come to his conclusion by reading or investigating the bible; he was brainwashed as a child and is still relying on superstition rather than thinking rationally. The outcome of his accident would have been the same whether his mama prayed or not. "Nice" Christians propagate the same nonsense as the "mean" ones.
@jonsonbrown I think brainwashed is a term that is abused so much. this christian actually spoke from HIS own point of view. if he was brainwashed he would have been doing EXACTLY the same thing the guy with the small bag would have done( judging people etc).don't use that term so lightly.
@jonsonbrown I myself am( and still) a christian and I hold evolution to be true because I ACTUALLY looked into it. I grew up with a FEW of the sam old( but most VERRRYY different) tactics in a chritian community. in the end I mad my OWN conclusions on the Bible and have begun to understand OTHER religions (hindu, buddhists,etc) than most people would and I even enjoy Biology. so don't use brainwashed lightly. if that were the case I would have been like the weird preacher guy
@jonsonbrown He's a nice guy, earnest, superstitious and credulous. Not to be rude, but his mom was probably getting "messages" from god like that all the time.
Actually the outcome would have been dependent on how good the doctors were. But I agree, praying does absolutely nothing to fix anything, otherwise why would we still have AIDS and Cancer?
i think you need to make a video highlighting the fallacous nature of creationism. Thunderfoot does it well enough but trying to explain it without scaring them away is how you pursuade.... Anyone know what class war is? : D
Religious civility: Being comfortable enough with own beliefs, to permit others their own. I have always said to Christians, believe as you will, but don't use your fear tactics on me, or I will strike back... and so here I am.
so if joshes mom hadn't prayed for him "god" couldn't have been bothered to save him? and even if the crap he was spoutin during his story was true, why don't he try giving some credit to his mom since if it wasn't for her praying "god" wouldn't have even bothered. that's what i hate about christians always happy to thank "god" for everything but never the person who really deserves it.
I've always wondered how they automatically think that it is the god in the bible who granted their prayer. It could just as easily have been Shiva. It does not in any way prove the bible is true if you believe a deity saved your life or whatever. ;)
I have a huge amount of respect for that man. Those were the wisest words I have EVER heard spoken by a Christian. It's not what you end up believing, it's how you end up believing it. That is the process that EVERYONE that has an ounce of respect for their religion or beliefs should go through. Questioning and reasoning is what makes us human. We are intelligent creatures and should start acting as such.
The support that they gave him AFTER hearing that he agrees with that idiot just proves that they are genuinely willing to listen to both sides of the story as long as you aren't being a jackass about it. This is why I can't wait to go to college. It must be great to be surrounded by so many intellectuals who can think for themselves. It sounds like such a wonderful environment. I only have a few years to go. :D
As for this guys speech...AMEN! That's from a proud non Christian.
Bandaids4ever; "they are genuinely willing to listen [...] I can't wait to go to college."
Um, don't have your hopes up too high on that, in my university I could only really discuss things over with like 5% of the population, or less. The rest wasn't interested in thinking things over except when it was for a grade.
Waita destroy What little hope I had left for humanity, MrFacet! :D
Ah well. It'll still be a wonderful opportunity to learn new things and grow as a person. If nothing else I'll come out wiser. I don't take back my "can't wait to go to college" statement I made earlier.
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yep, check it out for yourselves. the only book w/ 100% accuracy in prophecy. and dont trust your heart. has your heart ever been wrong? Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Tyre still exists, Jesus said it would be destroyed long ago. Fail. Jesus said he would come back before all the people from the generation then on earth were dead. Failed. God said that Iseral would be a "great nation". Failed.
how is this prophecy unfulfilled? Ge 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. Ge 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city,and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. what's this got to do w/ unfulfilled prophecy? i think you're just picking verses out the air to seem smart
God said that Cain would never settle or raise anything. He does, in fact he builds a city. I meant heb 10:37, which is failed so that one was my bad. But notice that even if you were right about those three, which you aren't there are still many, many examples of false prophecy in the bible.
That you claim that we have only ten percent implies that you have the other 90, or a source for that 90% you also claim that there is truth that there is a finite amout of it. This is intelectually dishonest and an invalid argument. Please stop making yourself look like an idiot.
What that guy said was really cool...and I have to commend Brother Micah for rarely interrupting and letting the guy speak. I agree with the points I think you're trying to make in this video.
Totally agree 5:05... i think that if u get pushed into a religion its Bullshit! thats wat happened in Norway and Poland hundreds of years ago! Personally ive Apostasized (behemoth and dimmu borgir RULES)... if u see him again ask him... "What do you think about The Apostasy? (And/Or) What do you think about what happened to poland and norway?"
Evangelists like the first two psychos needs to be stopped. Evangelisation is an ideaology for people who claim to have read and understand the Bible, who haven't actually read or understand the Bible in any way. If they had read it they would know that Yeshua the son of God (Don't know who this Jesus guy is, probably Gods landscaper)condemned evangelisation and organised religion (not organised faith, just the Church).
That was a great and very thoughtful conclusion, you'd make a great documentary-maker ala Michael Moore/Morgan Spurlock. That student's testimony was a world away from the hate-filled bile that was spewing from that other man. It's re-assuring to know that there are other religious people who are sensible enough to counteract the zealots.
if people can just be open-minded, they can find answers to just about any question.
it will also help people understand each other's beliefs, so that we can work towards tolerance.
