The "Final Stage" and Service ~ Shinzen Young

[justkarmatoo]

Take care and may all be happy and well. -JK

[DanielForkbeard]

I have benefited greatly by Shinzen Young's teaching. However, I wish he would stick to opining about his Buddhist lineage & not the Christian one. He is not correct when he talks about "praying w/o ceasing." The term simply means that there is no period of one's life where one let s prayer fall off. Also, he says that once a person no longer experiences the presence of God, one doesn't go to church any more. Wrong. God and church are different. Also, Aaron didn't get to "peek" at will.

[october4891647]

I don't think he's referring to prayer in the traditional sense, or church in the physical sense. Rather attaining a stage in Vipassana where it is incorporated into your moment by moment existence. You become you're own church in other words. OR... perhaps I've completely misunderstood your post :)

[DanielForkbeard]

First, let me thank you for your civility--I often draw internet "Trolls." You said that you don't think he is referring to prayer in Trad. sense, yet HE IS quoting the Bible, ergo my complaint. I wouldn't cherry pick verses from the Koran in order to convince Muslims that Buddha got it right. Many Buddhists quote the Bible in order to woo the Christian culture to an Eastern approach--as if Jesus & Buddha were talking the same thing. These are VERY different Traditions. Yet, Shinzen is awesome!

[samplesking1]

"praying w/o ceasing" is when one activates and enters the inner heart. Then it's like you have the mind in the head and a mini mind in the heart that continually prays. Even science has found brain cell type functions and nerves leading into the heart. read, Way of a Pilgrim. That way you can function, but within the heart its ever praying continously

[adayanayan]

It's good to see Shinzen on YouTube. I think this is his first appearance? I'd like to hear more from him--he's quite interesting to listen to.