I quoted you in a blog post this evening, that was seriously a very moving close to the video. So profound, true and just all-around great advice for everyone!
i gotta hand to josh for saying what he said...There aren't a whole lot of people who would have had the balls or the knowledge to give a speech like that. oh yea and fuck brother micah
His speech was nothing but bs. He came to believe in the bible because of a story that makes little sense. If he was in a near fatal accident as he said he was the hospital would have called his mother and informed him before he could. Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. If anecdotal evidence is proof of the validity of one's faith, then all religion would have to be right since most of them claim to have personal anecdotal evidence.
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Your way of showing skepticism towards is statments carries a falacy wich is the assumption that he aluding to any evidence for god, he's not. He states that god is real and there is a possibility that evidence for god may be discovered in the future or even that god himself decides to end this vicious and damaging fight by personaly spanking the intolerance out of our asses personally I'm skeptic but I am often wrong
i liked the speech, however, for him to think that god chose to save him, implying god HAS the power to intevene and save people, do you not think he would be doing so on a more regular basis? what about all the starving kids in the world? what about all the deadly diseases that kill infants, come on man, think about it.
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saying that god doesn't exist is false and is evidence of self delusion, you don't actually say it but your last statment gives a good clue of what you belief is. Many believers are deeply by ofended by this and rightly so, it is the preferred argument of atheists with the last words often being "...and proves that there is no god" people of faith know this too well. This is abuse, reduces the chances of harmony among us and strengthens faith.
utter non sequitor. you have no sense of logic. that is why jesus turning wine into water, coming back from the dead, and walking on water makes sense to you. Im not the one with the irrational belief. YOU are. I am not the delusional one. YOU are.
Hey guys... this is my first time commenting on a video, and i wrote a long ass comment. Didn't know you have a 500 char limit, so i broke it up into pieces. its all right beneath this post... lemme know what you think
why is it, though, that people swing completely away from spirituality and into atheism simply because SOME religious people are crazy/irrational/haters. I was raised catholic, and have since decided that i dont believe in their dogma and heirarchy/control/political structure. I dont like their lack of spiritual growth-- in fact they restrict, rather than permit, growth. However, I have not become an atheist, I've just decided that God may
be the creative energy that forms what is manifested in this universe, not some fickle guy up in the sky who cant decide whether he loves you or wants to punish you. I believe that to even presume that "God" would be subject to human tendancies and emotions is completely anthropocentric/arrogant. Now, i woudlnt impose these beliefs on anyone else, but why is that many MANY ppl who denounce dogmatic religion straight up
decide that there must be no God, or nothing existing beyond this physical plane. They cite science and logic for this decision, but they overlook the fact that science is a man-made entity. There have laws of science that were proven wrong by later developments. I'm not against atheists, and theyre usually wayyy more normal and tolerant people than Christians, but I just cant fathom believing that there is nothing deeper than what we think we know/understand in our lives.
1) That science and spirtuality should confirm one another, not oppose. For example, Bible say we are of god and have our being "in god" and are all "of god" or something to that effect. Well, science has determined that everything is made up of atoms, or subatomic particles, and that the only real difference is how fast they vibrates or how it is charged, etc. Therefor, is it not clear that we are all "one" and that everything we call
matter is truly made up of the *same substance*, with only minor differences in how it behaves? If you agree with me on this, then it is easy to see how science and religion COULD confirm one another.
2) That you must consider the translations of all religious scriptures, and that they have changed over time. For instance, In genesis they talk about the "word" and how it was god and was of god and blablabla.
. Well, we say "word," but the Greeks (way back when) used the term "Logos," which if you look a few things up about it, does not refer to a "word" (like, something you say/write) but rather something much deeper that does not even directly translate into another specific term. Look it up...even if you don't understand the meaning, keep in mind that the translations have changed this, and many other things, because not all languages translate perfectly into another.
why is it, though, that people swing completely away from spirituality and into atheism simply because SOME religious people are crazy/irrational/haters. I was raised catholic, and have since decided that i dont believe in their dogma and heirarchy/control/political structure. I dont like their lack of spiritual growth-- in fact they restrict, rather than permit, growth. However, I have not become an atheist, I've just decided that God mey be the creative energy that
So god told his mother to pray for her son because something bad is going to happen to him?
Why couldn't god prevent the accident from happening in the first place?
Or was god blackmailing the mother? You better pray and worship me or i'm going to kill your son.
Which ever way you look at this, god doesn't come out smelling like roses.
baldurus1 3 months ago
I took this guy's advice...years ago. I read the bible, and , as a result, i am now an atheist.
Tauron68 3 months ago
i am pagan the real and first religion
blessede be
SuperWolfspirit1 3 months ago
The person in the yellow shirt is on the right path. Like I said in part two, what's good for you is good you and what good for me is good for me ... Religious shouldn't be forced on you in any way. The ministers were not welcome and one could see that and in my opinion they should have left. It was a form of entertainment
DennyRec 6 months ago
What is said is the guy in the yellow polo claims to have "tested" the bible and found it to be true with "his heart". Yet when he talks about others not knowing god he says "maybe god has not spoken to you", as if NOW it is an objective claim that god exists.....because he "found in his heart" that god was real. In several hundred years from now I can only hope insane people will no longer roam the college campus.
Jeffersonwazright 6 months ago
i enjoyed your videos and especially the last one here he stood up spoke his peace and just walked away he wasnt hostile or rude he didnt claim that his religion was TRUE only true to HIM.....and hey even though i disaggre with him on that matter it doesnt matter.....and ya know what as for the nut jobs.....well....if hell exists.....they need to spend a week or so down there to see what there condeaming these people to and reevaluate there threat of hell so that well im not insulted anymore lol
Xlivesforever 6 months ago
Truth is a direction, not a fixed point on some map. inevitably people will find their own truths. My concern is simply to make sure that no ones version of truth steps on the right of others to persue the finding of their truth. Personally, I believe their is some kind of creative force in the shadows of our universe. I hold no allegiance to some god though and I feel the sacred thing is the ability of a human being to use it's own mind to decide it's own truths. That's worth dying for.
heartfire451 7 months ago
i agree, read all the books. especially the ones about kundalini awakening & transcendental meditation.: )
digitaljustice100 8 months ago
I'm not impresses by the young christian guy. The bible also says that Jesus died for the sins of humanity and when he died it would bring peace all through out the world. When has there ever been peace in the world? Christians are waiting for there jesus to fly down and save there souls, and its sad because if you actually do read the bible you will see how rediculous the stories are and how "god" contradicts himself time and time again. It's just fucking insanity!!!!
TheKoodude7 10 months ago 3
An intelligent person knows that they are incapable of drawing a conclusion regarding religion. To boldly define yourself as a theist or an atheist is to believe without definitive proof; regardless of which path you've chosen. If it were proven law, such as gravity, the truth about gods would just be common knowledge. But there is no way to know for sure, and making such a claim is arrogant. But I suppose claiming ignorance is too unsettling for most humans, who need something to grasp.
omnipotentobserver 10 months ago
@omnipotentobserver To boldly define oneself as an atheist is not believing something without definite proof. All atheism is saying is that the "evidence" for the existance of a deity is not good enough and therefore the only rational thing to do is to reject the claim. You're talking about gnosticism. They're not mutually exclusive.
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"True to me" is a dumb excuse. Either it's true or it's not, it's not a matter of personal choice if you care whether your beliefs are actually true or not.
Trukkerkeps 10 months ago
the younger guy was a true Christian. He used his heart to guide him in a world that is full of those who only believe in Christ because their afraid or wana justify their hate.
aliceTRN 11 months ago
ya know god's probably up there right now looking down on humanity..........and laughing his ass off
scumbuddy 11 months ago 2
And also, how do I test the Bible? Ask my Mum to pray for me, while I deliberately have a car crash and see if I survive?
HitchardDawkens 11 months ago
So Christians don't die in car crashes? I enjoyed your other two vids, and I have the same conclusion... The only "conclusion" you're suggesting is that perhaps there is a God and He saved this guy. My conclusion is that there is no God and random people die every day from all kinds of accidents and diseases regardless of their faith. This, is a fact. I don't see how you can claim everything else that was said on the day was crazy, and yet still give any credit to this guy's claim.
HitchardDawkens 11 months ago
@HitchardDawkens I agree. Well said.
Chaia17 9 months ago
I know this is pretty old videos but I really enjoyed the hell out all. Great job and thank you for that!
ShoryoTombo 11 months ago
I think that younger Christian is a complete retard. I am not the least bit impressed by his different method for bullshit spreading.
Also consider that if you actually do believe the insane shit of religion then you should logically be compelled to save every single person you can from eternal torture.
Either something is true or it isn't. The younger guy was full of shit.
drandersw 1 year ago
I'm glad that in the end of the videos there was a message of tolerance towards religion. Hateful Christians do not mean Christianity is bad, and I find Atheists can be frustratingly dogmatic towards me as a person of faith myself. Never have I condoned the use of religion of any persuasion as viable excuse for hate, intolerance, discrimination, or brainwashing.
asalynd 1 year ago
Together and United under Atheism right? The problem is not everyone who wants everyone to get along is Atheistic. It's not that strange that a Christian would say something smart. Preachy Atheists preaching about evil preachy Christians.
asalynd 1 year ago
It was very wrong for that girl to run her hand down his back in that manner; at 1:02 on the clock. If he did that to her, she'd sprint to the nearest police station. What a wonderful intelligent statement from that much younger Christian; whatever you may think of his theology, it was all achieved without confrontation or hate, and the other guy could learn a lot from him. JUST A THOUGHT: Were they a double act? Good Saint, Bad Saint?
MatlockJack 1 year ago
Ha, Ha, you are just too cute. No one should have to have all that hate thrown at them in the name of anything.
soporificpalaver 1 year ago
Actually the most intelligent thing said that day was right after the preacher said "Women are not equal to men," one of the men near the camera person said "on a college campus!" THAT was the most intelligent thing uttered that day.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
I don't want to see their nuts!
chrisinsocalif 1 year ago
I knew some catholics once, who after reading the Bible didn't stay catholic. The ideal of telling an ordinary man (your priest) your sins,,and calling him father. Where in the Bible does it tell us to do this?
Jackiedajackass 1 year ago
just becouse he is alive does not prove anything
rosen00000 1 year ago
ss or the bible didnt happen
Azuzin 1 year ago
If god was real and he relied so strongly on whether or not we believed in him to go to hell or heaven he wouldn't have given us free will.
MrssPotatoDick 1 year ago
cant believe i even started to watch this bullshit. so fuckin gay.
criscobucketeer 1 year ago
the perfect religion would be a religion that admits its own mistakes, have common sense, brings peace, accept modernized values, bring people together, accept people for who they are, abolish hatred, have a positive message that people will take by heart, and other shit that i'm not smart enough to come up with to make the ultimate religion. chirstianity has good philosophy in it but they did a lot more harm than good throughout history imo.
HONDAB 1 year ago
There is no perfect religion. They all contain delusions
peronkop 1 year ago
@HONDAB Sounds like you should be on my team, friend. lol
DROPilot 1 year ago
that intelligent thing said is merely a ploy to draw you into his crap.
daemonowner 1 year ago
I took your advice, and I found Wicca. :3
NeverForgetRachel 1 year ago
@NeverForgetRachel How odd... Of all the things to choose for yourself, you had to pick the most absurd of them all.. Not counting cults, of course. Oh well, atleast mass suicide isn't part of your books.
DROPilot 1 year ago
I believe in the spaghetti monster!!!
SimplyG93 1 year ago
I did read through a lot of the bible and prayed many times seeking "the truth" I have to confess here and now that I believe the christian religion, Islam, and judaism to be total and utter BS!
99minerkc 1 year ago
I think the biggest lesson that the preacher could take away from that encounter should be the differences in how he was accepted verses the way the other person was accepted. Everyone stopped and listened to the young man tell his story and make his points. Everyone told the preacher to shut up and heckled him constantly. If he were to see this footage of himself now, I would hope that he would see how he united a campus AGAINST his religion and consider changing tactics.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
look i beleave when we die god will grant you a never ending dream based on your life so see i live in my own little religion cool hey
wardude96 1 year ago
read the satanic bible!
brettsworld99 1 year ago
folks this is an old style trick......good guy actually back ups bad guy,,,,,,
TheAvarusAnimus 1 year ago
man it seems like that cat just got the floor because even in that outfit he's the most thugged out lookin kid there, i'd be telling him that Jesus is not real just like that other guy.
NewtonsStudent 2 years ago
Good video, you have to be principled, its like politics, we as a nation acted as sheep, did not do our research and put people in office that should not have been. We have to vote on principles, not party. I'm kind of an paleoconservative, but I differ on many other things that supports, such as religion.
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quran is the true and islam is the true religion of god
adibeh 2 years ago
Oh, I didn't know this. Where can I convert? I mean, you really convinced me, because if you say it is true, how could it not be?
t3nGu666 2 years ago 5
what you are trying to find is just information, you have the potential yourself to be happy, its all a state of mind, and if this helps you reach a good state of mind then go for it...but to be honest there are much better and deeper books you could read, that will give you more valuable information.
zer01ife 2 years ago
I dont buy into the "true for me" idea. There is one reality that exists regardless of your opinion. This reality does not include a god. This conclusion can be drawn from the logical premise of a lack of evidence. I could say "the 4th moon of jupiter caused your sex life" and challenge you to disprove it, but you aren't logically called upon to do so.
CipherMind117 2 years ago
Thanks for the footage
Dangilman 2 years ago
...People like this ruin my day. Their minds are soooooo limited and frail to shards of reality. They literally cannot grasp anything going on in the real world.
booste30 2 years ago 2
How many Bible -thumpers actually READ what they're thumping? This guy is the only TRUE Christian in this whole Video trilogy!
satanomarxist98 2 years ago 2
seriously, you have a good thought process and have a good non biased view. i looked at the religion i was born into and looked into a few others and came to my own conclusion and i don't believe there is a god. i hate people who preach like the 2 born agains were. i want intelligent debate. have a good one
mycrimsonregrets 2 years ago
I have made my own conclusion and ended up believing in many gods. I am pagan. And damn proud to be one. We dont hate on anyone. And we dont go out and try to cram our believes down ppls throats. I found these vids you made to be fun to watch. Thanx for posting them.
vladssin 2 years ago 2
kudos to you, my beliefs differ but great to see you found something to believe in that makes more sense than christianity. not to mention all the pagans i have met were pretty level minded and well spoken. have a good one.
mycrimsonregrets 2 years ago
kudos sir. i watched all three and this is my fav and i know am subscribed to you!
rubixxcube 2 years ago
where do i get the bible of the flying spaghetti monster?
Fma42081 2 years ago
where in the blue hell do you find these people? lol what church are they affiliated with?
Fma42081 2 years ago
there's no church affiliation. they're "born-again" christians. they say that they don't have a denomination, just that they're christians
SheepRCool17 2 years ago
read bible and go kill whoever believe in other gods.... yes bible is fukin awesome lets kill somebody who don't like my god. Or lets make sacrifice from dog or cat or whatever will be near even your sister or brother because thats written in bible. Read that crap and change the world even if it will mean christian terrorism, FIGHT FOR GOD and we will back to dark ages. Read and be brainwashed its so awesome to be dumb and dont know how world works. amen
7BeAsT9 2 years ago 2
The christians killed off the pagans so I really have to agree with your comment. Im pagan and you are so right about the dark ages cause thats what they did.
vladssin 2 years ago
He's just as full of shit as the first bloke
Yakovich 2 years ago
Einstein on Buddhism
Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: It transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural and spiritual; and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity. -- Albert Einstein If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism
TonyZayasEDS 2 years ago 4
I love the slight waver of a mostly repressed laugh in his throat when he told people to read the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
May the sauce be with you!
RAmen
Sstellethyss 2 years ago 5
Tell you what, if you want to think Satan is out to kill you, if you want to think praying is going to stop Satan from killing you, I'm not gonna stop you believing that. I wouldn't call it "the most intelligent thing said" either but hey who am I to judge?
Where I draw the line is when your "faith" starts imposing itself on the civil rights of others. Take your interfering faith out of my government and we'll have no issues.
megamarsvin 2 years ago 2
god is what ever you want it to be. if you choose to believe in a god, make sure it's a nice, mentaly stable god. a god
Bodhi510 2 years ago
Thank you for doing this, for it says all that I have wanted to about these acts since the same people came to Murray State University. This is a great statement and challenge to anyone on either side of the religious line.
NatCP1986 2 years ago
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fictional reality Created Character of the ultimate role playing Game that would mean god is not a god and the so called christ is and was just a fictional reality Created Character and when people lived and died and wake up out of the game they will realize what they lived and died 4 was nonthing at all there was no point of following or have a belief of any kind it was 4 nonthing what-if? we are in a reality game what would be the point of even beleaveing in a god or christ it was all4Nonthing
ImTheRealJesusClone 2 years ago
I wonder if the preacher learned anything...
cosmosofinfinity 2 years ago
Probably not.
DJAarmOZ 2 years ago
No he didn't He still goes around doing this crap. What a loser.
cosmosofinfinity 2 years ago
That was interesting. that 'preacher' was nuts. i dont know if i should call my self a christian or an agnostic. I really appreciate what that guy had to say on the behalf of the normal christians out there.
batmaniz21 2 years ago
Just say you are agnostic to the idea of Christianity until you are more certain of what you believe.
DJAarmOZ 2 years ago
What's intelligent about that sanctimonious, American emotional movie style presented oration?
What is true to me, true to you? Something either has to be true or not. Now as for opinion and subjective experiences, yes, sure, thank you sir, I'll make sure I'll experience them and make up my mind.
Emotional pleading IS NOT a proper arguement. Sorry.
Otzmatron 2 years ago 5
Truly, what bullshit...& then they cheer the ass...
HallowsEveJack 2 years ago
What disgusts me is the children born into religion and are indoctrinated by adults to believe nothing other than that religion. They had no choice. They had no way to be openminded. Children are very impressionable, and thier abillity to reason was taken away by their own parents. Early childhood development is the most crucial period in a humans life. They learn the basics behind reality. Their parents knew this and exploited it, in order to force religion onto the innocent and impressionable.
pmokadakeisuke 2 years ago 2
I agree with your message and his.
Just look for yourself what you want to believe.
I'm not saying I'm religious, but also not saying don't believe in nothing.
As for me, I'm a agnostic (or whatever you spell it)
I don't know whatever there is, that's also the true meaning of the word.
But I think he has true courage to stand up say his believe and experiences.
Xavier0219 2 years ago
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Hey all of you who don't believe in God and the bible. Take the time to listen to that young man in the yellow or any Christian. He's telling the truth; God do exist and those of you who don't believe, you're decieved. Jesus went to the cross and was raised from the dead so you can escape condemnation and have eternal life. If you want the truth then repent of your sins and turn to Christ so he can fill you with his love. Christ or condemnation..Your choice... ROCK ON My Christian brothers!!
DERBENJ 3 years ago
in case u havent noticed this is a trilogy of videos mocking christianity . most of the ppl watching this r atheists an ur pathetic attempt at converting them is all in vain , cuz unlike u they have the ability to think an live for themselves, theyr the free thinkers who move the world to a bttr tommorrow.
toloverufan2 3 years ago 3
Did DERBENJ miss the entire point of this video?
Don't believe what others tell you =/= listen to DERBENJ. lol.
KillcrazeWoW 2 years ago
Those words were not smart at all. He claimed God let him get into a car accident and that God told his mom??? Thats nuts!! How is that intelligent?
tsugua27 3 years ago 7
this is so useless.....really i mean why to provea point about something that doesnt surpass the satge of an hypothesis, just babbling and babling on each side each side trying to prove taht they have valid motives argumentes and reason......and for what? christians still preach you still dont believe i still dont believe, god is a decent amusement thats all, christian radical as hell can prove how convinced they are. and some atheist snobs can prove how rationally constructed they are.
karrazaki89 3 years ago
The book of the flying spagetti monster is great and I now know the touch of his noodly appendage and await heaven of beer volcanos and stripper factories. R-AMEN!
CBUEngineer 3 years ago 7
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That man Truly spoke the truth,that is exactly what we must do,read the bible and put that into action
christianshounen101 3 years ago
yawn indeed, the bible is true because something happened and religion gave me the answer... doesn't mean its true.
Manictwig 3 years ago 28
@Manictwig you dont get it, its all in the process, in discovering religion or doubting it, you find out who you are.
Jigsaw135 1 year ago
@Manictwig hes saying its true to himself but that his truth isnt anyone else's truth
screammoofyscream 8 months ago
Personal testimony *Yawn*
Thanks for sharing the video... If that gets Christians to take the first step towards inspecting their own bible then it was worth putting on youtube.
SuperAtheistBrothers 3 years ago 8
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AMEN!!!!!!
nbarbee36 3 years ago
He is the only true Christian on the video. People don't understand that its not about pointing the finger at other people's sin, but about finding a better way to live your own life.
fatslob26 3 years ago 7
Its closed minded to not accept other people have other opinions, im not a christian and Im ok with other people being christians. It does not effect me
AsG1989 3 years ago
I like what this person had to say about his own beliefs, and I like what you had to say about your beliefs. One thing I'm trying to do right now is find out about others' beliefs about who will be the best U.S. President and U.S. VP by asking questions of both sides. I haven't gotten very many responses yet, but at least I'm trying to get to the heart of the issues.
PEACE
Luv4Learning 3 years ago
I do not think he looked at all sides equally. If god saved him from being killed that day god is also the one who put him in danger in the first place. People need to open there eyes and truly look at all sides.
bullwhipjesus 3 years ago
Wise words thank you
aquatania 3 years ago
I JUST NEW he was an airhead, as soon as I saw his big slapaface. And his conclusion makes it blindingly clear.
nomtai 3 years ago
And that would be the most intelligent said all day? By someone who believes in magic? And supports blind faith in things that cannot be proved? "Ask yourself : Is this true within myself" What is that supposed to mean? Thing can not not "true in your heart" They are either true or are not true. You might be a bit less atheistic than you think....
babymicrobe 3 years ago
That may have been the *nicest* thing said all day, but if it was a far cry from intelligent. He didn't come to his conclusion by reading or investigating the bible; he was brainwashed as a child and is still relying on superstition rather than thinking rationally. The outcome of his accident would have been the same whether his mama prayed or not. "Nice" Christians propagate the same nonsense as the "mean" ones.
jonsonbrown 3 years ago 45
@jonsonbrown I think brainwashed is a term that is abused so much. this christian actually spoke from HIS own point of view. if he was brainwashed he would have been doing EXACTLY the same thing the guy with the small bag would have done( judging people etc).don't use that term so lightly.
christianshounen101 1 year ago
@jonsonbrown I myself am( and still) a christian and I hold evolution to be true because I ACTUALLY looked into it. I grew up with a FEW of the sam old( but most VERRRYY different) tactics in a chritian community. in the end I mad my OWN conclusions on the Bible and have begun to understand OTHER religions (hindu, buddhists,etc) than most people would and I even enjoy Biology. so don't use brainwashed lightly. if that were the case I would have been like the weird preacher guy
christianshounen101 1 year ago
@jonsonbrown I got hit by a car and didn't die. My mom didn't know, nor did she pray to save me. I got lucky.
Secundinius 1 year ago
@Secundinius Fancy that!
jonsonbrown 1 year ago
@jonsonbrown He's a nice guy, earnest, superstitious and credulous. Not to be rude, but his mom was probably getting "messages" from god like that all the time.
Intelligent? Meh.
pureevilfnord 1 year ago
She should have stoped him instead of just praying.
peronkop 1 year ago
@jonsonbrown I agree; it is so saddening, however. :[
flekhes 1 year ago
@jonsonbrown
Actually the outcome would have been dependent on how good the doctors were. But I agree, praying does absolutely nothing to fix anything, otherwise why would we still have AIDS and Cancer?
kingalbrect79 1 year ago
@jonsonbrown well said.
Chaia17 9 months ago
Read Proverbs
that's all
michiyoyoshiku 3 years ago
i think you need to make a video highlighting the fallacous nature of creationism. Thunderfoot does it well enough but trying to explain it without scaring them away is how you pursuade.... Anyone know what class war is? : D
zachypoop 3 years ago
fallacous as in their arguements.
zachypoop 3 years ago
Religious civility: Being comfortable enough with own beliefs, to permit others their own. I have always said to Christians, believe as you will, but don't use your fear tactics on me, or I will strike back... and so here I am.
8sonofman8 3 years ago 7
so if joshes mom hadn't prayed for him "god" couldn't have been bothered to save him? and even if the crap he was spoutin during his story was true, why don't he try giving some credit to his mom since if it wasn't for her praying "god" wouldn't have even bothered. that's what i hate about christians always happy to thank "god" for everything but never the person who really deserves it.
nemesisnick66 3 years ago
I've always wondered how they automatically think that it is the god in the bible who granted their prayer. It could just as easily have been Shiva. It does not in any way prove the bible is true if you believe a deity saved your life or whatever. ;)
sanmal88 3 years ago
...ive never thought of that either and isnt Shiva the name of one af the elemental's that you can summon in Final Fantasy?
nemesisnick66 3 years ago
Shiva is also the supreme God in the Shaiva tradition of Hinduism.
sanmal88 3 years ago
I have a huge amount of respect for that man. Those were the wisest words I have EVER heard spoken by a Christian. It's not what you end up believing, it's how you end up believing it. That is the process that EVERYONE that has an ounce of respect for their religion or beliefs should go through. Questioning and reasoning is what makes us human. We are intelligent creatures and should start acting as such.
Bandaids4ever 3 years ago 2
The support that they gave him AFTER hearing that he agrees with that idiot just proves that they are genuinely willing to listen to both sides of the story as long as you aren't being a jackass about it. This is why I can't wait to go to college. It must be great to be surrounded by so many intellectuals who can think for themselves. It sounds like such a wonderful environment. I only have a few years to go. :D
As for this guys speech...AMEN! That's from a proud non Christian.
Bandaids4ever 3 years ago 5
Bandaids4ever; "they are genuinely willing to listen [...] I can't wait to go to college."
Um, don't have your hopes up too high on that, in my university I could only really discuss things over with like 5% of the population, or less. The rest wasn't interested in thinking things over except when it was for a grade.
MrFacet 3 years ago
Waita destroy What little hope I had left for humanity, MrFacet! :D
Ah well. It'll still be a wonderful opportunity to learn new things and grow as a person. If nothing else I'll come out wiser. I don't take back my "can't wait to go to college" statement I made earlier.
Bandaids4ever 3 years ago
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yep, check it out for yourselves. the only book w/ 100% accuracy in prophecy. and dont trust your heart. has your heart ever been wrong? Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
filoIII 3 years ago
Tyre still exists, Jesus said it would be destroyed long ago. Fail. Jesus said he would come back before all the people from the generation then on earth were dead. Failed. God said that Iseral would be a "great nation". Failed.
rjbonacolta 3 years ago 2
back it up w/ scripture please
filoIII 3 years ago
Genesis, Chapter No. 4, Verse No. 12 Chapter No.4, Verse No.17 failed Ezekiel 26 (according to mat 15: 21) failed 1 peter 1:5 failed James 5:8 failed Hebrews 10:7 failed Thessalonians 3: 13 failed john 21: 22 failed Mark 14: 62 failed.
rjbonacolta 3 years ago 3
how is this prophecy unfulfilled? Ge 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. Ge 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city,and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. Heb 10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. what's this got to do w/ unfulfilled prophecy? i think you're just picking verses out the air to seem smart
filoIII 3 years ago
God said that Cain would never settle or raise anything. He does, in fact he builds a city. I meant heb 10:37, which is failed so that one was my bad. But notice that even if you were right about those three, which you aren't there are still many, many examples of false prophecy in the bible.
rjbonacolta 3 years ago 3
but we found the truth in the 10% while you wonder about in your pride
filoIII 3 years ago
That you claim that we have only ten percent implies that you have the other 90, or a source for that 90% you also claim that there is truth that there is a finite amout of it. This is intelectually dishonest and an invalid argument. Please stop making yourself look like an idiot.
rjbonacolta 3 years ago
sort of strange how my previous comments aren't on here now, hey?
filoIII 3 years ago
I just like to see people passionate about things. Its really cool. It would be nice if people had more manners.
atm2462 3 years ago
Very good video, very good message. Thanks for posting it!
dustitaly 3 years ago
This guy would probably hang himself in my school, 70% jewish 20% Muslim and 10% other mostly Athiests...so uh.
AphasiasCompromise 3 years ago
I hope this guy comes to my school, I need a good laugh
thebksfriend 3 years ago
great vid + conclusion :)
uck1007 3 years ago
Damn, you yanks sure have quality campus entertainment, I'd love for these guys to come to the uk so I could laugh my ass off between classes.
ngarey 3 years ago
What that guy said was really cool...and I have to commend Brother Micah for rarely interrupting and letting the guy speak. I agree with the points I think you're trying to make in this video.
furrypurrylove 3 years ago
most of the spiritual memes humans have developed throughout history r pretty basic.
explantations of creation with an overlay of moral direction.
unfortunately these innocent ideas have to often been twisted and used to manipulate the people.
thats my conclusion.
hawkpork 3 years ago
the only problem is i would be too embarrassed to buy dianetics or even check it out of the library xD
just kidding i don't give a shit, but the librarian will look at me weird though lol
NorseRonin 3 years ago
whoa, that is so true
i m an athiast but hey!,
ill read it
eastendcheese 3 years ago 2
rock on. i agree with the message.(atheist)
TheRealDJLO 3 years ago
Totally agree 5:05... i think that if u get pushed into a religion its Bullshit! thats wat happened in Norway and Poland hundreds of years ago! Personally ive Apostasized (behemoth and dimmu borgir RULES)... if u see him again ask him... "What do you think about The Apostasy? (And/Or) What do you think about what happened to poland and norway?"
Burnth666Priest 3 years ago
Evangelists like the first two psychos needs to be stopped. Evangelisation is an ideaology for people who claim to have read and understand the Bible, who haven't actually read or understand the Bible in any way. If they had read it they would know that Yeshua the son of God (Don't know who this Jesus guy is, probably Gods landscaper)condemned evangelisation and organised religion (not organised faith, just the Church).
imnoromeo 3 years ago
That was a great and very thoughtful conclusion, you'd make a great documentary-maker ala Michael Moore/Morgan Spurlock. That student's testimony was a world away from the hate-filled bile that was spewing from that other man. It's re-assuring to know that there are other religious people who are sensible enough to counteract the zealots.
CwlAsCat 3 years ago
excellent video, great message at the end.
if people can just be open-minded, they can find answers to just about any question.
it will also help people understand each other's beliefs, so that we can work towards tolerance.
I quoted you in a blog post this evening, that was seriously a very moving close to the video. So profound, true and just all-around great advice for everyone!
Cheers,
Quincy
quincyq03 4 years ago 2
Very well said, GodNonBeliever. I reached my conclusions about religion in the same way.
If only more people were capable of free thought.
xenoneternal 4 years ago 5
well said!
srhbr02 4 years ago 2
nice video. with a amazing message
VividVisionV2 4 years ago 2
Usually people who use faggot or any similar slurs is gay themselves, and repressing it.
So yes, he meant you.
GodNonBeliever 4 years ago
that guy was very classy
randomdude90 4 years ago 3
you must come out of the closet, self repression is unhealty
...I'm refering to the gay slurr
pmnichols10 4 years ago 4
i gotta hand to josh for saying what he said...There aren't a whole lot of people who would have had the balls or the knowledge to give a speech like that. oh yea and fuck brother micah
conawaz 4 years ago
His speech was nothing but bs. He came to believe in the bible because of a story that makes little sense. If he was in a near fatal accident as he said he was the hospital would have called his mother and informed him before he could. Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. If anecdotal evidence is proof of the validity of one's faith, then all religion would have to be right since most of them claim to have personal anecdotal evidence.
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Your way of showing skepticism towards is statments carries a falacy wich is the assumption that he aluding to any evidence for god, he's not. He states that god is real and there is a possibility that evidence for god may be discovered in the future or even that god himself decides to end this vicious and damaging fight by personaly spanking the intolerance out of our asses personally I'm skeptic but I am often wrong
pmnichols10 4 years ago
i liked the speech, however, for him to think that god chose to save him, implying god HAS the power to intevene and save people, do you not think he would be doing so on a more regular basis? what about all the starving kids in the world? what about all the deadly diseases that kill infants, come on man, think about it.
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saying that god doesn't exist is false and is evidence of self delusion, you don't actually say it but your last statment gives a good clue of what you belief is. Many believers are deeply by ofended by this and rightly so, it is the preferred argument of atheists with the last words often being "...and proves that there is no god" people of faith know this too well. This is abuse, reduces the chances of harmony among us and strengthens faith.
pmnichols10 4 years ago
utter non sequitor. you have no sense of logic. that is why jesus turning wine into water, coming back from the dead, and walking on water makes sense to you. Im not the one with the irrational belief. YOU are. I am not the delusional one. YOU are.
pokermaster54 4 years ago 6
no watch The Naked Truth w/ Jordan Maxwell
muzakship 4 years ago
Wow, other people like me exist :o. Wonderful, powerful, great message. Added to favorites.
Zenith7796 4 years ago
bravo!! bravo!!
ilegirl89 4 years ago
Wow, these videos are exactly the sort of thing I was planning to make in a few years...at Uni...in the UK...
tomthecool 4 years ago
Sir.. I salute you. We seem to have come to the same conclusions after using very similar methods. An excellent series.
jesterspace 4 years ago
You should post more videos like these.
MatasakoScar 4 years ago
Hey guys... this is my first time commenting on a video, and i wrote a long ass comment. Didn't know you have a 500 char limit, so i broke it up into pieces. its all right beneath this post... lemme know what you think
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
why is it, though, that people swing completely away from spirituality and into atheism simply because SOME religious people are crazy/irrational/haters. I was raised catholic, and have since decided that i dont believe in their dogma and heirarchy/control/political structure. I dont like their lack of spiritual growth-- in fact they restrict, rather than permit, growth. However, I have not become an atheist, I've just decided that God may
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
be the creative energy that forms what is manifested in this universe, not some fickle guy up in the sky who cant decide whether he loves you or wants to punish you. I believe that to even presume that "God" would be subject to human tendancies and emotions is completely anthropocentric/arrogant. Now, i woudlnt impose these beliefs on anyone else, but why is that many MANY ppl who denounce dogmatic religion straight up
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
decide that there must be no God, or nothing existing beyond this physical plane. They cite science and logic for this decision, but they overlook the fact that science is a man-made entity. There have laws of science that were proven wrong by later developments. I'm not against atheists, and theyre usually wayyy more normal and tolerant people than Christians, but I just cant fathom believing that there is nothing deeper than what we think we know/understand in our lives.
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
I also feel very strongly about two things:
1) That science and spirtuality should confirm one another, not oppose. For example, Bible say we are of god and have our being "in god" and are all "of god" or something to that effect. Well, science has determined that everything is made up of atoms, or subatomic particles, and that the only real difference is how fast they vibrates or how it is charged, etc. Therefor, is it not clear that we are all "one" and that everything we call
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
matter is truly made up of the *same substance*, with only minor differences in how it behaves? If you agree with me on this, then it is easy to see how science and religion COULD confirm one another.
2) That you must consider the translations of all religious scriptures, and that they have changed over time. For instance, In genesis they talk about the "word" and how it was god and was of god and blablabla.
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
. Well, we say "word," but the Greeks (way back when) used the term "Logos," which if you look a few things up about it, does not refer to a "word" (like, something you say/write) but rather something much deeper that does not even directly translate into another specific term. Look it up...even if you don't understand the meaning, keep in mind that the translations have changed this, and many other things, because not all languages translate perfectly into another.
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago
why is it, though, that people swing completely away from spirituality and into atheism simply because SOME religious people are crazy/irrational/haters. I was raised catholic, and have since decided that i dont believe in their dogma and heirarchy/control/political structure. I dont like their lack of spiritual growth-- in fact they restrict, rather than permit, growth. However, I have not become an atheist, I've just decided that God mey be the creative energy that
TheInfamousRinny 4 years ago